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post Jul 30 2013, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(CASSA @ Jul 30 2013, 10:30 PM)
Hihi, i am newbie here. Tai kor Tai che, needs guidance ya. I was at the fennel. Sister past YTL purchaser and diehard fans but bullets all finis so ask me go looksy looksy. Mana tahu, the q and units all sold like hot cakes for blk a and d.. Now looking for reviews of blk b and c.

I think at least 700-750psf minimum. Buy design, convenience and future. Looks like sentul not that congested...yet?
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You wanted to know about the reviews as you intend to buy block B/C, am I right? Early morning ,lotsa car in front of Capers-Saffron but mostly at moving condition. Depending on where you work, You have three choice, either take Sentul Link to Mahameru, or Jalan Sentul to Jalan Tun Razak/Chow Kit. Another alternative road is go straight to Jalan Ipoh without taking Sentul Link which can connect to Chow Kit/Jalan Tun Razak. Though Jalan Ipoh is jam sometimes.

After work, I normally take Sentul Link. Straight fly down and you can see cars stucks trying to go to J.Sentul (towards Sentul Pasar direction). Four lanes squeeze into two lanes and lotsa ppl trying to cut queue. Jam could be 10-15 mins. I'm not sure where is the Fennel gate facing, hopefully not J.Sentul. Even if in J.Sentul, we can always keep to the right and U-turn. Max time I estimate is 5-10 minutes for this section.


If you are buying for own stay, Sentul hasn't fully develop yet. There are no mixed development and very little choice of foodstalls to eat. I have been staying there fore 6 years and dinner always go to the same few places. Of course you can have dinner elsewhere. Sentul Bouvelard considered the the more 'up' place oredi. Though only got mamak and one foodstalls. But got KFC, pizza hut , and lotsa clinic. Also got famous 'pirated' Lau Heong Restaurant.

For me the main attraction is the Fennel design, the price (higher price means higher quality people) and the location. I'm waiting for it to develop. But even based on existing condition, I have no regret buying my Fennel. I may be paying premium price today, but definitely I can't enjoy this price 5 years down the road.

Block C (facing Capers) would be closer to LRT track and if you take a stroll at night, you can hear the noisy LRT. Maybe you will hear it if you are in the pool but I think based on the facing, the noise shouldn't affect the residents at night. Block B will not have any KLCC view. Selected units of Block C (closers to LRT track) can see KLCC . Premium price I guess.

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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 30 2013, 11:39 PM)
You wanted to know about the reviews as you intend to buy block B/C, am I right? Early morning ,lotsa car in front of Capers-Saffron but mostly at moving condition. Depending on where you work, You have three choice, either take Sentul Link to Mahameru, or Jalan Sentul to Jalan Tun Razak/Chow Kit. Another alternative road is go straight to Jalan Ipoh without taking Sentul Link which can connect to Chow Kit/Jalan Tun Razak. Though Jalan Ipoh is jam sometimes.

After work, I normally take Sentul Link. Straight fly down and you can see cars stucks trying to go to J.Sentul (towards Sentul Pasar direction). Four lanes squeeze into two lanes and lotsa ppl trying to cut queue. Jam could be 10-15 mins.  I'm not sure where is the Fennel gate facing, hopefully not J.Sentul. Even if in J.Sentul, we can always keep to the right and U-turn. Max time I estimate is 5-10 minutes for this section.
If you are buying for own stay, Sentul hasn't fully develop yet. There are no mixed development and very little choice of foodstalls to eat. I have been staying there fore 6 years and dinner always go to the same few places. Of course you can have dinner elsewhere. Sentul Bouvelard considered the the more 'up' place oredi. Though only got mamak and one foodstalls. But got KFC, pizza hut , and lotsa clinic. Also got famous 'pirated' Lau Heong Restaurant.

For me the main attraction is the Fennel design, the price (higher price means higher quality people) and the location. I'm waiting for it to develop. But even based on existing condition, I have no regret buying my Fennel. I may be paying premium price today, but definitely I can't enjoy this price 5 years down the road.

Block C (facing Capers) would be closer to LRT track and if you take a stroll at night, you can hear the noisy LRT. Maybe you will hear it if you are in the pool but I think based on the facing, the noise shouldn't affect the residents at night.  Block B will not have any KLCC view. Selected units of Block C (closers to LRT track) can see KLCC . Premium price I guess.
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Thank you for a well written and insightful post. Too often has this topic been bombarded by repetitive questions of "oh, r u dumb to buy?" or "what's ur game plan?" or "there's much better buy elsewhere" from people fantasizing themselves to be property tycoons!:)

Such a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work!
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 30 2013, 11:39 PM)
You wanted to know about the reviews as you intend to buy block B/C, am I right? Early morning ,lotsa car in front of Capers-Saffron but mostly at moving condition. Depending on where you work, You have three choice, either take Sentul Link to Mahameru, or Jalan Sentul to Jalan Tun Razak/Chow Kit. Another alternative road is go straight to Jalan Ipoh without taking Sentul Link which can connect to Chow Kit/Jalan Tun Razak. Though Jalan Ipoh is jam sometimes.

After work, I normally take Sentul Link. Straight fly down and you can see cars stucks trying to go to J.Sentul (towards Sentul Pasar direction). Four lanes squeeze into two lanes and lotsa ppl trying to cut queue. Jam could be 10-15 mins.  I'm not sure where is the Fennel gate facing, hopefully not J.Sentul. Even if in J.Sentul, we can always keep to the right and U-turn. Max time I estimate is 5-10 minutes for this section.
If you are buying for own stay, Sentul hasn't fully develop yet. There are no mixed development and very little choice of foodstalls to eat. I have been staying there fore 6 years and dinner always go to the same few places. Of course you can have dinner elsewhere. Sentul Bouvelard considered the the more 'up' place oredi. Though only got mamak and one foodstalls. But got KFC, pizza hut , and lotsa clinic. Also got famous 'pirated' Lau Heong Restaurant.

For me the main attraction is the Fennel design, the price (higher price means higher quality people) and the location. I'm waiting for it to develop. But even based on existing condition, I have no regret buying my Fennel. I may be paying premium price today, but definitely I can't enjoy this price 5 years down the road.

Block C (facing Capers) would be closer to LRT track and if you take a stroll at night, you can hear the noisy LRT. Maybe you will hear it if you are in the pool but I think based on the facing, the noise shouldn't affect the residents at night.  Block B will not have any KLCC view. Selected units of Block C (closers to LRT track) can see KLCC . Premium price I guess.
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Indeed very comprehensive review. After so much hoo haa and sour grapes etc... I still feel that fennel psf price is a bit out of my expectation as compared to surrounding ytl subsale.

nevertheless, accessibility at sentul east is always better than west side. Fennel should be fine except heavy traffic. Once again people will argue where is not jam in KL?

I almost certainly agree with you that high price (absolute price due to large sqft) truly push the affordability to another level... could potentially filter out another range of undesireable owners... coupled with rental game is not the play in sentul east yet.. this can only say that the buyers are very solid///// perhaps cash rich with holding power (for flippers), for ownstay (saffron and tamarind upgraders).....

So far my observations of ytl sentul (may it be east or west) residents are of desireable type (middle to upper income level who do not wish to stay in high profile area yet wanted to enjoy the vicinity to KLCity).
Lets hope fennel will turn out well also.. good luck to the buyers!
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post Jul 31 2013, 01:26 PM

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will it ever be day where sentul > mont kiara in terms of affluent address?
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:00 PM

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I did another detailed drive around the area. The Sentul Timur STAR LRT station is about 700m away from Fennel. So its not really walking distance. But the low cost flats and medium cost apartments near the station are a real eyesore. Despite the iconic design of Capers and Fennel, its gonna be a long time before this area of Sentul can even come close to areas like Mont Kiara. I would say easily 20 years or so. Besides these few YTL condos, the surrounding areas are absolutely lacking in the credible retail establishments.

Despite the 2 LRT stations and the Komuter station nearby, its not gonna be enough to boost this area in the near future. Yes it helps for sure but at this price range, it will be quite difficult for Fennel buyers to get a credible pool of renters once completed. Even for own stay it will be tough considering the surrounding ammenities. Maybe in 10 years it would be quite different but surely not within the next 4 years.

I would give this area a miss. Many more better investment opportunities elsewhere around KL.
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QUOTE(surf-it @ Jul 31 2013, 01:26 PM)
will it ever be day where sentul > mont kiara in terms of affluent address?
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Put the hsr here got chance if not
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if i were one of the buyers..i will ensure i sell it at subsale just before VP..flip and run to get away from the "tsunami"..close to 970 units thereabout
in the market upon VP ..dont
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post Jul 31 2013, 02:37 PM

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This article should give everybody an indication if Fennel and similarly priced developments in Malaysia will be sustainable long term:

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz2aaSg7UHs



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post Jul 31 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 31 2013, 02:37 PM)
This article should give everybody an indication if Fennel and similarly priced developments in Malaysia will be sustainable long term:

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz2aaSg7UHs
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over-supply?
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post Jul 31 2013, 03:04 PM

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wont be over supply. the matter is cant afford to stay there.
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post Jul 31 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 31 2013, 02:00 PM)
I did another detailed drive around the area. The Sentul Timur STAR LRT station is about 700m away from Fennel. So its not really walking distance. But the low cost flats and medium cost apartments near the station are a real eyesore. Despite the iconic design of Capers and Fennel, its gonna be a long time before this area of Sentul can even come close to areas like Mont Kiara. I would say easily 20 years or so. Besides these few YTL condos, the surrounding areas are absolutely lacking in the credible retail establishments.

Despite the 2 LRT stations and the Komuter station nearby, its not gonna be enough to boost this area in the near future. Yes it helps for sure but at this price range, it will be quite difficult for Fennel buyers to get a credible pool of renters once completed. Even for own stay it will be tough considering the surrounding ammenities. Maybe in 10 years it would be quite different but surely not within the next 4 years.

I would give this area a miss. Many more better investment opportunities elsewhere around KL.
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I believe Sentul will not come close to places such as Mont Kiara and Hartamas, however Fennel has potential as it is one of the last few pieces of prime land close to KL. If you are talking about credible retail establishments, it will take awhile. I have heard plans of developing the land right next to sentul KTM to a hyper market/shopping mall.

I personally have been living in sentul for almost 7 years now and find the location really central to many places like 5 mins to bangsar/hartamas/Damansara Heights and 15 mins to Sunway through NPE.

With YTL buildings, it will slowly beautify the area ? i have seen the changes of this area biggrin.gif and i feel there is potential !

Saffron and Tamarind is already matching fennels per sqft pricing. So yeah.

Just my 2 cents!

nowadays 600-700 per sqft, is there anymore good buys out there ? In KL Area smile.gif

Young people next time How to buy house.
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Now some developer rebate 10 percent.
Difficult to buy meh?
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post Jul 31 2013, 03:40 PM

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can buy, but it pays for generations. your life doesnt worth for being suffered like this.
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ May 27 2013, 05:15 PM)
Soon..
2 LRT
3 MRT, Sentul West-Sang Suria, Sentul East-Opposite Viva, Sentul Timur-Interchange
1 KTM, new station stop at KL Eco City/Mid Valley
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Hi 37,

How u get the news?? R U a property agent there?
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post Jul 31 2013, 09:05 PM

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Hello mkhooi, tq for the comprehensive update. Yes, i intend to buy and stay. I use the lrt station everyday and travelled a fair bit to reach the station so i am going to avoid doing that...just dump all my resources into it and use my other investment hopefully to pay off the expensive mtn fee. I like the design and the park. I dont care about the vicinity so convenience and comfort are my utmost priority. If the price goes up unexpectedly in 4 years time, i can consider to sell. Otherwise i hope to keep and prays i have good neighbours. After saying all that, i hope the price is within reach....and not so far from the first launch.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 31 2013, 02:37 PM)
This article should give everybody an indication if Fennel and similarly priced developments in Malaysia will be sustainable long term:

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz2aaSg7UHs
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Who is the writer? A property tycoon?

The writers profile. https://plus.google.com/app/basic/114029682...source=apppromo

I think u are better
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QUOTE(bryancsk @ Jul 31 2013, 03:11 PM)
nowadays 600-700 per sqft, is there anymore good buys out there ? In KL Area  smile.gif
Fringe of Bukit Jalil near UOG near Taman Yarl got. RM 435 psf.
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BBB! Best area in KL. Will be "better" than MK. Or even KLCC. Will be the next CBD of KL. Fringe of Bukit Jalil! At 435/sf is SO cheap compared to cowfarm Sentul! Infinitely better! Hahaha
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 31 2013, 10:42 PM)
Fringe of Bukit Jalil near UOG near Taman Yarl got. RM 435 psf.
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Z mastersuite is 441psf, Residence 8 released unit is 450 psf.

Both are VP next year, why not consider those?
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QUOTE(surf-it @ Aug 1 2013, 10:07 AM)
Z mastersuite is 441psf, Residence 8 released unit is 450 psf.

Both are VP next year, why not consider those?
Not sure about Residence 8 but the pricing Z Mastersuites are already higher that earlier launch prices rite? Please tell me more. I already bought 2 units at KR2 in Jan this year.

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