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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.18, D5200 announced, what next? D400?

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post Nov 23 2012, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(slowkancil @ Nov 23 2012, 05:07 PM)
my prev nikon d700 suffer from hotshoe problem...
also last night got chance to test my d600..
ya.. got 1 tiny dust.. gone after using blower to clean..

for me 2 event + ruthless changing lens with around 2k exposure..
and just got 1 tiny dust is minor problem...
(maybe before the event i go to midvalley to do sensor clean have some effect)
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thanks for reminding me. ya i had one D700 with hot shoe problem as well. but mine occurred after 2years of heavy usage. so to me that;s quite reasonable. not right after i purchase it laugh.gif

actually, about the sensor dusts leak problem on the D600, its not that major..i mean, on my copy, i test it, the dusts' really visible after f8 and beyond..and i dont really go beyond f4..and the image quality it gives, is really really good. (saying this is denial)

but thinking about the money spent to purchase it, and the effort to clean the sensor, its just not worth it. studio shooting with a plain background will make the dusts more visible.

it gives superb image quality, just the sensor problem really bites me laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2012, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(slowkancil @ Nov 25 2012, 04:39 PM)
anybody know shop that sell third party BG for d600?
now on e-bay got 2-3 seller...

http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Battery-Grip-Ni...=item2325132665

oh.. d600 price drop again... lowest is rm5800..
hope by next year will reach the rm5200-5400..
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if next year will reach 5k mark n the flaws is repaired, then im buying another one! laugh.gif

BTW bro, kenapa mau 3rd party? ur using a FF body already..get the ori 1 lah..later u buy 3rd party, lama2 u still want the ori 1..so better buy ori straight thumbup.gif

i got a 3rd party grip for my D7000 last time, really not nice compared to the ori..so im guessing others oso will same2 tongue.gif
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post Nov 29 2012, 11:09 PM

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any news on the D600 getting fixed? read this somewhere and i thought it was a great news, but seems like nobody believes that guy sweat.gif

QUOTE(KTCY @ Nov 29 2012, 03:43 PM)
Is a good lens. Sharp thru out the range brows.gif
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and got a really good macro mode too brows.gif

eh bro, any news from ur shop about the D600 oil dusts issues ah?
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post Nov 30 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Nov 30 2012, 12:34 PM)
Nope bro ! still the same. New set stil have dust in it after like 20-30 photos.
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walao i tot repaired edi laugh.gif
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post Dec 1 2012, 02:59 PM

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it seems that nikon msia can fix the D800's AF issues edi! thumbup.gif

sos cili

and the price of the D800 is decreasing as well, looks like a good time for those who wants to get 1 tongue.gif
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post Dec 1 2012, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 1 2012, 03:46 PM)
This news quite sometime already I think... I'm thinking of sending in mine perhaps... sad.gif seems to have issue with the 35mm.
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oh well..im a slowpoke sad.gif


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post Dec 3 2012, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 3 2012, 05:18 PM)
Just got a reply from Nikon on my D800 AF issue, seems like they are aware of this issue actually. I called them up to see if I squeeze it to be done in a day but guess now sad.gif Need 3-4 days for this to be done. Haih.
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ok la 3~4 days..last time i called they said needed 2weeks oni can get reply sweat.gif

send urs quick2 and let us know the results! tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(tongweng @ Dec 3 2012, 09:48 PM)
i was thinking to increase the iso also...but i dunno how to change the exposure things with my d7000 cause i still new to dslr photo shooting XD..
my friend suggest me to take as low iso as possible to prevent noise
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bro, learn the basics first. actually the basics = logic. very very easy to learn.

ISO, shutter speed, aperture. master these things first then get into the other stuffs. do u have a fren who can teach u? looks like u do. learn with ur fren, shooting is fun, really fun! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 3 2012, 10:22 PM)
Alright, D800 and D800E owners best to check your unit for AF issue! I verified my D800 + another D800 + another D800E just now... all affected with left AF.
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mine last time left and also middle sweat.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 3 2012, 10:57 PM)
Sounds like your right having issue instead if you AF fine tune to center tongue.gif left and center back focus... then right good?
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yup smile.gif but when i fine tuned the middle point really good, then subject within 1meter will be perfect, but further than that will be out of focus. read this somewhere someone had the same prob. nikon did claim that the D800/E's sensor is very demanding. i mean, look at the quality it can give la tongue.gif so superb!

QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Dec 3 2012, 10:59 PM)
go slap your friend tongue.gif u're using a D7000. part of the money you spent goes to that impressive sensor that can still perform well at high ISOs.

it's true that if ISO is too high, ull get noise. but dont be afraid to push it up. even at 6400 it should be fairly good. the good thing about increasing ISO is there isn't any significant side effects (up to a certain point of course). if u try to increase exposure by increasing shutter speed, ull get motion blur. increasing aperture is limited by ur kit lens, but even then (especially for macro) ur DOF would be too thin.

tl;dr, better to have noisy photos compared to motion blur / DOF too shallow
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why need to slap his friend? his friend is right wat? to avoid noise stay at low iso. just dont be afraid la. no need slap2 people ma smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2012, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 4 2012, 09:57 PM)
So I got a little paranoid and started testing my D800 once again... just to confirm if its really having issues or not cause I was getting mixed results when handheld.. but once on tripod and used timer for trigger it seems like yes got issue sad.gif

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me tried handheld, live view (so far all my live view results sooooooooooooo damn sharp), and tripod. seems that middle point oso got issues..aiya laugh.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 4 2012, 11:25 PM)
FF for shooting at Sepang? You need a telephoto lens for sure... 70-300mm range at least.
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he's aiming the D600

D600 DX mode still got 10.5MP sifuuuu.. tongue.gif still no problem leh laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 5 2012, 07:54 AM)
Again, did you do any micro adjust on the lens? My 35mm required about -8 micro adjust as well else all of them would be blur! Then again when I tried my 35mm on 2 other D800, it had different offset value.. one is -15 another is -3 only.
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yes i did, it needed -20 on my 50mm 1.8G, (n still is not that sharp..im thinking it needed more than that), my 14-24 is also affected n needed -10, and we're talking all middle points. guess my copy is that bad huh? having to change lens and change on the micro adjustments sucks big time. not only that, when im using the fifty, subject further than 1m/2m away seems to be in focus without micro adjustments. sometimes that is! warghhhh

having the super resolution might be an advantage as i post some pics on my fb - resize it and the misfocus is not so visible. but knowing the fact that its not properly focused really bothers me alot sad.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 5 2012, 09:01 AM)
Unfortunately the D600 price dropped even faster than D800... I guess moral of the story do not be early adopters? Wait at least 6months to 1 year I guess...
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i think not 6 months, maybe one really needs to wait..maybe a year or so? buying a 2-year-old D3s/D700 body now sometimes will get u no problems. i have bought 3 x D700, 2 x D3, 2 x D3s, and ALL of them seems to have perfect focusing, no other problems. (not mine ah, this all help fren buy tongue.gif)

and i've bought a D600 and a D800 brand new..both of em got probs sad.gif

eh bro, i thot D700 came out with the price range of RM6.8k~7.2k? why cheaper than the D600? correct me if im wrong ya smile.gif

QUOTE(MrAkay @ Dec 5 2012, 10:50 AM)
I think Nikon will never ever make another d700 type body since we all know what happen to D3 right? at the end of the day, profits still matter no?

but im still hoping they make a d800s, sort of like a baby d4 but i think pigs will fly when that happens. doesnt hurt to hope though haha smile.gif
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haha good point! thumbup.gif

nikon got their equipments in line real good now. if u want the D4 sensor, then u have to buy the D4. if the D800 is too much and the D600 is flawed...guess one will hav to opt the D700 for a cheap FF solution then laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2012, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(MrAkay @ Dec 5 2012, 12:03 PM)
but but.. i want video capabilities  icon_question.gif
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then u need to wait nikon repair the flaws on D600 n D800 la tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2012, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 5 2012, 01:12 PM)
But you're telling me your center AF is having issue?  hmm.gif
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yes sir

QUOTE(razuryza @ Dec 5 2012, 07:44 PM)
^ go shoot something interesting please
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i have to agree with razu laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2012, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 5 2012, 08:11 PM)
But you said already calibrated 'correctly'? Or the range +20 to -20 is not sufficient for your calibration?
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not sufficient, and this is sometimes a prob when the subject is far.
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post Dec 5 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 5 2012, 08:20 PM)
I guess that's not an issue with the center AF, but most likely the AF module is totally offset...
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its really frustrating, first because i paid alot for this. 2nd is sometimes its in focus, sometimes its not. mostly far subjects dont really need the AF fine tune, but for subjects closer than 1 meter, it needs more than -20 sweat.gif

and to make it worse, i thot it was the lens. so i mounted it on my D3 and everything is is super sharp focus sad.gif

have u send urs in buddy?
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post Dec 5 2012, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 5 2012, 08:54 PM)
Not yet, I don't stay in KL so gotta wait till the weekend before I can send it in sad.gif need to travel all the way to KL for this. I know when focusing far away even my D700 has issues at times, but close up my D800 is still alright only the left hand AF consistently back focus as per the results I have shared, totally no issues with center or right.

I'm thinking your unit has major offset in terms of AF... you probably need something like "-30" perhaps? which is why your left AF is 'in focus' while both the rest is out of focus?
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i dont really use my left or outer focusing points. but when this issue raises i did tried mine. yes probably -30.

btw have u tried Live View Autofocusing? with LV AF, its gonna be super sharp.

that's how i know my middle point is not good enuf. with no AF fine tune, with -20 AF fine tune, both seems to hav misfocus probs, its better with the -20, but with LV AF, its damn sharp. we're talking middle points btw

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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Dec 7 2012, 12:29 AM)
Standard price la....too bad the uncle face was blocked by his hand... a little bit of noise?
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dun worry abt noise la..noise is nothing.. u really pixel peep ah? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Dec 7 2012, 09:42 AM)
Haha, no la. I was being told that reduce the noise as much as possible lo in photography. I am still newbie too....

Oh ya, wanted to buy your 50mm last time so much sad.gif
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ya, reducing noise is good, but capturing moments sometimes needed higher shutter speeds > higher iso > noise. but will it be that visible? when i first started in photography, i was VERY particular about noise. it makes me stupid laugh.gif as i moved on, i realized that noise's not that crucial unless ur doing commercial/mag/watever that requires the highest level of image quality kind of photography. there's still alot of people wandering on the streets using film and analog. do they care about the grain? not so..because if they do, they'd get a D3s or a D4 laugh.gif

if ur shooting events, street, watever type of photography that u cant control the situation, dont be afraid of noise. if the moment is there, then the pictures is good with or without noise.

the picture u said about the noise, i dont notice it in first glance. even after u say it, i took a look again, and i really dont really see such VISIBLE noise. so it looks to me that ur not analyzing the picture, ur analyzing the noise level.

stop obsessing about noise because it somewhat dont really help on improving ur photography. start learning composition, lighting, handling..bla bla

and about the lens, i sell my stuffs cheap2 tongue.gif so if u wan, nid to sms me fast2 n set a time to meet up smile.gif sorry ya
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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Dec 7 2012, 04:45 PM)
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I am not sure whether that is pixels or noise that why I put a question mark at the behind  unsure.gif

That time I have limited budget if not I sure deal with you already ><

Any nice place to buy 50mm ah?

Thanks for lecturing  wink.gif
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i bought it at digital mall, seksyen 14 PJ, the first shop on the left at the entrance smile.gif

not lecturing la bro tongue.gif just giving some of my thoughts oni..feel free to disagree smile.gif

because i have a fren who bought the canon 5d mark 3, his photos = like been taken with a guy who doesnt know photography, uses auto mode all the time. i mean like, seriously needed attention. most of the time, worries about noise, things that is unnecessary. one can buy equipment, loads of expensive equipments, but we can never buy experience.

like i said when i first started i was obsessed with noise, large lenses, large sensors, equipments, but my photos? blehhhhhhhh sweat.gif doh.gif

so i wud suggest concentrate more on creating that next great photo smile.gif
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QUOTE(MrAkay @ Dec 9 2012, 12:12 AM)
I bet ur ears & eyes had a good time today biggrin.gif

For me, this happened today
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post more pics man!

i got a sanding event tomorrow too, expect photos from me! tongue.gif

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