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post Nov 21 2012, 04:31 PM

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post Nov 29 2012, 09:16 AM

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Hi all.. Newbie persona elegance here.. Tranquility Black AT B line.. Minta ampum sifu sifu tunjuk ajar how to mod car for better power..


QUOTE(Cavino @ Nov 28 2012, 04:02 PM)
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Changing tires to a smaller size which slightly exceeds 3% radius difference is still acceptable.. the common cause for brake failures is more related to the weight of the wheels compared to the original rim weight.. Thats because there is a threshold in the braking power exerted. So if u upsize ur tires but the tire + wheel weight is largely unchanged, the upsprung mass of the wheel is still the same, hence deceleration force is mostly the same too.


Added on November 29, 2012, 9:17 amHMmm cabin filter bulk.. i want join too.. Not sure my kucimiao car using Patco or Sanden.. PE mostly use Patco right?

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post Nov 29 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 29 2012, 09:17 AM)
Got papaya to eat or not?

wave.gif Hi, newbie. Where had you been?
Check first lah. Not sure if all use Patco.
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A lot of stuffs to do.. Girls to date.. Events to attend... tongue.gif

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Nov 29 2012, 09:25 AM)
Zeng is year end dy wat about the Camsona/Persory sound proof project ..... brows.gif
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LOL.. Not much response from anybody also..

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 29 2012, 09:59 AM)
From EA?  brows.gif
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Nope.. From another forumer.. Prices offered by him are much cheaper..
https://www.facebook.com/EcoAsiaGlobal

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Nov 29 2012, 11:31 AM)
the optimum new product "Opti-coat 2" lagi best it cant seal + ceramic coat our original paint surface so the clear coat getting protect from scratch .
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Opti coat needs professional application.. Small fish with basic detailing experience cannot use it..
If ur car surface is not prep perfectly free from swirls and scratches, after opti coat there is no chance of repairing it except wet sanding..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Nov 29 2012, 11:52 AM)
Sifu punya explanation makes me feel puny....

That means if upsize tyre and change lighter rim, then ok......but if upsize and use back stock rim...have to watch out for the diameter differences lor...

Somehow I like the original rim, heavy duty means less chances of rim bengkok if run thru potholes...where our darn KL road, even federal highways (esp on high speed lanes) got lots of holes. Just run into 3 minor potholes (including a huge one for half past size manhole filling at road behind Citibank. Luckily no damage....I think.
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Upsize also dont change the size too much lah.. If not the rims too wide, will hit the inside wall of the wheel arch there.. and the turning radius will also increase..
If u buy original rim, as in Ori Enkei, ori Volks Racing, ADV.1 etc.. Those rims are built to withstand a lot of abuse.. They can tahan abuse much much better than taiwan rims..




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post Nov 29 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Nov 29 2012, 02:40 PM)
sieat, that was the shop that last time sam wong, me and vccy doing the chasis foam... doh.gif
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Yeah the same.. But since they are STP trained as well.. So shd be good workmanship lah..

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 29 2012, 03:08 PM)
OK. Closing by tomorrow.
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Include me too.. Later i free free then go check what Japanese company is hiding in my car..
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post Nov 29 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Nov 29 2012, 03:41 PM)
hmm.gif. Ok. Gonna put it on my list of possible purchases in the near future. Broke now cause I just bought a new pair of headphones.  cry.gif
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What headphones? Gooding one ah? I just got SOL Republic Tracks V8 last mth.. flex.gif
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post Dec 1 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Nov 29 2012, 03:51 PM)
ATH-M50

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rclxms.gif but i prefer cantenna.. can listen for a long time without ear stress.. How much damage and where u bought?
Bass ada bagus ah? I prefer speakers with better bass..

QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Nov 29 2012, 04:08 PM)
not sure I'd probably be spending my money on GC, VS and headlamps, just want to know if everyone here has one and has any notable changes.
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VS u dont need it if u are not into ICE. GC however is recommended to be installed..

QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Nov 29 2012, 04:30 PM)
somehow ori one is super expensive rite?
i think the ori volks is same as the R3 rims price maybe?
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I saw Japan prices for Ori ones ranges around RM3.5k-4k for brand new 17" rims.. Very good prices considering the 2nd hand units that gets imported to msia are around that prices instead..

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Nov 29 2012, 06:16 PM)
experience of the service or wat ?
Is not said not good, it dose improve noise insulation....but now ayam use to it aldy so no feel anything, if asking how good compare with other foam then i dunno, never sit car with others foam and probaly they do foam at different place also.
group no group just we 3 white mouse go try, while others still wounder which type better.
shank ur elephant balls ...
actually how, what, which, how long, how much......
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Duration around 4-5hours a car.. Damage depends.. Full car for floorboard, doors, engine hood, 4 wheel arch and roof around 2k..

QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Dec 1 2012, 12:39 AM)
got my inspira liao lo...
haha....
but still will come here to spam
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Come drag.. 2L inspira vs my 1.6 stock Auto B line PE..

QUOTE(dares @ Dec 1 2012, 01:25 AM)
I personally recommend this highly wub.gif

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I would get it if i had the money.. But 208,888 aint no spare change..

QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Dec 1 2012, 01:41 AM)
ford focus ST?
haha, its not cheap leh. somehow due to my dad influence, I am very keen in volvo.
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Volvo T5 Turbo engine is gooding..
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post Dec 1 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Dec 1 2012, 11:42 AM)
Bass is not bad with my mp3 player cause it has a bass boost function. With my sound card the bass is rather weak cause there's no built-in amp sad.gif. Damage's RM620  moneyflies.gif I could have gotten it for less than RM550 apparently from a shop at Imbi since that shop is having their year end sales, but my friend only told me after I bought the headphones doh.gif. I bought it from an online seller.
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I saw review for Philips CityScape Uptown is very good.. thought of getting that.. Have u seen any of those around before?
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post Dec 3 2012, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Dec 1 2012, 04:36 PM)
Bro, what's your cabin filter type?

Dark dark lah OK. That's mean it is cleaning the engine. Cusco tarak stock lah.
hmm.gif Not that good review on Eneos leh.
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Mine Patco.. hhehe. .Sorry sang gajah for the late reply..
I just bend down to see the cabin air filter also i saw the Patco blue logo there ady..
But my filter damn clean wei.. so clean i can use it as a grill for BBQ party.

QUOTE(Manlet @ Dec 1 2012, 10:29 PM)
guysssss, why arh my simota drop in, after 10k km, i wanna wash it, so dip it inside a pail of water for whole night, the other day wake up the water still clear arhhh

meaning my filter actually not filtering arh, so all the dusk masuk engine liao lo?
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Cos the drop in air filter is pre-oiled.. The dust is contained and trapped in the oil.. The rest of the dust can be beaten out by just dusting the filter on the floor.. Its able to remove most of the dust.. A soaking or washing with water / soap is not required.

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 2 2012, 02:18 AM)
usually need a bit of soap one...
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Preferably dont use soap.. Cos it will remove the original pre-oil.. Then the fibre will start to become hard over time and if kena big stone hit then it might koyak easily..

QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 2 2012, 05:50 AM)
normal service is including ?

how much roughly major service? i skipped out too much service,,, last service is on 15 000 km... now 31 000 km d......
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Walau ur car can go die ady.. hahahah.a..
Faster go service lah.. The oil becoming sludge ady.. Later repair cost damn high wei..
What to change
1) engine oil, get a semi sync and service again after 5k.. So that u can remove the sludge accumulated so far..
2) EO filter
3) Gear oil
4) Check ur spark plugs, whether got excessive sludge builtup or not.. If its very black, then time to change.. Take picture and post it here if u are not sure.
5) change ur coolant
6) check ur brake oil
Anything else u know to whatsapp me..

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Dec 2 2012, 11:35 PM)
already found but hvnt buy yet...automotive garage got...mudah also got...
u wan d "R3" word emblem or d "R3" logo badge?
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I want R3 Badge..But how much?

QUOTE(Manlet @ Dec 3 2012, 12:29 AM)
ehhh u all de fuelly lying de izit


Added on December 3, 2012, 12:30 amwhy i check my persona dashboard de FC like 9.1/km and i alwayz cruise highway
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Mine not lying ah.. hahaha.. Mine at best can reach 1.5L/100km.. Who have went for TT with me early last year can confirm that for u..
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 3 2012, 08:13 AM)
when u free bro ? mind help me to check ? lai lai treat u yc...... zeng..........
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haha.. I dont have the tools to open up the engine to check lah.. Just get all ur service done.. Do all the oil changes necessary.
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 3 2012, 08:23 AM)
the gear oil is ATF?
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Yeah.. ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid mah..
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 3 2012, 08:28 AM)
fuhzzz so exp right the service...

how much roughly ah including those things i have to change....

so the lists is completed zeng ?
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What to change
1) engine oil, get a semi sync and service again after 5k.. So that u can remove the sludge accumulated so far..
2) EO filter
3) Gear oil
4) Check ur spark plugs, whether got excessive sludge builtup or not.. If its very black, then time to change.. Take picture and post it here if u are not sure.
5) change ur coolant
6) check ur brake oil

Semi sync EO is around Rm110 and below..
ATF use Petronas XP3 is RM150
EO filter around RM15
Check spark plug.. If got a lot of carbon deposit, change new Iridiums will cost u 150.
Coolant RM30
Brake oil Dot 4 / Dot 5.1 around RM30.

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post Dec 3 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Dec 3 2012, 09:52 AM)
those price u quoted is from proton sc?

any other outside sc recommend by u? since the warranty already voiid
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nod.gif Not from Proton SC.. Any SC also the same.. The difference between the SC and bawah pokok service centre is the workmanship being charged..

Erm a lot of outside SC.. I recommend the one near my house.. hahaa.. If u willing to come to SK.. But generally any workshop that looks ok will do.. Or those authorised Castrol Service Centre is the safest bet.. U can get the EO there directly.. Best semi sync u can use is Magnatec.
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QUOTE(jasontantenghuat @ Dec 3 2012, 11:01 AM)
I think if I bising kuat enough, wiper also they will throw in laugh.gif
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Hahah.. Then they later take out a nut from somewhere to make sure u come back again.. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(dan137 @ Dec 3 2012, 11:09 AM)
PE punya backseat cannot fold? rclxub.gif
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I believe u bought the B line / Standard line right? Then TBSS..
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post Dec 3 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(dan137 @ Dec 3 2012, 11:14 AM)
just got my PE 5 days back. No other variant available now. So cannot choose. then it is TBSS
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Yeah Standard line then.. Look at it this way, u can kidnap and throw a person at the back and they wont have a chance of crawling out through the back seat.
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post Dec 3 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(jasontantenghuat @ Dec 3 2012, 11:29 AM)
From the boot you can unlock the seat meh? blink.gif
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Nope. But u can kick the seat down.. hehe..

QUOTE(Manlet @ Dec 3 2012, 11:31 AM)
kenot fold seat very hard piap piap in car sweat.gif
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notworthy.gif But in other ways it allows u to get creative in the car.

QUOTE(dan137 @ Dec 3 2012, 11:33 AM)
hahaha..always look it +ve way.

about FC, mine is 10.0L/100km sometimes 9.8L/100km. Manual transmission.
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Only after the 20k major service will u see the best FC.. Normally now all when the car new its not efficient.. Like a virgin not really good on the bed yet..
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Dec 3 2012, 11:52 AM)
WOI I 165CM LEH  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  TALL La  cry.gif
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Bwahahaha.. 165cm also consider tall.. lol.. And i thought i was short at 169.
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post Dec 3 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Dec 3 2012, 02:42 PM)
What Zen mentioned on servicing is the correct way to remove any minor sludge builtup. Since we don't know if sludge has been formed, we can only assume so, since you exceeded the recommended change by 3x. Don't know what type of damage has been done to your engine, as your detergent, protection, anti-wear and whatever protective addictives your EO has was long gone.

Try to go for SN rate lube now coz SN rated usually has higher level of detergent addictives than SM rate ones. However that is subjective has some good brands rated at SM has exceeded SM requirement in one of more of the addictives. SN rated just makes sure the min. addictives is higher than that of SM.

Higher detergent addictives would be preferable to desludge your engine gradually, if any. Change to branded semi EO (preferable SN rated) and new oil filter, then check your EO every 1K-2K usage. Makes sure you check while engine is cold (b4 you start your car).  Use the dipstick and drip it on a paper. Spread the oil, if its still watery, ok, continue using. Even if it is dark in color but still translucent (can see thru even if it's dark in color), can continue using.

If it started to turn honey (sticky) and/or so black that you cannot see thru it anymore. Then change EO AND OIL FILTER (yes, even if its only 1K-2K mileage), coz that is sludge forming or the contaminant leftover is so heavy, the current lube might exceeded its suspension capacity. It might be costly to change it so early but if the symptom is as mentioned, you have no choice, that's the price to pay for skipping lube change ON SEMI LUBE by 3 times its life capacity. If its fully syn, some more boleh tahan, but semi change schedule is the same as normal dino lube.

Continue using semi (NOT FS) for the next few services (35K, 40K, 45K) at the least and change accordingly at 5K service interval to continue cleaning the engine. A good lube will slowly desludge the engine if sludge has formed. DO NOT used any ENGINE FLUSH to desludge. Just on time engine oil change

FYI Havoline semi is rated SN at RM104.
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He changed his oil ady.. For a 15k mileage oil it seems to be quite ok.. No sludging, but overall the oil flows a bit thickly..
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post Dec 3 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Dec 3 2012, 03:17 PM)
Just starting buildup only, lucky him...
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Shell HX7 EO wei..
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Allo everybody.. Zeng is back..

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