Im using cat form and i find it hard to attack a character (like warlock and shaman) who always jump and move around when you trying to attack him.. lol.. do you guys feel the control is hard being a melee character?

no. just follow the person around and always have the toon in front of you. use your mouse to turn instead of your keyboard. you'll get used to it after a while.

as for a shaman, you wont be able to catch him as he will use earthbind totem to slow you down. you should be able to catch a warlock pretty easily.

Earthbind totems... grr...

Also, once you do catch up to them, don't just stand in one place to hit them, move around them. If you haven't changed your keyboard configuration, hitting 'E' & 'A' together will make you run circles around the dude, making spell casting a b****! 'Q' & 'D' also produces the same result.

well i can get spells off half the time. i got used to how they run around me and i wach my casting bar carefully. also, a lot of melee chars don't really know how to run circles.

don't just run cirlces, it's easy to time a spell if the person knows how. instead, run circles and through the person randomly.

Charge! Hamstring! sunder!x5 Demo.shout, rend!!, Bloodrage! piercing howl or hamstring again if its gone, spam heroric strike / mortal strike!!!!! Execution!!!!

Warrior! that what i usually do.

Againest casters! i need to use berserker! after i charge then Hamstring!, Rend! and so on....Shield base & another skill i forgot it's name is useful againest casters. silence them for a few sec.

If i get feared! i have to use berserker rage!! only good for every 1 min.


This doesnt always works.... mages can sheep and ice me and i'm in trouble!!
Locks can corrupt and run around! when i get near he might fear again while my berserker is still in cooldown!! Die SLOWLY IN PAIN......priest can do this too.

any casters can pawn me.....warrior's magic resistant isn't good unless u have the right equipment...

BTW, remember to get the macro for eliminating Shammy's totem when fighting them.

I've seriously never seen a warrior do that in PVP, i mean sunder cuz thats just to hilarious to see

sundering during pvp is just a waste of precious time and rage..good one.

Lol , yea sunder armor isnt goin to do much in pvp, nevertheless i tends to use it when fighting shadow priest, those damn buggers, hate em and warlocks too.. death coil, seduce u name it..

you do know that casters have no armor right? there is no reason to sunder shadow priests, their shadow form reduces 15% damage no matter what.

normally warriors will charge and hamstring instantly. then they switch to berserker immediately for several reasons. no. 1 would be berserker's rage. they then spam mortal strike, whirlwind whenever possible. mortal strike because of the damage and the extra 50% healing reduction and whirlwind because it doesn't require next swing to hit. then spam execute when life is low.

Cloth are considered armor...unless ur naked! then u have no armor. ofcause using common sense....i won't need to sunder cloth users to 5, maybe 1-3 is enough. More dmg is better, even if it add's 10-50 extra.

Sunder does wonders in PVP....warriors use it a lot againest paladins.....lower the armor on your opponent the better. I can beat a pally with sunder, considering using my other skills correctly. 2k+ armor gone on a pally, it's worth it and only takes a few sec to do it.

Sunder best used in situation as
You ended up fighting plated base characters 1 on 1. Which usually happens to me in Warsong AV not as much and when u meet some crazy alliance alone wanting to kill you while ur hunting. If i don't sunder a plated guy...being u have a less better plate then ur opponent..your chances of winnning are lower.

General time in AV. We all know that guy is tough...every debuff helps. (belinda or galv you don't really need 20 ppl will be enough to kill them)

And ofcoz i know sunder is useless........againest a ton of alliance runnning towards you in Alterac Valley or anywhere else.

but fighting 2 plated guys and using sunder helps if you know how to fight and use skills that you have.

Mortal strike are for arm war. good for warsong when a guy runs away with flag. Does ok dmg too. (But only for arm warr)
Fury War are much more better for dmg dealing in my opinion.

I don't comment on how others fight, everyone has a diffrent mind set on things.
And for me Sunder is good. He ask "How you guys control your MELEE character" and so i answered how i played my melee char.

This post has been edited by garka: Mar 15 2006, 10:23 AM

yeap true, u must have like BWL/AQ weapon for warriors to take down shadow priest that fast, b4 u got chopped down by their mindblast/mindflay combo..
myself been using TUB for pvp and the fight usually 50-50 well more like 40-60 favors the shadow priest lol... Damn Nef drop some Ash'kandi demmit!

Getting sundered in PvP is almost as hilarious as getting counterspelled as a rogue. The rage used is better off spamming Hamstring or watever to proc you-know-what. I'm pretty those pallies you fought are pretty dumb. Holy spec can drop you way before you get those sunders in. Besides, what good is Sunder Armor on DS can wipe it out? BoP is more than enough too. It's 2006, TUF is like everywhere. It's the minimum one should have. Even Askhandi is getting common. Btw, who the hell uses Rend at 60? lol Well I think MT does, only because it's now 16-debuff slots.

This post has been edited by Jieh: Mar 16 2006, 08:43 PM

great job sundering <900 armor on casters. the armor reduces like 5-8% damage? as if it makes a difference. as you waste your rage on sunders, casters will chop you down while kiting you. believe me, i know as i have played a shadow priest & mage. i don't find warriors a problem, except BWL decked out ones which chop you down in 2 hits.

mortal strike is the most useful skill for a pvp warrior. it does the most damage & adds the plus i decreasing healing by 50% (not that useful except on healers). when i watch/fight warriors, they always have like 1/5 of rage, no more no less. this is caused by them taking damage. otherwise the rage has been spent on hamstring/mortal strike/fear/whirlwind. some use on demoralizing shout (good for removing stealth players). they save some rage to perform execute, which they never fail to do as they spam that button when your life dips below 1/4.

and piercing howl too hehe.. yea i hate fighting shadow priest, with the new talent revamped for priest for the next patch, hell it will more challenging for the melee classes fighting with them..

the priest revamp focuses on buffing Holy and Discipline. doesn't affect shadow. but can get a little more troublesome from the discipline side.

Conclusion :
Sunder is a joke in pvp.

Those paladins you beat down with sunder are people who play with 1 hand or retarded. They should reroll. Paladins are really really crazy in pvp post talent revamp. Put the plate aside, I dueled a pally with +700 healing, I lost before I could eveb force the first shield out. GG Reckoning + Herald of Woe.

while you sunder a pally, he will damage you a lot. they hit harder now.