Sold out means 100% sold. So no such thing as sold out rate. Correct version:

Block B 87% sold as of this afternoon

Funny to see ppl getting excited about paper increases which are always determined by the developer (to line their own pockets) rather than natural market forces. I wonder how much do paper increases mean to a bank in the event of subsale?

Care to elaborate on paper loss? Never heard such a term before.

Im a wannabe eh? Suddenly worried my posts are ruining your business eh?

Don't want to elaborate or do not know how to elaborate? Shot yerself in the foot again I see eh?

Im wrong? First time anybody has said i was wrong in my investments. Please do elaborate how 'wrong' I am. Please do prove me wrong (if u have the facts). Im surely interested to know what 'mistakes' ive made. Or are you gonna hide behind the 'don't care to elaborate' stance again?

The more u accuse others of having ulterior motives, the more apparent it becomes that its you with the ulterior motives here in the Fennel thread. Could this also be the reason why you have been thrashed on some of the other forums?

Such a long post and yet with nothing credible to show after all that? Its funny that you chose to write so much over 2 postings and keep mentioning the word 'nonsense' many times and yet cant tell me why its nonsense?

And I suppose your words in bold above are your way of showing how 'grown up' you are? Is that how u 'process' maturity?

Ure only on this forum? U really sure of that? Im sure u know that u cannot possibly tell such open, blatant lies when there is such a function called 'find member's posts'?

I sense the pressure is getting to you. The more u talk, the more frustrated ure becoming when your lies don't quite work anymore.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 9 2013, 05:34 PM

Still nothing tangible? Still no info? Still cannot show anything credible?

Btw, u still haven't answered my question on are u really sure that this is the ONLY forum ure on? Let me help clear up your lies:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...sult_type=posts

And while ure at it, why don't u share some of your real life investment success stories? Lets see what you have gained (paper or otherwise). Maybe I can learn something from you.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 9 2013, 05:40 PM

yes u are right. I meant thread. My mistake. Now please enlighten me on your investment success stories.

(btw, I think its you who needs help with the language....you have made quite a few errors..English not your main language for sure)

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 9 2013, 05:44 PM

I like the way you taunt him.

Its 'look again' not 'see again'. May I suggest BM as an alternative? And im still waiting for more clarity on the other queries ive raised so far.

U think he will? Im also hoping he will. Can't wait to learn from a person who thinks sooo highly of paper gain. If only he knew which industry im in.......

So if a property slump hits around 2015 and lasts say 2 years before a recovery begins, would buyers still be looking forward to 2017 or is Fennel immune to a slump since its a niche product by YTL and ppl wouldn't mind paying say RM 900psf then?

Also while ure on this topic, care to tell me how many multiple phase new launch projects in KV did not enjoy a paper gain when subsequent blocks were launched? Thus are you implying that all projects which enjoyed good paper gain will also enjoy very healthy capital appreciation upon VP and buyers would be lining up to purchase subsale units from initial investors solely based on this 'paper gain' theory?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 10 2013, 04:30 PM

Anyway, based on this 'paper gain' theory, investors in Phase 1 of Tropicana Gardens, Kota Damansara have much more to cheer in the future. The launch price difference between Phase 1 and Phase 2 was about 50%. Phase 2 was about RM 1,100 psf.

So assuming that the project takes 4 years to complete, Phase 2 buyers of TG would be anticipating at least a 50% capital increase upon VP. We would be seeing ppl lining up to buy 597sf studio units for RM985K (starting price) or RM 1,650psf. The bigger 1573sf units would probably be going for RM1,500 psf or close to RM2.4mil.

And all this in Kota Damansara. Perfect logic eh?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 10 2013, 04:30 PM

This is why I say ure a complete fool. U don't even have the command of the English language to understand what I meant. Only a fool like u would completely misunderstand what I said.

1) Why would I sell my properties if there was an impending slump? Slumps only affect those without holding power and I took all that into consideration BEFORE I invested. Only a salesman like u would not plan ahead.

2) My point about all other projects having a paper gain meant that not all these projects would actually appreciate in reality in the subsale market unless the owners are prepared to hold on to their investments well past the slump and into the recovery phase. That's why paper gain can never be used as a yardstick to gauge actual future capital appreciation.

So in summary all projects with multiple phases will usually have paper gain because its determined by the developer not market forces. But the developer has no say in actual future capital appreciation. That will be determined by market forces at the point of sale.

Take English classes kiddo before you embarrass yerself further. Its clear that you have absolutely no experience in the property market and have surely never experienced a property slump in Malaysia. Its YOU who needs to do some reading before misleading ppl on the forum.

And im still waiting for you to share your success stories in property investment. Its alright to say you have none you know?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 11 2013, 12:33 AM

Nah u used to but not anymore. U know that uve been outgunned by our more learned members. Even on other threads you have been thrashed and you have no counter except childish retorts. Till now u have not displayed any concrete arguments or facts of the matter in any of your statements above. Only blind investors will not see through your salesman tactics here.

But you can be sure that everywhere you spread your lies, I will be there to bring clarity. Lets see how well your business prospers in LYN from now onwards. I just love thrashing liars.

Still no facts ah? Still no concrete argument ah? YAWN!

I disappeared because I got banged? Please post all the threads for everyone to see how badly I got banged. Lets see what you have yea.

And also list down all the forumers who made mince meat of my discussions. I really wanna know who those intelligent beings are.

And yes I am still waiting for something credible from you and till now you have refused to even list some of your property success stories.

Lets see if YOU can back up your arguments with the info above. And try not to resort to the same old childish torts of 'google yourself'.....and im still waiting for your expert analysis on 'paperloss'. Only a fool like you will not understand what I meant when I said it was the first time I heard of such a thing. (any fool will know that paper loss is the opposite of paper gain).

Such poor English. Getting frustrated eh?

Aiyoo! Its DIFFERENTIATE la not DIFFERENT! Did I not tell you to stick to Bahasa? Im sure salesmen are taught to communicate in a few languages rite?

Anyway, still no facts from you eh? Still beating around the bush eh? Still running around like a headless chicken eh? Still no guts to fight facts with facts eh?

Ive got my popcorn ready kiddo.

Still trying to divert attention away from your lack of substance postings? Still no credible arguments? Still beating around the bush?

Im waiting........

Still trying to divert attention away from your lack of substance postings? Still no credible arguments? Still beating around the bush?

Im waiting........

Still waiting for:

1) the list of threads where I got banged so badly that I had to leave LYN
2) The list of forumers who banged me so badly till I had to leave LYN
3) Your own property investment success stories

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 11 2013, 01:05 AM

Still trying to divert attention away from your lack of substance postings? Still no credible arguments? Still beating around the bush?

Still waiting for:

1) the list of threads where I got banged so badly that I had to leave LYN
2) The list of forumers who banged me so badly till I had to leave LYN
3) Your own property investment success stories