Yes, Saffron charged RM0.39psf if not wrong

Not sure about Centrio.

Their monthly property management fee is RM10k if not mistaken and cannot be reduced. That was the figure told to me 3 years ago to manage Saffron.

personally, after staying in capers for just few months, I am already looking out. Mkt is soft and selling is not an easy while rental yield is also low with such high maintenance charges.

for investors who own few units and hoping to buy more of fennel to flip...good luck.

for own-stay, you have to think twice as there are lots of adjustments that you need to make and accept. I guess u hv to stay to discover.

What minolta mentioned on the flooding and lift out of service is true and I am one of the victim who needs to climb the stairs. Imagine a new building with a burst pipe that caused flooding? Until today, only one lift is working and u know the hassle.

Another example, imagine if u r in the gym and when it pours outside, u r stuck and not able to walk back to your unit without walking in the rain. Again, answer given is the open concept design. Well, it is up to individual to judge on this.

The water features all around are breeding ground for mosquitos and u know how many times fogging has happened? But the root cause are not addressed.

Well, i an writing just to share to those who wanted to buy for own-stay just need to consider and think harder as it is not easy to dispose and you may need to stuck with it for a long time.

Good luck and keep up the good posting...

@algo, thanks for sharing. Those are valid points. Although i dont stay in capers, i do get updates on issues through the owners facebook group, which is very well managed by nicky.  I noticed from the group, the owners are very professional and happening people

In many ytl projects, especially midfields, there were many defects after VP (this also apply to many other developers). This is also happening in Capers and i would expect Fennel too. But i find ytl is willing to make good the defects although they are slow.

As for design, ytl try to be architecturally different, normally very nice but in some areas not practical.  I believe they try to improve fennel in areas where capers is lacking eg. lobby with bubble lifts (lobby doesnt exist in capers), sky terrace are double volume, 2 bridge pools 50m etc.

The main concern i have for fennel is density with 900+ units. Now with dual key concept, 'density' may increase further.

Nevertheless, from investor perspective, over the years ytl projects have provided very good returns and this could be one reason why some owners are quite forgiving in terms quality and defects.

Whoever intends to buy fennel, i would suggest to visit capers first to get a feel of the design, quality, environment. You may or may not like it but at least you get to see similar product before you decide.

hi Nicky, since u hv moved in and my guess is that you are one of the happy ones. Good for you.

I am posting here is to highlight to those who are thinking or wish to buy fennel for investment or own stay to be aware of what are the considerations as YTL is certainly not a responsible nor would they think for you as their loyal customer. If they had, things will be very different.

If you have units in tamarind, saffron, maple or hv frens there...check with them as they are all from the same developer and management company. Same goes with Fennel too.

as community, we shd all share the relevant facts so that ppl can judge for themselves and we as investors, owners, etc shd be aware...

good luck.

I post a reply to you in anticipation that the wannabes that have never even been to Capers are monitoring this thread

Your highlighted "issues" are certainly valid with Capers. But how is it that YTL is not responsible? Did they not repair the problems (ie leaking) as soon "as they can"? or Do you think they deliberately tried to delay the repair of lift issue? Or do you think they used subquality material in the construction that resulted in the leaks? Or that they did not anticipate for the landscaping that attract mosquitoes?

I can confirm that what you have said are true. You're obviously a true insider, and obvious which block you're staying in. But just to clarify few points: -

1. This is strata property with many owners sharing common property. JMB means all owner can vote on issues. Eg simple thing like installing pipe to wash car.....some owners may want it, others may not. Majority rules. This is a common practise with all new handover strata properties. The current management is caretaker till JMB, after which if the JMB decides they want another manahement company, they can also vote on it.

2. True. Most management office are open 1/2 day Saturday.

3. This was by request of many owners. Management allowed this temporary till more people move in.

4. Can change lah. Be patient. Eg Midfields.

As for fixing a leak, it depends on the cause of the leak. Before we assign blame, lets understand the issue first. Where was the leak from? Who or what caused the leak? Was it YTL's responsibility, the Contractor/SubCon's responsibility, the management's responsibility or the individual owner or owner's appointed contractor's responsibility.
Just like why the lifts not fixed yet. Who's responsibility? Lift provider or developer or management?

There was a big hoohaa a few weeks ago when one owner complained got leak from his ceiling. One unit from your block. As usual, blamed developer. Turned out was unit upstairs doing reno causing damage and leak.

Final Block C is expected to launch next week with price from 700psf.

In block A,B and D and Capers, the entrance foyer space was not added into the builtup sq ft. It seems for block C, they are adding this (which is really large depending on which level) into overall builtup, meaning the price RM/sf still look reasonable

I went past Fennel today and saw the pool under construction...its not conceptual, ytl is really building the floating pool..50m hanging from blk b to c (and blk a to d)