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post Nov 12 2012, 10:54 AM, updated 13y ago

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Reporting in!! 1st ! tongue.gif Congrats on the new thread yo

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hi all, i have a question here. what is the service interval for preve? the engine oil sticker wrote 10k and on the receipt it wrote 5k. btw i am using semi syn engine oil, planning to change the engine oil at SC every 10k and beside this i change the engine oil myself at 5k without tell SC anything about it. (can save some labour cost)
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Y the cover page wrote V15?
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:23 AM

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1st page!! ahaks.. congrats! icon_rolleyes.gif

congrats marquis for being TS.. hehe.. actually i'd like to suggest Area51SE to be a TS since i like how he organize the FP of myvi thread.. but anyway, it's better for a CM to be a TS.. whistling.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:25 AM

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post Nov 12 2012, 11:34 AM

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Added on November 12, 2012, 11:41 amI got a question but different members gave different answers.

When braking from high speed, got helicopter sound.

Member 1 advise: Brake rotor/ disk/ pad may be warped & need to change to new one,

Member 2 advise: The brake is still new. Sound will disappear after 1 - 2 months of usage

My current mileage only 650KM & not yet 1K service. Been driving the car for almost 3 wks now.
I have sent to SC last week & the mechanic did 'Bleeding'. The helicopter sound reduced a bit but not totally eliminated.

Please advise


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So fast... V16 ady... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:48 AM

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Post call.. time to sleep.

Anyway congrats to all, progressing really fast.

@fysim I think my brakes have the same sound too but that only occurs if I'm breaking from high speed. If normal breaking doesn't have that helicopter sound. I'm assuming it's normal.
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QUOTE(cwk150 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:23 AM)
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1st page!! ahaks.. congrats!  icon_rolleyes.gif

congrats marquis for being TS.. hehe.. actually i'd like to suggest Area51SE to be a TS since i like how he organize the FP of myvi thread.. but anyway, it's better for a CM to be a TS..  whistling.gif
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I don't really care tbh. In LYN we're all the same. As our Prez likes to say, the post is there just so there's a face to it. Everyone does their equal duty of work here smile.gif

I don't think I fit the bill to be a TS anyways, I'm not active enough sweat.gif

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post Nov 12 2012, 12:45 PM

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BTW, last night I saw a white CFE Preve with rear bumper skirting like Dhuangs, looks very sporty, jelly betul wub.gif

Say what you want about Preve's ugly butt, but at night it looks really nice with that two lines of tail light, even better with the rear skirting.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 12 2012, 12:45 PM)
BTW, last night I saw a white CFE Preve with rear bumper skirting like Dhuangs, looks very sporty, jelly betul wub.gif

Say what you want about Preve's ugly butt, but at night it looks really nice with that two lines of tail light, even better with the rear skirting.
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yes that's what i've heard too - during the day, the high butt is ugly but at night, it looks good.

i am thinking if i were to get a preve cfe, i'd get bodykit and maybe change the Bosch HU to a bigger screen with reverse camera - maybe put it leather seats...

when do we think the facelift will be?
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QUOTE(shzewei @ Nov 12 2012, 11:09 AM)
hi all, i have a question here. what is the service interval for preve? the engine oil sticker wrote 10k and on the receipt it wrote 5k. btw i am using semi syn engine oil, planning to change the engine oil at SC every 10k and beside this i change the engine oil myself at 5k without tell SC anything about it. (can save some labour cost)
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proton recommend preve change EO at 10k for normal usage..u wan change at 5k also can...
i change every 8k using semi syn oil...
now mileage 13k+...1st service 1k change,2nd service 7k+,now wait 15k change biggrin.gif



AND CONGRAT FOR NEW V rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 12 2012, 01:26 PM)
proton recommend preve change EO at 10k for normal usage..u wan change at 5k also can...
i change every 8k using semi syn oil...
now mileage 13k+...1st service 1k change,2nd service 7k+,now wait 15k change biggrin.gif
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Thanks for reply. 10k interval even using semi syn oil?
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Thanks for reply. 10k interval even using semi syn oil?
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yes..but all is up to u...
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yes..but all is up to u...
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Maverick, if not mistaken, last time u mentioned that yr car seats started bulu come out. Did u manage to claim from SC?
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QUOTE(cwk150 @ Nov 12 2012, 03:06 PM)
Maverick, if not mistaken, last time u mentioned that yr car seats started bulu come out. Did u manage to claim from SC?
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still waiting parts la sad.gif ...driver seat only...bulu bulu and goyang goyang,biasa la proton sc u no telephone KAN diaorang they no follow up d...but now year end i also busy no time go sc la...
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 12 2012, 03:16 PM)
still waiting parts la sad.gif ...driver seat only...bulu bulu and goyang goyang,biasa la proton sc u no telephone KAN diaorang they no follow up d...but now year end i also busy no time go sc la...
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If proton have given leather seats or better seats, we do not have to replace the driver seat in the first place.
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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 12 2012, 03:25 PM)
If proton have given leather seats or better seats, we do not have to replace the driver seat in the first place.
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you are right. I totally agree nod.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 12 2012, 03:16 PM)
still waiting parts la sad.gif ...driver seat only...bulu bulu and goyang goyang,biasa la proton sc u no telephone KAN diaorang they no follow up d...but now year end i also busy no time go sc la...
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My 1 is rear seat left side, now started bulu bulu... Plan to ask SC together with power window regulator n ecu remapping next time.
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QUOTE(marquis @ Nov 12 2012, 12:03 PM)
Thanks for the heads up. Didn't notice laugh.gif
I don't really care tbh. In LYN we're all the same. As our Prez likes to say, the post is there just so there's a face to it. Everyone does their equal duty of work here smile.gif

I don't think I fit the bill to be a TS anyways, I'm not active enough sweat.gif

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ouh.. okay. sorry.. it's just my opinion only.. just ignore it.
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10AM wait till now @ COSE...
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QUOTE(JarodLeong @ Nov 12 2012, 03:47 PM)
10AM wait till now @ COSE...
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Too many issues to rectify is it? or COSE short of manpower due to long holidays?


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grats on the new thread, btw the new ECU/TCU got reduce some CVT whine and drone sound?
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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Nov 12 2012, 03:58 PM)
Too many issues to rectify is it? or COSE short of manpower due to long holidays?
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not many issues...just ask to do below only:
-normal service
-rusty
-driver power window
-remapping

according to the lady that attended me, COSE here lack of manpower. a lot resign.

walked to service bay just now, my car already at one of the bay there with engine on n hood open but noone was there...check behind the car, the rusty part still there... sweat.gif
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Seriously even technician complaining about proton's quality and cut cost end up they had to fix this and that.
Its funny that proton's technician telling me proton is sucks. Not sure if he is proton's technician or what, just saw him talking here and there and wearing proton's shirt.

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QUOTE(JarodLeong @ Nov 12 2012, 04:08 PM)
not many issues...just ask to do below only:
-normal service
-rusty
-driver power window
-remapping

according to the lady that attended me, COSE here lack of manpower. a lot resign.

walked to service bay just now, my car already at one of the bay there with engine on n hood open but noone was there...check behind the car, the rusty part still there... sweat.gif
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shocking.gif shocking.gif shakehead.gif

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maybe drb intend to keep the good ones and leave the bad ones..hopefully servicing will be faster..when i was at Cose also..i see many of them do a lots of walking here and there, wasting a lots of time on just walking alone. When service one car, three of them will group together, don't know talk what? Other cars just left unattended.
It take a few hours from attended time to car driven into service bay even appointment were made.. doh.gif
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about the rusty part at the exhaust part, can it be done at any service centre?

sometimes really frus when customers are waiting and see all technicians grouping together and do nothing..especially if it is just the normal service..

just now drove from south back to KL, the stupid AES camera keep flashing eventhough the cars are travelling within speed limit..not sure I kena flash or not, but i definitely was looking at the speedometer, travelling less than 90km/h .. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 12 2012, 05:10 PM)
about the rusty part at the exhaust part, can it be done at any service centre?

sometimes really frus when customers are waiting and see all technicians grouping together and do nothing..especially if it is just the normal service..

just now drove from south back to KL, the stupid AES camera keep flashing eventhough the cars are travelling within speed limit..not sure I kena flash or not, but i definitely was looking at the speedometer, travelling less than 90km/h ..  sweat.gif
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This kind of culture is tarnishing COSE and other SC for that matter. Lack of discipline or maybe head technician also like that? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 12 2012, 04:23 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
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Can i claim 1day salary from cose? Just now in progress doing remapping...if 6pm havent done can claim OT too? sad.gif
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i believe almost every workshop has their negative issue. I have a friend that works in C&C Mercedes benz The Curve..
He insist if you ever had the money to spend dont ever buy a mercedes..

this also applies to another friend that works in BMW Cyberjaya.

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QUOTE(aegis`- @ Nov 12 2012, 05:36 PM)
i believe almost every workshop has their negative issue. I have a friend that works in C&C Mercedes benz The Curve..
He insist if you ever had the money to spend dont ever buy a mercedes..

this also applies to another friend that works in BMW Cyberjaya.
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biasa la,my foreman work on volvo truck also told me volvo truck sux,dont ever buy it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 12 2012, 05:10 PM)
about the rusty part at the exhaust part, can it be done at any service centre?

sometimes really frus when customers are waiting and see all technicians grouping together and do nothing..especially if it is just the normal service..

just now drove from south back to KL, the stupid AES camera keep flashing eventhough the cars are travelling within speed limit..not sure I kena flash or not, but i definitely was looking at the speedometer, travelling less than 90km/h ..  sweat.gif
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You can do any service centre, for the rusty parts
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Hi all im the silent reader here and yes im enjoy reading your chit chat n info sharing here biggrin.gif I bought the red CFE (chassis no 138++) one month and a half ago and Im so please with the overall peformance of this car n I manage to reach 200KM/h on SKVE highway using manual mode.

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good to hear then. By the way, can u guys share some finding, between full cvt mode versus full manual mode(by pulling to the left)and also sat for iafm+ version versus full cvt mode, the diff in feeling during take off in the 1st gear, from standstill to move. Urs finding is highly appreciated. Tqvm.
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Im a big fan of manual/semi auto mode.. biggrin.gif I always switch to manual from stand still (slalu pas bayor dlm toll booth) and then press the car as hard as I could. Even with full manual mode, I really feel the real lag in gear 1 and I need to pedal shift gear 2 earlier to avoid smells something funny from my engine. So what can I say, maybe gear 1 was so short so I need to shift gear 1-2 around 2k-3k rpm. After that normally I switch gear around 3.5k rpm to feel the umphh.. However i still dunno what the best rpm to switch gear perfectly so I hope u guys can shed some light to me:D

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Greetings Preve owners,

Currently I'm seriously considering for Preve CFE so I need you guys to advice me on how's the usage so far ? In terms of fc, handling, after sale services, etc. Asking outside opinion will result to bashing, so I need user's opinion. Does the turbocharged has the umph feel ? Please advice notworthy.gif
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Greetings Preve owners,

Currently I'm seriously considering for Preve CFE so I need you guys to advice me on how's the usage so far ? In terms of fc, handling, after sale services, etc. Asking outside opinion will result to bashing, so I need user's opinion. Does the turbocharged has the umph feel ? Please advice notworthy.gif
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Im not so sure about FC and after sale services.. In terms of handling, I can say its very good because it have ESC (electronic stabiliser control) which many car in the same class didnt have.. Sy pernah nearly hit the small divider pillar on my right (didnt see it because of darky night) and my reflex drastically move the steering to the left but somehow the ESC help the car stablize my car by steering it back to right and balance the position of my car...
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QUOTE(afosz @ Nov 12 2012, 08:51 PM)
Greetings Preve owners,

Currently I'm seriously considering for Preve CFE so I need you guys to advice me on how's the usage so far ? In terms of fc, handling, after sale services, etc. Asking outside opinion will result to bashing, so I need user's opinion. Does the turbocharged has the umph feel ? Please advice notworthy.gif
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FC is good. highway is better. rm 80~85 can get to 480 to 520. depend on traffic condition. high hill or slope or lots of traffic light. highway one full tank manage to reach 670km full tank with remaining 70km before petrol fully deplete.

depend on your right foot. handling great. corner at high speed still safe. after sale service. from start till now i always go COSE. now their technician getting less and less. not sure current status but if normal service 1 hour. if need to rectify some minor issue. each issue they will give their timing to rectify is 1 hour.

So let say you have this list.

dashboard right hand side vibrate when standstill or when going up hill.
C pillar got some wind sound
gear knob plastic spoil
rusty petrol tank holder

If this four minor issue they will give each item 1 hour resolution.
If you have more to change or more complicated one will need to put car there one or two or even three days. to let them rectify.

but if you want go cose.. please make sure you take half day leave or one day leave. unless you got other friend or other transport to go to work. Dont go during friday. nothing much they can do cause friday break time longer 12 till 2.45 so by the time they need to rectify something you will end up going back at 4.30 or 5.00 pm.

Turbocharge 1.6 CFE is good. my last time small car 1.3 of course alot of different. kinda scary too if you press hard with S mode. torque steer towards the left. tyre will spin if you start from standstill if you really press down hard at S mode. the umpphh feel after 2k ~5.k rpm region. the rest will climb fast and easy around 160 kmph~ 180kmph range. reaching 190 is slower to reach 200. never go pass 200 mark yet. but that's the max i go. up hill is great. initial acceleration is great. of course cannot compare sports car but it really does have the ummphh. of course you wont stick to the chair when you accelerate. that is only 205 N-m torque. if got more like 400N-m in Subaru WRX then you can stick at the chair when accelerate. or 700 N-m torque like Lamborghini Aventador then you can get excited.

Try test drive yourself. during i test drive. the sale agent is girl...so when i whack corner at 110 ~120 she shriek a little while holding the handle on the roof. scary for her i think.
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just get my preve cfe updated ecu today and really can feel the power of the real preve i must say...even my fren who always complain my preve lazy to move suddenly speechless...now it just become complete for me lol....
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If proton have given leather seats or better seats, we do not have to replace the driver seat in the first place.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 12 2012, 04:00 PM)
grats on the new thread, btw the new ECU/TCU got reduce some CVT whine and drone sound?
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CVT whine sound is the gearbox design, nothing can be done unless you add sound insulation to the gearbox itself.
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got news or rumors regarding special edition yet?

so looking forward to it as a future purchase.
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What is the Suggested preve performance mods ? So far

1. Firestorm coil booster
2. K&n drop in filter
3. Voltage stabilizer + grounding
4. Sport rims+lowered

Any comments ? Hehe.


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Man, this preve is really a rusty car. Rust everywhere. Park at open space at morning. A short rain at noon. Get car at evening and found rust on all discbrakes! Inspect a viva that parked besides and found no trace of rust on its discbrakes. Makes me wonder what material being used for discbrake since it became rusty almost instantaneously after being sprinkled with water. Of course a short drive wipes it away but it gets back fast too whenever downpour happens. I thought preve use high performance brake like those of brembo ceramic, no? Ceramic wont rust aint it?

Apart from the known rusty exhaust holder, I saw rust too at many other parts especially those linkage that are in black paint. At least the rusty exhaust holder issue is absence in other cars like unser. Kinda worried how long can this global car last..
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QUOTE(LYNsucks @ Nov 13 2012, 01:07 AM)
Man, this preve is really a rusty car. Rust everywhere. Park at open space at morning. A short rain at noon. Get car at evening and found rust on all discbrakes! Inspect a viva that parked besides and found no trace of rust on its discbrakes. Makes me wonder what material being used for discbrake since it became rusty almost instantaneously after being sprinkled with water. Of course a short drive wipes it away but it gets back fast too whenever downpour happens. I thought preve use high performance brake like those of brembo ceramic, no? Ceramic wont rust aint it?

Apart from the known rusty exhaust holder, I saw rust too at many other parts especially those linkage that are in black paint. At least the rusty exhaust holder issue is absence in other cars like unser. Kinda worried how long can this global car last..
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Haiyo.. my bro civic also rusty all disc brakes after raining. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(LYNsucks @ Nov 13 2012, 01:07 AM)
Man, this preve is really a rusty car. Rust everywhere. Park at open space at morning. A short rain at noon. Get car at evening and found rust on all discbrakes! Inspect a viva that parked besides and found no trace of rust on its discbrakes. Makes me wonder what material being used for discbrake since it became rusty almost instantaneously after being sprinkled with water. Of course a short drive wipes it away but it gets back fast too whenever downpour happens. I thought preve use high performance brake like those of brembo ceramic, no? Ceramic wont rust aint it?

Apart from the known rusty exhaust holder, I saw rust too at many other parts especially those linkage that are in black paint. At least the rusty exhaust holder issue is absence in other cars like unser. Kinda worried how long can this global car last..
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Rust on the disc brake is normal, happens to all cars.

Ceramic refers to the material in the brake pad, not the disc.
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QUOTE(LYNsucks @ Nov 13 2012, 01:07 AM)
Man, this preve is really a rusty car. Rust everywhere. Park at open space at morning. A short rain at noon. Get car at evening and found rust on all discbrakes! Inspect a viva that parked besides and found no trace of rust on its discbrakes. Makes me wonder what material being used for discbrake since it became rusty almost instantaneously after being sprinkled with water. Of course a short drive wipes it away but it gets back fast too whenever downpour happens. I thought preve use high performance brake like those of brembo ceramic, no? Ceramic wont rust aint it?

Apart from the known rusty exhaust holder, I saw rust too at many other parts especially those linkage that are in black paint. At least the rusty exhaust holder issue is absence in other cars like unser. Kinda worried how long can this global car last..
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Your comments are valuable and should be shared with all members here.

Do you know the material of disc brakes make of? Is it ceramic?
It isn't ceramic, it usually made of grey iron. It is prone to corrosion, or in your term - RUST.
Have a good read over here for your own knowledge, you will benefit from it.

Rust will take time to form, so how long was the Viva you inspected have exposed to wet condition as compared to the Preve? You have no idea don't you?
Will the Viva disc brake rust?

Again, you think that Preve use high performance brakes? Seriously what make you think so that a normal sedan use high performance parts and sell at reasonable price?
VW Golf TSI uses brembo disc brake? Just wonder.

Rusty exhaust holder is a known issue and Proton has addressed to all dealers to provide measurement to overcome this matter.
I have seen Unser where the rust issue was horrible, the whole floor panel rust and it isn't just one unit. Seriously Unser that reliable to you? It was mean to be a goods carrier but Malaysians treated it as a MPV.


Oh ya, for your information where I obtained from Brembo brakes website, their disc brakes are made of high carbon iron. Iron with high carbon content usually are higher in tensile strength compared to iron with low carbon content, FYI.



Anyway, thanks for dropping by and amuse us. You did a great job.

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hi, i read a bit about the remapping at v15. Would like to ask the owners who had done the remapping of the ECU/TCU, how does it affects the FC? Better or worse?

I am seriously considering of getting the preve cfe. it would be great if proton comes out with a preve SE. for me, 2 must-have items in the SE version: leather seats and reverse camera.
Body kits will be a bonus!
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not even a problem but want to exaggerate.
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Reverse camera can be installed for less than RM200, if you know where to find.
Leather seats? No comment.

FC? It think it will be too soon to discuss about that now, most of the owners flashed to latest ECU/TCU previous week, it will take sometime for the gearbox to re-learn the driving pattern, in few weeks time u shall see more info in this.
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I'm loving this new ECU/TCU. Better pickup and i can maintain rev below 2k for city drive. Highway 120km/h only 2.5k rev. FC also very good. last time my best fc is 8.5L/100km. now can get 7.6L/100km thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(K2002 @ Nov 12 2012, 10:01 PM)
FC is good. highway is better. rm 80~85 can get to 480 to 520. depend on traffic condition. high hill or slope or lots of traffic light. highway one full tank manage to reach 670km full tank with remaining 70km before petrol fully deplete.

depend on your right foot. handling great. corner at high speed still safe. after sale service. from start till now i always go COSE. now their technician getting less and less. not sure current status but if normal service 1 hour. if need to rectify some minor issue. each issue they will give their timing to rectify is 1 hour.

So let say you have this list.

dashboard right hand side vibrate when standstill or when going up hill.
C pillar got some wind sound
gear knob plastic spoil
rusty petrol tank holder

If this four minor issue they will give each item 1 hour resolution.
If you have more to change or more complicated one will need to put car there one or two or even three days. to let them rectify.

but if you want go cose.. please make sure you take half day leave or one day leave. unless you got other friend or other transport to go to work. Dont go during friday. nothing much they can do cause friday break time longer 12 till 2.45 so by the time they need to rectify something you will end up going back at 4.30 or 5.00 pm.

Turbocharge 1.6 CFE is good. my last time small car 1.3 of course alot of different. kinda scary too if you press hard with S mode. torque steer towards the left. tyre will spin if you start from standstill if you really press down hard at S mode. the umpphh feel after 2k ~5.k rpm region. the rest will climb fast and easy around 160 kmph~ 180kmph range. reaching 190 is slower to reach 200. never go pass 200 mark yet. but that's the max i go. up hill is great. initial acceleration is great. of course cannot compare sports car but it really does have the ummphh. of course you wont stick to the chair when you accelerate. that is only 205 N-m torque. if got more like 400N-m in Subaru WRX then you can stick at the chair when accelerate. or 700 N-m torque like Lamborghini Aventador then you can get excited.

Try test drive yourself. during i test drive. the sale agent is girl...so when i whack corner at 110 ~120 she shriek a little while holding the handle on the roof. scary for her i think.
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Good writing, very much appreciated. As for the fc, I have a Wira and Saga FL with both averaging 10-12km/l. Needless to say, I usually refill full tank around 30l+ at RM 60 and mileage can go as far as 350km for city drive. Of course for long stretch clear highway is further, around 400km. I guess fc wise for Proton cars pretty much the same.

As for turbocharged, my benchmark would be 4G93T as I've driven a Waja with it. On paper specs, it is lower but it is a 1.6L but able whack a corner at 100-120kmph for on the road car is pretty neat. I don't usually drive fast as Wira 1.5 pick up is slower, but when I driven my bro Waja 1.8T, getting to 120kmph at ease gets me excited a bit especially in overtaking at high speed. You just overtake without the need to take the speed momentum.

And yeah, I'll test drive it to believe. nod.gif

QUOTE(freaz @ Nov 13 2012, 06:39 AM)
I'm loving this new ECU/TCU. Better pickup and i can maintain rev below 2k for city drive. Highway 120km/h only 2.5k rev. FC also very good. last time my best fc is 8.5L/100km. now can get 7.6L/100km  thumbup.gif
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That is very good fc ! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(freaz @ Nov 13 2012, 06:39 AM)
I'm loving this new ECU/TCU. Better pickup and i can maintain rev below 2k for city drive. Highway 120km/h only 2.5k rev. FC also very good. last time my best fc is 8.5L/100km. now can get 7.6L/100km  thumbup.gif
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Very good FC indeed. After remapping my car in Ipoh i'm rushing back to Teluk Intan. I'm driving around 100-120km/h and once in a while speeding up to 160km/h using Ipoh-Lumut road and average FC shows 7.6l/100km. Will monitor how it perform for long distance driving later when I'm going to Kota Bharu, Shah Alam and Kuala Perlis next week. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 13 2012, 02:05 AM)
not even a problem but want to exaggerate.
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When Proton tagged the car with the word "GLOBAL", many people have very high expectation...including me, initially..but once you read and learn more..you will understand more.
Thank you for your concern LYNsucks.


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Your comments are valuable and should be shared with all members here.

Do you know the material of disc brakes make of? Is it ceramic?
It isn't ceramic, it usually made of grey iron. It is prone to corrosion, or in your term - RUST.
Have a good read over here for your own knowledge, you will benefit from it.

Rust will take time to form, so how long was the Viva you inspected have exposed to wet condition as compared to the Preve? You have no idea don't you?
Will the Viva disc brake rust?

Again, you think that Preve use high performance brakes? Seriously what make you think so that a normal sedan use high performance parts and sell at reasonable price?
VW Golf TSI uses brembo disc  brake? Just wonder.

Rusty exhaust holder is a known issue and Proton has addressed to all dealers to provide measurement to overcome this matter.
I have seen Unser where the rust issue was horrible, the whole floor panel rust and it isn't just one unit. Seriously Unser that reliable to you? It was mean to be a goods carrier but Malaysians treated it as a MPV.
Oh ya, for your information where I obtained from Brembo brakes website, their disc brakes are made of high carbon iron. Iron with high carbon content usually are higher in tensile strength compared to iron with low carbon content, FYI.
Anyway, thanks for dropping by and amuse us. You did a great job.
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Good morning all Previans,
I heard we could ask selected 88 service outlets to remap CFE ECU and TCU for affected chassis numbers.
Has anybody done for this? May I know how long their remapping your CFE?

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Good morning all Previans,
I heard we could ask selected 88 service outlets to remap CFE ECU and TCU for affected chassis numbers.
Has anybody done for this? May I know how long their remapping your CFE?
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Some of the members here have done it...
Positive reviews, i must say... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
According to the chasis number, mine should be affected too...but i'm still waiting for a good time (tunggu cuti approve) to do it at the SC... sweat.gif
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Hi guys. Any idea on how to take out the side mirror cover? I would like to make it black.
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arthur88, it was a night before public holiday, else I won't be bother to reply him.

Again, I'm not feeding the troll, just give him some explanation. If this fella still come back with more ridiculous reply, he will just show how naive he is. whistling.gif
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Anyone here tried Ezy touch up paint before?

Just realized a few days back that my bonnet has another 2 extra chip off spots, damn sakit hati everytime I look at it as it's quite obvious.

If anyone has tried it before, pls let me know. No point sending for repainting as the car is still new.
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QUOTE(freaz @ Nov 13 2012, 06:39 AM)
I'm loving this new ECU/TCU. Better pickup and i can maintain rev below 2k for city drive. Highway 120km/h only 2.5k rev. FC also very good. last time my best fc is 8.5L/100km. now can get 7.6L/100km  thumbup.gif
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Very good FC wor. Will ask for remapping during the 10k service.

QUOTE(rich8833 @ Nov 13 2012, 07:59 AM)
is your windscreen solved?
Yup, new windscreen being replaced but without the ecotint. Now making noise to ICare to claim for the ecotint which cost 3k for it. blink.gif
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QUOTE(valentine1666 @ Nov 12 2012, 10:02 PM)
just get my preve cfe updated ecu today and really can feel the power of the real preve i must say...even my fren who always complain my preve lazy to move suddenly speechless...now it just become complete for me lol....
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QUOTE(freaz @ Nov 13 2012, 06:39 AM)
I'm loving this new ECU/TCU. Better pickup and i can maintain rev below 2k for city drive. Highway 120km/h only 2.5k rev. FC also very good. last time my best fc is 8.5L/100km. now can get 7.6L/100km  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(viperz982 @ Nov 13 2012, 07:21 AM)
Very good FC indeed.  After remapping my car in Ipoh i'm rushing back to Teluk Intan. I'm driving around 100-120km/h and once in a while speeding up to 160km/h using Ipoh-Lumut road and average FC shows 7.6l/100km. Will monitor how it perform for long distance driving later when I'm going to Kota Bharu, Shah Alam and Kuala Perlis next week.  rclxm9.gif
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seen like very good feedback about the new ecu update...will go sc done asap icon_rolleyes.gif

fc also become better?hope so,cos now my fc very good for me already smile.gif
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I actually thought preve's disc brake material is different. Forgotten who said it, I heard they said the brake are more powerful than others.
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I actually thought preve's disc brake material is different. Forgotten who said it, I heard they said the brake are more powerful than others.
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Happy Deepavali to all previans who are celebrating!

just a quick question though, i heard some said that the fire red color has been re-release, is that true? can anyone confirm this?
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when Preve test drive got accident, everybody bash here and there, how about this:

http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/201...era-kemalangan/
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when Preve test drive got accident, everybody bash here and there, how about this:

http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/201...era-kemalangan/
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They will say the driver la! mabuk still want drive. Woah nissan so good ah, high speed bang also damage so less. Good car! Everybody should buy it. rclxms.gif
edit: just saw the tyre also same like preve. drive shaft patah. See the comments below, all said that proton supporter will come and bash it. Then why they come and bash proton in the first place?
Now I'm feeling rclxm9.gif

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They will say the driver la! mabuk still want drive. Woah nissan so good ah, high speed bang also damage so less. Good car! Everybody should buy it.  rclxms.gif
edit: just saw the tyre also same like preve. drive shaft patah. See the comments below, all said that proton supporter will come and bash it. Then why they come and bash proton in the first place?
Now I'm feeling  rclxm9.gif
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waiting for proton bashers to say something...anything... brows.gif

lai...lai... wink.gif wink.gif
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2nd Fuel up of my CFE(@+-200km) manage to get 400km till the fuel indicator lits up. 60% Highway and i was quite aggresive on the throttle.. already do 170 on the day i got my car..

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Got news.
"Nissan satu jenama yang dipercayai dunia,
Proton hanya berstatus cap ayam.
Kemalangan tersebut satu kes terpencil yg tak harus disensasikan. Ratusan ribu Almera telah dihantar pada pelanggan diseluruh dunia dan berterusan , manakala proton preve seunit mungkin belum terjual luar malaysia….. Sedih……hu hu hu"
This is how they protect their "branded" nissan. Why they bash proton in the first place and now when they are in worst situation than preve they said this. Sad case. I seriously bet they will f*** the test drive driver really hard for not taking care of their nissan. Anyway, I see the divider is still good, maybe he is driving 10km/h brows.gif
rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif *Can't control my hyper*

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Dont be silly, you didnt hear ppl say meh? Almera 5 star NCAP, ALL Potong cars 1 star oni.

If Preve involve in the same accident, ppl say maybe putus into 2 already whistling.gif
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Dont be silly, you didnt hear ppl say meh? Almera 5 star NCAP, ALL Potong cars 1 star oni.

If Preve involve in the same accident, ppl say maybe putus into 2 already whistling.gif
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If that car is preve again, I wonder how basher will bash. icon_idea.gif
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Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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Happy Deepavali to all previans who are celebrating!

just a quick question though, i heard some said that the fire red color has been re-release, is that true? can anyone confirm this?
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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 05:22 PM)
Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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5000? take it.
Proton gives RM2k, I dun remember margin is more than 3k, they almost earn zero even after add in the handling fee.

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He said he don't bother the margin. He just want to achieve his sale target, 20 units per month. Coz the incentives are more worth..
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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 07:00 PM)
He said he don't bother the margin. He just want to achieve his sale target, 20 units per month. Coz the incentives are more worth..
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Somehow, not many dealers than I know that doing below 20 units per month.
He certainly is desperate.

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Just booked! Hehehe..
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Hi preve-ians,

I was driving this preve model IAFM+ CVT, and i find it seriously very disturbing especially night time because at the gear shift pedal, there is no light on the alphabet P, R, N, D. It is slightly disturbing as i have to look into the speedometer to see the alphabet appearing.

I check the 1st page, the comment was the light was not bright enough and i believe that applies for the CFE model, but for my case is it me or any other preve~rians could shed some light on my queries?

IS there such button or swithc to adjust the brightness? Also appreciate if anyone out there can shed some light on this matter.


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Anyone uses cover on their steering? Found this recently:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


It's silicone steering cover featuring negative ions. Guess it gives better grip due to its rubbery properties. Better than leather I suppose. Anyone uses this before? BTW, theres glow in the dark version too:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Explanation from its web:

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http://www.cameleoncover.com/Product-Benefits.html

Effects of ions

Frequent exposure to electrical equipment in operation has been reported to cause a feeling of fatigue or illness. This is believed due to the positive ions generated by the apparatus.


Negative ions appear to contribute to positive changes in mood and behavior.


Another way that negative ions may promote heath is that allergy-provoking particles such as dust and pollen possess a positive electrical charge. When negative ions are introduced to the environment, they appear to counteract the allergenic effects of these positively charged ions.
I wonder how true it is and whether can be fitted on preve. Anyone?
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Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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Recommend the dealer to me, i might trade in my vios for a second preve
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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 05:22 PM)
Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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Hi, which dealer is that? Can recommend? at 5k discount, does it still come with free service??
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QUOTE(neo3koolio @ Nov 13 2012, 08:09 PM)
Hi preve-ians,

I was driving this preve model IAFM+ CVT, and i find it seriously very disturbing especially night time because at the gear shift pedal, there is no light on the alphabet P, R, N, D. It is slightly disturbing as i have to look into the speedometer to see the alphabet appearing.

I check the 1st page, the comment was the light was not bright enough and i believe that applies for the CFE model, but for my case is it me or any other preve~rians could shed some light on my queries?

IS there such button or swithc to adjust the  brightness? Also appreciate if anyone out there can shed some light on this matter.
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This is how you change the light setting. Select at right hand side until you see the light bar. press and hold for 3 to 4 sec then you can see it is blinking. then select the brightness you want. Bear in mind this setting will affect the dashboard light and the gear lever indicator.



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Pls pm me if anyone want the proton dealer's name..not nice to put someone numbers here rite..
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Recommend the dealer to me, i might trade in my vios for a second preve
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Recommend the dealer to me, i might trade in my vios for a second preve
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Why you trade in a 5-star NCAP car for a 1-star NCAP car? whistling.gif
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Hi, which dealer is that? Can recommend? at 5k discount, does it still come with free service??
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 13 2012, 08:20 PM)
Recommend the dealer to me, i might trade in my vios for a second preve
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Why you trade in a 5-star NCAP car for a 1-star NCAP car?  whistling.gif
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1 star nevermind coz preve have turbo brows.gif
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I driving vios and i booked preve also  tongue.gif
1 star nevermind coz preve have turbo  brows.gif
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no no must not say not good. must say they are improving alot. saga is good example.
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 13 2012, 11:11 PM)
cannot la, potong bad, 1 star only. Safety not good, quality not good. Dugong better  rclxms.gif 5 star ANCAP, no need air bag also won't die.
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only lousy milo tin car need many airbag...because chassis fail,airbag safe u whistling.gif
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Anything wrong for having seconf preve, secondly after the remap of the ecu/tcu i have even more interested in this car then my stupid vios. Actually the only good point about vois is the resale value other then that i see no reason to pay for the jap f.... car. If preve will to launch earlier i wouldnt be having a vios.


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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 13 2012, 09:21 PM)
Why you trade in a 5-star NCAP car for a 1-star NCAP car?  whistling.gif
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Why you trade in a 5-star NCAP car for a 1-star NCAP car?  whistling.gif
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Dont bother what basher have in mind, we know what this preve is good or even better then those f..... jap car, becos i have been driving my preve for 5 months. Just ignore them becos basher know nuts about preve n they r more happy if u reply


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interested on Preve CFE too as going for bigger car for family usage, may end up with end of this year / early or end of next year...
any common issues from Preve from current batch?

QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 05:22 PM)
Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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bro... can PM me the dealer contact and location?
but what means is no discount for NCD? thought our NCD are transferable?
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S'gor beri tempoh 14 hari tanggalkan kamera AES

Now Preve can go faster in Selangor..


SOS


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S'gor beri tempoh 14 hari tanggalkan kamera AES

Now Preve can go faster in Selangor..
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then probably they will move the camera to KL...so more for KL?

btw..about our POI Warning List, recently I saw a few new n big camera at bukit jalil highway, LDP highway, Seremban Highway and...forgot...are they AES too? cos POI Warning did not alert me or they are AES but not in the list?

further more, I was at Kinrara but the POI Warning can alert me about Subang AES or Kepong AES hmm.gif tat time i set alert me within 2km la now change to 1km already...but tak kan 2 km from Puchong Kinrara is Subang or Kepong rclxub.gif
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wow....this Preve look so cun ma.... thumbup.gif

bila nak keluar staff purchase ni, slowpok betul.... doh.gif

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i need help on how to proxy thru the great firewall of china

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Help help help...!!
i cant google a thing everything seems block..
im using a mac please pm me the instruction and proxy svr stuff sad.gif helppp

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Have you tried to change the DNS?
Try to Bing/Yahoo any other method. Uncle Google won't help you over there bro.

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 14 2012, 05:55 AM)
Anything wrong for having seconf preve, secondly after the remap of the ecu/tcu i have even more interested in this car then my stupid vios. Actually the only good point about vois is the resale value other then that i see no reason to pay for the jap f.... car. If preve will to launch earlier i wouldnt be having a vios.
nothing wrong bro..boring la if have 2 same d car...maybe wait proton launch other model lie hatchback preve ke?2 door preve?proton civic,proton accord laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 14 2012, 12:03 PM)
nothing wrong bro..boring la if have 2 same d car...maybe wait proton launch other model lie hatchback preve ke?2 door preve?proton civic,proton accord laugh.gif
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take key open wrong car scenario will happen.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(K2002 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:20 PM)
no no must not say not good. must say they are improving alot. saga is good example.
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yaya. should say there are improved a lot nod.gif
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can tell proton customize for 2 car use 1 key ma... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Press 1 button, 2 cars doors open at the same time tongue.gif


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hi guys, is this power window issues solved on current batch?

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nothing wrong bro..boring la if have 2 same d car...maybe wait proton launch other model lie hatchback preve ke?2 door preve?proton civic,proton accord laugh.gif
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If really can get 5k discount , i wouldnt mind to have same car. To be honest before the ecu/tcu upgrade i was like wtf with this car. Secondly i have a good resale value for my dugong n i just have to top up small amount to get another new better car compare with the dugong. Sorry i am not bashing dugong but through my experience between the 2 cars.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 14 2012, 04:28 PM)
If really can get 5k discount , i wouldnt mind to have same car. To be honest before the ecu/tcu upgrade i was like wtf with this car. Secondly i have a good resale value for my dugong n i just have to top up small amount to get another new better car compare with the dugong. Sorry i am not bashing dugong but through my experience between the 2 cars.
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No need feel sorry. Is kinda less dugong owner bash dugong. Almost all of them hide their cars' problems. But for proton, they share all over the world. But other brands, even though they had to take out their engine, they still say ok wouldn't mind.
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 14 2012, 04:28 PM)
If really can get 5k discount , i wouldnt mind to have same car. To be honest before the ecu/tcu upgrade i was like wtf with this car. Secondly i have a good resale value for my dugong n i just have to top up small amount to get another new better car compare with the dugong. Sorry i am not bashing dugong but through my experience between the 2 cars.
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all pm have been replied..good to see many ppl love the preve.. smile.gif
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How`s the firestorm with the new mapping?
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You go SC got unplug your firestorm?
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everytime go SC will unplug...but since i install firestorm, they never open my hood...next service only they open it...


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Arthur..
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barely anything noticeable with new mapping...just that the torque is there with firestorm...but BARELY noticeable...

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everytime go SC will unplug...but since i install firestorm, they never open my hood...next service only they open it...


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Unplug only? No need take out?
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u take out?
so far i go there twice i didnt take out, but fortunately they didnt open the hood also....
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u take out?
so far i go there twice i didnt take out, but fortunately they didnt open the hood also....
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I didn't have firestorm yet. Just thinking no need to buy if not really much difference after new mapping. Wanted to know if i wanted to buy then need keep taking out or not if go sc.
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when claim warranty, only take out. normal service, not necessary to take out.
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I didn't have firestorm yet. Just thinking no need to buy if not really much difference after new mapping. Wanted to know if i wanted to buy then need keep taking out or not if go sc.
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interested on Preve CFE too as going for bigger car for family usage, may end up with end of this year / early or end of next year...
any common issues from Preve from current batch?
bro... can PM me the dealer contact and location?
but what means is no discount for NCD? thought our NCD are transferable?
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Bro win, can pm me the dealer address n company name, if possible contact person.tq

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why proton dont put firestorm inside before they launch this car. actually all the car maker should have put this thing inside their car so that we dont need to buy extra stuffs.
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QUOTE(K2002 @ Nov 14 2012, 10:41 PM)
why proton dont put firestorm inside before they launch this car. actually all the car maker should have put this thing inside their car so that we dont need to buy extra stuffs.
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and proton should put UR bar also for stock car...no need we to add on drool.gif
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and proton should put UR bar also for stock car...no need we to add on drool.gif
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Ya about this bar. i check at this website. http://ultraracing.com.my/ does any have the full set? how stiff is the car? will it be too stiff until dont feel great at the end this kind of things just add up extra weight to our car?

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anyone know if its possible to re-wire the LED in the headlights to be actual DAYTIME running lights instead of only switching on with the main lights?
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anyone know if its possible to re-wire the LED in the headlights to be actual DAYTIME running lights instead of only switching on with the main lights?
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There are people who have done that. Tap the LED wire to any components that gonna run once the engine ignites.
Eg aircond compressor.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 14 2012, 11:12 PM)
There are people who have done that. Tap the LED wire to any components that gonna run once the engine ignites.
Eg aircond compressor.
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hmm DAYTIME running lights is a bit different from preve. i saw audi, lexus, volkswagen, bmw. when morning they open DAYTIME running lights the led only power on. the rear lights dont have.

if we open the DAYTIME running lights the back light also on...so during morning or afternoon it is not that good looking actually...


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QUOTE(K2002 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:20 PM)
hmm DAYTIME running lights is a bit different from preve. i saw audi, lexus, volkswagen, bmw. when morning they open DAYTIME running lights the led only power on. the rear lights dont have.

if we open the DAYTIME running lights the back light also on...so during morning or afternoon it is not that good looking actually...
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yup, thats why im wondering if there's a way to remap the front LED to a switch, so we can choose to switch it on/off by its own smile.gif
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mayb have to make additional button.... mean while anyone got try this voltage stabilizer ah? [WTS] DIY Voltage Stabilizer (Upgraded V2), Best performance VS, 2Yr 1-1 exchange (Performance Parts) (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1289791)
i dunno if this thing add with firestorm got any big improvement or not? any one tried both already on preve?
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preve front LED is not as bright as DRL...daytime hardly to see la...
maybe go koyak the Audi headlamp DRL and put inside preve headlamp can le.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(K2002 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:41 PM)
mayb have to make additional button.... mean while anyone got try this voltage stabilizer ah? [WTS] DIY Voltage Stabilizer (Upgraded V2), Best performance VS, 2Yr 1-1 exchange (Performance Parts) (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1289791)
i dunno if this thing add with firestorm got any big improvement or not? any one tried both already on preve?
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both are different item which connects to different component which serves different purpose. Imagine you have a piece of steak. Without salt, it would be bland, and without pepper, it would be only salty but not spicy. WIth both salt and pepper = ???
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QUOTE(K2002 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:20 PM)
hmm DAYTIME running lights is a bit different from preve. i saw audi, lexus, volkswagen, bmw. when morning they open DAYTIME running lights the led only power on. the rear lights dont have.

if we open the DAYTIME running lights the back light also on...so during morning or afternoon it is not that good looking actually...
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If not mistaken.drex chan from ea auto manage to reconfigure the CAN BUS system in preve to change the led light to DRL. this done without tempering any wire..i think it is posible to also reco figure the wing mirror auto refolding function..

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QUOTE(K2002 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:20 PM)
hmm DAYTIME running lights is a bit different from preve. i saw audi, lexus, volkswagen, bmw. when morning they open DAYTIME running lights the led only power on. the rear lights dont have.

if we open the DAYTIME running lights the back light also on...so during morning or afternoon it is not that good looking actually...
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its not running day light in preve, its position lamp by the way. Normally used bulb, but in preve used led.
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How to know they updated both ecu and tcu. Some of them said the sc only update tcu but not ecu. Also, when cold start rpm not stable, keep up and down. Normal issue?
ALso, where got new ecu/tcu feedback? Want to check through then update. Later regret.

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its not running day light in preve, its position lamp by the way. Normally used bulb, but in preve used led.
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Thats right, but they design it in such a way that it looks like DRL inside the headlamp, so its kinda misleading in a way.
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 15 2012, 01:21 PM)
How to know they updated both ecu and tcu. Some of them said the sc only update tcu but not ecu. Also, when cold start rpm not stable, keep up and down. Normal issue?
ALso, where got new ecu/tcu feedback? Want to check through then update. Later regret.
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technician update the tcu and/or ecu just by using laptop...they will connect a cable to a socket below steering.

how to know they update ecu? as i said before, observe the file they choose to update when updating new ECU...
everytime either they want to update tcu or ecu, two of this thing have to be done together...

before this, before got new ecu, i go eon sc update tcu...they use the old ecu and reflash into my car...
the step is the same, just that they use different file (the file contains ecu settings...)

if u unable to observe, then u will only know it after u drive it... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 15 2012, 02:21 PM)
technician update the tcu and/or ecu just by using laptop...they will connect a cable to a socket below steering.

how to know they update ecu? as i said before, observe the file they choose to update when updating new ECU...
everytime either they want to update tcu or ecu, two of this thing have to be done together...

before this, before got new ecu, i go eon sc update tcu...they use the old ecu and reflash into my car...
the step is the same, just that they use different file (the file contains ecu settings...)

if u unable to observe, then u will only know it after u drive it... whistling.gif
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I know tcu improves acceleration and power. what about ecu?
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 14 2012, 11:54 PM)
preve front LED is not as bright as DRL...daytime hardly to see la...
maybe go koyak the Audi headlamp DRL and put inside preve headlamp can le.. biggrin.gif
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I know tcu improves acceleration and power. what about ecu?
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fc way lesser...tcu controls rpm..i think..
if u notice at "instant", which i mentioned several times, u will see the fuel consumption is way lesser...
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 15 2012, 02:33 PM)
fc way lesser...tcu controls rpm..i think..
if u notice at "instant", which i mentioned several times, u will see the fuel consumption is way lesser...
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ok thanks. Because everytime i go eon sg pinang, the sa all very.... like don't know anything. Some technician also same, all also don't know. Later they use old ecu and tcu also don't know. the head also not there every time, depends on luck also.
Anyway, still any issue with new ecu and tcu other than the engine mati if slot D>R fast ?
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 15 2012, 02:45 PM)
ok thanks. Because everytime i go eon sg pinang, the sa all very.... like don't know anything. Some technician also same, all also don't know. Later they use old ecu and tcu also don't know. the head also not there every time, depends on luck also.
Anyway, still any issue with new ecu and tcu other than the engine mati if slot D>R fast ?
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so far, nothing bad happen yet...in future, hopefully no...


Added on November 15, 2012, 6:10 pmjust now i let my sister drive my car again...this time her feedback is...wah...i duno how come i can drive the speed up to 80km/h....so fast achieve 80km/h...next time i wan drive again...

hearing her feedback proves new ecu/tcu improves alot...

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 15 2012, 06:08 PM)
so far, nothing bad happen yet...in future, hopefully no...


Added on November 15, 2012, 6:10 pmjust now i let my sister drive my car again...this time her feedback is...wah...i duno how come i can drive the speed up to 80km/h....so fast achieve 80km/h...next time i wan drive again...

hearing her feedback proves new ecu/tcu improves alot...
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hi arthur, does this apply to IAFM+ ?

it seems like you getting good news from the new ECU/TCU...

my car is going to have service 10k... and i also will go so EON Sg Pinang..
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hi arthur, does this apply to IAFM+ ?

it seems like you getting good news from the new ECU/TCU...

my car is going to have service 10k... and i also will go so EON Sg Pinang..
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Pm me also. I am interested. Thank you. Salesman contact, location.
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 15 2012, 06:08 PM)
so far, nothing bad happen yet...in future, hopefully no...


Added on November 15, 2012, 6:10 pmjust now i let my sister drive my car again...this time her feedback is...wah...i duno how come i can drive the speed up to 80km/h....so fast achieve 80km/h...next time i wan drive again...

hearing her feedback proves new ecu/tcu improves alot...
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Had a trip to Sauk - Kuala Kangsar few hours ago for a dinner.
Had bad experience with Preve on the highway, the car hardly above to accelerate from 110km/h up to 150km/h....

Very much unlike what I had with the OLD ecu.
Hopefully its because of new ECU/TCU still learning my driving habit coz this is my first trip with more than 110km/h after the ECU/TCU mapping
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 15 2012, 11:57 PM)
Had a trip to Sauk - Kuala Kangsar few hours ago for a dinner.
Had bad experience with Preve on the highway, the car hardly above to accelerate from 110km/h up to 150km/h....

Very much unlike what I had with the OLD ecu.
Hopefully its because of new ECU/TCU still learning my driving habit coz this is my first trip with more than 110km/h after the ECU/TCU mapping
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I wanted to update this saturday. Need to see more feedback then can go le.
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 16 2012, 12:02 AM)
I wanted to update this saturday. Need to see more feedback then can go le.
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You should go. The feedback is good.
Perhaps TCU/ECU need to time to relearn everything.....
I'm still getting pretty bad FC....but pickup is much better than before.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 12:11 AM)
You should go. The feedback is good.
Perhaps TCU/ECU need to time to relearn everything.....
I'm still getting pretty bad FC....but pickup is much better than before.
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today i try kiapreve car which he already updated with new ecu n tcu few day ago..
fuhhh...wat a big diff with my old ecu/tcu car...acc is much much much more respond and no lack at...press a little the rpm alreaday shoot up to 2k+,also the speed climb very fast...tried it at highway,and i can say no more lag anymore thumbup.gif

but the rpm easy shoot high n down very fast also when no acc...scare the fc will higher..will go to update my car nxt week rclxm9.gif
speed until 120km/h only...not yet try high speed...


wit this new ecu/tcu updated...that was the real PREVE smile.gif
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Very interesting with this new ecu n tcu updated
I had make appointment with Puchong SC to update this

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 15 2012, 11:57 PM)
Had a trip to Sauk - Kuala Kangsar few hours ago for a dinner.
Had bad experience with Preve on the highway, the car hardly above to accelerate from 110km/h up to 150km/h....

Very much unlike what I had with the OLD ecu.
Hopefully its because of new ECU/TCU still learning my driving habit coz this is my first trip with more than 110km/h after the ECU/TCU mapping
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assume its because the new tcu is still learning ur driving style gua...
but mine (with firestorm), the pickup and rpm stable only...

never drive without firestorm for long period except 30-40 minutes after applying new tcu/ecu last friday...

i did try top speed on tuesday, nothing to do that night, then got one of my fren ajak me go lepak2, then i ajak him go try top speed from juru toll to taiping utara...
0-160 no problem at all...seems like it only takes 10-15 seconds to reach 160....but to reach 200 from 185, abit hard, some more traffic...but i manage to get 190 though...


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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 12:11 AM)
You should go. The feedback is good.
Perhaps TCU/ECU need to time to relearn everything.....
I'm still getting pretty bad FC....but pickup is much better than before.
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what is ur current fc?

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Good morning to all Previans..still enjoying the holiday .. biggrin.gif

anyone tried sitting at the back of preve, moving along those taman uneven road...

notice the rattling noise on the speaker dashboard and the noise from outside is really annoying!! it is totally diff when sitting infront as the driver..

Preve need some improvement on the noise level inside the car if it wish to be a global car.....there are some other minor things not right about the car but I would just brush it aside since it is not much of a problem..ex: the front passenger door need to close harder than the rest, the boot of the car is not properly fit (a bit slanting, notice during my first wash on the car, was admiring the backside when I notice it doh.gif ), 'krik krik krik' sound inside the car (still figuring out where the sound come from)..

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Good Morning Fellow Preveians! thumbup.gif

Haapy Flying Friday Btw. rclxm9.gif So busy the whole week and now V16 edy. Congrats Marquis, the new TS!

Love all the sarcasm guys. laugh.gif Cannot stand from laughing alone in my office.

Heard a lot of good feedback from u guys who has done the ECU/TCU remap. Other than Allen's who's managed to drive the car on a long range trip where the top speed is capped at 150-160 only. Well that's one thing is what mak me stop & think again whether should I update it or not. But like Maverick said, his FC is already good but when he drove kiapreve's car the diff is there, damn it's so tempting..

Anyhow, quick update, done 3rd service (10k) at Semambu's Proton SC (cost RM210). Been here 2nd time edy after Doctor AGF recommended me here few months ago (Thanks Doc. They also have that free-flow hot drinks for you there..)

- I don't think they have updated my ECU/TCU as my car still the same
- Tried to have me installed the magnetrap, which i sternly refused
- They know of the exhaust bracket rust. They didn't have it cleaned with sand paper first. Instead they applied the black paint directly on top of it. A poor workmanship IMO
- Submit the car at 2.10PM, got the car back 6.00PM. Almost 4 hours. When collecting the car the SA explained that my car are in the list of Proton's call back to replace the power window. Changed all except for driver's side since they have run out of stock. Will call me again when they have it.

Just my 2 cents, if it is in P2 SC, after collecting the car key from the owner, then went for the initial checking of the car, the SA will come and inform u first that they will need to change the power window bla bla bla thus you will need to wait a bit longer... But here they kept it silent. I've been wondering what were they doing with my car during that time but got nobody to ask in the office! This one old habit need to be thrown down the toilet edy laa.. Haiyya..

BTW, still loving my car. After almost sharp 6 months of using it, latest full tank (yesterday) still 754km can go. Used to have 8.6l/100km when being driven in Terengganu but after 3 months in KL it just went up to 10.00l/100km thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 07:22 AM)
assume its because the new tcu is still learning ur driving style gua...
but mine (with firestorm), the pickup and rpm stable only...

never drive without firestorm for long period except 30-40 minutes after applying new tcu/ecu last friday...

i did try top speed on tuesday, nothing to do that night, then got one of my fren ajak me go lepak2, then i ajak him go try top speed from juru toll to taiping utara...
0-160 no problem at all...seems like it only takes 10-15 seconds to reach 160....but to reach 200 from 185, abit hard, some more traffic...but i manage to get 190 though...


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what is ur current fc?
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Pickup and RPM stable are stable, but not the top end performance. I never feel struggle to accelerate a Preve from 110km/h to 150km/h, and that's on a flat surface.


FC equally bad still.
13l/100km for city driving.

Still too early to judge the ECU/TCU mapping performance, its not even first tank after the remap, as I dun trust the average fuel consumption on the SID, will only use fuelly stat.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 09:54 AM)
Pickup and RPM stable are stable, but not the top end performance. I never feel struggle to accelerate a Preve from 110km/h to 150km/h, and that's on a flat surface.
FC equally bad still.
13l/100km for city driving.

Still too early to judge the ECU/TCU mapping performance, its not even first tank after the remap, as I dun trust the average fuel consumption on the SID, will only use fuelly stat.
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bro, "Had bad experience with Preve on the highway, the car hardly above to accelerate from 110km/h up to 150km/h...."

which one is correct? rclxub.gif
is it u saying hardly accelerate from 110-150 when uphill?


Added on November 16, 2012, 10:09 am
QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 09:15 AM)
Good morning to all Previans..still enjoying the holiday .. biggrin.gif

anyone tried sitting at the back of preve, moving along those taman uneven road...

notice the rattling noise on the speaker dashboard and the noise from outside is really annoying!! it is totally diff when sitting infront as the driver..

Preve need some improvement on the noise level inside the car if it wish to be a global car.....there are some other minor things not right about the car but I would just brush it aside since it is not much of a problem..ex: the front passenger door need to close harder than the rest, the boot of the car is not properly fit (a bit slanting, notice during my first wash on the car, was admiring the backside when I notice it  doh.gif  ), 'krik krik krik' sound inside the car (still figuring out where the sound come from)..
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my frens and my families complain at the back of preve very bumpy...compare to my brother's vios...

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 16 2012, 09:54 AM)

- Tried to have me installed the magnetrap, which i sternly refused

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 16 2012, 09:54 AM)
Good Morning Fellow Preveians! thumbup.gif

Haapy Flying Friday Btw. rclxm9.gif So busy the whole week and now V16 edy. Congrats Marquis, the new TS!

Love all the sarcasm guys. laugh.gif  Cannot stand from laughing alone in my office.

Heard a lot of good feedback from u guys who has done the ECU/TCU remap. Other than Allen's who's managed to drive the car on a long range trip where the top speed is capped at 150-160 only. Well that's one thing is what mak me stop & think again whether should I update it or not. But like Maverick said, his FC is already good but when he drove kiapreve's car the diff is there, damn it's so tempting..

Anyhow, quick update, done 3rd service (10k) at Semambu's Proton SC (cost RM210). Been here 2nd time edy after Doctor AGF recommended me here few months ago (Thanks Doc. They also have that free-flow hot drinks for you there..)

- I don't think they have updated my ECU/TCU as my car still the same
- Tried to have me installed the magnetrap, which i sternly refused
- They know of the exhaust bracket rust. They didn't have it cleaned with sand paper first. Instead they applied the black paint directly on top of it. A poor workmanship IMO
- Submit the car at 2.10PM, got the car back 6.00PM. Almost 4 hours. When collecting the car the SA explained that my car are in the list of Proton's call back to replace the power window. Changed all except for driver's side since they have run out of stock. Will call me again when they have it.

Just my 2 cents, if it is in P2 SC, after collecting the car key from the owner, then went for the initial checking of the car, the SA will come and inform u first that they will need to change the power window bla bla bla thus you will need to wait a bit longer... But here they kept it silent. I've been wondering what were they doing with my car during that time but got nobody to ask in the office! This one old habit need to be thrown down the toilet edy laa.. Haiyya..

BTW, still loving my car. After almost sharp 6 months of using it, latest full tank (yesterday) still 754km can go. Used to have 8.6l/100km when being driven in Terengganu but after 3 months in KL it just went up to 10.00l/100km thumbup.gif
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i also started to love it also, cause quite boring here when nothing to chat about...
well, so far only allen report the problem.
bro, do u able to go to the service area instead of sitting in waiting room?
its best to go to the service area...observe what they do...

add: allen and daniel teoh...

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my preve IAFM+ got very high ROAR sound when RPM 2500... is it normal?
already install soundproof at hood , but still got sound.
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my preve IAFM+ got very high ROAR sound when RPM 2500... is it normal?already install soundproof at hood , but still got sound.
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Just drive my cousin sister's CVT version and.... WOW, SUPER noisy! sad.gif Yes, I get the "ROAR" sound too but I don't think it was at any specific RPM. The moment I gun the accelerator, the car roars quite loudly and it feels like I'm dragging a 10-tonne truck on a winch behind the car. It this really normal? Or is it because I'm used to driving a manual? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(tanpanama @ Nov 16 2012, 10:25 AM)
my preve IAFM+ got very high ROAR sound when RPM 2500... is it normal?
already install soundproof at hood , but still got sound.
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Insulating your hood does little for the cabin soundproofing.

If you wanna prevent engine sound from entering your cabin, soundproof your firewall with good dampening material.
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How much is the magnetrap and what are the pros and cons?  blush.gif
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Well they quoted me RM60 for it. In term of pros & cons, got not so much of a comment since I'm noob in this matter as well. But it has been debated few thread's back about whether it will actually works or not. IMHO, I'll wait a bit more until let say 20k then maybe I'll add it.

QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:12 AM)
i also started to love it also, cause quite boring here when nothing to chat about...
well, so far only allen report the problem.
bro, do u able to go to the service area instead of sitting in waiting room?
its best to go to the service area...observe what they do...
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Hahaha.. LOL! U say u will be MIA too but instead I saw u're here chatting with these guys. Aren't u supposed to be next TS? icon_idea.gif

I think can but saw none of the customer went there so I decided not to go. I wish I did though. The waiting area is kinda comfy at least for me but u got no visibility of the outside. BTW, got an experience with PJ Volcar (I believe its PE SC) in Seapark, PJ where the waiting room is at the centre of the service bay. I mean u'll need to walk through the service bay before u can enter into the waiting room. The mechanic there seems like doesn't even know about the ECU/TCU remap but instead kep on telling me to have the car serviced despite my ODO is just 9468 at that time.. If I got my car serviced there I may be able to ask them something.
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 16 2012, 10:32 AM)
Well they quoted me RM60 for it. In term of pros & cons, got not so much of a comment since I'm noob in this matter as well. But it has been debated few thread's back about whether it will actually works or not. IMHO, I'll wait a bit more until let say 20k then maybe I'll add it.
Hahaha.. LOL! U say u will be MIA too but instead I saw u're here chatting with these guys. Aren't u supposed to be next TS? icon_idea.gif

I think can but saw none of the customer went there so I decided not to go. I wish I did though. The waiting area is kinda comfy at least for me but u got no visibility of the outside. BTW, got an experience with PJ Volcar (I believe its PE SC) in Seapark, PJ where the waiting room is at the centre of the service bay. I mean u'll need to walk through the service bay before u can enter into the waiting room. The mechanic there seems like doesn't even know about the ECU/TCU remap but instead kep on telling me to have the car serviced despite my ODO is just 9468 at that time.. If I got my car serviced there I may be able to ask them something.
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in my opinion, SA wont know anything/any update unless the technican told them...cause those SA not involve in repairing cars...
when i goto eon sungai pinang, those technicians seems like they know what i want to do there ady...
probably famous among them that "this fat guy always know about the internal buletin that havent release out to customer yet"
this i have to thank allen... rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:36 AM)
saja tak mau jadi TS.... tongue.gif  cool2.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

in my opinion, SA wont know anything/any update unless the technican told them...cause those SA not involve in repairing cars...
when i goto eon sungai pinang, those technicians seems like they know what i want to do there ady...
probably famous among them that "this fat guy always know about the internal buletin that havent release out to customer yet"
this i have to thank allen... rclxm9.gif
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Damn... sweat.gif Wei, u're a state rep. U should've shown a good example to the rest of us here laa.. LOL! tongue.gif See Allen here? He did his part. When will u do yours..? icon_idea.gif

LOL! I'm still playing the Mr.Nice Guy. If the correct time come, that Service Bulletin would be my ace up in my sleeve.. Hehehe

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Damn... sweat.gif Wei, u're a state rep. U should've shown a good example to the rest of us here laa.. LOL! tongue.gif See Allen here? He did his part. When will u do yours..?  icon_idea.gif

LOL! I'm still playing the Mr.Nice Guy. If the correct time come, that Service Bulletin would be my ace up in my sleeve.. Hehehe

Oh and yes, thank you allen!
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i ady countlessly bump my post in prevoc fb about the northen region tt and members' location...and less than 200 replied, as Jerie said, only that estimated amount of members are active member...
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Don't be sad laa Arthur. Just trolling u only.. tongue.gif

I still haven't had the chance to check out FB though. Good job to all of u who has done your part in contributing to this community. I personally appereciate all of ur time & efforts! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:08 AM)
my frens and my families complain at the back of preve very bumpy...compare to my brother's vios...
yup, bumpy and noisy if compare with Vios....noise coming in from the doors and also from the boot area..need to DIY sound proof.. brows.gif


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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 16 2012, 10:31 AM)
Just drive my cousin sister's CVT version and.... WOW, SUPER noisy! sad.gif Yes, I get the "ROAR" sound too but I don't think it was at any specific RPM. The moment I gun the accelerator, the car roars quite loudly and it feels like I'm dragging a 10-tonne truck on a winch behind the car. It this really normal? Or is it because I'm used to driving a manual? unsure.gif
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my remedy for the 'ROAR' sound...be gentle with your accelerator ..never go beyond 2k rpm during move from stop position .. laugh.gif
and yes, it is like dragging a 10 tonne truck ... the only good thing is when I am driving, the noise can be overcome by turning on the radio loud, the dragging part, well, just treat it as drive slow and steady biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:10 AM)
yup, bumpy and noisy..noise coming in from the doors and also from  the boot area..need to DIY sound proof..  brows.gif


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my remedy for the 'ROAR' sound...be gentle with your accelerator ..never go beyond 2k rpm during move from stop position ..  laugh.gif
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ady did diy soundproof...for now my family only complains about noise from tyre, the fender there....for cabin noise, they can sleep soundly if i drive slow and on flat road... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:10 AM)
my remedy for the 'ROAR' sound...be gentle with your accelerator ..never go beyond 2k rpm during move from stop position ..  laugh.gif
and yes, it is like dragging a 10 tonne truck ... the only good thing is when I am driving, the noise can be overcome by turning on the radio loud, the dragging part, well, just treat it as drive slow and steady biggrin.gif
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Good advice - thanks thumbup.gif I'll tell her that tongue.gif
But she's going to go to Proton SC anyway - see what they do biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:16 AM)
ady did diy soundproof...for now my family only complains about noise from tyre, the fender there....for cabin noise, they can sleep soundly if i drive slow and on flat road... thumbup.gif
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what did you use for the DIY soundproof? Insuflex or Superlon? Try this for the fender noise smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...24324&hl=fender

OR this

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...40358&hl=fender
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:16 AM)
ady did diy soundproof...for now my family only complains about noise from tyre, the fender there....for cabin noise, they can sleep soundly if i drive slow and on flat road... thumbup.gif
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you even do on the doors and hood? I put rubber on my 4 doors already make it very hard to close.
Still finding any good place that offers soundproofing in penang.

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Good advice - thanks thumbup.gif I'll tell her that tongue.gif
But she's going to go to Proton SC anyway - see what they do biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 10:36 AM)
saja tak mau jadi TS.... tongue.gif  cool2.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

in my opinion, SA wont know anything/any update unless the technican told them...cause those SA not involve in repairing cars...
when i goto eon sungai pinang, those technicians seems like they know what i want to do there ady...
probably famous among them that "this fat guy always know about the internal buletin that havent release out to customer yet"
this i have to thank allen... rclxm9.gif
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Actually the correct procedure is, whoever read and receive the email, will print out and show everyone. Brief technician and SA.


For my previous post, it was typo. I struggle to accelerate from 110km to 150km/h, flat surface. The engine roar like mad, like Vios....sigh
Perhaps my car still very much virgin if with 4k mileage, since all the 4k are done within city. Hardly speed above 120km/h



Hey guys, tried the engine mounting mod with fuel line. Effective DIY mod, cheap and easy.

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:29 AM)
what did you use for the DIY soundproof? Insuflex or Superlon? Try this for the fender noise smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...24324&hl=fender

OR this

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...40358&hl=fender
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no no, i only put on doors....that's y i said my family complains about noise from tyre...


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you even do on the doors and hood? I put rubber on my 4 doors already make it very hard to close.
Still finding any good place that offers soundproofing in penang.
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Actually the correct procedure is, whoever read and receive the email, will print out and show everyone. Brief technician and SA.
For my previous post, it was typo. I struggle to accelerate from 110km to 150km/h, flat surface. The engine roar like mad, like Vios....sigh
Perhaps my car still very much virgin if with 4k mileage, since all the 4k are done within city. Hardly speed above 120km/h
Hey guys, tried the engine mounting mod with fuel line. Effective DIY mod, cheap and easy.
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4k mileage only.....hmm....cannot comment much...see after few full tanks the problem still there or not...

the engine mounting...not really knw how to do....just glance thru ystdy...

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on iafm+ cvt, the engine roar coz the cvt is trying to match the engine speed rpm with the ratio, compare to manual where its already fixed. Until it reach the most suitable ratio@the highest, the roar will continue n slowly fade when it match the ratio. Pressing it gradually, make it easy to cvt to match the ratio with the engine speed (rpm) will help. But when need power, then u will hear the roar. But can used stepped auto mode@sat, the roar will reduce, but cvt whining still there. So, golden hawk, if ur sis want lesser roar, used sat then. But if not really good in cntrol the throttle, fc will be effected too. Depend which is suit for ur sis.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 16 2012, 02:37 PM)
on iafm+ cvt, the engine roar coz the cvt is trying to match the engine speed rpm with the ratio, compare to manual where its already fixed. Until it reach the most suitable ratio@the highest, the roar will continue  n slowly fade when it match the ratio. Pressing it gradually, make it easy to cvt to match the ratio with the engine speed (rpm) will help. But when need power, then u will hear the roar. But can used stepped auto mode@sat, the roar will reduce, but cvt whining still there. So, golden hawk, if ur sis want lesser roar, used sat then. But if not really good in cntrol the throttle, fc will be effected too. Depend which is suit for ur sis.
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Thanks for the comments Abg. mat79 smile.gif I'll convey the message accordingly biggrin.gif

BTW, another question to CVT owners - does the gear console have lights? Realized hers wasn't illuminated even in pitch-dark conditions unsure.gif
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Made appointment tmr for ECU and TCU update at EON sg pinang rclxm9.gif

edit: I wonder when I am official member in prevoc.org? Can't wait for a moderator to approve.

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Made appointment tmr for ECU and TCU update at EON sg pinang  rclxm9.gif
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Keep us posted dude! thumbup.gif Good luck!
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Thanks for the comments Abg. mat79 smile.gif I'll convey the message accordingly biggrin.gif

BTW, another question to CVT owners - does the gear console have lights? Realized hers wasn't illuminated even in pitch-dark conditions unsure.gif
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My CVT xde light at the gear console....but I really prefer that there is light at the gear console..why why why Proton make CVT Exec no light?? mad.gif

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 16 2012, 04:40 PM)
My CVT xde light at the gear console....but I really prefer that there is light at the gear console..why why why Proton make CVT Exec no light??  mad.gif
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Eh? Memang camtue ke? Can anyone else confirm? unsure.gif
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Eh? Memang camtue ke? Can anyone else confirm? unsure.gif
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hello all

i've been a silent reader for awhile and just registered. well i received my car last month, and tomorrow going for 1st service already (although mileage sudah lebih 1k, aiya)

my short review after one month of my 'Stealth Fighter' so far:

Model: CFE
Color: Tranquility Black


Driving experience: I use it to commute to work (shah alam - bandar sunway) and the occasional trips to KL of course, and so far I've been enjoying the drive. Received the car with no major problems or issues or defects. Had a good sales rep handle my deal too. I really love the ride and handling, which I think is superb for a locally made model.

And the looks too! My black CFE really looks sleek and smooth (thats why I call it Stealth Fighter hahaha). The mid-range pickup is great for overtaking, and cruising at 110 - 120 on the highway has shown me a car that is stable and responsive.

Bad points are few, mainly that my car has that laggy throttle you guys have been talking about (hope to get that sorted tomorrow), and the low speed ride is jerky (is this a gearbox issue?) as in sangkut-sangkut below 20km/h (especially in parking lots). Windows also mist up if the weather has been rainy, and rear visibility is so-so. And whyyy is there a blank switch for the top spec model?

Oh and I'm currently getting about 10.3L/100KM, but i hope that gets better in time.

Overall, I rate my car an 8/10 smile.gif

So in short:

PROS: looks, ride and handling, performance above 2000rpm, high-speed stability, comfort, good audio and okay sat-nav
CONS: low speed ride, laggy throttle (fixable, hopefully!), not-so-stellar fuel consumption, mediocre rear-visibility


I've attached a photo of my Stealth Fighter wink.gif




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edwans, low speed sluggish is normal. DSG/Wet Clutch CVT, common issues. You are not alone.

Its a heavy car, perhaps after 5000km service, things will get better. I'm getting 13l/100km for full city driving.....
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 10:22 PM)
edwans, low speed sluggish is normal. DSG/Wet Clutch CVT, common issues. You are not alone.

Its a heavy car, perhaps after 5000km service, things will get better. I'm getting 13l/100km for full city driving.....
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yeah? so will it smooth out after first service? i mean, i'm not too bothered with it lah, just sometimes quite noticeable -____-"

i wonder if anyone actually got close enough to Protons 6.6L quote? hahaha. i tak kira how many KM i actually get though, but so far i can isi minyak ngam-ngam every 6 days. that's pretty okay for me, lebih kurang my MyVi saja dulu.
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QUOTE(edwans @ Nov 16 2012, 10:29 PM)
yeah? so will it smooth out after first service? i mean, i'm not too bothered with it lah, just sometimes quite noticeable -____-"

i wonder if anyone actually got close enough to Protons 6.6L quote? hahaha. i tak kira how many KM i actually get though, but so far i can isi minyak ngam-ngam every 6 days. that's pretty okay for me, lebih kurang my MyVi saja dulu.
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My best is 7.2L/100KM only sad.gif
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QUOTE(edwans @ Nov 16 2012, 10:16 PM)
hello all

i've been a silent reader for awhile and just registered. well i received my car last month, and tomorrow going for 1st service already (although mileage sudah lebih 1k, aiya)

my short review after one month of my 'Stealth Fighter' so far:

Model: CFE
Color: Tranquility Black


Driving experience: I use it to commute to work (shah alam - bandar sunway) and the occasional trips to KL of course, and so far I've been enjoying the drive. Received the car with no major problems or issues or defects. Had a good sales rep handle my deal too. I really love the ride and handling, which I think is superb for a locally made model.

And the looks too! My black CFE really looks sleek and smooth (thats why I call it Stealth Fighter hahaha). The mid-range pickup is great for overtaking, and cruising at 110 - 120 on the highway has shown me a car that is stable and responsive.

Bad points are few, mainly that my car has that laggy throttle you guys have been talking about (hope to get that sorted tomorrow), and the low speed ride is jerky (is this a gearbox issue?) as in sangkut-sangkut below 20km/h (especially in parking lots). Windows also mist up if the weather has been rainy, and rear visibility is so-so. And whyyy is there a blank switch for the top spec model?

Oh and I'm currently getting about 10.3L/100KM, but i hope that gets better in time.

Overall, I rate my car an 8/10 smile.gif

So in short:

PROS: looks, ride and handling, performance above 2000rpm, high-speed stability, comfort, good audio and okay sat-nav
CONS: low speed ride, laggy throttle (fixable, hopefully!), not-so-stellar fuel consumption, mediocre rear-visibility


I've attached a photo of my Stealth Fighter wink.gif
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Err...you didn't censor car plate, not so stealth liao  sweat.gif
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that's what proton said, but of course, difficult to get in real world settings. yours seem excellent though; 7.2L/100KM, how did you manage?

hope after servicing and a few more months i can get mine down to your FC.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 10:22 PM)
edwans, low speed sluggish is normal. DSG/Wet Clutch CVT, common issues. You are not alone.

Its a heavy car, perhaps after 5000km service, things will get better. I'm getting 13l/100km for full city driving.....
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Any moderators who can check my membership registration in prevoc email? can't waited to be official member rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(edwans @ Nov 16 2012, 11:07 PM)
ahahhaa my bad tongue.gif stealth fighter in looks only lah then  whistling.gif


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that's what proton said, but of course, difficult to get in real world settings. yours seem excellent though; 7.2L/100KM, how did you manage?

hope after servicing and a few more months i can get mine down to your FC.
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welcome the stealth fighter.. thumbup.gif

the best fc i get is 6.9l/100km
90% highway...110km/h average...no sudden acc,slow overtake,no pedal hard..just all the way smooth drive with D,i will sure u will get it for6.6l/100km
but driving like this just bored yawn.gif never driving like this again...
now...highway?130-180km/h all d way biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 16 2012, 11:26 PM)
Your full city include hills? Mine with old ecu/tcu travels hill everyday with 11.7L/100km. Not sure after ecu/tcu update.

Any moderators who can check my membership registration in prevoc email? can't waited to be official member  rclxms.gif
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My mileage still very low, around 4k.
Hills? not really. Involves all sort of short distance travel, hardly a trip more than 5km.
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Our 'beloved' TS is in-charge of the membership...
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Now at EOn sg pinang for ecu tcu update. Hopefully the technician wont noob like SA by flashing old ecu tcu.
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Actually the correct procedure is, whoever read and receive the email, will print out and show everyone. Brief technician and SA.
For my previous post, it was typo. I struggle to accelerate from 110km to 150km/h, flat surface. The engine roar like mad, like Vios....sigh
Perhaps my car still very much virgin if with 4k mileage, since all the 4k are done within city. Hardly speed above 120km/h
Hey guys, tried the engine mounting mod with fuel line. Effective DIY mod, cheap and easy.
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Bro...the engine mounting mod with fuel line mod u mention.Mind to further elaborate on this mythical mod that is cheap and easy?
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Done ECU update.. Now tcu...cnt wait... And yes its typo. 1.6 sagaflx
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Done ECU update.. Now tcu...cnt wait... And yes its typo. 1.6 sagaflx
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 16 2012, 12:25 PM)
Actually the correct procedure is, whoever read and receive the email, will print out and show everyone. Brief technician and SA.
For my previous post, it was typo. I struggle to accelerate from 110km to 150km/h, flat surface. The engine roar like mad, like Vios....sigh
Perhaps my car still very much virgin if with 4k mileage, since all the 4k are done within city. Hardly speed above 120km/h
Hey guys, tried the engine mounting mod with fuel line. Effective DIY mod, cheap and easy.
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metaled and ben3003,

Please refer to this guide below.

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Credit to Lim Eu Bian for preparing the slides.
This mount can be done to many cars, as long as you can slip the fuel inside in between the gap. thumbup.gif



Do check Prevoc.Org and Prevoc Facebook Group for the latest updates.

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 07:22 AM)
assume its because the new tcu is still learning ur driving style gua...
but mine (with firestorm), the pickup and rpm stable only...

never drive without firestorm for long period except 30-40 minutes after applying new tcu/ecu last friday...

i did try top speed on tuesday, nothing to do that night, then got one of my fren ajak me go lepak2, then i ajak him go try top speed from juru toll to taiping utara...
0-160 no problem at all...seems like it only takes 10-15 seconds to reach 160....but to reach 200 from 185, abit hard, some more traffic...but i manage to get 190 though...


Added on November 16, 2012, 7:23 am
what is ur current fc?
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Bro Arthur, regarding the software learning our driving style, I'm quite confused about this. rclxub.gif

Logically and theoretically, TCU learning driving style should happen in minutes, but not take days or weeks. I say this because if a family car that shares between family members, some of them drive gently, some heavy foot, so which style the software should adapt to?

From what my friend who was a Peugeot salesman told me last time (knowledge from their training), the system adapt to the driver's driving style and decide when to shift gear (or shift ratio in CVT), this happened within minutes we start driving the car. Whenever we stop the engine, removed the key, the software will revert back to normal (default) setting on the next engine start. This sound more logical to me, what is the point if the car took so long (days or weeks) to learn a driver's driving style? Adapting individual style for optimal shift pattern should be better than took days or weeks to sum up all the drivers' style and give average shift pattern right?


QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 16 2012, 11:16 AM)
ady did diy soundproof...for now my family only complains about noise from tyre, the fender there....for cabin noise, they can sleep soundly if i drive slow and on flat road... thumbup.gif
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I am ok with the engine and CVT sound, maybe I seldom do rush-driving. My main complain about "noise" is the tyre noise, extremely annoying. Not sure if the original tyres too noisy or and sound proof not so good?
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their head technician update ecu and tcu for me. After update, the initial power really great. I straight go highway and test, press metal awhile already 100km/h.
But I can feel the jerk little bit although reduced alot. climb hill is a piece of cake. I can feel turbo kicks in at 1.8 rpm already.
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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Nov 17 2012, 01:27 PM)
Bro Arthur, regarding the software learning our driving style, I'm quite confused about this.  rclxub.gif

Logically and theoretically, TCU learning driving style should happen in minutes, but not take days or weeks. I say this because if a family car that shares between family members, some of them drive gently, some heavy foot, so which style the software should adapt to?

From what my friend who was a Peugeot salesman told me last time (knowledge from their training), the system adapt to the driver's driving style and decide when to shift gear (or shift ratio in CVT), this happened within minutes we start driving the car. Whenever we stop the engine, removed the key, the software will revert back to normal (default) setting on the next engine start. This sound more logical to me, what is the point if the car took so long (days or weeks) to learn a driver's driving style? Adapting individual style for optimal shift pattern should be better than took days or weeks to sum up all the drivers' style and give average shift pattern right?
I am ok with the engine and CVT sound, maybe I seldom do rush-driving. My main complain about "noise" is the tyre noise, extremely annoying. Not sure if the original tyres too noisy or and sound proof not so good?
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sound proof not good la...every car comes out from factory sound proof not that good...


Added on November 17, 2012, 4:36 pm
QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 17 2012, 01:42 PM)
their head technician update ecu and tcu for me. After update, the initial power really great. I straight go highway and test, press metal awhile already 100km/h.
But I can feel the jerk little bit although reduced alot. climb hill is a piece of cake. I can feel turbo kicks in at 1.8 rpm already.
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feedback after u drive more than a week, there are minor changes that make u feel weird...
i'm not saying anything unless others state it out...could be just my car only...

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on tcu n ecu adaptive programme, it will learn through out ur driving to set the most balance between power n fc. Of course, it can change anytime when u change ur driving style, but that is depend on ur throttle input n etc. But the key word is the balance. All the adaptive pattern is save in the ecu n tcu rom. It wont reset if turn off the key coz it will save it. For ur daily driving alone, the ecu n tcu will recognize ur driving pattern n try to give u the best balance. But if somebody drive ur car n have diff driving pattern, it will be in free mode(without erasing previous data of course@reset),depend on input, load, condition n etc. Unless the other driver drive it for along time, then it will save another set of perimeter to suit the best. Thats why everybody wont get the same fc, even driving on the same route, n the response also diff to diff car n owner. If the owner is an agressive driver, it will suit itself to give the best efficient between power n fc.

Its hard to explain coz if driving manual, only ecu involve, shifting pattern is manual as the owner is the one slotting the gear. But this involve another set of ai which is tcu. While fix auto has fixed gear, not many alteration can be done through adaptive, but cvt is totally diff. Ratio is wide n stepless. It can jump@skip to any ratio depend on drivers need. Its a complex alogarithm.

Yup, u can talk to the malaysian pug technician, but u need to remeber, they only from the slide, they dont involve in the pwrtrain rnd. Not saying they are not good, but for any technician, they dont need some deep info@knowledge coz they r train to do service, repair n update as instructed, not doing the mechanical development or software elements.

There's diff between engineer n technician. Engineer may not capable to service ur car, but they know their specific related field such as software engineer. But tech can service ur car, but they dont know how to do programming.

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This morning after they updated my ecu and tcu I saw they reset the TCU adaptive. Is it they are removing the memory of my driving pattern?
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i think, the best way is to compare microsoft software engineer who develop wondows n those developer who creating another software@games based on windows programming n also those who called computer technician who repair the pc problems like reformatting n etc.
Any comp technician can repair pc problems, but they dont know to do programming. While developer, they do programming, based on windows code supply by original software developer that is microsoft. N the code is create by microsoft engineer.

Same as ecu n tcu. Original source@code is create by conti n punch. Prtn engineer is creating their own database based on conti n punch coding, n to integrate the database, they need to consult with the original provider. N technician, of course, only implementing that has been design.

Everybody has their own work to do. The diff between oem racing development such r3 n other street tuners is that some of the r3 members are engineers, some are technicians.

While the street tuners searching for most out right power coz for them bigger is better, but for oem tuners such r3, the key word is balance with precise calculation using engineering knowledge. The can build engine from scratch, but tuners, just used ready made parts n engine. Mix n match.

The most powerfull car dont win u a race, but the most balance car will.


Added on November 17, 2012, 7:15 pmone has to reset@erase the tcu n ecu to reflash the new one n of course, previous memory is erase coz it will not suit with new perimeters set. But dont worry, it will learn back.


Added on November 17, 2012, 7:21 pmand its not the turbo kick is at 1.8k rpm, but the torque is release more compare to the previous one which involve torque reduction. Thats why u feel its more powerfull. At 1.8k rpm, its already generate torque surpass 1.8L car generate at max torque which normally at beyond 4k rpm :-). I already explain the initial strategies why torque reduction is needed in cvt below 1.6krpm oppose to manual. while the manual, even with dbw lag, but the torque no need to supress. U can feel the vast torque generated even at 1.5k rpm. Hopefully drb wont cut the manual for cfe on the hatch project.


Added on November 17, 2012, 7:43 pmI read a lot of people comparing preve cfe with vios when performance being a debate.

I think to demonstrate performance, it better to compare vios with flx se coz interm of weight, nearly the same n iinm, flx se is heavier by a small margin, but the poweroutput n torque, not much diff if calculate hp pertonne even torque pertonne, n both in auto form, vios conv auto, flx se cvt.

During take off n overtake from 40kmh- 80kmh.

Feed both car throttle at 2k rpm at max. For vios means, every gear shift is at max 2k rpm from 1st gear to 4th gear. While flx se just maintain 2k rpm throttle, n look at the speedo meter at both car(not but-o-meter). The question are, which one is achieving 0-80kmh faster, n which one allow u to overtake comfortably from 40-80kmh where 2k rpm max rules apply? Is it vios will pawn flx se badly or another way around?

Now, change the rules, 4k rpm max. Now drive both car at max 4k rpm, with vios every shift is at 4k rpm, while flx se just rev up to 4k rpm.

During take off n during overtake 40-100kmh.

Will vios pawn flx se badly or miracle things happen when 'rubbish car' will do agaisnt the odd?

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Nice explanation mat79, thanks. Learnt alot from you.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 17 2012, 12:40 PM)
metaled and ben3003,

Please refer to this guide below.

Preve Engine Mounting Mod

Credit to Lim Eu Bian for preparing the slides.
This mount can be done to many cars, as long as you can slip the fuel inside in between the gap.  thumbup.gif
Do check Prevoc.Org and Prevoc Facebook Group for the latest updates.
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so does this ecu update is officially announced by proton edar? and can it be done at any proton edar service centre? im from melaka and has anyone hear update their ecu here?
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 17 2012, 06:59 PM)

on tcu n ecu adaptive programme, it will learn through out ur driving to set the most balance between power n fc. Of course, it can change anytime when u change ur driving style, but that is depend on ur throttle input n etc. But the key word is the balance. All the adaptive pattern is save in the ecu n tcu rom. It wont reset if turn off the key coz it will save it. For ur daily driving alone, the ecu n tcu will recognize ur driving pattern n try to give u the best balance. But if somebody drive ur car n have diff driving pattern, it will be in free mode(without erasing previous data of course@reset),depend on input, load, condition n etc. Unless the other driver drive it for along time, then it will save another set of perimeter to suit the best. Thats why everybody wont get the same fc, even driving on the same route, n the response also diff to diff car n owner. If the owner is an agressive driver, it will suit itself to give the best efficient between power n fc.

Its hard to explain coz if driving manual, only ecu involve, shifting pattern is manual as the owner is the one slotting the gear. But this involve another set of ai which is tcu. While fix auto has fixed gear, not many alteration can be done through adaptive, but cvt is totally diff. Ratio is wide n stepless. It can jump@skip to any ratio depend on drivers need. Its a complex alogarithm.

Yup, u can talk to the malaysian pug technician, but u need to remeber, they only from the slide, they dont involve in the pwrtrain rnd. Not saying they are not good, but for any technician, they dont need some deep info@knowledge coz they r train to do service, repair n update as instructed, not doing the mechanical development or software elements.

There's diff between engineer n technician. Engineer may not capable to service ur car, but they know their specific related field such as software engineer. But tech can service ur car, but they dont know how to do programming.
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Thanks for your detailed explain, mat79, I learn a lot from you! This is exactly what I want to know. notworthy.gif
Nope, I'm not talking to Peugeot technician, even worse, it's a salesman that told me this.
If you said some technician / engineer don't know something not on their field, I believe a salesman even know the least. laugh.gif
It's just without knowledge in all these, I just find his story make more sense... until you told us all the detail, now I know it can actually work quite intelligently. rclxms.gif


QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 17 2012, 07:13 PM)

i think, the best way is to compare microsoft software engineer who develop wondows n those developer who creating another software@games based on windows programming n also those who called computer technician who repair the pc problems like reformatting n etc.
Any comp technician can repair pc problems, but they dont know to do programming. While developer, they do programming, based on windows code supply by original software developer that is microsoft. N the code is create by microsoft engineer.

Same as ecu n tcu. Original source@code is create by conti n punch. Prtn engineer is creating their own database based on conti n punch coding, n to integrate the database, they need to consult with the original provider. N technician, of course, only implementing that has been design.

Everybody has their own work to do. The diff between oem racing development such r3 n other street tuners is that some of the r3 members are engineers, some are technicians.

While the street tuners searching for most out right power coz for them bigger is better, but for oem tuners such r3, the key word is balance with precise calculation using engineering knowledge. The can build engine from scratch, but tuners, just used ready made parts n engine. Mix n match.

The most powerfull car dont win u a race, but the most balance car will.
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Nov 17 2012, 11:55 PM)
so does this ecu update is officially announced by proton edar? and can it be done at any proton edar service centre? im from melaka and has anyone hear update their ecu here?
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Nov 17 2012, 06:59 PM)
on tcu n ecu adaptive programme, it will learn through out ur driving to set the most balance between power n fc. Of course, it can change anytime when u change ur driving style, but that is depend on ur throttle input n etc. But the key word is the balance. All the adaptive pattern is save in the ecu n tcu rom. It wont reset if turn off the key coz it will save it. For ur daily driving alone, the ecu n tcu will recognize ur driving pattern n try to give u the best balance. But if somebody drive ur car n have diff driving pattern, it will be in free mode(without erasing previous data of course@reset),depend on input, load, condition n etc. Unless the other driver drive it for along time, then it will save another set of perimeter to suit the best. Thats why everybody wont get the same fc, even driving on the same route, n the response also diff to diff car n owner. If the owner is an agressive driver, it will suit itself to give the best efficient between power n fc.

Its hard to explain coz if driving manual, only ecu involve, shifting pattern is manual as the owner is the one slotting the gear. But this involve another set of ai which is tcu. While fix auto has fixed gear, not many alteration can be done through adaptive, but cvt is totally diff. Ratio is wide n stepless. It can jump@skip to any ratio depend on drivers need. Its a complex alogarithm.

Yup, u can talk to the malaysian pug technician, but u need to remeber, they only from the slide, they dont involve in the pwrtrain rnd. Not saying they are not good, but for any technician, they dont need some deep info@knowledge coz they r train to do service, repair n update as instructed, not doing the mechanical development or software elements.

There's diff between engineer n technician. Engineer may not capable to service ur car, but they know their specific related field such as software engineer. But tech can service ur car, but they dont know how to do programming.
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Does Proton engineer database have info on getting Preve going up Genting during bad jam conditions?
ANS: No Peve can go up to Genting under this condiotns?


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Does Proton engineer database have info on getting Preve going up Genting during bad jam conditions?
ANS: No Peve can go up to Genting under this condiotns?
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Read the first post of this thread. It's possible to go up genting even under drastic condition.

Just have to know when to engage or not to engage any gears. Common for most cvt gearbox, not just preve
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Just change my trye to Good Year Effecient Grip for RM950.00 including alignment n balancing n after trade, is it a good deal. initially dont think of changing but my tyre wobble after 110km speed, send for alignment but was told its the tyre problem n not alignment. Will give some review later.
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Just curious, any of you guys had flash Papago or Garmin into the CFE's lokatoo HU ? Looks doable.
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When is the face lift coming out and do we know what the face lift features are?
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When is the face lift coming out and do we know what the face lift features are?
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Can I learn more about bodykits?

I heard so far only Airmaster is the official brand.

What about the others? What's wrong with them?

Is it worth it to put it on?


Added on November 18, 2012, 7:07 pmBooked a Jazz Hybrid.
Re-test drove the Preve CFE and decided Preve is value for money and may get a Preve instead.
It is spacious inside. Interior looks classy (although quality is lacking). But comes full specs with sensors, gps, paddle shift, etc.
Driving still feels a little plastic and cabin a little noisy.
Jazz Hybrid of course, smoother, but RM20+k more.
I only drive in KL with the RARE occasion of driving out of state, I pump petrol once a month. Max twice a monh.
So say over 5 years * 12 months = 60 * RM120 (full tank) = RM7,200
Savings of RM12+k that can be used for service and fixing the car.
Sure Preve won't save the environment but Jazz Hybrid also won't save that much petrol.
So Preve is a value buy. My family, prejudiced at first, against the Preve 'cos it's Proton went to see the car with me today, and changed their perception and agreed the Preve was a good and value for money car.

My only thing was, with the test drive, although powerful and ECU updated, still didn't have a very smooth drive. Felt a little plastic. Plus, steering felt heavy compared to Jazz Hybrid.

So question - is there a big difference between Premium and Executive driving?

I tried the Saga FLX and it was horrible - no power steering. And engine didn't feel powerful. I heard same engine as Preve Executive.

Your help is much appreciated.

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Go for the Preve Premium

The Preve Exec is totally a strip down version of the CFE..they even remove the bonnet insulation for the Preve Exec, I can't believe that!

Even though I would Preve is a nice car to drive but I feel that the Exec version is a dumb decision I made....many minor things have been remove..

And most of the car dealers do not have the test drive unit for the Preve Exec, so many buyers do not know the exact condition of the Exec CVT model..

The noise level in the Preve Exec CVT is terrible, reading the Paul Tan review on the Preve is definitely the wrong choice, they were testing a CFE test unit, which might have been different from the actual mass production units..
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Thank you, Ryuken74 for your feedback. Is your Exec an Auto?

I saw some include a reverse camera - do they attach this to the GPS unit (in the Preve Premium) or is it a separate and new device altogether?
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 18 2012, 01:06 PM)
Just change my trye to Good Year Effecient Grip for RM950.00 including alignment n balancing n after trade, is it a good deal. initially dont think of changing but my tyre wobble after 110km speed, send for alignment but was told its the tyre problem n not alignment. Will give some review later.
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Bro..can share which tyre shop ?
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 18 2012, 11:20 PM)
Thank you, Ryuken74 for your feedback. Is your Exec an Auto?

I saw some include a reverse camera - do they attach this to the GPS unit (in the Preve Premium) or is it a separate and new device altogether?
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separate device, the HU has no camera integration as far as i know. The SA i went to was selling auto dimming rear mirror + reverse camera(in the rear view mirror) as an addon for RM650.

although im certain we can get it cheaper if we look into accessory shops.
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 18 2012, 11:20 PM)
Thank you, Ryuken74 for your feedback. Is your Exec an Auto?

I saw some include a reverse camera - do they attach this to the GPS unit (in the Preve Premium) or is it a separate and new device altogether?
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u can install aftermarket reverse camera connect to the HU directly,no need extra device
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 18 2012, 06:29 PM)
I tried the Saga FLX and it was horrible - no power steering. And engine didn't feel powerful. I heard same engine as Preve Executive.
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lol wad. What no power steering? lolz.

it has power steering and it is a bit to the heavy side.

What is your previous car/the car you're driving currently?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 12:32 AM)
lol wad. What no power steering? lolz.

it has power steering and it is a bit to the heavy side.

What is your previous car/the car you're driving currently?
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Steering for Saga I had to use so much energy - my arms were tired just making a turn around the block.

I drive a Kelisa currently. LOVE IT! rclxm9.gif Compared to the Saga, it is so light.

The steering on the Preve Premium is lighter (thank goodness) but not as light as say, the Almera. Almera steering is like silk.


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u can install aftermarket reverse camera connect to the HU directly,no need extra device
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Cool - is it cheap to do so? Cheaper than buying a new unit at least - or having that cool rear view mirror thing.
The GPS unit on the Premium Preve is tiny - 4.5"? I like how the GPS when speaking directions has a local and neutral accent.


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separate device, the HU has no camera integration as far as i know.  The SA i went to was selling auto dimming rear mirror + reverse camera(in the rear view mirror) as an addon for RM650.

although im certain we can get it cheaper if we look into accessory shops.
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This is kind of cool - I think I saw it on the Sportage. I wonder which is more of a hassle - this or just replacing the gps unit. By attaching the reverse camera to the backside, do they drill and does this cause leakages or cracks?


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:09 amI would also opt for leather if I could but 'cos the airbags are built-in to the seats - is this normal, btw? First time I've heard it, tbh.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:13 amCan I watch DVD on the Premium Preve GPS unit?

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Not trying to bad mouth almera here, but can you actually feel where your car is going/turning during on straight road and also during cornering? I feel so disconnected from the car when I am test driving the Almera.

almost all Proton cars has weighted steering for a reason; it offers better feedback and instill confidence during cornering, part of it is to compliment the "Proton Ride & Handling".
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 01:17 AM)
Not trying to bad mouth almera here, but can you actually feel where your car is going/turning during on straight road and also during cornering? I feel so disconnected from the car when I am test driving the Almera.

almost all Proton cars has weighted steering for a reason; it offers better feedback and instill confidence during cornering, part of it is to compliment the "Proton Ride & Handling".
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Yeah except the Saga FLX I tested was really too much feedback and I had no confidence with the steering. I really wanted it to be great 'cos for that price and interior, it's worth it.No muscle to turn the steering wheel. Also, pressing on the accelerator and car would rev but wouldn't go that much faster.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:21 amAlmera was liquid steering - it gets better - when I first test drove it, I was like, "Wow... way too light! What's going on?" but on second test drive, I thought it had seasoned (the car that is) and steering was better.

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"too much feedback". laugh.gif

if you stomp on the accelerator and expect the car hits 100kmh in a blink of an eye, then sorry to say, you're not used to CVT characteristic yet. Eventually, you will find fault with the Preve as well unless your mindset adapts to how CVT works.
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When I accelerate I expect the car to move, the steering to feel good and the overall drive experience to be good. Not to over-exert myself like with the Saga. Why make it tiresome?

I do have and drive other cars in my house. All pretty balanced and comfortable to drive. With decent feedback when I accelerate and turn the steering wheel.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:34 am+ why are we getting into the technicalities of my driving? I didn't like the Saga FLX. Full stop. I didn't agree with the steering and how it drove and if that is how the Preve Executive drives like so, then that's bad.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:35 amAnd if comparing Saga FLX to Kelisa, I'd say, stick to Kelisa. The zippy-ness of the Kelisa is unparalleled.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:36 amNot to mention if having to compare Saga FLX to Myvi, I'd say get a Myvi. It's definitely a better experience. Just overall, less stress. The jammed roads are stress enough. One should at least have a relaxed ride. Like the Almera.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:40 amBut if you want a more powerful and enjoyable ride where you feel you're in control, then Preve Premium is good (can we make the steering wheel lighter?) I just feel like utilising the energy in the Preve all the time and since I don't do much highway driving, it would be wasted on me.

Jazz Hybrid is definitely smoother than the Preve Premium. Maybe due to the size of the car, eh?

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Well, both of us has different perception on "expectation", "feel good" and "decent feedback". Perhaps its due to the difference on how each of us look at cars and how the car behaves like according to our own preference.

Furthermore, when you have set your mind (and money) to get a Preve, why bother looking at other rubbish car like the Saga. Just get the Preve Premium which comes with almost all the bell and whistle. At least you don't need to fix the car everyday like Saga owners do and the chances of getting osteoporosis is significantly lower in the Preve than the Saga.

Another plus point is, the recent ECU remap helps significantly in city driving. biggrin.gif


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:43 amand no, the steering wheel cant get any lighter.

unless you rajin rajin terjun lubang and loosen up some parts of the steering and suspension parts.

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HAHAHAHA osteoperosis....wink.gif*thumbs* for that. HILARIOUS. I'm a shorty... doesn't matter -

Oh yes, another thing to love about the Preve- i can boost up the seat to maximum.

Do Saga owners actually have to fix their cars everyday? poor them!

Yes, the ECU update makes Preve Premium more responsive. When I first test drove the Preve, the lag disappointed me but today, it was much better.
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 01:32 AM)
When I accelerate I expect the car to move, the steering to feel good and the overall drive experience to be good. Not to over-exert myself like with the Saga. Why make it tiresome?

I do have and drive other cars in my house. All pretty balanced and comfortable to drive. With decent feedback when I accelerate and turn the steering wheel.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:34 am+ why are we getting into the technicalities of my driving? I didn't like the Saga FLX. Full stop. I didn't agree with the steering and how it drove and if that is how the Preve Executive drives like so, then that's bad.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:35 amAnd if comparing Saga FLX to Kelisa, I'd say, stick to Kelisa. The zippy-ness of the Kelisa is unparalleled.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:36 amNot to mention if having to compare Saga FLX to Myvi, I'd say get a Myvi. It's definitely a better experience. Just overall, less stress. The jammed roads are stress enough. One should at least have a relaxed ride. Like the Almera.
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Then the Saga is not for you. I owned a Saga, drives a Vios and Viva and I have to say the Saga is the most difficult to drive due to the reasons you have stated.

Those sushi cars are built for one thing: get in and drive, easy.

The Saga FLX, however, takes more effort to even get it moving without jerking, but it rewards you in spades once you adapt to that mentality. Especially the Vios....man I cannot imagine a more boring car to drive. Perhaps the almera will trump it.

However, I can appreciate the fact that not everyone subscribe to this. My sister, for example, would derive no pleasure from the saga because her idea of a good car is a fuss free, even if dull, trip from A to B. This is why Myvi is popular with certain ppl, but not ppl like me.

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Then why did you get a Vios, dares? Thinking of changing to a Preve Premium?


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:50 amBTW, I find the butt of the Preve Premium too big. Clearly, not a fan of big butts.

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Then why did you get a Vios, dares? Thinking of changing to a Preve Premium?
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The vios belongs to my sister laugh.gif

Nope, I recently bought a Fiesta and sold my Saga. The Fiesta jerks even worse at low speed. I like to punish myself like that unsure.gif
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 01:47 AM)
Then why did you get a Vios, dares? Thinking of changing to a Preve Premium?


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:50 amBTW, I find the butt of the Preve Premium too big. Clearly, not a fan of big butts.
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can fit reverse camera to make reversing an easier task.

that dares cannot tahan fix Saga everyday so have to sell it. he wants a better machine to do gymkhana.

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How was the resale value of the Saga? I'm wondering is the resale value bad because there are a lot of Protons for sale, or is it just 'cos the car has no value, you know?

And omg, at jerking at low speed. You do like to punish yourself. Many people told me to get a Fiesta but I don't know, I'm quite functional and practical - hence why Preve Premium and Jazz Hybrid. And Almera reliability. But Fiesta is good price, I think. Is yours auto?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 01:53 AM)
can fit reverse camera to make reversing an easier task.

that dares cannot tahan fix Saga everyday so have to sell it. he wants a better machine to do gymkhana.
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And Almera lost out for me when I found out back seats couldn't be put down. So un-functional. My Kelisa is awesome - can store lots of things. I've carried furniture in it.


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 01:53 AM)
can fit reverse camera to make reversing an easier task.

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yes, if i put it reverse camera, the premium preve will be almost perfect smile.gif


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:59 amBTW, does the Premium Preve have an arm rest for the driver? I forgot to notice - otherwise, can we fit it in? or does it have a centre console cum armrest already?

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How was the resale value of the Saga? I'm wondering is the resale value bad because there are a lot of Protons for sale, or is it just 'cos the car has no value, you know?

And omg, at jerking at low speed. You do like to punish yourself. Many people told me to get a Fiesta but I don't know, I'm quite functional and practical - hence why Preve Premium and Jazz Hybrid. And Almera reliability. But Fiesta is good price, I think. Is yours auto?
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Expect 20% depreciation in the first year, then 10% for second and lesser for each subsequent years.

Yea mine is auto hatchback. If you are after a practical fuss free ride and dont mind sacrificing performance and a bit of safety....I am gonna get burnt in his thread for saying this......get the Vios J. Anything more expensive than RM80k for a vios is a con job.

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And we can bluetooth our phone so it's hands-free, right? I witnessed it on a Grand Livina HU today and thought it was cool.
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most B-segment sedans cant have their seats fold flat anyway.

if your kelisa is so awesome, why bother parting with it anyway since it has adequately weighted steering feedback (by your definition), can zip here zip there, zip till holland, easy to park, easy to steer and you can put the whole of Ikea in it.
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 01:56 AM)


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:59 amBTW, does the Premium Preve have an arm rest for the driver? I forgot to notice - otherwise, can we fit it in? or does it have a centre console cum armrest already?
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Center console storage is the armrest.
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I saw the Vios G,very nice with all the leather, not quite as premium as Altis G but pretty good.

Vios doesn't really appeal to me, sadly.
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And we can bluetooth our phone so it's hands-free, right? I witnessed it on a Grand Livina HU today and thought it was cool.
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 01:56 AM)
And Almera lost out for me when I found out back seats couldn't be put down. So un-functional. My Kelisa is awesome - can store lots of things. I've carried furniture in it.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:57 am

yes, if i  put it reverse camera, the premium preve will be almost perfect smile.gif


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:59 amBTW, does the Premium Preve have an arm rest for the driver? I forgot to notice - otherwise, can we fit it in? or does it have a centre console cum armrest already?
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no arm rest.

aftermarket arm rest for the Preve one has yet to make a debut.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 02:02 AM)
most B-segment sedans cant have their seats fold flat anyway.

if your kelisa is so awesome, why bother parting with it anyway since it has adequately weighted steering feedback (by your definition), can zip here zip there, zip till holland, easy to park, easy to steer and you can put the whole of Ikea in it.
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yes, one should hear me exclaim every time i squeeze into a nook to park, "ISN'T MY CAR THE BEST?"

family pressure - they are twisting my arm to waste money on a new ride now. they've been wanting me to for the last ... 6 years at least.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 02:00 AM)
Expect 20% depreciation in the first year, then 10% for second and lesser for each subsequent years.

Yea mine is auto hatchback. If you are after a practical fuss free ride and dont mind sacrificing performance and a bit of safety....I am gonna get burnt in his thread for saying this......get the Vios J. Anything more expensive than RM80k for a vios is a con job.
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Vios good. At certain part of the states, when people look at you driving a Vios, it is like you driving a BMW.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 02:00 AM)
Expect 20% depreciation in the first year, then 10% for second and lesser for each subsequent years.

Yea mine is auto hatchback. If you are after a practical fuss free ride and dont mind sacrificing performance and a bit of safety....I am gonna get burnt in his thread for saying this......get the Vios J. Anything more expensive than RM80k for a vios is a con job.
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Depreciation sounds like other cars.


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Vios good. At certain part of the states, when people look at you driving a Vios, it is like you driving a BMW.
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Really... imagine when you drive a Premium Preve? Same reaction?

yeay to bluetooth and hands-free. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 02:06 AM)
Really... imagine when you drive a Premium Preve? Same reaction?
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unfortunately, no. Unless you rip off the tiger emblem and place a Honda or Toyota logo. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 02:05 AM)
Vios good. At certain part of the states, when people look at you driving a Vios, it is like you driving a BMW.
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God car yo.

I still get the occasional " y u no buy vios?" while looking puzzled at the Ford.

Regret betul whistling.gif


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Depreciation sounds like other cars.

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I suppose so.

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 02:09 AM)
God car yo.

I still get the occasional " y u no buy vios?" while looking puzzled at the Ford.

Regret betul  whistling.gif
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hahaha...

the Preve for me has a very understated executive look and feel. polo sedan doesn't come close. jazz hybrid has a fun outlook. the prius c is nether fun nor executive...


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 02:10 AM)
time to sell off the fiesta and get a Vios. Then people will look highly of you.
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I believe the G currently has a large cash rebate.

Man, the finishing in the Altis G was so sweet. Really class, imo.

Have you guys thought what kind of face lift or refresh or new features Proton will add to the Preve?

BTW, is the Hatchback and putra-like Preve confirmed?


Added on November 19, 2012, 2:16 amwhat about Inspira 1.8 compared to Premium Preve? I remember disliking the seats in the Inspira...

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 02:10 AM)
time to sell off the fiesta and get a Vios. Then people will look highly of you.
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Pokai dy unsure.gif will continue to drive my utterly shameful Fofi for a few more years whistling.gif
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the Vios looks the best. The smoked headlights makes it looks so nice. Its like winnie the pooh wearing dark shades. Then the front grill, OMG, so huge and so cute. That provides me a lot of assurance and I know I will be safe if I ever need to hit the tree in case the brakes couldn't stop the Vios in time.
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 02:11 AM)

Have you guys thought what kind of face lift or refresh or new features Proton will add to the Preve?

BTW, is the Hatchback and putra-like Preve confirmed?


Added on November 19, 2012, 2:16 amwhat about Inspira 1.8 compared to Premium Preve? I remember disliking the seats in the Inspira...
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Neither are confirmed and too soon to speculate.

As for the Inspira, what it lacks in equipment and features, it makes up with its mitsu lineage. Depends on your personal preference.
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One thing I like about the Preve Premium, the back seat floor is flat and even.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 02:21 AM)
Neither are confirmed and too soon to speculate.

As for the Inspira, what it lacks in equipment and features, it makes up with its mitsu lineage. Depends on your personal preference.
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Well I like a lot of things about the Preve, so "one of the things I like about the Preve..."


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Pokai dy  unsure.gif will continue to drive my utterly shameful Fofi for a few more years  whistling.gif
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How did you shortlist the Fiesta?
I wonder if some people who wish others to follow the same (i.e. asking people to buy Fiesta all the time, actually want others in the same boat or actually have a good experience with it)

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what mitsu lineage? copy from mitsu adalah!
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I remember not feeling it with the Inspira... but I thought one should compare 'cos it's the thing to do. The low seats that I tried to boost as high as possible, wasn't quite happening and a disappointment.
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How did you shortlist the Fiesta?
I wonder if some people who wish others to follow the same (i.e. asking people to buy Fiesta all the time, actually want others in the same boat or actually have a good experience with it)
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My obsession started when I got smoked by a Ford Fiesta..................... tongue.gif

Anyway, I considered several C-segs such as the Preve, Inspira and Forte. Since I don't have a family and usually it's just me and my gf, I decided to give my obsession a closure and got the Fiesta.

By the way, I drive a Kelisa regularly as well, manual summore, I can understand where your love for the Kelisa stems from thumbup.gif
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the first car I've driven is the Kelisa.

sadly, i only driven it for less than 10 yards. sad.gif

I was 14 at that time.

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No crz? wink.gif
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No crz? wink.gif
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I heart kelisa. Incomparable.
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welcome the stealth fighter.. thumbup.gif

the best fc i get is 6.9l/100km
90% highway...110km/h average...no sudden acc,slow overtake,no pedal hard..just all the way smooth drive with D,i will sure u will get it for6.6l/100km
but driving like this just bored yawn.gif never driving like this again...
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waaa. i see i see. but i guess i'm 60/40 city and highway. i drive like u though! haha am glad to see that because everyone seems to think a 2x year old male must bantai kereta gila babi. ugh. i prefer being smooth tongue.gif

btw done my 1st service. kena RM195/- for oil change, gasket, filter, also pasang magnetrap. i dunno whether they fixed the laggy throttle or not, but feels smoother now. maybe just in my head? haha.
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you cant put the whole of Ikea in a CRZ.

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waaa. i see i see. but i guess i'm 60/40 city and highway. i drive like u though! haha am glad to see that because everyone seems to think a 2x year old male must bantai kereta gila babi. ugh. i prefer being smooth tongue.gif

btw done my 1st service. kena RM195/- for oil change, gasket, filter, also pasang magnetrap. i dunno whether they fixed the laggy throttle or not, but feels smoother now. maybe just in my head? haha.
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We hv to pay for 1st service? Not free?

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2012, 02:45 AM)
the first car I've driven is the Kelisa.

sadly, i only driven it for less than 10 years. sad.gif

I was 14 at that time.
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No crz? wink.gif
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CRZ outta budget. the rear seats are only for kids or double amputees doh.gif

I dun usually utilize my rear seats....but I still need rear seats for the occasional stowaways passengers. And 4 doors!

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WTF. You dad made you deliver tofu to genting issit?


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CRZ outta budget. the rear seats are only for kids or double amputees  doh.gif

I dun usually utilize my rear seats....but I still need rear seats for the occasional stowaways passengers. And 4 doors!
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I mean 10 yards. laugh.gif

time to sleep. lol rclxub.gif
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These car decisions have given me sleepless nights. If only i had money... *sob* how do ppl affore cars in this country?? How do ppl save?
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We hv to pay for 1st service? Not free?
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Was replying to dares ... Hahaha


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We hv to pay for 1st service? Not free?
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hshaha at stowaways. I wanna give em comfort... Qhy must i buy a car?

I hv decided msians are rich.
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QUOTE(edwans @ Nov 19 2012, 02:49 AM)
btw done my 1st service. kena RM195/- for oil change, gasket, filter, also pasang magnetrap. i dunno whether they fixed the laggy throttle or not, but feels smoother now. maybe just in my head? haha.
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Typos more evident now. On phone. Sorry.


Added on November 19, 2012, 3:00 amQuestion re: preve premium seatbelt .. Does it make noise if i dont wear it?

Honda SA doesnt drive Honda. Would Proton workmen drive Proton?

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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 02:57 AM)
hshaha at stowaways. I wanna give em comfort... Qhy must i buy a car?

I hv decided msians are rich.
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Question re: preve premium seatbelt .. Does it make noise if i dont wear it?

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Yes...annoyingly.


QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 02:58 AM)
Honda SA doesnt drive Honda. Would Proton workmen drive Proton?
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just experience a serious road accident today. that why cannot get asleep now.

my 5-years-old proton saga crash very terribly front and back - it is a multiple car accident, and i am 1st car in middle, lorry hit me. gear also jam and faulty. lucky enough i am still safe in a proton saga (iswara), just some minor injuries. so even after all the repair, i think the car will give me many many problem.

so, may be it is time to get a new car, and proton preve is my first choice.

could anyone introduce me a good sale assistance? good price?

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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 05:23 AM)
could anyone introduce me a good sale assistance? good price?
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you can easily search LYN proton dealer here... discount up to Rm5k for CFE...
http://forum.lowyat.net/AutomotiveGarage

anyway, wondering preve have cabin filter for air con?
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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 05:23 AM)
just experience a serious road accident today. that why cannot get asleep now.

my 5-years-old proton saga crash very terribly front and back - it is a multiple car accident, and i am 1st car in middle, lorry hit me. gear also jam and faulty. lucky enough i am still safe in a proton saga (iswara), just some minor injuries. so even after all the repair, i think the car will give me many many problem.

so, may be it is time to get a new car, and proton preve is my first choice.

could anyone introduce me a good sale assistance? good price?
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depending on your location, I bought from a PJ SA, friendly and easy to deal with, discount sure have, you just have to negotiate with him..


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Honda SA doesnt drive Honda. Would Proton workmen drive Proton?
The Proton dealer I bought my Auto Exec CVT, most of their SA drives Insipra.. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 05:23 AM)
just experience a serious road accident today. that why cannot get asleep now.

my 5-years-old proton saga crash very terribly front and back - it is a multiple car accident, and i am 1st car in middle, lorry hit me. gear also jam and faulty. lucky enough i am still safe in a proton saga (iswara), just some minor injuries. so even after all the repair, i think the car will give me many many problem.

so, may be it is time to get a new car, and proton preve is my first choice.

could anyone introduce me a good sale assistance? good price?
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What insurance of your car with?

If the damage is very serious, might well move the car into any nearby Proton Edar body & paint centre for repair, perhaps can ask for total lost.
As you mentioned the damage was terrible.

A simple 4 angle photos, I will be able to suggest you whether the car can total lost or not.
5-year-old Saga, I assume is LMST version?
BLM only available at year 2008 if I remember.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 19 2012, 09:27 AM)
What insurance of your car with?

If the damage is very serious, might well move the car into any nearby Proton Edar body & paint centre for repair, perhaps can ask for total lost.
As you mentioned the damage was terrible.

A simple 4 angle photos, I will be able to suggest you whether the car can total lost or not.
5-year-old Saga, I assume is LMST version?
BLM only available at year 2008 if I remember.
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i attached picture here.
most probably claim the lorry insurance (last one that bang).
but since not all cars reported police yet, so no saman issue yet, so still not sure.
today i EL at home, need to take extra rest... rclxub.gif


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Just back from SC at setapak branch, few things requested at job sheet:-

1) 10k service, with engine oil Shell 5w40 (no 5w30 available at this SC). Done. FREE labour cost.
2) Respray at exhaust hanger. Done.
3) Check the "glu glu glu" sound at front both side power window. Greese applied.
4) ECU/TCU remapping. NO ECU/TCU reflash at this branch yet. sad.gif

May go COSE to reflash the ECU/TCU remapping one day.
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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 10:06 AM)
i attached picture here.
most probably claim the lorry insurance (last one that bang).
but since not all cars reported police yet, so no saman issue yet, so still not sure.
today i EL at home, need to take extra rest...  rclxub.gif
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From the pics, I'd venture a guess that it is not total loss hmm.gif
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any sifu can upload photos on how to dismantle the Preve speaker dashboard at the rear seat? the rattling sound for the rear passengers is very annoying. Want to DIY some sound proofing..Malu when I drive my colleagues out for lunch...
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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 19 2012, 10:06 AM)
i attached picture here.
most probably claim the lorry insurance (last one that bang).
but since not all cars reported police yet, so no saman issue yet, so still not sure.
today i EL at home, need to take extra rest...  rclxub.gif
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doesn't look serious as car chassis and engine bay no effected... still can repair it no doubt with some part replacement...

anyway, any cabin filter for preve?
bcos hate to heard the cooling coil clogged due to dust, sand, leaves, insects, etc... doh.gif
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lol wad. What no power steering? lolz.

it has power steering and it is a bit to the heavy side.

What is your previous car/the car you're driving currently?
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QUOTE(edwans @ Nov 19 2012, 02:49 AM)
waaa. i see i see. but i guess i'm 60/40 city and highway. i drive like u though! haha am glad to see that because everyone seems to think a 2x year old male must bantai kereta gila babi. ugh. i prefer being smooth tongue.gif

btw done my 1st service. kena RM195/- for oil change, gasket, filter, also pasang magnetrap. i dunno whether they fixed the laggy throttle or not, but feels smoother now. maybe just in my head? haha.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 03:03 AM)
Best comfort car.

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Yes...annoyingly.
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Which insurance company you with?

To me, just a normal accident though. Market value 12k.
If send to Proton Edar for repair, might get all original parts equip with.
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anyway, any cabin filter for preve?
bcos hate to heard the cooling coil clogged due to dust, sand, leaves, insects, etc...  doh.gif
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mesti ade cabin filter ma smile.gif belakang glove box
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 11:20 AM)
mesti ade cabin filter ma smile.gif belakang glove box
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Not necessarily. Both Saga and Persona has no paper cabin filter, only the mesh pollen filter.
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 11:20 AM)
mesti ade cabin filter ma smile.gif belakang glove box
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Only mesh pollen filter. No paper what so ever.
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 11:20 AM)
mesti ade cabin filter ma smile.gif belakang glove box
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 11:23 AM)
Not necessarily. Both Saga and Persona has no paper cabin filter, only the mesh pollen filter.
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as long as can isolate debris away fr cooling coil then should be fine...
because still some of the car doesn't fit with it yet... even though fit with filter but doesn't come with filter... doh.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 11:09 AM)
after 3 days drive viva,,i drive back my preve...suddenly feel steering very heavy...lolzz
maybe they updated ur car ecu/tcu to the newest thumbup.gif
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From the pics, I'd venture a guess that it is not total loss  hmm.gif
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it totally jam, cannot get any gear.
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 11:23 AM)
Not necessarily. Both Saga and Persona has no paper cabin filter, only the mesh pollen filter.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 19 2012, 11:28 AM)
Only mesh pollen filter. No paper what so ever.
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 11:46 AM)
Hahaha.
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if you want the paper cabin filter for preve, just g to toyota spare part shop and ask for Camry 2.0/2.4V filter.

it fits. biggrin.gif
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if you want the paper cabin filter for preve, just g to toyota spare part shop and ask for Camry 2.0/2.4V filter.

it fits. biggrin.gif
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old or new camry??

i remember lasttime jerie got bulk order the carbon cabin paper filter is it?is its the same thing?
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 12:04 PM)
oh..thank for correction notworthy.gif
haha...sudah bangun biggrin.gif
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Hahaha. Yea, and I'm trying to think of a crazy and nonsensical question to ask but nothing.
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 12:28 PM)
old or new camry??

i remember lasttime jerie got bulk order the carbon cabin paper filter is it?is its the same thing?
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older camry (XV40).

yes, the same thing.

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Hahaha. Yea, and I'm trying to think of a crazy and nonsensical question to ask but nothing.
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Well, "Why did the chicken cross the road" is always a popular choice brows.gif
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Wa my front 2 power windows start noise kak kak again.. I thought they changed different material?

edit: still waiting TS to activate my membership in prevoc

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 12:41 PM)
Well, "Why did the chicken cross the road" is always a popular choice  brows.gif
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chicken at least can make KFC

yesterday there's a kitten on MRR2!!

all of us on the fast lane have to swerve right and left like rally drivers trying to avoid that poor kitten.
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chicken at least can make KFC

yesterday there's a kitten on MRR2!!

all of us on the fast lane have to swerve right and left like rally drivers trying to avoid that poor kitten.
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y u no rescue the kitteh??
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ayam tikus. nanti kena makan.

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That why did the chicken cross the road coupled with the response was not funny at all....
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 11:09 AM)
after 3 days drive viva,,i drive back my preve...suddenly feel steering very heavy...lolzz
of course Viva and Preve are different ma..lols
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Toyota and Perodua using electric power steering which is much much lighter compared to hydraulic power steering.
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I must say it's a win for electric power steering some times. Less strain.
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IMHO, personally i don't like light steering on the car this big as our preve. Loose the conti feeling edy.
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I must say it's a win for electric power steering some times. Less strain.
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Light steering make car feels cheap and nasty. Go and test drive them conti like VW or BMW, their steering is heavy, nicely weighted. Provides better feedback and steering feel. Preve having a weighted steering makes me love it even more.
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I prefer to have it a bit weighted...got feedback from the road...
And you dun feel disconnected...
It's important to me, as a driver to 'feel' the car...

But hey, everybody have their own preferences...

On another note, i'm thinking about changing the stock rear muffler with a dual tip...
Would it be affecting anything?
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 02:43 PM)
I must say it's a win for electric power steering some times. Less strain.
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Reading ur post all these while sometimes makes me wonder, hmm.gif

- How tall are u?
- How is ur physique?
- Have u exercised or not?
- How is ur eating habits? Have u taken enough vitamins and vegetables?

Kept on saying Kelisa is the best for you and what not, power steering should be there to lessen the strain.. As if you r not that fit to swing a conti-felt steering? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 19 2012, 02:44 PM)
IMHO, personally i don't like light steering on the car this big as our preve. Loose the conti feeling edy.
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agreed, last time i drove my boss rexton, the steering so light made me feel unsafe sweat.gif
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QUOTE(valence @ Nov 19 2012, 03:34 PM)
agreed, last time i drove my boss rexton, the steering so light made me feel unsafe  sweat.gif
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+1 Spot on! Agreed with u bro! thumbup.gif
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Maybe I should just get a Myvi SE instead of a Preve CFE, eh?
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Why not...go ahead...
If u can carry furniture in ur Kelisa...i guess, u can fit the whole Ikea in Myvi... smile.gif
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QUOTE(valence @ Nov 19 2012, 03:53 PM)
yeap, such a big suv and i drove at highway, my hands keep sweating  doh.gif
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This is the same feedback given by reviewers of the new Hyundai Elantra, Kia Optima K5, steering too light because it is electronic as opposed to hydraulic. Too much assistance kills the joy of driving.
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QUOTE(redflame @ Nov 19 2012, 04:33 PM)
Why not...go ahead...
If u can carry furniture in ur Kelisa...i guess, u can fit the whole Ikea in Myvi... smile.gif
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laugh.gif tongue.gif No laa, home depot, Harvey Norman, or even Seng Heng's appliances oso can..

QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 19 2012, 04:36 PM)
This is the same feedback given by reviewers of the new Hyundai Elantra, Kia Optima K5, steering too light because it is electronic as opposed to hydraulic. Too much assistance kills the joy of driving.
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Waah.. Quite a number of supporter we have here.. thumbup.gif Nicely said Gigabit bro. (I thought I'm the only one who hate my father's Latio's Electronic Assist sweat.gif )
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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 19 2012, 04:36 PM)
This is the same feedback given by reviewers of the new Hyundai Elantra, Kia Optima K5, steering too light because it is electronic as opposed to hydraulic. Too much assistance kills the joy of driving.
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however i drove elantra 1.8 last month, hmm i can say is better than previous rexton la
btw i like the blue light on the steering in elantra laugh.gif
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i think it would be good if the SID lights and other red lights in cabin change to blue...

at night, my eyes quite blurred when seeing the SID and other red lights...
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I'm glad you're laughing at my expense.
I think the problem with the Myvi is that the design hasn't changed much.
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To those complaining about the features of the Preve, tell me, what car have you driven/owned?

Stop b****ing about the car, in a thread dedicated to the car. It's like going to a bar in liverpool and screaming, "Go Manchester!".

Some people...really make me wonder what happened to the level of intellect in youths today.

If you would like to get information, by all means you are welcomed.

Otherwise, please refrain from posting nonsense comments.

EDIT:

Re-read my post. Sounds very harsh. Lol. I just tire reading comments about people saying how this car sucks etc etc. I used to be a Proton hater myself, but I can see how much Proton has put into making this car. So yeah, pisses me off when people do not utilise their brains.

Apologies if my words offended anyone.

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 19 2012, 04:44 PM)
i think it would be good if the SID lights and other red lights in cabin change to blue...

at night, my eyes quite blurred when seeing the SID and other red lights...
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Is there any car maker out there who made the background colour of the meter panel to be changeable to a number of colours instead of one? I mean when u're bore u can just press a button to switch colour? hmm.gif That would be something..
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 19 2012, 04:44 PM)
i think it would be good if the SID lights and other red lights in cabin change to blue...

at night, my eyes quite blurred when seeing the SID and other red lights...
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Red lights more Audi feel mar.... hehehe.....! Actually I like it more than my previous Persona's orange lights, haha....
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I'm glad you're laughing at my expense.
I think the problem with the Myvi is that the design hasn't changed much.
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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Nov 19 2012, 04:49 PM)
Red lights more Audi feel mar.... hehehe.....! Actually I like it more than my previous Persona's orange lights, haha....
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something like this also nice...at least not whole SID red...
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Dude, I have to hand it to you..  yawn.gif  Among all the trolls out there that came here to bash/bit**/complaint or whatever about preve, you're the one who kept on saying Myvi/Kelisa or whatever brand the most in short time in this thread..  sweat.gif
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Thanks. I'm not complaining or bashing. I do want to get a Preve CFE but just uncertain - so I have questions and would seek advice here. I haven't said anything negative about the Preve CFE. I've said negative things against the Saga FLX.
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when i google for changing color meter panel, found this instead..



not really the effect i imagined...but the concept is there...

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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 04:56 PM)
Thanks. I'm not complaining or bashing. I do want to get a Preve CFE but just uncertain - so I have questions and would seek advice here. I haven't said anything negative about the Preve CFE. I've said negative things against the Saga FLX.
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I know. nod.gif Just the way u make ur entrance made ppl.. how do i say this, speechless.. Hahaha.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(arthur88 @ Nov 19 2012, 04:56 PM)


when i google for changing color meter panel, found this instead..

not really the effect i imagined...but the concept is there...
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Apologies if my words offended anyone.
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So far pigduck has been reasonable la, I spent a whole hour or so last night "talking" to him laugh.gif Even after he trashed my lovely ex-car Saga vmad.gif

Pigduck, personally I don't think Preve is suitable for you. If you expect something easy to drive like the Myvi, you won't get it with the Preve. Coming from a Waja and Vios, I had to change my driving style when I got my Saga, then change again when I got the Fiesta.

Myvi is the closest you will get to a Kelisa without sacrificing safety (Kelisa is not that safe to begin with, mind you...): small car, zippy and easy to manuever in urban conditions, but you will lose the go kart handling of the Kelisa at high speed.

There is nothing wrong with choosing Preve or Myvi, different ppl different expectations. My gf's sis booked a Myvi last week. Had she bought a Preve, she'll probably drive it into a longkang.

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wah...so many posts after back from appointment. rclxms.gif Glanced thru the posts, no comment nod.gif , good thing is may be V17 coming soon sweat.gif

Btw, anyone know which SC already has the latest ECU/TCU to update except the COSE? Thanks.
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So far pigduck has been reasonable la, I spent a whole hour or so last night "talking" to him laugh.gif Even after he trashed my lovely ex-car Saga  vmad.gif

Pigduck, personally I don't think Preve is suitable for you. If you expect something easy to drive like the Myvi, you won't get it with the Preve. Coming from a Waja and Vios, I had to change my driving style when I got my Saga, then change again when I got the Fiesta.

Myvi is the closest you will get to a Kelisa without sacrificing safety (Kelisa is not that safe to begin with, mind you...): small car, zippy and easy to manuever in urban conditions, but you will lose the go kart handling of the Kelisa at high speed.
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I know that Dares bro. biggrin.gif Read all ur lovely chat with him before jumped in today.. Yup, he trashed it pretty bad too, Maybe he didn't read about it in ur blog, "The Good, The Great, and the Awesome" part of that Saga FLX.

I've been meaning to say something about the zippy-ness of Kelisa though.. Its been a long time edy I wonder to myself why, as thru my personal experience I've met at least 5 ppl who drove Kelisa in this world, be it a teacher, a pregnant woman, a U student, or anybody. All those 5 drove their Kelisa like crazy.. Now I think I finally understand it.. That it is because of its zippy-ness that make it so agile where the driver can drive like nobody's business regardless of where u're driving it at the moment. Be it just out of parking, or out of basement, or in Hospital compound or on a remote village road.. Damn most of them drive like there's no tomorrow.. sweat.gif

Agreed with u nonetheless. Pigduck, just click on Area51SE's siggy if u see him later to find your way there. Happy reading. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 19 2012, 05:23 PM)
wah...so many posts after back from appointment.  rclxms.gif Glanced thru the posts, no comment  nod.gif , good thing is may be V17 coming soon  sweat.gif

Btw, anyone know which SC already has the latest ECU/TCU to update except the COSE? Thanks.
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Forgot to comment before wewanwang bro

Kinda frustrated to hear that Setapak 3S centre didn't have the new TCU/ECU remap yet. BTW, has the Allignment machine been installed there when u went there few days ago? It's been 1/2 year edy.
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I know.  nod.gif Just the way u make ur entrance made ppl.. how do i say this, speechless.. Hahaha.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2012, 05:17 PM)
So far pigduck has been reasonable la, I spent a whole hour or so last night "talking" to him laugh.gif Even after he trashed my lovely ex-car Saga  vmad.gif

Pigduck, personally I don't think Preve is suitable for you. If you expect something easy to drive like the Myvi, you won't get it with the Preve. Coming from a Waja and Vios, I had to change my driving style when I got my Saga, then change again when I got the Fiesta.

Myvi is the closest you will get to a Kelisa without sacrificing safety (Kelisa is not that safe to begin with, mind you...): small car, zippy and easy to manuever in urban conditions, but you will lose the go kart handling of the Kelisa at high speed.

There is nothing wrong with choosing Preve or Myvi, different ppl different expectations. My gf's sis booked a Myvi last week. Had she bought a Preve, she'll probably drive it into a longkang.
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Sorry for trashing the Saga. Maybe the test drive unit was lousy. icon_rolleyes.gif

I like to imagine myself driving along the highways and byways of Malaysia after getting my Preve - experiencing the wonderful sights but I'm pretty sure that won't be happening. I would probably still drive my Preve to work and back from work... but I like how spec-ed out the Preve is with the interior. Cabin is important to me. I will be sitting in it a lot.

QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 19 2012, 05:26 PM)
I know that Dares bro. biggrin.gif  Read all ur lovely chat with him before jumped in today.. Yup, he trashed it pretty bad too, Maybe he didn't read about it in ur blog, "The Good, The Great, and the Awesome" part of that Saga FLX.

I've been meaning to say something about the zippy-ness of Kelisa though.. Its been a long time edy I wonder to myself why, as thru my personal experience I've met at least 5 ppl who drove Kelisa in this world, be it a teacher, a pregnant woman, a U student, or anybody. All those 5 drove their Kelisa like crazy.. Now I think I finally understand it.. That it is because of its zippy-ness that make it so agile where the driver can drive like nobody's business regardless of where u're driving it at the moment. Be it just out of parking, or out of basement, or in Hospital compound or on a remote village road.. Damn most of them drive like there's no tomorrow.. sweat.gif

Agreed with u nonetheless. Pigduck, just click on Area51SE's siggy if u see him later to find your way there. Happy reading. thumbup.gif
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What do you agree with me on, Saya_Dhuang?

I must say I drive like a Kelisa maniac too. The handling is just ... amazing. My family grip the handles when I drive.


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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 19 2012, 05:30 PM)
Forgot to comment before wewanwang bro

Kinda frustrated to hear that Setapak 3S centre didn't have the new TCU/ECU remap yet. BTW, has the Allignment machine been installed there when u went there few days ago? It's been 1/2 year edy.
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I think will go COSE tomorrow to update the ECU/TCU, also to check for my wind screen ecotint claim status...totally no update from ICare. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 05:42 PM)
I thought I was quite normal... no?


Added on November 19, 2012, 5:49 pm

Sorry for trashing the Saga. Maybe the test drive unit was lousy.  icon_rolleyes.gif

I like to imagine myself driving along the highways and byways of Malaysia after getting my Preve - experiencing the wonderful sights but I'm pretty sure that won't be happening. I would probably still drive my Preve to work and back from work... but I like how spec-ed out the Preve is with the interior. Cabin is important to me. I will be sitting in it a lot.
What do you agree with me on, Saya_Dhuang?

I must say I drive like a Kelisa maniac too. The handling is just ... amazing. My family grip the handles when I drive.
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anyway, diff ppl diff appetite...
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Hello everyone,

Been following the thread since the beginning. Really nice community we have here. Driving a white Preve WXD ****.
Last Monday (A day before Deepavali) I went for this TCU, ECU & HU update at EON Glenmarie.. Saw a bunch of Preve done the same thing as well. Really glad I did despite the long wait. Coincidentally, a proton technician was there to assist EON technician on that day. The response is different now. The lag is minimize now at acceptable level. Don't really feel that sluggishness anymore.

Anyway, for added info, if you guys read hypertune magazine, a preve was on their cover page in their latest edition. Modified by Works Engineering.. really nice I must say..

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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 19 2012, 05:52 PM)

I think will go COSE tomorrow to update the ECU/TCU, also to check for my wind screen ecotint claim status...totally no update from ICare.  shakehead.gif
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have you already made an appointment with COSE for tomorrow? I called them this morning and was told that they are full this week. After that I made an appointment with Proton Edar Puchong this Thursday morning to update the ECU/TCU.
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QUOTE(kongyw @ Nov 19 2012, 07:29 PM)
have you already made an appointment with COSE for tomorrow? I called them this morning and was told that they are full this week. After that I made an appointment with Proton Edar Puchong this Thursday morning to update the ECU/TCU.
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Err..nope. Just request to update the ECU/TCU will not take long time right?? Anyone can confirm how long it will take for reflash the ECU/TCU?
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Err..nope. Just request to update the ECU/TCU will not take long time right?? Anyone can confirm how long it will take for reflash the ECU/TCU?
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 19 2012, 04:47 PM)
Is there any car maker out there who made the background colour of the meter panel to be changeable to a number of colours instead of one? I mean when u're bore u can just press a button to switch colour? hmm.gif That would be something..
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like crz 1...nice...when preve turbo on,turn colour to red... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 04:56 PM)
Thanks. I'm not complaining or bashing. I do want to get a Preve CFE but just uncertain - so I have questions and would seek advice here. I haven't said anything negative about the Preve CFE. I've said negative things against the Saga FLX.
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pig duck not bashing,dia cuma mabuk before clear laugh.gif

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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 19 2012, 07:38 PM)
Err..nope. Just request to update the ECU/TCU will not take long time right?? Anyone can confirm how long it will take for reflash the ECU/TCU?
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remember someone was turned away by COSE when showing up without making prior appointment but of course you can try your luck...
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 08:32 PM)
like crz 1...nice...when preve turbo on,turn colour to red... rclxms.gif
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wink.gif is all good.
At least you lot are honest.not straight out MUST buy preve premium type. Although may be reverse psychology works... To Preve or not to Preve? I am useless.
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QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 19 2012, 09:09 PM)
wink.gif is all good.
At least you lot are honest.not straight out MUST buy preve premium type. Although may be reverse psychology works... To Preve or not to Preve? I am useless.
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only use at city drive and jam most of the time,i suggest not to buy preve,u will suffer bad FC nad low speed jerking
stick to jazz hybrid is better,good in city drive,or vios also good is city drive,fuel save also


i choose preve becos i know what i need...
before i buy preve,in my list is,kia forte,hyundai elantra,inspira
and my budget is 90k
forte 1.6,no power...must buy 2.0...over budget,so out
elantra 1.6...i cant fit in rear seat..roofline too low,and all my family very tall 1,so out also


preve n inspira 1.8 only
last i take preve,becos it got esc over inspira,and can save abit money also...haha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(doel @ Nov 19 2012, 08:13 PM)
About one hour at Proton Edar Puchong
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No. 6 & 8, Jalan Serindit 3, Puchong Jaya Industrial Park, Bandar Puchong Jaya, 47100. Selangor.

QUOTE(kongyw @ Nov 19 2012, 08:53 PM)
remember someone was turned away by COSE when showing up without making prior appointment but of course you can try your luck...
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hmmm...will try out other branchs then. drool.gif


Anyone know which branch can I update the ECU/TCU in KL and Klang valley areas??
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 09:23 PM)
only use at city drive and jam most of the time,i suggest not to buy preve,u will suffer bad FC nad low speed jerking
stick to jazz hybrid is better,good in city drive,or vios also good is city drive,fuel save also
i choose preve becos i know what i need...
before i buy preve,in my list is,kia forte,hyundai elantra,inspira
and my budget is 90k
forte 1.6,no power...must buy 2.0...over budget,so out
elantra 1.6...i cant fit in rear seat..roofline too low,and all my family very tall 1,so out also
preve n inspira 1.8 only
last i take preve,becos it got esc over inspira,and can save abit money also...haha biggrin.gif
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But most of the people not like you. They only see logo, if its not proton then good to buy. If it is toyota, confirm mesti beli.
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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 19 2012, 09:32 PM)
Did you make appointment? Isit the address at below for Proton Edar Puchong?

No. 6 & 8, Jalan Serindit 3, Puchong Jaya Industrial Park, Bandar Puchong Jaya, 47100. Selangor.
hmmm...will try out other branchs then.  drool.gif
Anyone know which branch can I update the ECU/TCU in KL and Klang valley areas??
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that's the correct address and they told me the earliest for me is this Thursday. Think it's better you call any of the Proton Edar service centers first to ask if they perform the remapping and make appointment with them instead of just showing up without one. You know, to avoid the hassle and disappointment.
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QUOTE(kongyw @ Nov 19 2012, 10:00 PM)
that's the correct address and they told me the earliest for me is this Thursday. Think it's better you call any of the Proton Edar service centers first to ask if they perform the remapping and make appointment with them instead of just showing up without one. You know, to avoid the hassle and disappointment.
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Okay, thanks. Of course I always try to call the SC to make appointment before I go.

I have to go COSE tomorrow anyway just to look for the person in charge at ICare, need to FUCUK them about my ecotint. So, no harm to try if can reflash the ECU/TCU. brows.gif
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 19 2012, 09:33 PM)
But most of the people not like you. They only see logo, if its not proton then good to buy. If it is toyota, confirm mesti beli.
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if i very very kaya...i buy merc,bmw,audi,ferrari,lambo already smile.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 10:20 PM)
is thier money...they can buy what they wan ma...not my bussiness biggrin.gif

if i very very kaya...i buy merc,bmw,audi,ferrari,lambo already smile.gif
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Dear All,

After much research and going through blogs and comments about cars. I have decided to invest in Preve. But the reason i am asking for your assistance in to recommend me which Preve to buy ? Exec ? or Premium ?

I am looking for car that can give me good FC, does not require much maintenance and have a good resale value ( for Preve we still need to see the resale value). I will be driving mostly within Selangor.

So please give your suggestion along with reasons to go for premium or exec ? And pass me contact of any Sales Agent who can give me good deal.


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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 19 2012, 08:32 PM)
like crz 1...nice...when preve turbo on,turn colour to red... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mandeep @ Nov 19 2012, 11:08 PM)
Dear All,

After much research and going through blogs and comments about cars. I have decided to invest in Preve. But the reason i am asking for your assistance in to recommend me which Preve to buy ? Exec ? or Premium ?

I am looking for car that can give me good FC, does not require much maintenance and have a good resale value ( for Preve we still need to see the resale value). I will be driving mostly within Selangor.

So please give your suggestion along with reasons to go for premium or exec ? And pass me contact of any Sales Agent who can give me good deal.
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Go for the Premium! More discount than Exec now, more power, more features, 3 years labor service FREE...and lastly, join the huge Preve CFE group here..

A bit regret buying the Exec and not the Premium, but I enjoy driving my Preve Exec to work everyday thumbup.gif
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anyone who changed their HU to single din mind to share how u guys did it? even double din also can, becos i wanna know the bracket inside is DIN standard or not tat u can directly screw at the bracket.. if like tat then i just have to custom made 1 plastic to cover the surroundings, then i cover the faux wood with carbon fibre biggrin.gif

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wrong comment due to ben 3003 havent finish post...

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single DIN is 1 phrase >< single DIN HU is those standard one.. ours stock HU is considered double DIN..
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I owned preve excutive. Not major problem. The only annoying problem is rattling dashboard. 2 times go to SC complaint this problem, but still unsolve. Has anyone who got the same problem and managed to settle it?
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Morning guys, I having the breakfast, curry puffs & coffee, now at COSE. I arrived here at 7.20am and managed to slot in to ask for ECU/TCU update.

My car is in service bay now and the technician is working on it, but too bad cannot enter the service bay to see what they doing. At setapak branch, I can go to service bay and talk to the technician.

I also managed to meet up the person in charge of ICare, complaint about my ecotint. Again, the guy said need to refer his boss & other departments...damn.
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I owned preve excutive. Not major problem. The only annoying problem is rattling dashboard. 2 times go to SC complaint this problem, but still unsolve. Has anyone who got the same problem and managed to settle it?
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QUOTE(mandeep @ Nov 19 2012, 11:08 PM)
Dear All,

After much research and going through blogs and comments about cars. I have decided to invest in Preve. But the reason i am asking for your assistance in to recommend me which Preve to buy ? Exec ? or Premium ?

I am looking for car that can give me good FC, does not require much maintenance and have a good resale value ( for Preve we still need to see the resale value). I will be driving mostly within Selangor.

So please give your suggestion along with reasons to go for premium or exec ? And pass me contact of any Sales Agent who can give me good deal.
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i would suggest for preve CFE even though i'm manual freak...

i went to nissan show room ytday night have a look for almera... the car built quality does impress me, no doubt but seem the engine may difficult to maintain as air intake hose going thru the top of engine and the car chassis design similiar with myvi (torsion beam and 1000kg kerb weight only) which only suitable for casual / city driving as my opinion, preve is much better and heavier for high speed... hence almera the only 4AT which lack of power, may end up 5MT instead... compare almera 5MT RM67k (kosong car) and preve 7AT RM73k (full features), preferably go for preve instead... hence almera look a bit cramp for me too as i got long leg and doesnt comfortable for me, also look "emptiness" due to lack of features...

but preve's FC (turbo tuned engine) and maintenance (you know i know) are questionable... maintenance i have no issues as i like to DIY to solve any small matters by myself... resale value are difficult to judge, AMO just 10% differences compare good & bad resale value... but if planned to drive it more than 10 years, no need to consider on resale value at all, just look on the year end discount (to clear off this year car), spare part availability and spare part pricing will do, i guess preve still the winner here...i afraid almera will be another Vios that too much of batches and models released and certain spare parts only for certain batches only (if no mistaken), even have the tuned IMPUL accessories from factory for almera too, total RM88k... sweat.gif but so far seldom happened to proton and new spare part can use on older batches too as proton wont change the moulding too much and bulk production to reduce the manufacture cost...

but most probably i will get preve end of next year instead as preferably to wait for the rectification of common issues... hate to visit SC oftenly with new car... doh.gif
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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 20 2012, 09:27 AM)
Morning guys, I having the breakfast, curry puffs & coffee, now at COSE. I arrived here at 7.20am and managed to slot in to ask for ECU/TCU update.

My car is in service bay now and the technician is working on it, but too bad cannot enter the service bay to see what they doing. At setapak branch, I can go to service bay and talk to the technician.

I also managed to meet up the person in charge of ICare, complaint about my ecotint. Again, the guy said need to refer his boss & other departments...damn.
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good for you, free breakfast.. rclxms.gif

what happen to your ecotint?

BTW: Anyone know where to get the original bonnet sound insulation for preve exec, can get it from Proton or any Preve CFE who wants to sell??? only premium have it..damn ..why Proton have to remove all this necessary things for the exec?

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 09:30 AM)
good for you, free breakfast..  rclxms.gif

what happen to your ecotint?
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Yup, is free at customer waiting area. tongue.gif

Long story about my ecotint. In summary, noticed my car wind screen having a big crack line during the service at COSE; complaint to ICare and took almost 1 or 2 months time only managed to replace a new wind scree. However, that wind screen installed without the ecotint. So, again have to chase from ICare, 3 months passed still no news. Thats why I purposely come to COSE today.


Added on November 20, 2012, 10:04 amWoahh, my car ready to collect. Will update review later. Cheers.

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 19 2012, 02:32 PM)
Toyota and Perodua using electric power steering which is much much lighter compared to hydraulic power steering.
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from my internet reading,

proton did study to implement the EPS years ago,
but they found out that EPS was hard to be tuned to have "that HPS feeling".


Added on November 20, 2012, 10:33 am
QUOTE(redflame @ Nov 19 2012, 02:52 PM)
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But hey, everybody have their own preferences...
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agree smile.gif

dlm bandar, kita naik myvi sbb steering ringan & pendek.
blk kg, kita naik gen2 sbb stabil & boot besar.

for Pigduck,

buy preve, keep kelisa icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(farghmee @ Nov 20 2012, 10:30 AM)
from my internet reading,

proton did study to implement the EPS years ago,
but they found out that EPS was hard to be tuned to have "that HPS feeling".


Added on November 20, 2012, 10:33 am

agree smile.gif

dlm bandar, kita naik myvi sbb steering ringan & pendek.
blk kg, kita naik gen2 sbb stabil & boot besar.

for Pigduck,

buy preve, keep kelisa  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hahaha...
I wish i have another car i can use for city-driving...but too bad...i don't.
Use my Preve everywhere...

On another note...
Depending on your 'emotion'...you may drive like a maniac at times and the CFE does reward you with it's handling.
The fuel however...so so only~~~ sweat.gif
The harder u press, the more fuel it burn...except for long-haul journey, in which it is very fuel-efficient...

So, if any one is still contemplating whether to take the Exec or Premium...go for the Premium...seriously... thumbup.gif
It has the power when u need it and it's rather equipped with the necessary stuff that we need nowadays like ABS, Airbag etc...
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QUOTE(farghmee @ Nov 20 2012, 10:30 AM)
from my internet reading,

proton did study to implement the EPS years ago,
but they found out that EPS was hard to be tuned to have "that HPS feeling".


Added on November 20, 2012, 10:33 am

agree smile.gif

dlm bandar, kita naik myvi sbb steering ringan & pendek.
blk kg, kita naik gen2 sbb stabil & boot besar.

for Pigduck,

buy preve, keep kelisa  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I have no kampung to balik... cry.gif
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looking at the spare part lists in the Preve and saw this

48 [All] Bonnet Insulation PW931919 RM0.00


duh..no spare part price for the bonnet insulation doh.gif
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 12:05 PM)
looking at the spare part lists in the Preve and saw this

48 [All] Bonnet Insulation  PW931919  RM0.00


duh..no spare part price for the bonnet insulation  doh.gif
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just call the any proton stokis and ask the price...give them the number PW931919


Added on November 20, 2012, 12:11 pm
QUOTE(pigduck @ Nov 20 2012, 11:31 AM)
I have no kampung to balik...  cry.gif
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mari i punya kampung TT biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 12:05 PM)
looking at the spare part lists in the Preve and saw this

48 [All] Bonnet Insulation  PW931919  RM0.00


duh..no spare part price for the bonnet insulation  doh.gif
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its FREEEEEEEEEE...FOC... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif dream on... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 20 2012, 12:09 PM)
mari i punya kampung TT biggrin.gif
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you are a star, maverickng wink.gif

i suppose if I get a Preve Premium, I can maintain my wild driving. brows.gif
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QUOTE(redflame @ Nov 20 2012, 10:49 AM)
Hahaha...
I wish i have another car i can use for city-driving...but too bad...i don't.
Use my Preve everywhere...

On another note...
Depending on your 'emotion'...you may drive like a maniac at times and the CFE does reward you with it's handling.
The fuel however...so so only~~~  sweat.gif
The harder u press, the more fuel it burn...except for long-haul journey, in which it is very fuel-efficient...

So, if any one is still contemplating whether to take the Exec or Premium...go for the Premium...seriously...  thumbup.gif
It has the power when u need it and it's rather equipped with the necessary stuff that we need nowadays like ABS, Airbag etc...
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Preve also good for city driving a thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 09:27 AM)
I own a preve exec as well. your rattling dashboard is during rev the engine more than 2k rpm? or rattling all the time? I have this rattling dashboard during rev up the engine to 2k rpm from standstill but not too serious. I would rather not have the SC dismantle the dashboard and re-assemble back, might cause other problems later..my speaker dashboard at the rear also making rattling sound, going to do some DIY on my own this weekend smile.gif
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Mine rattle when driving at uneven road and also during rev up engine 2krpm. The noise come from center, right side and behind meter panel.

2 times go to cose but not settle.
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QUOTE(azforce @ Nov 20 2012, 01:02 PM)
Mine rattle when driving at uneven road and also during rev up engine 2krpm. The noise come from center, right side and behind meter panel.

2 times go to cose but not settle.
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fucuk the cose personnel la...this is the problem we consumer are facing from Proton, need to take leacve from work just to rectify the problem..and cannot solve..need to go back so many times..

or just leave your preve there for them to settle the problem once and for all, and ask them for a replacement car so that you can go to work.. nod.gif

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do anyone know how much sc charge for alignment?
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If I'm not mistaken, its 30 hengget


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hi guys, wondering anyone got proton car loan which is flexi type?
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 20 2012, 03:54 PM)
hi guys, wondering anyone got proton car loan which is flexi type?
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like today u happy u pay 1k...u not happy u pay 500?
u soong u settle in 1 shot...u beh soong u go for payment holiday?
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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 12:05 PM)
looking at the spare part lists in the Preve and saw this

48 [All] Bonnet Insulation  PW931919  RM0.00


duh..no spare part price for the bonnet insulation  doh.gif
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No need so susah la. Go korek korek from Jerie. He has already replaced with STP. So the original is likely lying idle somewhere.
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QUOTE(deity01 @ Nov 20 2012, 03:59 PM)
like today u happy u pay 1k...u not happy u pay 500?
u soong u settle in 1 shot...u beh soong u go for payment holiday?
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the wasn't the point, either song or beh song...
the key of flexi car loan is the interest are much lower compare to fixed car loan...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 20 2012, 09:28 AM)
i would suggest for preve CFE even though i'm manual freak...

i went to nissan show room ytday night have a look for almera... the car built quality does impress me, no doubt but seem the engine may difficult to maintain as air intake hose going thru the top of engine and the car chassis design similiar with myvi (torsion beam and 1000kg kerb weight only) which only suitable for casual / city driving as my opinion, preve is much better and heavier for high speed... hence almera the only 4AT which lack of power, may end up 5MT instead... compare almera 5MT RM67k (kosong car) and preve 7AT RM73k (full features), preferably go for preve instead... hence almera look a bit cramp for me too as i got long leg and doesnt comfortable for me, also look "emptiness" due to lack of features...

but preve's FC (turbo tuned engine) and maintenance (you know i know) are questionable... maintenance i have no issues as i like to DIY to solve any small matters by myself... resale value are difficult to judge, AMO just 10% differences compare good & bad resale value... but if planned to drive it more than 10 years, no need to consider on resale value at all, just look on the year end discount (to clear off this year car), spare part availability and spare part pricing will do, i guess preve still the winner here...i afraid almera will be another Vios that too much of batches and models released and certain spare parts only for certain batches only (if no mistaken), even have the tuned IMPUL accessories from factory for almera too, total RM88k...  sweat.gif  but so far seldom happened to proton and new spare part can use on older batches too as proton wont change the moulding too much and bulk production to reduce the manufacture cost...

but most probably i will get preve end of next year instead as preferably to wait for the rectification of common issues... hate to visit SC oftenly with new car... doh.gif
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But, I think Almera sales pickup is better than our Preve.

SOS

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QUOTE(BartS @ Nov 20 2012, 04:33 PM)
No need so susah la. Go korek korek from Jerie. He has already replaced with STP. So the original is likely lying idle somewhere.
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Jerie mouse == V12Kompressor? Wait I korek korek from him..but i need to ask the Proton stokis how much first hmm.gif


Added on November 20, 2012, 4:55 pm
QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:46 PM)
the wasn't the point, either song or beh song...
the key of flexi car loan is the interest are much lower compare to fixed car loan...
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there is no flexi car loan...only have FML (Father Mother Loan - 0%) tongue.gif ..sorry..just joking..

but for real, there is no such thing as flexi car loan..

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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:48 PM)
But, I think Almera sales pickup is better than our Preve.

SOS
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no doubt, all my colleague thumb up Almera just now...
asked me to say NO to preve... sweat.gif

QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:53 PM)
Jerie mouse == V12Kompressor? Wait I korek korek from him..but i need to ask the Proton stokis how much first  hmm.gif


Added on November 20, 2012, 4:55 pm
there is no flexi car loan...only have FML (Father Mother Loan - 0%)  tongue.gif ..sorry..just joking..
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as checked and double confirmed with my colleague... he recalled the SA's iPad calculator again...
9 years total interest RM7xxx; 5 years total interest RM3xxx

anyway, the price is based on Almera, assumed is the low spec RM67k...
the interest should higher than the figure as above if fixed car loan...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:57 PM)
no doubt, all my colleague thumb up Almera just now...
asked me to say NO to preve...  sweat.gif
as checked and double confirmed with my colleague... he recalled the SA's iPad calculator again...
9 years total interest RM7xxx; 5 years total interest RM3xxx

anyway, the price is based on Almera, assumed is the low spec RM67k...
the interest should higher than the figure as above if fixed car loan...
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dont have lo...

maybe some risky method? like u swap the car using ur cc...then if u can get 0% balance transfer again and again throughout the years that you plan for your loan...and pay them back with high level of discipline...then icon_idea.gif ....but this is very risky...haha

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Puchong SC.. they will do only when u ask for it.. even when ur car chassis number is affected (based on service bulletin) rclxub.gif


done serviced my abby for 10k yesterday... things that i complained: -
1. seat "krekk krekk" at backrest - they only apply grease, summore saying that other preve also the same..
2. RH wiper touching body frame - adjusted.
3. headlamp settings - adjusted
4. power window switch sometimes malfunction on driver power window only - they only reaffix the socket only, last time reaffix socket still the same..
5. air-cond whistling sound when in medium speed - they say campro engine air-cond will always got that whistling sound??? do nothing..

forgot about the ECU remapping until 1 hour later then telling him to do it.. if not, they simply just keep quiet only.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(archiq @ Nov 20 2012, 05:50 PM)
Puchong SC.. they will do only when u ask for it.. even when ur car chassis number is affected (based on service bulletin)  rclxub.gif
done serviced my abby for 10k yesterday... things that i complained: -
1. seat "krekk krekk" at backrest - they only apply grease, summore saying that other preve also the same..
2. RH wiper touching body frame - adjusted.
3. headlamp settings - adjusted
4. power window switch sometimes malfunction on driver power window only - they only reaffix the socket only, last time reaffix socket still the same..
5. air-cond whistling sound when in medium speed - they say campro engine air-cond will always got that whistling sound??? do nothing..

forgot about the ECU remapping until 1 hour later then telling him to do it.. if not, they simply just keep quiet only..  rclxub.gif
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Opps, I also having the same the right wiper touching the frame but I did not mention it...i though is normal cry.gif

Do your power window got "glu glu glu" sound when pressing down during the hot day? SC just applied grease but they mentioned if happen again they will change the part. Today afternoon, tried the power window still having "glu glu glu" sound. Do you guys also having the same sound??

I did the ECU/TCU remapping this morning at COSE, very fast about 1 hour settled. So far cannot comment much, just feel the POWER like inspira, very responsive...have to adapt the new settings again. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 20 2012, 04:57 PM)
no doubt, all my colleague thumb up Almera just now...
asked me to say NO to preve...  sweat.gif
as checked and double confirmed with my colleague... he recalled the SA's iPad calculator again...
9 years total interest RM7xxx; 5 years total interest RM3xxx

anyway, the price is based on Almera, assumed is the low spec RM67k...
the interest should higher than the figure as above if fixed car loan...
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did ur friend ask NO to VIOS too??? since almera and VIOS are same B segment... i cant brain why he as say no to Preve only??
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Nov 20 2012, 06:32 PM)
did ur friend ask NO to VIOS too??? since almera and VIOS are same B segment... i cant brain why he as say no to Preve only??
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Because it is a PROTON. Vios is a TOYOTA 5 star rating.
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 06:34 PM)
Because it is a PROTON. Vios is a TOYOTA 5 star rating.
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but VIOS obviously ALmera's direct competitor... both Jepun celup ASEAN made.. both old tech gadgets.. both old tech 4AT.. biggrin.gif but why only preve he say NO??
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When a Preve overtake his Almera or Vios when naik genting, he will really say "NOOoooooooooo!!!" to Preve.

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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Nov 20 2012, 06:32 PM)
did ur friend ask NO to VIOS too??? since almera and VIOS are same B segment... i cant brain why he as say no to Preve only??
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ask his fren,if swap the badge
nissan make car like preve
proton make car like almera
see which 1 he choose....sure thumb up for preve... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(archiq @ Nov 20 2012, 05:50 PM)
Puchong SC.. they will do only when u ask for it.. even when ur car chassis number is affected (based on service bulletin)  rclxub.gif
done serviced my abby for 10k yesterday... things that i complained: -
1. seat "krekk krekk" at backrest - they only apply grease, summore saying that other preve also the same..
2. RH wiper touching body frame - adjusted.
3. headlamp settings - adjusted
4. power window switch sometimes malfunction on driver power window only - they only reaffix the socket only, last time reaffix socket still the same..
5. air-cond whistling sound when in medium speed - they say campro engine air-cond will always got that whistling sound??? do nothing..

forgot about the ECU remapping until 1 hour later then telling him to do it.. if not, they simply just keep quiet only..  rclxub.gif
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3. headlamp settings??..what is that??


Added on November 20, 2012, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 20 2012, 06:26 PM)
Opps, I also having the same the right wiper touching the frame but I did not mention it...i though is normal  cry.gif

Do your power window got "glu glu glu" sound when pressing down during the hot day? SC just applied grease but they mentioned if happen again they will change the part. Today afternoon, tried the power window still having "glu glu glu" sound. Do you guys also having the same sound??

I did the ECU/TCU remapping this morning at COSE, very fast about 1 hour settled. So far cannot comment much, just feel the POWER like inspira, very responsive...have to adapt the new settings again.  rclxub.gif
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the power window "glu glu" sound cannot be solved by just applying grease or watever crap..they need to disemble the whole door panel and adjust something or change something...i manage to solved mine in cose last week..saw them taking off the whole door panel..now working like charm..last time asked around in forum and the only answer i got is apply silicone spray..which is bullshit..

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QUOTE(archiq @ Nov 20 2012, 05:50 PM)
Puchong SC.. they will do only when u ask for it.. even when ur car chassis number is affected (based on service bulletin)  rclxub.gif
done serviced my abby for 10k yesterday... things that i complained: -
1. seat "krekk krekk" at backrest - they only apply grease, summore saying that other preve also the same..
2. RH wiper touching body frame - adjusted.
3. headlamp settings - adjusted
4. power window switch sometimes malfunction on driver power window only - they only reaffix the socket only, last time reaffix socket still the same..
5. air-cond whistling sound when in medium speed - they say campro engine air-cond will always got that whistling sound??? do nothing..

forgot about the ECU remapping until 1 hour later then telling him to do it.. if not, they simply just keep quiet only..  rclxub.gif
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This kind of SC really makes Proton name bad...can complain to the HQ? If the HQ also like this, then Proton can go pack and close shop...

1. My car also have - does not bother to complain
2. Not sure, have not look yet but got 'tak tak tak' sound when I use it during rainny day...I think it is the shorter one that cause the sound
3. nothing wrong with mine
4. mine is ok..
5. never on my aircond pass medium speed .. tongue.gif (go to work early in the morning, leave work late evening..rainy season..cooling)

Had a wonderful time driving home today in my Preve
Reason: On the music to level 20...listen to my favourite songs...all the 'tak tak tak' , gluk gluk gluk , tik tik tik, dahsboard vibrate, all cannot hear already... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 20 2012, 06:49 PM)
When a Preve overtake his Almera or Vios when naik genting, he will really say "NOOoooooooooo!!!" to Preve.
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thumbup.gif , well say bro.


Added on November 20, 2012, 7:40 pm
QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 20 2012, 07:17 PM)
3. headlamp settings??..what is that??


Added on November 20, 2012, 7:21 pm
the power window "glu glu" sound cannot be solved by just applying grease or watever crap..they need to disemble the whole door panel and adjust something or change something...i manage to solved mine in cose last week..saw them taking off the whole door panel..now working like charm..last time asked around in forum and the only answer i got is apply silicone spray..which is bullshit..
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I see. Will ask SC to check again next time.

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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 20 2012, 07:36 PM)
thumbup.gif , well say bro.


Added on November 20, 2012, 7:40 pm

I see. Will ask SC to check again next time.
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and the Preve will say Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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ok, i have been following this preve thread a few days.

in term of performance and spec, i have no doubt preve win hand down when comparing to vios, almera. proton did very impressive in this preve. nothing to deny.

however, i found the quality is still a problem to Proton.

even though it might be just some small issues, but it will keep giving me headache to go SC, complain, follow up and etc..

well, i am quite busy with my work, these small issues is going to kill me.

could i conclude that, if i want a peace of mind, i should say No, and avoid Preve?

hope preve owner could give me neutral comment on my above statement.


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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 20 2012, 08:02 PM)
ok, i have been following this preve thread a few days.

in term of performance and spec, i have no doubt preve win hand down when comparing to vios, almera. proton did very impressive in this preve. nothing to deny.

however, i found the quality is still a problem to Proton.

even though it might be just some small issues, but it will keep giving me headache to go SC, complain, follow up and etc..

well, i am quite busy with my work, these small issues is going to kill me.

could i conclude that, if i want a peace of mind, i should say No, and avoid Preve?

hope preve owner could give me neutral comment on my above statement.


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Those all sorts of problems are easily fixable. They are looking for methods to improve here and there, and many of them already SOLVED.
Its not like any of those small problems that will affect the safety of your vehicle cruising on the roads.
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Bros, I am going for 1K 1st Service next week + new ECU/ TCU remap.

Can you still remember how your engine feel like after your 1st Service?
Smoother?
Better FC?

Can I whack above 3K RPM & above 160KMH after 1st Service?
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I actually whack 160km/h even before 1st service.

After 1st service, engine will be smoother, more refined, less "grinding" sound. Again that was b4 the ECU/TCU mapping.

With new ECU/TCU mapping, engine mounting fuel line hose MOD, turbo pressure house cable ties mod, the driving experience is seriously good NOW
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 08:27 PM)
I actually whack 160km/h even before 1st service.

After 1st service, engine will be smoother, more refined, less "grinding" sound. Again that was b4 the ECU/TCU mapping.

With new ECU/TCU mapping, engine mounting fuel line hose MOD, turbo pressure house cable ties mod, the driving experience is seriously good NOW
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After my 1st service, i felt that engine more noisy and rough. Maybe due to the engine oil which is thicker.
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 08:39 PM)
After my 1st service, i felt that engine more noisy and rough. Maybe due to the engine oil which is thicker.
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Perhaps so, I believe u are using 15w50 fully synthetic?
I'm using 10w30 semi for the time being, 5w30 next wink.gif
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Perhaps so, I believe u are using 15w50 fully synthetic?
I'm using 10w30 semi for the time being, 5w30 next wink.gif
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Yeah, that time the SA highly recommended. Can I change to 5w30 or 5w40 next service interval which is 10k?
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 09:17 PM)
Yeah, that time the SA highly recommended. Can I change to 5w30 or 5w40 next service interval which is 10k?
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Sure why not?
The first rating of the oil grade, the lower it is, the better the pickup will be. Generally feel LIGHTER wink.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 08:27 PM)
I actually whack 160km/h even before 1st service.

After 1st service, engine will be smoother, more refined, less "grinding" sound. Again that was b4 the ECU/TCU mapping.

With new ECU/TCU mapping, engine mounting fuel line hose MOD, turbo pressure house cable ties mod, the driving experience is seriously good NOW
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Thanks.
I can't wait for the remap. Was told that the true power & nature of Preve CFE shows itself after the remap drool.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 09:22 PM)
Sure why not?
The first rating of the oil grade, the lower it is, the better the pickup will be. Generally feel LIGHTER wink.gif
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The lower the cheaper or more expensive? I thought oil thicker better. Anyway, got so many which one to choose? Syntium 800 5w-30 syntium 1000,2000,4000.

@arthur,
EON sg pinang SC got 5w 30? Or need to buy outside and give them?

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QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 20 2012, 08:02 PM)
ok, i have been following this preve thread a few days.

in term of performance and spec, i have no doubt preve win hand down when comparing to vios, almera. proton did very impressive in this preve. nothing to deny.

however, i found the quality is still a problem to Proton.

even though it might be just some small issues, but it will keep giving me headache to go SC, complain, follow up and etc..

well, i am quite busy with my work, these small issues is going to kill me.

could i conclude that, if i want a peace of mind, i should say No, and avoid Preve?

hope preve owner could give me neutral comment on my above statement.


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just some small small quality issue,if u really dont have time to go sc,dont buy proton...go for vios,peace of mind(hopefully)

i am also a busy man,no time to go sc always my preve also got minor issue(window sound,some ratting sound...etc),but i just ignore it,atleast dont have any big problem is ok

i enjoy drive preve,the power...value for money..

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 09:17 PM)
Yeah, that time the SA highly recommended. Can I change to 5w30 or 5w40 next service interval which is 10k?
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bring ur own 5w30/40 FS EO nxt time go service..most of the sc dont have this EO

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 09:24 PM)
The lower the cheaper or more expensive? I thought oil thicker better. Anyway, got so many which one to choose? Syntium 800 5w-30 syntium 1000,2000,4000.

@arthur,
EON sg pinang SC got 5w 30? Or need to buy outside and give them?
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Proton cars do not recommend any 5w30 oil for their vehicles somehow but I know where you can purchase them. wink.gif

Try head to any Suzuki service centre nearby, all suzuki vehicles are using 5w30. Its either semi or fully, 4litre or 3 litre pack.
4 litre semi, selling around RM97.
Those are all Petronas API SM grade, rebadged oil. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 09:32 PM)
Proton cars do not recommend any 5w30 oil for their vehicles somehow but I know where you can purchase them. wink.gif

Try head to any Suzuki service centre nearby, all suzuki vehicles are using 5w30. Its either semi or fully, 4litre or 3 litre pack.
4 litre semi, selling around RM97.
Those are all Petronas API SM grade, rebadged oil. biggrin.gif
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yaya.. all suzuki vehicles are using 5w30. U can found it at any Suzuki SC nod.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 09:32 PM)
Proton cars do not recommend any 5w30 oil for their vehicles somehow but I know where you can purchase them. wink.gif

Try head to any Suzuki service centre nearby, all suzuki vehicles are using 5w30. Its either semi or fully, 4litre or 3 litre pack.
4 litre semi, selling around RM97.
Those are all Petronas API SM grade, rebadged oil. biggrin.gif
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Thanks. I want buy fully syntium Is it like this? http://www.gnm.my/itemdetail.php?item_id=346
but still don't get the 800, 2000,3000,4000,5000

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 09:43 PM)
Thanks. I want buy fully syntium Is it like this? http://www.gnm.my/itemdetail.php?item_id=346
but still don't get the 800, 2000,3000,4000,5000
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Go buy from Suzuki service centre then.

Go purchase the 5w30 fully synthetic. wink.gif
If you around Ipoh, I do have in my Suzuki service centre rolleyes.gif


Else, you can check them here.
http://www.servicecenter.com.my/suzuki-service-centre-list
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 09:47 PM)
Go buy from Suzuki service centre then.

Go purchase the 5w30 fully synthetic. wink.gif
If you around Ipoh, I do have in my Suzuki service centre  rolleyes.gif
Else, you can check them here.
http://www.servicecenter.com.my/suzuki-service-centre-list
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Suzuki service centre got 1 type of petronas 5w-30 only? I will look for it when I have the time.
Thanks a lot.
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When a Preve overtake his Almera or Vios when naik genting, he will really say "NOOoooooooooo!!!" to Preve.
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 20 2012, 07:17 PM)
3. headlamp settings??..what is that??


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the power window "glu glu" sound cannot be solved by just applying grease or watever crap..they need to disemble the whole door panel and adjust something or change something...i manage to solved mine in cose last week..saw them taking off the whole door panel..now working like charm..last time asked around in forum and the only answer i got is apply silicone spray..which is bullshit..
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I heard many people got their power-window actuator replaced, wonder why COSE simply repair it?
Can anyone tell what is the actual problem on the power window that Porton need to recall this item? Also "gluk gluk" sound?
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Yes only one type.

We only sell API SM grade, 5w30 semi (3litre and 4litre) and 5w30 fully (3litre and 4litre)
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 10:00 PM)
Yes only one type.

We only sell API SM grade, 5w30 semi (3litre and 4litre) and 5w30 fully (3litre and 4litre)
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So I just take 4 litre right? How much the price? got higher than rm200?
Thanks. LOL today ask so many questions about engine oil again.
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I remember.....around RM170 to Rm180....
Just purchase the 4 litre.
Have to check again tomorrow, its generally cheaper than buying Petronas engine oil at any Proton Edar service centre.

No idea why but for us Suzuki, Suzuki Malaysia Automobile do get us a better offer than Proton though.....

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How come proton doesn't encourage to use thinner oil, since thinner oil gives better performance?
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Too thin may cause engine oil leaking perhaps? Not advisable for new engine, that's for sure.

Not all cars designed to run with thinner oil, especially those not properly maintained.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 10:10 PM)
I remember.....around RM170 to Rm180....
Just purchase the 4 litre.
Have to check again tomorrow, its generally cheaper than buying Petronas engine oil at any Proton Edar service centre.

No idea why but for us Suzuki, Suzuki Malaysia Automobile do get us a better offer than Proton though.....
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is it cheaper that petronas station?

nxt service planning to use L.moly full syn oil rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 20 2012, 06:26 PM)
Opps, I also having the same the right wiper touching the frame but I did not mention it...i though is normal  cry.gif

Do your power window got "glu glu glu" sound when pressing down during the hot day? SC just applied grease but they mentioned if happen again they will change the part. Today afternoon, tried the power window still having "glu glu glu" sound. Do you guys also having the same sound??

I did the ECU/TCU remapping this morning at COSE, very fast about 1 hour settled. So far cannot comment much, just feel the POWER like inspira, very responsive...have to adapt the new settings again.  rclxub.gif
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right wiper touching frame is not normal bro.. later got heavy raining, ur wiper rubber will be hancur becoz of wiping the windscreen at very high speed.. laugh.gif summore got "ketak ketak ketak" sound.. so annoying... about the power window "glu glu glu" sound, my power window doesn't have that sound.. only sometimes sound like "krakk tik tik tik".. or "tak tak tak" something like that.. but i doesn't mind much about the sound, as long as the power window is working..

QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 20 2012, 07:17 PM)
3. headlamp settings??..what is that??


Added on November 20, 2012, 7:21 pm
the power window "glu glu" sound cannot be solved by just applying grease or watever crap..they need to disemble the whole door panel and adjust something or change something...i manage to solved mine in cose last week..saw them taking off the whole door panel..now working like charm..last time asked around in forum and the only answer i got is apply silicone spray..which is bullshit..
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headlamp settings.. height of the headlamp beam.. i found out that my headlamp high beam is not high enough.. causing limited view when night driving on quiet state road for example.. ask them to readjust, still untested yet..

QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 20 2012, 07:34 PM)
This kind of SC really makes Proton name bad...can complain to the HQ? If the HQ also like this, then Proton can go pack and close shop...

1. My car also have - does not bother to complain
2. Not sure, have not look yet but got 'tak tak tak' sound when I use it during rainny day...I think it is the shorter one that cause the sound
3. nothing wrong with mine
4. mine is ok..
5. never on my aircond pass medium speed .. tongue.gif (go to work early in the morning, leave work late evening..rainy season..cooling)

Had a wonderful time driving home today in my Preve
Reason: On the music to level 20...listen to my favourite songs...all the 'tak tak tak' , gluk gluk gluk , tik tik tik, dahsboard vibrate, all cannot hear already... laugh.gif
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good for u.. thumbup.gif

'tak tak tak' is only on rainy day? hmm.. gonna test it out when raining..
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 10:14 PM)
Too thin may cause engine oil leaking perhaps? Not advisable for new engine, that's for sure.

Not all cars designed to run with thinner oil, especially those not properly maintained.
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So can use on Preve since its still new? Don't want oil leaking LOL rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 09:43 PM)
Thanks. I want buy fully syntium Is it like this? http://www.gnm.my/itemdetail.php?item_id=346
but still don't get the 800, 2000,3000,4000,5000
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800 is semi.. 1000 and above is fully...

1000 = 15W-50
3000 = 5W-40
5000 = 0W-40 and 0W-30

most Proton SC has only syntium 1000 for fully..
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Nov 20 2012, 06:32 PM)
did ur friend ask NO to VIOS too??? since almera and VIOS are same B segment... i cant brain why he as say no to Preve only??
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Because it is a PROTON. Vios is a TOYOTA 5 star rating.
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Nov 20 2012, 06:39 PM)
but VIOS obviously ALmera's direct competitor... both Jepun celup ASEAN made.. both old tech gadgets.. both old tech 4AT..  biggrin.gif  but why only preve he say NO??
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my 3 colleague driving honda, toyota and hyundai... so guess it why they say so...

QUOTE(excelint @ Nov 20 2012, 08:02 PM)
ok, i have been following this preve thread a few days.

in term of performance and spec, i have no doubt preve win hand down when comparing to vios, almera. proton did very impressive in this preve. nothing to deny.

however, i found the quality is still a problem to Proton.

even though it might be just some small issues, but it will keep giving me headache to go SC, complain, follow up and etc..

well, i am quite busy with my work, these small issues is going to kill me.

could i conclude that, if i want a peace of mind, i should say No, and avoid Preve?

hope preve owner could give me neutral comment on my above statement.


thank you
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i did a visit to Nissan and Proton to test drive with Almera and Preve...

Almera:
no doubt about the engine performance 1.5cc, maybe bcos of light kerb weight 1000kg, floor the pedal and my wife can feel the pressure as she said she "glued" on the back seat while i floor pedal... cabin size, just right enough for me and slightly bigger than honda city... finish quality mo doubt, still better than Preve... Steering wheel lighter than Preve... rear seat seem have longer leg room as feel by my wife compare to Preve... also have informative meter like Preve, such as average fuel consumption, KM to empty tank, etc... but lack of features even though full spec version and chassis still with rear torsion beam and required to fork out another RM3000-RM6000 for proper upgrade with recommended accessories and RM1500 (offering 50% off from Rm3000) for IMPUL body kit only ... but sad only that 1 air bag for low spec and my wife complain about it...

Preve:
I tested the first batch, the door panel will "pregnant" after the window fully up... i told to SA that i dont want waist my time to solve the common issues but SA claimed confidently that Proton solved the power window issues and remap ECU on the second batch which is started manufactured from 10th of November onwards... rear bonnet cabin seem a little bit smaller as the "wide ass" shorter than almera... the cabin floor surface seem a bit higher than almera, end up the rear passenger's leg have to lift higher... but of cos Preve are wider than Almera as Preve can sit 3 person easily at rear seat... can feel Preve have much roomy at front seat as the dashboard have the distance betweem driver and passenger but Almera are much closer... features wise, no doubt Preve win with both hands up, henve can override with the gearing by using paddle shift even though under full auto mode (can upshift / downshift manually under D mode)... but sad that no leather seat, have to settle it by myself...

Conclusion:
Comparing between Almera basic auto spec with all the recommended upgrade RM70k + RM6k + RM1.5k and Preve CFE with rich features RM68k... still i think will go for Preve instead... hope Proton wont disappointing me as i highlighted the power window issues to SA repeat and repeat... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 20 2012, 10:41 PM)
is it cheaper that petronas station?

nxt service planning to use L.moly full syn oil rclxm9.gif
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I sell RM97 to suzuki customers smile.gif
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Hi i ve just placed a deposit for my 1st car , preve exe CVT ...
I Have briefly go through some of the post in the forum ...
Can i conclude that the FC for preve is more than 10km per l, correct me if im wrong and the preve you guys mentioned included preve exe cvt ? For my understanding most of you are driving the premium version ...
Before it's too late, can any1 advices on the diff between exe n premium version (performance wise mainly the fc rather than those fancy item like auto sensor , push start button , spoiler etc ). FYI , i seldom out for long journey , mainly the car is use in town area of which always get trap in traffic congestion , slow down by traffic lights etc ... Your advices are much appreciated
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more than 10km per l in high traffic congestion? with 1300kg++, I doubt it.
I do think even Vios barely can do that.

No ESC, no auto wiper, no cruise control, no auto light, no side airbags, no GPS, no rear bootlid spoiler, no TURBO !!!
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Fully Syn Engine oil last 10k km. does proton oil filter last that long?
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QUOTE(vinorgouki @ Nov 20 2012, 11:25 PM)
Fully Syn Engine oil last 10k km. does proton oil filter last that long?
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Why not?

If the oil is good enough, it won't too much contamination to the oil filter, thus longer lifespan for the parts.
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QUOTE(yoongzhen.lee @ Nov 20 2012, 11:11 PM)
Before it's too late, can any1 advices on the diff between exe n premium version (performance wise mainly the fc rather than those fancy item like auto sensor , push start button , spoiler etc ). FYI , i seldom out for long journey , mainly the car is use in town area of which always get trap in traffic congestion , slow down by traffic lights etc ... Your advices are much appreciated
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i suggest go with CFE instead...
otherwise i will go for manual if planned for CPS as CPS itself still lack of power with auto...

i planned for CFE but driving around Klang Valley too as i like to play with paddle shift too... smile.gif
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seriously..what's the big fuss about having leather seat..few days ago, my neighbour asked me what seat material is preve using, i told him fabric..and he pointed his merc leather seat and told me it's cracking..

yea..leather seat is classy..but do you think its easy to maintain? rolleyes.gif

and not to bad-mouth almera, but when i sit in it, the dashboard feels so plasticky..and the interior is nothing to shout about..only the exterior probably look nicer than dugong vios
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In terms of fuel economy, the CVT-equipped Prevé Executive is rated to be the best of the lot sipping on only 5.8L/100km, whereas the manual transmission Executive drinks 0.4L more at 6.2L/100km and finally the Premium drinks 6.6L/100km

I got this from a website ...
Means Exe auto version better than Manual better than premium , in term of FC ....
Am i right ?


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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 11:30 PM)
Why not?

If the oil is good enough, it won't too much contamination to the oil filter, thus longer lifespan for the parts.
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Currently im using liqui moly semi syn 10w-30. Plan to to change to fully syn on my next service.
But donno how good is liqui moly fully syn 0w-30 engine oil.

Which brand will u choose for fully syn engine oil bro?
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 20 2012, 11:36 PM)
seriously..what's the big fuss about having leather seat..few days ago, my neighbour asked me what seat material is preve using, i told him fabric..and he pointed his merc leather seat and told me it's cracking..

yea..leather seat is classy..but do you think its easy to maintain?  rolleyes.gif

and not to bad-mouth almera, but when i sit in it, the dashboard feels so plasticky..and the interior is nothing to shout about..only the exterior probably look nicer than dugong vios
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doubt is the weather issues...

i used with PU leather on my current myvi without any maintenance, no cracks or whatever for 6 years...
i guess i will wrap a cheap PU leather as well as it consider as part of "wear and tear" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yoongzhen.lee @ Nov 20 2012, 11:37 PM)
In terms of fuel economy, the CVT-equipped Prevé Executive is rated to be the best of the lot sipping on only 5.8L/100km, whereas the manual transmission Executive drinks 0.4L more at 6.2L/100km and finally the Premium drinks 6.6L/100km

I got this from a website ...
Means  Exe auto version better than Manual better than premium , in term of FC ....
Am i right ?
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Depend on your driving pattern anyway.

If you read the brochure, those FC was recorded at 90km/h constantly. Around 2000rpm, max torque kicks in.
How often you can maintain that figure?

You won't be able to save much from each tank? RM10?
Per month perhaps around RM50?
A year is RM600?

I would prefer a car that I enjoy driving more rather than the small saving in fuel. thumbup.gif


Added on November 21, 2012, 12:00 am
QUOTE(vinorgouki @ Nov 20 2012, 11:43 PM)
Currently im using liqui moly semi syn 10w-30. Plan to to change to fully syn on my next service.
But donno how good is liqui moly fully syn 0w-30 engine oil.

Which brand will u choose for fully syn engine oil bro?
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No idea bro. I usually go for the one that I can get easily, affordable and change on time. Its an enhanced Campro, not Lambo....I dun think I want to feed it with top range engine oil....Proton recommended Petronas anyway....unless certain brand can give me huge performance gain and good FC, which I doubt......
Never use fully syn b4, all the time semi. Change every 5k

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Thanks for clarification ...
The more i know the confuse i am ....
Exe or premium , haiz .... Both same instalment after -7 k downpayment for premium
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QUOTE(yoongzhen.lee @ Nov 21 2012, 12:07 AM)
Thanks for clarification ...
The more i know the confuse i am ....
Exe or premium , haiz .... Both same instalment after -7 k downpayment for premium
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go for premium bro...now got year end discount also...i heard is up to 5k...
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 10:10 PM)
I remember.....around RM170 to Rm180....
Just purchase the 4 litre.
Have to check again tomorrow, its generally cheaper than buying Petronas engine oil at any Proton Edar service centre.

No idea why but for us Suzuki, Suzuki Malaysia Automobile do get us a better offer than Proton though.....
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Ya wor, so much cheaper le...proton SC charged RM218.xx shocking.gif


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QUOTE(archiq @ Nov 20 2012, 10:42 PM)
right wiper touching frame is not normal bro.. later got heavy raining, ur wiper rubber will be hancur becoz of wiping the windscreen at very high speed..  laugh.gif summore got "ketak ketak ketak" sound.. so annoying...
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Ya, mine only will hear that sound when wiping at very high speed...

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QUOTE(yoongzhen.lee @ Nov 21 2012, 12:07 AM)
Thanks for clarification ...
The more i know the confuse i am ....
Exe or premium , haiz .... Both same instalment after -7 k downpayment for premium
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Get the premium, the discount isn't shabby.
Not sure where you can get 5k out there but I do give 3k++ to my customers sweat.gif
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Nov 21 2012, 12:11 AM)
go for premium bro...now got year end discount also...i heard is up to 5k...
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promotion 2 k ( for premium only) + 5 years free services (entitle for exe version too)
hmm under consideration ....

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U sure?

As I know, for CFE variant, its either 2k rebates or 3 years free service.
Exe CVT and Manual? There are no rebates nor free service package. You sure your SA telling u the truth?

The extra discount after 2k, would come from the dealer themselves.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 21 2012, 12:36 AM)
U sure?

As I know, for CFE variant, its either 2k rebates or 3 years free service.
Exe CVT and Manual? There are no rebates nor free service package. You sure your SA telling u the truth?

The extra discount after 2k, would come from the dealer themselves.
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Ya sure , i buy at jalan pahang 's proton showrooms. Thats y i choose Exe since there is significant of price gap to go for premium. Nvm will clarify with her tomorrow , as im hesitate to take premium now ....
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QUOTE(yoongzhen.lee @ Nov 21 2012, 12:45 AM)
Ya sure , i buy at jalan pahang 's proton showrooms. Thats y i choose Exe since there is significant of price gap to go for premium. Nvm will clarify with her tomorrow , as im hesitate to take premium now ....
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this forumer claim that he get a 5k discount from a SA...maybe u can pm him... rclxms.gif


QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 05:22 PM)
Hi all..i met 1 proton dealer, he offered me RM5k drool.gif  discount for preve premium. With downpayment RM7,390-RM5,000=RM2,390 not include discount for NCD, is it worth?
Loan RM65,600 with 2.68%, 9 years...
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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 13 2012, 09:02 PM)
Pls pm me if anyone want the proton dealer's name..not nice to put someone numbers here rite..
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Yeah..it is true...i got 5k discount for premium..
Any forumer here met the dealer and got the same discount as me?
More than 10 person pmed me...any good news?

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 08:27 PM)
I actually whack 160km/h even before 1st service.

After 1st service, engine will be smoother, more refined, less "grinding" sound. Again that was b4 the ECU/TCU mapping.

With new ECU/TCU mapping, engine mounting fuel line hose MOD, turbo pressure house cable ties mod, the driving experience is seriously good NOW
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hahahahaha....i whack 200km/h at 900 mileage...beh tahan the temptation tongue.gif
for the engine mounting...see the slide few times, then see the pictures post by lim eu bian only understand how to do it...but still...半桶水 only...not dare to do it...



Added on November 21, 2012, 7:00 am
QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Nov 20 2012, 09:24 PM)
The lower the cheaper or more expensive? I thought oil thicker better. Anyway, got so many which one to choose? Syntium 800 5w-30 syntium 1000,2000,4000.

@arthur,
EON sg pinang SC got 5w 30? Or need to buy outside and give them?
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not sure though...u can ask them...
lower rating suitable for city drive, but not suitable for long distance...

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Hi i ve just placed a deposit for my 1st car , preve exe CVT ...
I Have briefly go through some of the post in the forum ...
Can i conclude that the FC for preve is more than 10km per l, correct me if im wrong and the preve you guys mentioned included preve exe cvt ? For my understanding most of you are driving the premium version ...
Before it's too late, can any1 advices on the diff between exe n premium version (performance wise mainly the fc rather than those fancy item like auto sensor , push start button , spoiler etc ). FYI , i seldom out for long journey , mainly the car is use in town area of which always get trap in traffic congestion , slow down by traffic lights etc ... Your advices are much appreciated
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My Preve Exec CVT clock at 9.8l/100km today (current mileage 871) , when I took my Preve on the first day 30min driving 25.6l/100km rclxub.gif
The FC will go down as your engine starts to run in...

I think you better go for the premium if your budget allow..more features and only pay slightly more downpayment...I don't think the 0.xx FC will have any significant impact on your monthly petrol bill..

Since you said you always trap in the traffic congestion (BUY PREMIUM!), be ready to accept the fact that the car will be slightly jerky (for my Exec) during low speed..read a lot comments saying that it is CVT issue..not sure whether the ECU/TCU can do something about this issue..


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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 21 2012, 01:23 AM)
Yeah..it is true...i got 5k discount for premium..
Any forumer here met the dealer and got the same discount as me?
More than 10 person pmed me...any good news?
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Are you a first time car owner? If yes, then can have more discount, that's what my SA told me..I think got more rebates for 1st time car owner..

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Thanks for all the advices ... Will look into it thoroughly

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seriously..what's the big fuss about having leather seat..few days ago, my neighbour asked me what seat material is preve using, i told him fabric..and he pointed his merc leather seat and told me it's cracking..

yea..leather seat is classy..but do you think its easy to maintain?   rolleyes.gif

and not to bad-mouth almera, but when i sit in it, the dashboard feels so plasticky..and the interior is nothing to shout about..only the exterior probably look nicer than dugong vios
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Nothing to big fuss about, some people prefer leather, some prefer fabric. I prefer fabric but my wife prefer leather.. sweat.gif
The only downside of fabric is the dust...very dusty sometimes..as for the leather, it burns your butt if you put your car under the sun..need good tinting and cold aircond biggrin.gif

All on individual preference wink.gif


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Thanks for all the advices, think its time for me to get a new dealer ... Can any1 pm me the contacts ?
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where is your location?

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QUOTE(kongyw @ Nov 19 2012, 08:53 PM)
remember someone was turned away by COSE when showing up without making prior appointment but of course you can try your luck...
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I believe it's rich8883. Hehehe

QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 19 2012, 10:34 PM)
If kaya, buy helicopter better la...sure no jam  thumbup.gif
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+1 Regardless it would be hell to search for a helipad to land, might as well park on the office roof. Hehehe

QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 20 2012, 09:27 AM)
I also managed to meet up the person in charge of ICare, complaint about my ecotint. Again, the guy said need to refer his boss & other departments...damn.
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And the story continues... sweat.gif

QUOTE(archiq @ Nov 20 2012, 05:50 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


forgot about the ECU remapping until 1 hour later then telling him to do it.. if not, they simply just keep quiet only..  rclxub.gif
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Hmm.. So can I conclude that Puchong SC is nothing to brag about?

BTW, I've thought the headlamp setting is standard like that. So it can be adjusted..

And why didn't they change ur power window? Mine was automatically changed during last 10k service

QUOTE(dares @ Nov 20 2012, 06:49 PM)
When a Preve overtake his Almera or Vios when naik genting, he will really say "NOOoooooooooo!!!" to Preve.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 20 2012, 08:27 PM)
I actually whack 160km/h even before 1st service.

After 1st service, engine will be smoother, more refined, less "grinding" sound. Again that was b4 the ECU/TCU mapping.

With new ECU/TCU mapping, engine mounting fuel line hose MOD, turbo pressure house cable ties mod, the driving experience is seriously good NOW
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Same with me after been advised by CAT team. nod.gif

QUOTE(yoongzhen.lee @ Nov 21 2012, 08:40 AM)
Thanks for all the advices ... Will look into it thoroughly
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Keep us updated bro, and welcome to the family!

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On the other note, good morning fellow Preveians! thumbup.gif

Happy wub.gif-ing for all Wub Div members!

Please reserve ur calendar on the 1st Dec 2012 as we're having our Central TT!!! Or can i say, membership TT? Woohoo!
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Please reserve ur calendar on the 1st Dec 2012 as we're having our Central TT!!! Or can i say, membership TT? Woohoo!
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isnt central TT would be on 15th december?
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Hi all,
May i know the current 3 years free service for CFE is including labors and parts?
Coz i heard that it's only cover labor charge.....izzit true?
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isnt central TT would be on 15th december?
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Well, seeing the response in FB that only 3-4 ppl only, that date is no longer the date. So it's decided that it will be on 1st Dec 2012

QUOTE(jw88 @ Nov 21 2012, 09:40 AM)
Hi all,
May i know the current 3 years free service for CFE is including labors and parts?
Coz i heard that it's only cover labor charge.....izzit true?
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According to the nationwide add by proton and their webpage SOS, yes it is so but only for Premium one.

Those who bought before Nov 2012 will get free labour charge for 3 service only.
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QUOTE(winazza @ Nov 21 2012, 01:23 AM)
Yeah..it is true...i got 5k discount for premium..
Any forumer here met the dealer and got the same discount as me?
More than 10 person pmed me...any good news?
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+1
I met the dealer... but one of LYN forumer from same branch) say can get RM5500...

confirmed RM5000.00 discount AT LEAST for preve CFE... end up preve CFE about RM68k only...
but the SA keep pushing me to achieve his sales target... my decision is about 7 years commitment... sweat.gif
so compare to "empty" almera and "full" preve with same price... what you think? tongue.gif

anyway, as confirmed the current preve is 2nd batch which solved the common issues...

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hahahahaha....i whack 200km/h at 900 mileage...beh tahan the temptation tongue.gif
for the engine mounting...see the slide few times, then see the pictures post by lim eu bian only understand how to do it...but still...半桶水 only...not dare to do it...

Added on November 21, 2012, 7:00 am
not sure though...u can ask them...
lower rating suitable for city drive, but not suitable for long distance...
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have you try for top speed and acceleration from 0-100km/h after remap the ecu/tcu? someone tell that it's hard to get the top speed compare to previous.
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have you try for top speed and acceleration from 0-100km/h after remap the ecu/tcu? someone tell that it's hard to get the top speed compare to previous.
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who?
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who?
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I think its Allen? hmm.gif But he claimed the new setting is learning his driving style. Am i correct Allen?
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who?
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from another forum.
better not mention his name. or is it you? brows.gif
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from another forum.
better not mention his name. or is it you? brows.gif
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Puchong SC.. they will do only when u ask for it.. even when ur car chassis number is affected (based on service bulletin)  rclxub.gif
done serviced my abby for 10k yesterday... things that i complained: -
1. seat "krekk krekk" at backrest - they only apply grease, summore saying that other preve also the same..
2. RH wiper touching body frame - adjusted.
3. headlamp settings - adjusted
4. power window switch sometimes malfunction on driver power window only - they only reaffix the socket only, last time reaffix socket still the same..
5. air-cond whistling sound when in medium speed - they say campro engine air-cond will always got that whistling sound??? do nothing..

forgot about the ECU remapping until 1 hour later then telling him to do it.. if not, they simply just keep quiet only..  rclxub.gif
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1. both my front seats also, already told sc but till now no news yet.
2. i got to check that one out.
3. headlamp settings?
4. power window driver side - this gluk gluk need to change the regulator, i went for my 5k service earlier and they apply grease but still happens, so must change the regulator and fix the bulging panel.

5. my air-cond, when turn to medium speed, something inside the aircond vent, seem to be causing the sound, sounded like something loose


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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 10:55 AM)
1. both my front seats also, already told sc but till now no news yet.
2. i got to check that one out.
3. headlamp settings?
4. power window driver side - this gluk gluk need to change the regulator, i went for my 5k service earlier and they apply grease but still happens, so must change the regulator and fix the bulging panel.

5. my air-cond, when turn to medium speed, something inside the aircond vent, seem to be causing the sound, sounded like something loose
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Speaking of which,

Just noticed this morning that my driver side seat already ebrbulu as well.. Damn.. sweat.gif

Head lamp height bro.

BTW, how r u stargate bro? Everything's good?
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Oit, what's up with a freak mode?

Nice new Siggy.. rclxms.gif
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hide. ini thread banyak kereta powderful.
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hide. ini thread banyak kereta powderful.
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hide. ini thread banyak kereta powderful.
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LOL! tongue.gif

This thread for only 1 car maa.. Just that a lot of other more powderful cars were compared to it.. Hehe
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 21 2012, 11:03 AM)
Speaking of which,

Just noticed this morning that my driver side seat already ebrbulu as well.. Damn.. sweat.gif



Head lamp height bro.

BTW, how r u stargate bro? Everything's good?
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Bro, what pants you wear to work sampai driver seat berbulu eh? tongue.gif 

Anyway, the seat quality of Preve is not really good.

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everything good bro Dhuang Dhuang.

just busy and having flu for past 4 weeks.

about engine oil

for my first 2 service 1k and 5k, i used semi 10W40, which i think is sufficient for my usage (stop n go traffic due to heavy jam) and 5k interval.

my 3rd service i would use fully synthetic 5W40 syntium 3000 for 10k interval.

regardless of 0w, 5w, 10w, in msia temp won't be less than 10degree Celsius.
unless u live on highland and maybe temp drop below 10.

between 30 and 40, thicker oil 40 suits my driving condition, due to traffic jams.

before 1k service, i already whack the engine 140-150km/h, so far only whack till 160km/h.

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 21 2012, 11:18 AM)
Bro, what pants you wear to work sampai driver seat berbulu eh? tongue.gif 

Anyway, the seat quality of Preve is not really good.
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Of course work pant.. Hehe.. No Jeans or Khakis whatsoever but still... Maybe because I drove it alot on weekend?? sweat.gif

Unfortunately, gotta agree with u on that though. See/felt/sat on more comfortable seat before.
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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 21 2012, 11:18 AM)
Bro, what pants you wear to work sampai driver seat berbulu eh? tongue.gif 

Anyway, the seat quality of Preve is not really good.
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i do occasionally wear jeans, but mine still not berbulu.... yet

totally agree, and about the water repellent, not true, doesn't work.

sigh, malu lah, back rest got sound, window got sound, aircon got sound (when set medium speed)... my future parents in-law were in the car...
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 21 2012, 10:23 AM)
I think its Allen? hmm.gif But he claimed the new setting is learning his driving style. Am i correct Allen?
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I just reflashed yesterday after complained to the Proton Edar Jalan Lahat.
Seem got improvement, tested 140km/h just now when I sent my car for some "upgrade".

Will try again this Friday, business trip to KL. Will feedback again.
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:22 AM)
everything good bro Dhuang Dhuang.

just busy and having flu for past 4 weeks.

about engine oil

for my first 2 service 1k and 5k, i used semi 10W40, which i think is sufficient for my usage (stop n go traffic due to heavy jam) and 5k interval.

my 3rd service i would use fully synthetic 5W40 syntium 3000 for 10k interval.

regardless of 0w, 5w, 10w, in msia temp won't be less than 10degree Celsius.
unless u live on highland and maybe temp drop below 10.

between 30 and 40, thicker oil 40 suits my driving condition, due to traffic jams.

before 1k service, i already whack the engine 140-150km/h, so far only whack till 160km/h.
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I just went for 3rd 10k service few days ago, used Shell helix ultra 5w40 fully synthetic. FYI, most SC dun have the 5w30/5w40, must check with SC or bring your own engine oil before go to service. Have ur car update the latest ECU/TCU?

I also whack the engine 160km/h before 1k service, top speed 180km/h....hope not getting any summon whistling.gif
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:27 AM)
i do occasionally wear jeans, but mine still not berbulu.... yet

totally agree, and about the water repellent, not true, doesn't work.

sigh, malu lah, back rest got sound, window got sound, aircon got sound (when set medium speed)... my future parents in-law were in the car...
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mat79 contribution on the driver seat could be useful, it could be that due to cost cutting measure, Leather Seat or premium seat are sacrificed..... shakehead.gif
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btw, about the hu, anyone got free update from sc?

remember read about someone got it updated, was it only os/firmware update or map as well?
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:39 AM)
btw, about the hu, anyone got free update from sc?

remember read about someone got it updated, was it only os/firmware update or map as well?
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Someone said got update at Puchong SC but i checked with COSE, the SA told me no such update le sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 21 2012, 11:36 AM)
I just went for 3rd 10k service few days ago, used Shell helix ultra 5w40 fully synthetic. FYI, most SC dun have the 5w30/5w40, must check with SC or bring your own engine oil before go to service. Have ur car update the latest ECU/TCU?

I also whack the engine 160km/h before 1k service, top speed 180km/h....hope not getting any summon  whistling.gif
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oh, perhaps will go to those authorized sc again, the one i went to, they use shell, may use Shell helix ultra 5w40 fully synthetic, how much is shell?

mine not yet flash with the latest ecu/tcu, but i notice below:

engine start - 1500 - 1600 rpm before drop back down to 800 / 900rpm
stop at D mode - 600 / 700rpm
stop at N mode - 800 / 900rpm

80Km/h - around 1500 - 1600rpm
110km/h - around 2000 - 2100rpm

still experience light jerking around 10 - 20km/h when slowing down. cvt characteristic perhaps?
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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 21 2012, 11:36 AM)
I just went for 3rd 10k service few days ago, used Shell helix ultra 5w40 fully synthetic. FYI, most SC dun have the 5w30/5w40, must check with SC or bring your own engine oil before go to service. Have ur car update the latest ECU/TCU?

I also whack the engine 160km/h before 1k service, top speed 180km/h....hope not getting any summon  whistling.gif
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yes,,Most of the Proton SC dun have the 5w30.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Nov 21 2012, 11:38 AM)
mat79 contribution on the driver seat could be useful, it could be that due to cost cutting measure, Leather Seat or premium seat are sacrificed..... shakehead.gif
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i read mat79 post earlier. yeah due to cost cutting they take out leather seats.

perhaps once warranty period over, will get synthetic leather to have that leather feel, then after 7yrs, buy new car lor.

so proton opt for fabric seats claim to be water repellent, and better quality, not true lor, somemore got sound from the backrest.


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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 21 2012, 11:41 AM)
Someone said got update at Puchong SC but i checked with COSE, the SA told me no such update le  sweat.gif
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ceh, got bluffed lor, lol.

i everyday log on myeg to check for summons... hahaha... till now no saman yet sweat.gif

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:53 AM)
i read mat79 post earlier. yeah due to cost cutting they take out leather seats.

perhaps once warranty period over, will get synthetic leather to have that leather feel, then after 7yrs, buy new car lor.

so proton opt for fabric seats claim to be water repellent, and better quality, not true lor, somemore got sound from the backrest.


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ceh, got bluffed lor, lol.

i everyday log on myeg to check for summons... hahaha... till now no saman yet sweat.gif
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As they said, "be careful of what u wish for.." Ahahaha laugh.gif

Me as well actually.. hehe.. Touchwood nothing will catch my White Knight in the cam! hehe
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Water repellent seat?
Few months ago, my son vomits at the passenger seat. It is lots and seeping to the seat. I do not have choice, take the seat and wash with water. After 2 days keep drying under the sun, it is still not completely dry. And after reinstall seat, seat belt sensor on passenger seat being 'bengong' for two weeks.

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 21 2012, 12:00 PM)
As they said, "be careful of what u wish for.." Ahahaha laugh.gif

Me as well actually.. hehe.. Touchwood nothing will catch my White Knight in the cam! hehe
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eh, both myeg and rileks sama right? i usually check myeg

read from somewhere, speeding on the left lane AES camera unable to capture... lol
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:47 AM)
oh, perhaps will go to those authorized sc again, the one i went to, they use shell, may use Shell helix ultra 5w40 fully synthetic, how much is shell?

mine not yet flash with the latest ecu/tcu, but i notice below:

engine start - 1500 - 1600 rpm before drop back down to 800 / 900rpm
stop at D mode - 600 / 700rpm
stop at N mode - 800 / 900rpm

80Km/h - around 1500 - 1600rpm
110km/h - around 2000 - 2100rpm

still experience light jerking around 10 - 20km/h when slowing down. cvt characteristic perhaps?
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So far what I observed after ECU/TCU updated:
- stop at D mode around 1000rpm
- feel no more jerking at 10-20km/h low speed
- engine now very responsive like inspira and vios, have to adapt to it again, feel too fast hard to brake
- FC dun know yet

QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:53 AM)
ceh, got bluffed lor, lol.

i everyday log on myeg to check for summons... hahaha... till now no saman yet sweat.gif
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myeg not update their system on time...may be once a week.

QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 21 2012, 12:00 PM)
As they said, "be careful of what u wish for.." Ahahaha laugh.gif

Me as well actually.. hehe.. Touchwood nothing will catch my White Knight in the cam! hehe
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Touchwood also hehe

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Nov 21 2012, 11:52 AM)
yes,,Most of the Proton SC dun have the 5w30..  nod.gif
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can go for Eneos 5-30? it selling RM105 at some spare part shop...
i guess it should better than Petronas semi sync if the Eneos's oil groups higher than Petronas...
bcos no matter mineral, semi syc or fully syc category, there have have the oil groups for different category...
we even can get fully syc around RM120-RM150 easily, but oil groups are questionable...

QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:53 AM)
i read mat79 post earlier. yeah due to cost cutting they take out leather seats.

perhaps once warranty period over, will get synthetic leather to have that leather feel, then after 7yrs, buy new car lor.

so proton opt for fabric seats claim to be water repellent, and better quality, not true lor, somemore got sound from the backrest.
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i considering to wrap a leather seat instead... maybe go for PU leather instead for better protection...
anyone wrapped the preve seat yet so far?
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QUOTE(archiq @ Nov 20 2012, 05:50 PM)
Puchong SC.. they will do only when u ask for it.. even when ur car chassis number is affected (based on service bulletin)  rclxub.gif
done serviced my abby for 10k yesterday... things that i complained: -
1. seat "krekk krekk" at backrest - they only apply grease, summore saying that other preve also the same..
2. RH wiper touching body frame - adjusted.
3. headlamp settings - adjusted
4. power window switch sometimes malfunction on driver power window only - they only reaffix the socket only, last time reaffix socket still the same..
5. air-cond whistling sound when in medium speed - they say campro engine air-cond will always got that whistling sound??? do nothing..

forgot about the ECU remapping until 1 hour later then telling him to do it.. if not, they simply just keep quiet only..  rclxub.gif
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is this puchong SC mentioned is the puchong kinrara SC? if so, can anyone recommend to me which SC to go if the the puchong kinrara SC is like this...any proton SC near bukit jalil which is good...thanks notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(wewanwang @ Nov 21 2012, 12:20 PM)
So far what I observed after ECU/TCU updated:
- stop at D mode around 1000rpm
- feel no more jerking at 10-20km/h low speed
- engine now very responsive like inspira and vios, have to adapt to it again, feel too fast hard to brake
- FC dun know yet
myeg not update their system on time...may be once a week.
Touchwood also hehe
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so new ecu/tcu, will deliver more power for stop n go traffic? hmm.gif more power = more fuel burn.
my current fuel usage is 14L/100KM, travel along jln yap kwan seng, jln ampang, mrr2, up n down ramps and hilly road.
when jams going up ramps at slow speed, will burn more fuel sweat.gif


QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 21 2012, 12:20 PM)
can go for Eneos 5-30? it selling RM105 at some spare part shop...
i guess it should better than Petronas semi sync if the Eneos's oil groups higher than Petronas...
bcos no matter mineral, semi syc or fully syc category, there have have the oil groups for different category...
we even can get fully syc around RM120-RM150 easily, but oil groups are questionable...
i considering to wrap a leather seat instead... maybe go for PU leather instead for better protection...
anyone wrapped the preve seat yet so far?
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ya, synthetic or PU leather, last longer, genuine leather requires weekly/monthly conditioning.
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Nov 21 2012, 12:40 PM)
so new ecu/tcu, will deliver more power for stop n go traffic?  hmm.gif  more power = more fuel burn.
my current fuel usage is 14L/100KM, travel along jln yap kwan seng, jln ampang, mrr2, up n down ramps and hilly road.
when jams going up ramps at slow speed, will burn more fuel sweat.gif
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Ya, thats my concern too. Will see in few weeks time to judge lo whether the FC is good or bad.

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