Best SQ setup for Satria GTI.., All sifu please please help..
Best SQ setup for Satria GTI.., All sifu please please help..
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Mar 5 2006, 12:23 AM, updated 20y ago
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Hi. I need all you ICE sifu out there to help me choose the best sound quality set up for a Satria GTI. My budget around RM2k. I already have a Clarion HU..not sure which model. Anyway, I need recommendation on the best SQ set up I can get for my budget, speaker and amps and EQ only. My type of music is mostly Jazz, pop, circullar and once in awhile a lil rock music. Planning to just get 1 pair of component system for the front. Is it more then enough? Do I need subs? Please do help me
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Mar 5 2006, 07:28 PM
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All the sifu out there...please help laa. Recommend me front comp set, amps and should i need a sub also for my kind of music? If yes then I have to buy another amp? My budget is RM2k plus. Please help...really blur..
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Mar 5 2006, 07:54 PM
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2k can't get u anywhere far
try to get an amp and front component 1st sub maybe later This post has been edited by driftmeister: Mar 5 2006, 07:55 PM |
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Mar 6 2006, 01:01 AM
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what HU u using ? if stock proton will have not enuff power
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Mar 6 2006, 02:38 AM
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Is not stock. Is quite good, one of the higher range in Clarion series. But forgot the model number liao. Is in my dad's X-trail, and he's outstation. He's gonna give it to me.
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Mar 7 2006, 02:17 PM
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If SQ is what you are seeking for. Sound system alone won't get you far. You need some dampening on your car as well. Like
Dynamat Extreme Sika Damp Raamat (if I'm not wrong with the spealling) |
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Mar 7 2006, 02:27 PM
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hmm... can learn from here.... i love music!!
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Mar 7 2006, 04:29 PM
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If someone happens to sell 'OEM kicker' ... better don't buy it as Kicker don't do OEM stuffs.
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Mar 7 2006, 06:01 PM
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Owh ok..thank u thank u
Anyway does anyone have the Focal Polyglass series component speaker? Can someone give feedback of the speaker? Cause someone quote me RM1.5k for Focal Polyglass 6" Component set, Mohawk 800Watts 2 channel amp and a preamp...including of wiring works and installation. Is this set up ok?? |
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Mar 7 2006, 06:18 PM
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maybe you should get a better decent amp to drive ur comp for a better sq. and why you need preamp? as you mentioned, you having a high end clarion hu, most probably you can adjust everything in the hu function. but please check ur hu model 1st if it does come with the function as preamp.
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Mar 7 2006, 06:32 PM
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Then what brand do you all recommend?? Please tolooong me..
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Mar 7 2006, 10:18 PM
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preamp = old style = no need
1 set components at the front is enough, add a single 12" subs in a ported enclosure for the rear. and you might need only a 4-channel amp (with sufficient watts of course). very basic setup i should say.... all that is left is too have the correct speaker placements and HU tuning, plus some sound dampening if you mind. |
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Mar 9 2006, 01:25 AM
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I now have a new budget of RM2.3k for front component + amp. For the front component I planning to put in the Focal Polyglass 165v2, for amp, I'm not so sure yet, but the shop recommend me a Mohawk 800 Watts 2 channel amp to drive my speakers. What do you think about this set up? I listen mostly to songs like John Mayor, Jazz, circullar music, and once in awhile Black Eyed Peas, and some rock music, so nice bass response from my system will also be nice! Should I put in a 12" Sub also? If yes what kind of Sub do you recommend best for SQ? I read a few forums saying the Mohawk Orange sub is good for SQ..Please help...
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Mar 9 2006, 11:09 AM
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how much is the polygrass? which particular 165v2? they have 165KF, 165K2P, 165K3P, and 165KP
unless you're choosing the 165K2P/165K3P (which are rated 100w/200w rms).... probably you may get SoundStream XTA180.2.... about RM500 I saw someone selling at Lelong at brand new. |
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Mar 9 2006, 05:56 PM
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mohawk to drive polyglass?
hell NO ! u'll end up having ear pain i'd say focal comps are bright u need some warm amp like steg,sinfoni, morel to tame them got 1 fella is selling MRV407 for RM800 this amp is pre F#1 status and i would rate it a good amp 70 x 4 rms power interested? then with the remaining u can actually opt for Alpine Type X comps which are very good too |
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Mar 10 2006, 09:43 AM
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say no to mohawk orange sub too. you can't get SQ with the sub. too boomy and bassy for SQ. unless you send to pro to tune ur system. anyway, just believe your ears.
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Mar 10 2006, 10:40 AM
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Mar 10 2006, 11:23 AM
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Mar 10 2006, 05:49 PM
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Mar 10 2006, 07:39 PM
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Mar 10 2006, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Mar 10 2006, 05:49 PM) borrow from installer lor QUOTE(Jwang @ Mar 10 2006, 07:39 PM) erm...it will at least cost RM1.8k for the entry level of the PHD ampssteg will go for at RM1.7k sinfoni will be rm2.9k |
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Mar 11 2006, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Mar 10 2006, 09:07 PM) erm...it will at least cost RM1.8k for the entry level of the PHD amps I just read about Steg in OPTION Car Magazine.... it says this brand recently quite popular in JAPAN. Another italian brand just like Audison. steg will go for at RM1.7k sinfoni will be rm2.9k |
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Mar 11 2006, 05:05 PM
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yeap
best match with Morel drivers |
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Mar 28 2006, 09:45 AM
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am wondering, wat is the different between alpine type-r component speaker and type-x component speaker? any different on both? which one is better?
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Mar 28 2006, 10:26 AM
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@clausman
the type x would be the higher range than the type r. so naturally the type x would be better. however, it still depends on the listener. ive personally never heard both.... im using the type s components myself |
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Mar 29 2006, 11:57 AM
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hmm...my suggestion is to get urself DLS front component set model PS6A + mohawk MB2000.2(dont go 4 m280 or m250..lousy amp!)..and aslo put Dynamat to get more noise reduction and bass..
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Mar 30 2006, 12:25 AM
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Remember if you are into SQ, don't use ported enclosure for sub-woofer, most of the time, you can feel the bass is distorted. better go with sealed box for more controlled and accurate bass.
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Mar 30 2006, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Lemon @ Mar 30 2006, 12:25 AM) Remember if you are into SQ, don't use ported enclosure for sub-woofer, most of the time, you can feel the bass is distorted. better go with sealed box for more controlled and accurate bass. aha.... this is what i want to know all these while ported if want loud bass sealed for accurate bass |
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Mar 30 2006, 11:15 PM
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kenot say like that
its still boils down to the enclosure size/design and the sub itself This post has been edited by driftmeister: Mar 30 2006, 11:15 PM |
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Apr 9 2006, 01:25 PM
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sorry guys,
wat do u mean by ported and sealed?? Ported = the woofers are at the side, cylinder type?? sealed = the woofers are at the front, square box?? please enlighten!!! Thx |
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Apr 9 2006, 02:57 PM
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ported/vented - enclosure/ sub box which has holes / vents
sealed - enclosure / sub box which has no holes / vents, totally sealed |
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May 13 2006, 05:48 PM
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Just to share...
I used to run on the SPR-176A, the old Type R component which consist of 1" tweeter and 6.5" midbass. Pretty good and easy to run. Tuned the comp set to play SQ, pretty possible with some compromise on certain things. Things to note, the 176A is rated at 50W. So any amps can drive it easily. For entry level folks, this comp set would be very ideal. I used to listen to almost everything. But has since shifted my setup to purely SQ running subless. On the crossover side, you can set the tweeter setting with 3 settings. Can be use to tone down the sharpness. You cant compare the 176A or the 17LS(2005 Alpine Type R comps) with the SPX-177R. This 177R comp set are made purely vocal biased. It is rated at a lot higher power(Cant remember, check ALpine website) and it is bi-amp capable. You need pretty good power to run the comp bi amp. Then only you will feel the capability of the 177R. The crossover itself comes with jumper setting so you can setup the passive to control the drivers. Bear in mind the bi amping in this case is not active bi amping. Passive bi amping via the cross over. If you want a simple setup biased to vocals based on the songs you listened to, you dont need a pre-amp. I used to have this setup Alpine CDA 7893R Alpine Type R SPR 176A Alpine Type S SWS1242@1.1cft enclosure Rogers RSA 428, 75Wx4 Stingers HPM, 12 gauge cables Stingers Bullet Series RCA All tuned biased to vocals. Another thing, not only the components are important but the tuning too. Set the gain too high, the vocals will sound digital and so on... Understand what you want to achieve with your budget and look around for the best bargain. Audit other folks setup too to know your preference. BTW, dont ask me what I have now... Okay ka? Thank you! |
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May 13 2006, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(neo79 @ May 13 2006, 07:48 PM) Alpine CDA 7893R Alpine Type R SPR 176A Alpine Type S SWS1242@1.1cft enclosure Rogers RSA 428, 75Wx4 Stingers HPM, 12 gauge cables Stingers Bullet Series RCA i'm more someting to the thread starter. is alpine com good? |
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May 13 2006, 10:33 PM
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depends on the model
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May 14 2006, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(InfinityGT @ Mar 7 2006, 02:17 PM) If SQ is what you are seeking for. Sound system alone won't get you far. You need some dampening on your car as well. Like Hey dude... nice to see you here as well. BTW, the stuff i'm selling is actually called Raammat BXT60. Thanks for intro-ing anyway Dynamat Extreme Sika Damp Raamat (if I'm not wrong with the spealling) |
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May 14 2006, 01:31 AM
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Like Driftmeister said, depends on model. If you still hvae doubts, please try to listen to folks who have the components. One of the bigger nightmare in ICE is getting a components which might not be of your taste.
Generally, most comp set are good. Real difference is when you powered it with an amp. Else, the comp set would not be any different when it is plugged by the HU. |
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May 14 2006, 10:26 AM
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May 15 2006, 09:51 PM
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