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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.18, D5200 announced, what next? D400?

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post Nov 11 2012, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(asm@m @ Nov 10 2012, 02:21 PM)
My friend offered me around ~Rm2750 for his used D7000 body with 18-105mm kit len.
I'm quite in dilemma since I can get a new D5100 body + 35mm 1.8G lens combo cheaper ~RM2100

This is my first DSLR btw.
So any opinion guy, should i go with a new D5100 or a used D7000.
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so far everyone is recommending the D7000. Personally I like the D5100 better tongue.gif

It's smaller and lighter, easier to bring around. Flip screen is useful for overhead shooting and camwhoring (i have too few photos of myself haha). I also like the fact that all the buttons are on the right side, so you only need one hand to change settings!

focus motor depends on what lens are you actually going to buy. No point getting body with focus motor if u end up buying AF-S lenses anyway tongue.gif

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post Nov 14 2012, 07:53 PM

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woo

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please excuse the CA.. old D40 doesn't correct these things tongue.gif
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(cicadasx @ Nov 19 2012, 07:33 PM)
Hi guys, not sure whether I can ask this sort of question here considering this is a Nikon thread.

Im thinking of buying a wide angle lens however im not sure which third party brand is the best one, its hard to differentiate between Sigma and Tamron, and Nikon is too expensive for my price range. Hope anyone can give some suggestion thank you smile.gif
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tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 is actually a good lens. some might say even better than nikon if not for the narrow range. the new "II" model has AF motor too.

if u want REALLY wide, can try samyang 8mm. no AF, but at that wide you wont need it tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(tongweng @ Nov 25 2012, 02:06 AM)
alright...thanks for advices... anyone have some suggestion where can find trustworthy shops? cause i heard some shop selling bad quality things
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i'd buy online if i were u tongue.gif

i think the main point here is, even if u want to buy from a shop and not sure if they're trustworthy or not, just buy the camera and lens kit and that's all. bag and SD card should be free.

it's when they start to offer you 'packages' like tripod or adapter this and filter that, for 'a good price', you should say NO.

they know it's easy for people to compare prices on the core stuff like camera and lenses so they cant con about those. people dont really know about adapters and filters and tripods so that's where they take advantage
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post Nov 28 2012, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(dzuan @ Nov 28 2012, 06:22 PM)
hye guys,

im a newbies in DSLR topic,kinda plan to buy one since im planning to fly to europe next year.watching football at old trafford,couple days in london n paris.need an advice on which model might be suitable for me if u dont mind sharing and also recommend where is the best deal in town.tryin to compare D3200 n D5100,had a guy in Fotokem in OU recommend me D5100 knowing im still an newbies in DSLR things...do plan to used it for a long run,so im looking for something in between if u guys agree...
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when exactly is your trip? if it's early next year, i'd say get the D3200/D5100 instead of waiting for the D5200. so you can have a DSLR to practice with before you go in your trip smile.gif if wait for D5200, terus go trip but still dunno how to use, spoil laa hehehe

between the two models, they're very very similar indeed. i prefer the D5100's swivel screen (it's rarely useful, but when you need it, it's there!).
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post Nov 29 2012, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(tongweng @ Nov 29 2012, 09:39 PM)
not quite understand , but thanks for the explaination..  i need more time to digest all this thing
hehe thanks for trying explaining it...i guess i need more time to get it understand since i am new to dslr user XD


Added on November 29, 2012, 10:58 pmanyone knows good reputation shop to buy camera? cause i still dunno where to get my dslr XD
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well you know te camera sensor is like the film right? try to think the lens as a window, which lets light fall onto the sensor

a DX sensor is relatively small. to have light cover the whole DX sensor, u only need a small window = DX lens.

FX sensor is bigger. so u need a bigger window (FX lens) to enable light to cover the whole sensor surface.

so if u use a DX lens on an FX sensor...that's like having a small window that cannot let enough light to cover the whole FX sensor area. only the middle part can get light, the outer sides cannot. so an FX camera would crop / remove these unused areas at the side, else u end up with black borders around ur photo.

using FX lens on DX sensor is fine...the big window can still cover the small sensor area smile.gif

now about let's talk about crop factor.

say u have a FX lens + FX camera, and u take a photo of 3 people standing side by side. u'll get a photo of 3 people.

now use the same FX lens on DX camera, take the photo from the same position and u may get a photo with only the middle person. the FX lens still 'sends' a photo of 3 people, but since the DX sensor is smaller, only the image of the middle person falls onto the small sensor. the sensor simply doesnt have any space to receive the image of the other two people standing at the sides. so the 'outer part' of the image actually gets removed / cropped out...which looks like u're zooming in when u're not.
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post Nov 30 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(tongweng @ Nov 29 2012, 11:15 PM)
Please allow me call u sifu...haha now i have better understanding on that already. but have to practice to know more about that XD
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im definitely not sifu haha. actually no need to practice one la this stuff. focus on shooting, not on camera toys tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(tongweng @ Dec 3 2012, 09:48 PM)
i was thinking to increase the iso also...but i dunno how to change the exposure things with my d7000 cause i still new to dslr photo shooting XD..
my friend suggest me to take as low iso as possible to prevent noise
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go slap your friend tongue.gif u're using a D7000. part of the money you spent goes to that impressive sensor that can still perform well at high ISOs.

it's true that if ISO is too high, ull get noise. but dont be afraid to push it up. even at 6400 it should be fairly good. the good thing about increasing ISO is there isn't any significant side effects (up to a certain point of course). if u try to increase exposure by increasing shutter speed, ull get motion blur. increasing aperture is limited by ur kit lens, but even then (especially for macro) ur DOF would be too thin.

tl;dr, better to have noisy photos compared to motion blur / DOF too shallow
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post Dec 4 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Dec 3 2012, 11:19 PM)
yup smile.gif but when i fine tuned the middle point really good, then subject within 1meter will be perfect, but further than that will be out of focus. read this somewhere someone had the same prob. nikon did claim that the D800/E's sensor is very demanding. i mean, look at the quality it can give la tongue.gif so superb!
why need to slap his friend? his friend is right wat? to avoid noise stay at low iso. just dont be afraid la. no need slap2 people ma smile.gif
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stay at low ISO is correct. staying at 'lowest possible ISO' is not haha. why shoot ISO 200 and risk blurry shots, rather than higher ISO with minimal noise and getting sharp sharp photos smile.gif so i would say, stay at the highest possible ISO (if there's a lot of motion, or shooting in dark/dim places)...'highest' being the point just before where noise gets too ugly.

IMHO the main use of aperture is to control the DOF, not really for exposure. fastest shutter speed is almost always preferable XD
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post Dec 7 2012, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Dec 7 2012, 06:42 PM)
i bought it at digital mall, seksyen 14 PJ, the first shop on the left at the entrance smile.gif

not lecturing la bro tongue.gif just giving some of my thoughts oni..feel free to disagree smile.gif

because i have a fren who bought the canon 5d mark 3, his photos = like been taken with a guy who doesnt know photography, uses auto mode all the time. i mean like, seriously needed attention. most of the time, worries about noise, things that is unnecessary. one can buy equipment, loads of expensive equipments, but we can never buy experience.

like i said when i first started i was obsessed with noise, large lenses, large sensors, equipments, but my photos? blehhhhhhhh sweat.gifĀ  doh.gif

so i wud suggest concentrate more on creating that next great photo smile.gif
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highly agree thumbup.gif in dark areas / fast moving subjects...we always have to accept one of these things:
1) increased noise due to high ISO
2) shallow depth of field due to high aperture
3) motion blur due to slow shutter speed

(2) and (3) would easily spoil an otherwise great photo. so (1) isn't too bad tongue.gif if the noise is really really bad...convert to black and white lo, kawtim tongue.gif

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post Dec 9 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Dec 8 2012, 11:54 PM)
I just got my 50mm f1.8D today. Are the portrait lens (prime lens) doesn't have VR function? vibration would cause so much blur on the prime lens

Darn, how to solve my shaky hands? sad.gif
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maybe it was assumed that prime lenses are fast enough that u we dont need VR tongue.gif it does keep the price down i guess
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post Dec 14 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(oldpistol @ Dec 14 2012, 03:51 PM)
Nikon af-s 50mm f1.8g lens can use on D3100?
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yes. all AF-S can be used on D3100

QUOTE(Spoodo @ Dec 14 2012, 03:53 PM)
Yes it can. All G lenses can be used on a D3100 as it has a build in focus motor in the lenses itself. D lenses can't be used as it requires the screw drive motor which the D3100/3200 & D5100 lacks.
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not really... not all G lenses are AF-S. i thought like that too until i saw a G lens which is just AF not AF-S. forgot which one
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Dec 15 2012, 09:04 PM)
P7100? Not even in the picture?
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not in the picture. you can assume all of us in this thread prefers nikon DSLRs to other brands, but it doesnt mean we prefer everything nikon

i think nikon compact cameras are inferior compared to others. i agree with Calvin Seak; those 3 he listed are the best cameras for their respective price range IMO. none of them are superzooms though...

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Dec 16 2012, 02:21 AM)
Is a superzoom a better deal compared to a high-end compact in terms of photo quality? Some of my pals told me that the large zoom comes at the expense of photo quality cuz you can't have the best of both worlds for a compact.
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yes that's pretty much the case. why the good compacts are expensive is because of the slightly bigger sensor. bigger sensor needs bigger lens. if u want that lens to be a superzoom, i guess it would need to be even bigger and you wont end up with a compact anymore ;P
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QUOTE(teetaatee @ Jan 13 2013, 04:57 PM)
shootted my fren's suzuki last 2 months
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more here https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...29673104&type=3

C&C welcome biggrin.gif
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I love the colours! biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Jan 13 2013, 06:02 PM)
A portrait shot from me.........!! CnC please because i'm still new to portraits...... icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

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Fishing by Pro3363, on Flickr
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too grainy. as teetaatee said, maybe ISO 800 would be much better. i think the person takes too much space in the shot
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Jan 15 2013, 07:58 PM)
cant afford for 2 lens XD either 35mm or 50mm @_@ hows ur 35mm? ur using DX or FX?
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go for 35mm for DX biggrin.gif very good all rounder hehe

i want to ask, i'm looking for a sb700. is it a bad idea to buy an old ~2 years flashgun or better just buy brand new?
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follow up to my post about second hand SB700.. decided not to get 2nd hand because dont know how to judge the lifespan

anyway hope u guys can clear out my dilemma here. im going to cover a wedding in a months time. my current gear is D40, 35/1.8G, 85/1.8G, no flashgun. im deciding to get either a used D90 or a new SB700.

case for D90: better IQ generally, higher fps, can command off-camera SB800 (lend from friend). i dont *really* need the built-on motor but that's just a bonus for future lah.

case for SB700: as mentioned, my friend will lend me a SB800 a day b4 the wedding itself. i never used a flashgun before. i've read and watched videos a lot and i feel i understand the theory (bounce, balancing flash and ambient etc) but im not sure i can use the flash effectively with no 'training period'. thus getting my own SB700 earlier i can train first

right now i can only afford either one. which one to get (or dont get either)? please advise :S
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jan 16 2013, 08:40 AM)
get the camera..

sb800 you can test on the day itself. camera you better familiar with the controls
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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Jan 16 2013, 10:55 AM)
+1

Good luck bro!
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thanks both of you. D90 it is smile.gif hopefully i'll get up to speed with the SB800 haha
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 17 2013, 04:10 PM)
i duno unboxing video for what, but one thing i should watch when unboxing a phone so can check the accessories got missing or not lol tongue.gif
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exactly! tongue.gif this is the only reason i watch unboxing videos haha.
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post Jan 18 2013, 11:03 PM

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just got myself a used D90!!! biggrin.gif *slowpoke*

damnn so many new functions compared to my D40. lots to learn.

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