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post Jan 22 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 22 2013, 04:55 PM)
habitual orgster... if there's such word
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no, but you can write to merriam webster or oxford to include it in...
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post Jan 22 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(hianboy @ Jan 22 2013, 07:40 PM)

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post Jan 24 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Jan 24 2013, 03:22 AM)
Happy belated bday butthead,,how old are you?   blink.gif
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I'm not going to take that on. I'm laying down on that one.

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post Jan 25 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Neraka Bulan @ Jan 25 2013, 01:09 AM)
Hello there,

I'm planning to start cycling as a way to lose my weight and increase my fitness level.  Running/jogging is a good way to lose weight, but it screw up my knee i'm afraid.

Currently i'm eyeing EMC Etape road bike series but i cannot find any shop around Kuala Lumpur that selling this series. So can any of you help me find the shop that selling this model.

Or perhaps could you recommend any road bike suitable for me.

Budget RM 4K max...prefer shimano 105 but 10 speed tiagra is fine.
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RM4k definitely can get you 105 shod bike providing you don't aim for the big brands like Specialize, Scott or BMC.

can't recall who has EMC in KL... but it is definitely available here...

this are not in KL....
http://www.wanscycle.com/web/node/359
http://www.sbhbicycles.com/store/Racing-Bikes-Road-Bike/

I think cycling messes with your knees equally as fast or bad as running. In fact, running actually promotes good bone health if your running posture is correct. The impact from running actually encourages higher bone density provided you have the adequate amount of calcium and stuff needed for good bone health.

QUOTE(mrjgx @ Jan 25 2013, 02:23 AM)
Get 105 bro. Tiagra is not fine.
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it's the same function lar bro... jus a big more plasticky and slighty heavier if you are not too picky...

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post Jan 25 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 25 2013, 02:52 AM)
me? no.... never. me gonna go with a custom clincher set from wheelbuilder.com, when the time comes
you willing to part with your money??

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 25 2013, 07:21 AM)
butthead, which one is more dangerous? spoke tension too high or too low?

if the spoke maximum limit is 130kgf, and minimum limit is 110kgf, which one is better? try to get as near as possible to 130kgf, or the middle 120kgf, or get as close as possible to 110kgf?
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if overtensioned... the spoke will fatigue faster as it was not made to handle that much stress, there is possibilities that either the nipple will crack and let go first or the spoke might snap (most of the time at the elbow or the spoke head)

under-tension on the other hand might promote freeplay on the spoke holes of the hub if they are not made to have tight tolerances... this also will wear down the spoke elbow and break some time in the future after extended use...

i won't happen immediately... most likely things you'll know after months and months of usage and depending on how you ride...

QUOTE(nlik @ Jan 25 2013, 08:13 AM)
hi, could i get some opinions. This carbon fork has sustained damage and I am not sure if it is still safe to continue using it?

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Thanks.
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cosmetic damage... don't think you need to worry that much...

if you hit it with your finger and it sounds different or like a slight cracking sound over the affected area comparing with area around it which is undamaged... then you might have a worry...

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jan 25 2013, 09:07 AM)
What have you got in mind, carbon clincher? shipping USD180 wor!
USD180 is not for everything... depends on what you buy... the more you buy, the more expensive it gets.. i think they calculate it based on weight... so, it makes no sense to group buy from this sites...
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post Jan 25 2013, 12:17 PM

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it'll be safer... it's not too minimal and it's not too much...

you won't get all spokes there if it is not a new wheel...
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 25 2013, 12:21 PM)
Scott Speedster 20, 105 groupset smile.gif might fit your budget.
i think that is tipping 4k if you get it from KH or Uncle Tan's shop...no wrong trying to survey there though...

outside, if it is available... maybe under RM4k...

Giant, Polygon, Merida, Fuji is the ones that is most likely making 105-mixed alloy bikes under 4k...

all this talk about 4k makes me think about this 110 inch 4K LED TV from CES... mmmmhhhhmmmmm....
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:37 PM

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having shift indicators tells other people that you are amateurish...

i like shift indicators though...

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post Jan 25 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jan 25 2013, 03:37 PM)
None of LYN cyclist went for the ride???
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if give away free rapha apparels.. maybe lar...

else..

he ain't no alberto contador.. not interested...
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 25 2013, 03:42 PM)
The messy cables too but I couldn't care less & I am loving the shift indicators tongue.gif

Who cares, an uncle with a Shimano Sora beat my time in OCBC by 10 freaking minutes.

I dislike interval training but I guess I'm going to try that tomorrow, pray no rain
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no internal routing is not a real problem... it's not a real big eyesore anyways...

actually... the cables becomes a place for you to hold onto if you are riding on the flats... sort of like an aero extension that is flexible...
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post Jan 25 2013, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 25 2013, 04:02 PM)
hmm.gif helps with people who are six packs hungry too
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don't get what you meant by that...
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 25 2013, 05:08 PM)
try grabbing the cables/wires while cycling then you will understand tongue.gif
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i always do that when i was using sora last time... don't understand what i should be understanding....
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post Jan 26 2013, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 12:54 AM)
butthead, dt440 rims 24F/28R, dt240 hubs, sapim cxray spokes, alloy nipples, minus skewer, RM3.3k including shipping smile.gif
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you can take the asymmetric R440 rear and normal R440 front... and why not DT Aerolite since the entire set is already built mostly of DT parts...

i personally like the RR465 which used to be called the RR1.1 if i am not wrong... it has double eyelets which is a bit more tougher at the expense of weight... i'll pair mine with a RR415 front and RR465 rear if i were to purchase mine... the rim is only 1.6mm narrower than the RR440...

you went to this section?
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/custom-dt-swiss-rear-wheel.html
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/custom-dt-swiss-front-wheel.html
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post Jan 26 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 26 2013, 10:14 AM)
tried abang butthead's method, not easy, my six packs not strong enough :/ perhaps, forearms lousy kot
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apa kaitan ngan six packs???

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jan 26 2013, 12:20 PM)
Hi..bro,
Zipp 303 Questions?
Use: Total terrain? Not in to competition.
Rider's weight : 60Kg
Ideal Spoke count for F,R?
Ideal tires?
23C, 25C?
Any other info will be helpful....
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What is terrain? As long as not off-road... anywhere you can use it (doesn't mean you can abuse it)
Weight limit? Usually this sort of low spoke count wheels should handle rider weight limit up to 180 pounds no problems... zipp states 250lbs but i doubt it (http://www.zipp.com/wheels/303-firecrest---carbon-clincher/#)
Spoke count? Where can choose? It's dictated by Zipp which is 18F/24R
Tires? Anything would do as long as it suits your wallet. Corsa Evo CX if you can afford or GP4000s if you can't and Maxxis Detonators if you really have no money. The zipp wheel is not going to send you a rejection notice whatever you put on it
Tire size? It's made to fit 23c optimally, 25c will fit still nicely if you can find them.

Other info???
1) www.hsbc.com.my/1/2/personal-banking/credit-cards
2) www.hlb.com.my/pfs/cc/ccpromo.jsp?flag=ccpromo
3) www.maybank2u.com.my › Home › Cards › Credit Cards
4) http://www.standardchartered.com.my/person...w-all-cards/en/
5) www1.uob.com.my/personal/cards/credit/uob_cards_apply.htm

QUOTE(nlik @ Jan 26 2013, 12:51 PM)
I'm using this tiagra 10 with indicators. I think the indicators are not useful since can tell which gear is engaged by feeling.
you pro mar.. we noobs only

QUOTE(nlik @ Jan 26 2013, 12:51 PM)
The top also scratches when u turn the bike upside down to change stuff.
don't flip your bike upside down.. problem solved... that is why portable bike stands are invented...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 01:47 PM)
yes i did. not bad la the price. coz normaly those dt240 hubs alone are bloody expensive. i'd choose sapim spokes bcoz uncle boon sells sapim. can find spares if i need some
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yup... the 240s will shovel 2.5k easily out of your pocket in malaysia.. i saw the retail tag of RM2.6k from orbea.. although it was the MTB disc hub version

you sure uncle tan got your length or not??? you better check with them on what length is on your wheel and then find out with uncle tan first... bladed spokes don't have that much room for you to cut and re-thread oh.. if he doesn't have it.. better order up spares of each length.. should mostly involve 3 lengths..

QUOTE(mrjgx @ Jan 26 2013, 02:48 PM)
Since 303 FC is wider than 404, it's better to use thinner tires rather than wider as it would negate the benefits of having a wider rim. Sifus here correct me if I'm wrong  hmm.gif

Go for 303 if you want a an all rounder wheels. I'd get em if I don't have an FR0, and that Tarmac SL4 doesn't have any issues with it. Sadly both cases is not on my side so I'll go for the 404.
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nope.. the wheels are designed to be wider as it will let the 23mm sit much more snugly especially tubs... 25mm although is not what it was designed for.. but it will sit much better on the zipp wide rims rather than conventional 19-20mm rim width of most other wheels...you get better contact interface between the tire hooks or adhesive face with the rims....

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:09 PM)
25C for comfort and toughness
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comfort comes with pain...pain of not being able to find the tires...

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post Jan 26 2013, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:41 PM)
his torso not strong enough to support upper body weight, i think
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it's like aerobars only mar.. just rest on top of the handlebar and use the cables as guides... haha

it's a matter of getting used to it... frankly... there is no use for that except when you are riding on the flats at considerable speeds...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:43 PM)
that one, not sure la... how many of each length should we keep as spares?
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minimally 1... but since it's so far away and shipment charges are crazy high... i'd keep as much as 3 to 4 piece per length.. you can keep less spokes for the front wheel as the risk is lesser on the front wheel and it uses same length both sides...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 03:45 PM)
i tot 25C can easily be found? conti gp4000s summore
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yeah.. but that is still 1 choice only... 23c can be found in multiple options mar...
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not something you can notice on a daily basis... there is pros and cons to both choices... either one still works just as good...

it is a matter of which you believe in...
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jan 26 2013, 07:14 PM)
In your opinion, which one of the two tires reflects a more aesthetic combination with the 303?
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23c

both aesthetics and speed often go in opposite direction...
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post Jan 26 2013, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jan 26 2013, 07:40 PM)
stop for a minute. is this for u or ur fren? i sense it's the former....
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isn't it very obvious?
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post Jan 26 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jan 26 2013, 08:13 PM)
Did a bit of digging, I think Zipp is value for money especially with our local market
without a doubt.. until a day where all the pundits start buying other wheels.. i don't see zipp facing any stiff competitions...

furthermore, they are being backed by 2 rather big distributors here in KL.. GH and Ngee Cycle..gives a bit of calmness to your nerves in case either one goes out of business...

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need down tube shifters?

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