You wanted to know about the reviews as you intend to buy block B/C, am I right? Early morning ,lotsa car in front of Capers-Saffron but mostly at moving condition. Depending on where you work, You have three choice, either take Sentul Link to Mahameru, or Jalan Sentul to Jalan Tun Razak/Chow Kit. Another alternative road is go straight to Jalan Ipoh without taking Sentul Link which can connect to Chow Kit/Jalan Tun Razak. Though Jalan Ipoh is jam sometimes.

After work, I normally take Sentul Link. Straight fly down and you can see cars stucks trying to go to J.Sentul (towards Sentul Pasar direction). Four lanes squeeze into two lanes and lotsa ppl trying to cut queue. Jam could be 10-15 mins.  I'm not sure where is the Fennel gate facing, hopefully not J.Sentul. Even if in J.Sentul, we can always keep to the right and U-turn. Max time I estimate is 5-10 minutes for this section.
If you are buying for own stay, Sentul hasn't fully develop yet. There are no mixed development and very little choice of foodstalls to eat. I have been staying there fore 6 years and dinner always go to the same few places. Of course you can have dinner elsewhere. Sentul Bouvelard considered the the more 'up' place oredi. Though only got mamak and one foodstalls. But got KFC, pizza hut , and lotsa clinic. Also got famous 'pirated' Lau Heong Restaurant.

For me the main attraction is the Fennel design, the price (higher price means higher quality people) and the location. I'm waiting for it to develop. But even based on existing condition, I have no regret buying my Fennel. I may be paying premium price today, but definitely I can't enjoy this price 5 years down the road.

Block C (facing Capers) would be closer to LRT track and if you take a stroll at night, you can hear the noisy LRT. Maybe you will hear it if you are in the pool but I think based on the facing, the noise shouldn't affect the residents at night.  Block B will not have any KLCC view. Selected units of Block C (closers to LRT track) can see KLCC . Premium price I guess.

I did another detailed drive around the area. The Sentul Timur STAR LRT station is about 700m away from Fennel. So its not really walking distance. But the low cost flats and medium cost apartments near the station are a real eyesore. Despite the iconic design of Capers and Fennel, its gonna be a long time before this area of Sentul can even come close to areas like Mont Kiara. I would say easily 20 years or so. Besides these few YTL condos, the surrounding areas are absolutely lacking in the credible retail establishments.

Despite the 2 LRT stations and the Komuter station nearby, its not gonna be enough to boost this area in the near future. Yes it helps for sure but at this price range, it will be quite difficult for Fennel buyers to get a credible pool of renters once completed. Even for own stay it will be tough considering the surrounding ammenities. Maybe in 10 years it would be quite different but surely not within the next 4 years.

I would give this area a miss. Many more better investment opportunities elsewhere around KL.

I also agree RM650psf for such iconic buidling is really 
Ok i posted about speculators number and looks like mostly are really buying to flip but I am sure many of them has holding power and would love to stay in such iconic building until they found someone willing to pay the price.
I would like to compare another YTL masterpiece with this is the forgotten Centrio.
It also very iconic and of cos price doubled after it was completed. But since then price has not been moving after that and there are difficulty in finding tenants as well.
Can we compare this again Centrio and what is your view ?
I think iconic is great but there is a limit and after some time, people still say location.
AFAIK, i dont see any property investment advise that says go for iconic building or have i missed out ?

Most properties in Klang Valley doubled or even tripled since 2009. But using this as a benchmark to confirm similar increases for future properties is foolhardy and clearly wrong. 2007 - 2011 was the bumper years for property investors. Many became millionaires. From 2011 however the story has begun to change. Property appreciation percentages have already started to drop. Occupancy rates are also dropping together with lower rental yields. Take a drive around MK at night and ull see yourself.

We must all be smart investors and learn to differentiate the 'developer talk' from reality. Most of us here have become so convinced by these smooth talking developers during property fairs and property launches that we have learnt to accept everything they say as gospel truth. Even the Gov is playing down the actual condition of the Malaysian economy. Its common knowledge that the Gov and these developers are in cohorts with each other to boost property prices and increase spending. But now the Gov is beginning to slowly realise that they have overdone it. Thats why BNM is shaking now.

Never follow the herd mentality. It will get you burnt.

Watching pop corn here
Buy tan&tan not bad actually

Back in 2010, I asked the same question about the BBB mode then. Looks like it has been sustaining till today...

Really mk dropping? I here every day wo

BBBB MODE. Everyone will rush to buy.

I can...charge by hour

Start paying after handing over??? RM 30k, and then after that, no more payment?? don't need to fulfill the remaining 20% or 30% down payment (considering if it's 80 or 70% loan that's been assigned to you)???

Pros of the fennel : Iconic design, world class facilities, MRT????? last batch of DIBS but probably dev will come up with something else next year.

Cons: 900+ units, ultra high dense, no mrt, target tenants vague????

any more inputs????

well it is one of the most connected location in KL actually. plus it has the advantage of 2 existing star lrt stations, ktm, direct access to mrr1, duke, jln tun razak, jln ipoh.

not some wannabe location. the closest we can compare is by looking at saffron and tamarind. though i reckon when capers and especially fennel completed, it will cannibalised the rental market for saff n tamrind.   

this project seems more solid than others which offering crazy prices at obscure locations   

Do remember that a good yardstick that we can use to determine if our property prices are sustainable or otherwise is the gross rental yield. Generally, rental yields of between 4-5% mean that the property is overpriced while yields of 6-7% mean that the property is fairly priced.

So when rental yields start dropping below 6%, that usually means that we're heading towards an unsustainable level and investors should practice extreme caution when investing. Most rental yields now are around the 4% range which is actually dangerous.

So always practice prudence before investing. Appreciation of the last 4 years should never be taken as Gospel truth for future capital appreciation. We are at the tail end of the property boom and nobody knows how long the next slump is gonna be.

Nothing to do with fairness. Its solely done to create the euphoria and boost the overall image of the development. Its to create a herd mentality that will be talked about for time to come. Its the word of mouth that sells in the property world. YTL has created this and even developers like EcoWorld & SP Setia have followed suit. This allows developers to make a killing and create a platform to launch their future developments.

Have you noticed a trend? The projects which required such sale build-ups and euphoria were always those which were priced above the subsale market of that area. Can you show me a development which was launched with such fanfare at prices which were reasonable and affordable in accordance with the vicinity? I don't recall any.

Either way, whether this euphoria will result in good future capital appreciation upon VP is another matter altogether. In fact, if you do some research you will see that developments which were launched without much fanfare have not only achieved the same record sales but also have been real value buys.

Fennel is a good product with a great infrastructure around it but I think YTL have been a bit unscrupulous by creating this herd mentality. They have focused too much on just merely making a sale without concentrating on getting investors with solid financial grounding.

How many of the investors of Fennel 2 can withstand a property slump expected around 2016? Yes Fennel 2 will complete end 2017 but seasoned investors know that recovery from a slump takes about 2-3 years so owners of Fennel 2 will be getting their keys at a point when the market is just about to begin a recovery. How many can hold on to their investments for a year or two without being able to sell or find tenants? On top of that its widely expected that the BLR will go up by 50 basis points in 2014 and a further hike is possible in 2015 if the slump hits. So we're looking at BLR rates of about 7.35%-7.60% by 2016. BLR takes time to come down. This is where the problem begins. Many of the investors in Fennel are not single property owners. Many have multiple properties. These will be hardest hit when interest rates rise and they cant sell / rent. But this problem is not limited to Fennel investors alone. It affects everybody (me included).

As an investor i love to see price to go up. But also cautious tat the economy slow down ll make price stagnant if not go down. Investor mus hav the exit plan rather than keep thinking the price may go up.

This is a very real risk faced by many of the new launches in KV. So its not something that has a high degree of improbability.

Ask yourself this question:
How many of the investors of Fennel have the financial strength to hold on to their properties for at least 2 years upon VP with no option for sale or rent?

Indian cemetery? Looks more like meeting