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TSJaniceWLV
post Nov 19 2012, 12:23 AM, updated 14y ago

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this picture was shot at f11, off camera flash ,on tripod, and for some reason i feel that the picture is just not sharp enough? fyi i focus around the wiper spray
am i expecting too much from this budget lens? or my skills are not up to par yet? or just something wrong with my eyes o.o

*ignore the uneven surface lol, its shot on my shirt*

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thx alot! all comments are appreciated
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post Nov 19 2012, 12:29 AM

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ur car need a carwash..
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post Nov 19 2012, 12:35 AM

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1. your composition is not good.
2. the image is under-exposed.
3. lighting is bad, if you have 1 off camera flash - you can actually create a really nice shot of a car like this. biggrin.gif
4. choice of surface not good.

you want example?

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post Nov 19 2012, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 19 2012, 12:35 AM)
1. your composition is not good.
2. the image is under-exposed.
3. lighting is bad, if you have 1 off camera flash - you can actually create a really nice shot of a car like this. biggrin.gif
4. choice of surface not good.

you want example?
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Want want

Actually how do I get the exposure right huh? Usually I will take a test shot 1st, review it and if it looks underexposed I will adjust the shutter to let in more light, it looks fine on camera after that but once I put it in the comp , all look abit diff one

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post Nov 19 2012, 01:03 AM

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that car is what scale? 1:32? 1:48? looks small.
anyway what lens u using? at so close its not easy to get the whole car sharp, so easiest is to work the angles.
something like this was shot for fun...tho wished i had 1 more light to give some seperation.
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(JaniceWLV @ Nov 19 2012, 12:51 AM)
Want want

Actually how do I get the exposure right huh? Usually I will take a test shot 1st, review it and if it looks underexposed I will adjust the shutter to let in more light, it looks fine on camera after that but once I put it in the comp , all look abit diff one
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if you using nikon or canon i think there is a meter on your viewfinder(bottom), well exposed when its in the center(underexposed=left side)

the pic looks grainy , i think u set to high iso hmm.gif


every pic sure look nice on camera screen. bcuz ur high resolution pic is cramped on that small screen with max brightness laugh.gif
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:14 AM

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everdying posted a nice example of how it could be taken. biggrin.gif but it looks like taken with 2 lights.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:14 am
QUOTE(JaniceWLV @ Nov 19 2012, 12:51 AM)
Actually how do I get the exposure right huh? Usually I will take a test shot 1st, review it and if it looks underexposed I will adjust the shutter to let in more light, it looks fine on camera after that but once I put it in the comp , all look abit diff one
if your camera LCD brightness is at default (middle) or higher - that's the problem.

oh and you may learn to use Histogram.
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:15 AM

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ya, 2 flashes left and right both diffused.
i didnt have a 3rd flash to give seperation from the background tongue.gif


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
QUOTE(JaniceWLV @ Nov 19 2012, 12:51 AM)
Want want

Actually how do I get the exposure right huh? Usually I will take a test shot 1st, review it and if it looks underexposed I will adjust the shutter to let in more light, it looks fine on camera after that but once I put it in the comp , all look abit diff one
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u using the cheapest 50mm? doubt it can resolve well enough on the 60D...go get a nice macro lens.
but ignoring lens issue for now, adjust by playing with the flash power after you set what aperture and shutter u need.

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post Nov 19 2012, 02:21 AM

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err... shutter speed dont effect flash exposure...
aperture and iso does...
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post Nov 19 2012, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 19 2012, 01:15 AM)
u using the cheapest 50mm? doubt it can resolve well enough on the 60D...go get a nice macro lens.
50mm f1.8 II on 60D.

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Single Flash + Styrofoam Reflector by goldfries, on Flickr

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Resolve well enough, no?

Anyway, just an example of how you can use a single flash and a reflector (mirror, cloth, styrofoam, whatever).

In this image, the flash is on right and back, raised to an angle above the subject.

On the left of the subject was my styrofoam reflector.

Did this simple shot to illustrate the usage of single light source to light subject.

As you can see the image was cropped - sometimes, you need not show the full subject.

In this image I used the flash to highlight the curves of the subject, and the reflector to highlight the dark areas a bit.

This adds dimension to the subject.
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post Nov 19 2012, 02:16 PM

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thx guys, will try to shoot a similar shot again later


Added on November 19, 2012, 4:23 pmflash on left and shirt as reflector on right , this shot was made of 2 different photos , one for the left headlight area and the other for the other areas
how does this look huh? ok or not?
btw goldfries, what surface should i use? for this shot i use my school uniform
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post Nov 19 2012, 06:57 PM

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surface? it's a car...use the road as ur surface tongue.gif i think a lower angle will look more realistic. i don't feel it's natural to look at a car from this high angle

the 2nd shot is definitely an improvement in terms of focus though. good job
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i cant tell if TS is trolling or not tongue.gif
what surface to use? use cardboard la.
easiest way to shoot? point flash straight up and bounce from ceiling.
like this one is just 1 nikon flash straight up and triggered with a fuji point n shoot...and yes that is just a rm3 piece of cardboard u can buy in stationery shops.
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:39 PM

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Surface even you can use mounting board or this type of board I forgot what its called,

This is mine shot only using your everyday fluorescent light and the BG is just the wall and use a white paper to reflect the light for the back of the car. Scale of the car is 1/18 btw.

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post Nov 19 2012, 09:05 PM

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Thanks for sharing guys.. lot of info here...happy.gif
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post Nov 19 2012, 11:47 PM

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aihh TS - if so difficult, you could just find the corner of your living space (hopefully white walls and ceiling) then point the flash upwards and left, and the shoot. biggrin.gif chances are you could get something decent.

anyway here's another example.

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Single Flash Product Shoot by goldfries, on Flickr

Canon EOS 60D with EF 50mm f/1.8 II, pop-up triggering a Canon 430EX II speedlight placed 1-feet away from subject, with head tilted at 45 degree and fired at 1/4.

Camera setting is at 1/250 | ISO100 | f/8 | 5500 Kelvin WB

Subject placed on black cloth, with a styrofoam board just about 4 inches behind the subject.

Image was taken in JPG. This image was direct from camera (meaning no alteration to colors nor brightness - only watermarked and resized).

The photo shoot session was about 10 minutes.
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post Nov 20 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 19 2012, 11:47 PM)
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Very detail ....i also newbie and noob is flash photography....
useful info. thumbup.gif


btw with my pop up flash is enough for this kind of shoots ??

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post Nov 20 2012, 10:38 AM

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your pic is underexposed. Since you're using off-shoe flash, you could try to compensate it with the EV on either your camera or flash.

Simplest thing that i'd assume is that due to the low light, the grains are more prominent thus making it look not as sharp as you'd expect it to be.

besides, you've removed all your exif data so i cant comment much
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post Dec 17 2012, 11:14 PM

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i think the degree angle of your flash also will affect your photo. are you using 90 degree upward bounce?
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post Dec 18 2012, 02:05 PM

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good thread...i learn alot just by reading this

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