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Icehart
post May 30 2013, 08:39 PM

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That depends on the application of your pictures. If you just snap pictures for blogging purposes or facebook at 500 x 335 or 640 x 480 then the pictures are actually quite decent. If you intend to keep for long term memories and upload to sites like flickr, please do some justice and get a proper camera la. laugh.gif My Panasonic Lx-3 announced in 2008 still can eat those high ends Htc One for breakfast.
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post Jun 2 2013, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Jun 1 2013, 09:51 PM)
I believe that if there was a double blind test of images taken during anytime between 7am and 6pm, people will have a hard time differentiating a DSLR image and an iPhone image.
Having a fixed focal lenght, small aperture and small sensor, there is a lot the iPhone can't do. But can it produce stunning images?
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It's not hard to differentiate a photo taken with DSLR and a phone camera.
You just have to post a photo at 1024 x 720 and the details will tell you.

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post Jun 2 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 2 2013, 11:00 PM)
i disagree. going around Facebook, forums and various other places.

many people use DSLR and snap it same or worse than a phone camera.

there was a website that had such test before. biggrin.gif

of course if you are comparing same scene, same lighting taken by same person then comparison is very straight forward.
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Then that is definitely user problem. tongue.gif
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post Jun 19 2013, 10:17 PM

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I'm personally waiting for the Lumia EOS. 41mp sensor and some shots are as good as good compact PnS. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(t1231 @ Jun 22 2013, 09:57 AM)
hi all sifus,  smile.gif

thank you for all your opinion so far. i'd like to remind all sifus that this post is not to compare DSLRs with camera phones - this is no contest!  biggrin.gif

rather, i am trying to see if a good smart phone can take pictures that are comparable to a good p&s like s95, or lumix LX-5, or m4/3. So far i have the impression that in low light, smart phones still can't match them, but for a lot of normal situations, they have caught up already.

as of now, i will get a good smart phone (may not be a top line model), and buy a 2nd hand s95, LX-5, or GF2. the smart phone will be used under ideal conditions, and the camera will be for difficult situations. i think at this point, a dedicated camera is still relevant. maybe one day all p&s will be completely replaced by phones, and only left DSLRs and M4/3, but not now.
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IMO some phone cameras are quite acceptable under low light, but then it depends on your requirements and preferences.
These are some nightshots taken by 808 pureview. You might notice that I've posted all at 800 x 600 resolutions because noise will become apparent with anything more than 800 (and blur focus too).

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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Jun 22 2013, 11:45 AM)
Me too.
I hope there is less disappointment and hopefully, it will be on par with Nokia 808. Price wise, not more than 2K.
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If priced at RM 1,999 also tempting since good PnS camera also around RM 1k already. I'm sold immediately if they announce EOS can capture RAW images. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Jun 22 2013, 11:53 AM)
for me, another difference between smartphone and camera is the impression it gave to other people as well

if u doing street photohraphy with dslr, people will think u are professional photographer
if using PNS, then people will think u are tourist
if using phone, people will think u are creepy or stalker tongue.gif

and also, different device give u different opportunities to take pics
example, dslr give u opportunity to take shots without people thinking u are weird or anything
phone give u opportunity to discreetly take pics without being noticed. e.g. taking amoi pics, lol. or just simple food pics but u feel shy to take out thr big dslr just to shoot a mee goreng or something.

even though im using the 808 pureview, if i have the money i would get a dslr myself.
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I think it's a question of convenience in the end. Phone camera quality is nowhere near DSLR quality but it's very convenient and IQ is not too bad. DSLR is bulky and heavy and not to forget it attracts all sorts of attention (even with my K-5 + DA 40mm also kena halau by guards). laugh.gif

Also, camera imaging technology is about to change soon in the smartphone segment. We have iPhone 5s rumored to be upgrading its camera, the Nexus 5 to be spotted with Nikon sensor (stacking), then the Honami series and not to forget king of smartphone cam currently 808 to be ported to EOS with WP 8, a great combo. thumbup.gif

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post Jun 24 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Jun 24 2013, 12:30 PM)
Thanks for sharing those great night shots.

However, you mentioned that the a higher resolution is not recommended. How about if I print it out in normal photo-paper size?
Overall, current Nokia 808 priced at RM999 is still a very good deal.
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I myself print few photos from phone before and I find it acceptable. smile.gif
The images I posted above are from 808 Pureview, so printing at 4R should not be a major problem (41mp).

But that's for pureview 808 lah..haha if you expect to print photos from 3GS and print at 4R then don't put the expectation too high lah. biggrin.gif

Anyway, I'm amazed by 808 capability in daylight photography. Night shot is still acceptable.

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Taken from flickr group 808.
If you want to view more amazing 808 photos welcome to view em here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/808pureview/pool/

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post Jul 6 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 5 2013, 11:58 AM)
Nice shots  smile.gif ... and yeah... if someone comes out with a ~808 quality that operates decently fast, doesn't look like the bastardchild of a PnS and phone ( I mean its gotta look like phone), on Android or iOS, does 1/3 stop exposure compensation, can do at least 4sec - 1/2000 ss, shoots RAW... 3K also I'll buy biggrin.gif
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So far I don't know if any smartphone camera can do that. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 01:50 AM

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Lumia EOS 1020 shot!

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Large File: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3672/9179586...7a1490f09_k.jpg

Flickr Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfiore/9179586182/

Shot by Joe Belfiore, VP of for Windows Phone.

Amazing era of smartphone capabilities. rclxms.gif
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post Aug 9 2013, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 9 2013, 07:03 PM)
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LEGO : Night Paintball by goldfries, on Flickr

LEGO. biggrin.gif HTC One.
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How come exif info missing? tongue.gif
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:42 AM

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We need something like Nokia 1020.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:32 PM

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chokia

Do you happen to know when the QX100 will be launched in Malaysia?
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post Sep 22 2013, 05:37 PM

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Thanks for the info. smile.gif

 

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