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 Subaru XV, RM139.8K? Cheapest new Subaru in town.

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sonic_cd
post Apr 16 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(joker98 @ Apr 16 2013, 05:46 PM)
Well all the 2WD technology to prevent slippage are pretty good, but when going into really poor ground conditions that have no road, those 2WD technology really can't help much. I drove my Forester regularly into construction sites (during early stages) and the AWD really really helped out a lot. Tried driving a X1 RWD into site before...big big mistake. If there was rain the night before....

Anyway..as you said a lot of the buyers don't bother too much about AWD. Similar to what ever platform the car is on.

Females will look at it and like or dislike the looks, comfort, usability, ease of getting on or off, get to see the road from a higher level....etc.

Uncles/Aunties will probably like the nice height for getting onto these CUVs without killing their knees...

So far I have seen a few on the road and the drivers are housewives and uncles.

So at the end of the day, these CUVs/SUVs are indeed priced higher than their siblings because the car makers know there is a market for them. Irregardless of how they reuse a platform from a smaller car. If the market needs/wants it they make it. And I am pretty sure coming up with a whole new platform will drive car costs up and given the competition of car models nowadays, I doubt it would be very wise to redesign from floor up unless something is really wrong with it.
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i resent that , i ain`t a uncle .. XD tongue.gif


anyway back to the car having used it since before cny , the one complaint i have with it is , the gearbox is bit noisy ...

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post Apr 16 2013, 06:41 PM

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ok

between XV and Forester , which one is better ?

from the spec , i will be definitely choose Forester though i have to fork out 20k to get a better SUV
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post Apr 16 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 16 2013, 06:18 PM)
i resent that , i ain`t a uncle .. XD  tongue.gif
anyway back to the car having used it since before cny , the one complaint i have with it is , the gearbox is bit noisy ...
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sonic: No offense. Was just agreeing to sleepwalker and reinforcing the fact that majority of car buyers don't give a damn about many technical details of the car, especially housewife and uncles. But I can see how they can be attracted to cars like ASX and XV.

Also was just stating the fact that I have only indeed seen female and uncle drivers on this car so far. Not to say that it is only a car for uncles and housewifes. I personally like it too. But too bad not enough ommph for me, having driven a Forester 2.5 turbo unit with an upgraded turbo. If this car came with a turbocharged boxer, I would have booked it way back when.

But mind sharing what made you buy this car in the first place? What were the positives of this XV for you?

Kevler: I think you need to test drive both and see for yourself what you need and price of course.
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post Apr 16 2013, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(joker98 @ Apr 16 2013, 11:16 PM)
sonic: No offense. Was just agreeing to sleepwalker and reinforcing the fact that majority of car buyers don't give a damn about many technical details of the car, especially housewife and uncles. But I can see how they can be attracted to cars like ASX and XV.

Also was just stating the fact that I have only indeed seen female and uncle drivers on this car so far. Not to say that it is only a car for uncles and housewifes. I personally like it too. But too bad not enough ommph for me, having driven a Forester 2.5 turbo unit with an upgraded turbo. If this car came with a turbocharged boxer, I would have booked it way back when.

But mind sharing what made you buy this car in the first place? What were the positives of this XV for you?

Kevler: I think you need to test drive both and see for yourself what you need and price of course.
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none taken . XD


pretty sure it can be turbo`ed later on .

as what made me buy the car , well for one

1 engine does not give headaches
2 size , compared to my previous car .
3 4wd...this due to personal preference .
4 parents nagging , one pasal they cannot get into my old car ( too low) , and another being the maintaince/repair on the previous car ..
5 hate the crv shape ,and no new rav4 .. (recon only )
6 the handling is quite good for car that tall .


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post Apr 16 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 16 2013, 11:39 PM)
none taken . XD
pretty sure it can be turbo`ed later on .

as what made me buy the car , well for one

1 engine does not give headaches
2 size , compared to my previous car .
3 4wd...this due to personal preference .
4 parents nagging , one pasal they cannot get into my old car ( too low)  , and another being the maintaince/repair on the previous car ..
5 hate the crv shape ,and no new rav4 .. (recon only )
6 the handling is quite good for car that tall .
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Out of interest, did you not compare to the ASX?
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post Apr 17 2013, 12:00 AM

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Wait till u send it for service....

You'll 'love' it!!!!
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post Apr 17 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(joker98 @ Apr 16 2013, 11:44 PM)
Out of interest, did you not compare to the ASX?
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never did consider it ... lol tongue.gif


QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 17 2013, 12:00 AM)
Wait till u send it for service....

You'll 'love' it!!!!
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meaning ?
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post Apr 17 2013, 01:03 AM

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AFAIK only turbocharged XV are the diesel ones, 2.0 145hp @3600rpm, 350nm @1600rpm
and mitsubishi ain't bringing it in due to our lousy diesel or maybe coz it only have manual transmission

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post Apr 17 2013, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 17 2013, 12:32 AM)
never did consider it ... lol tongue.gif
meaning ?
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Simple... The service sucks big time!!!
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 17 2013, 07:50 AM)
Simple... The service sucks big time!!!
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Unfortunately I have to agree on this one. None of the dozens of Subaru Impreza drivers that I know ever goes back to TCS/MI for service unless it was during the warranty period. We have a few Subaru specialist around that can do the job better than them at half the cost.
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 17 2013, 12:32 AM)
never did consider it ... lol tongue.gif
meaning ?
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Do what you need to do at TCS/MI until the warranty runs out. Anything that you can do outside that does not void warranty, you might want to consider doing it outside. They charge an exorbitant amount for parts. For example, OEM Subaru Impreza WRX front brake pads RM850 per pair. For that price I can get racing spec pads and OEM Replacement pads 0-500C range is only around RM400-500 per pair. Suspension.. hah.. that one is a real joke.. RM5000 OEM.

Since you have a new car, it should be pretty much trouble free as Subaru parts do last quite long but once they break, it becomes a headache as it does not share many common parts with other cars. Their parts are pretty 'unique' to Subaru only.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 17 2013, 09:21 AM)
Do what you need to do at TCS/MI until the warranty runs out. Anything that you can do outside that does not void warranty, you might want to consider doing it outside. They charge an exorbitant amount for parts. For example, OEM Subaru Impreza WRX front brake pads RM850 per pair. For that price I can get racing spec pads and OEM Replacement pads 0-500C range is only around RM400-500 per pair. Suspension.. hah.. that one is a real joke.. RM5000 OEM.

Since you have a new car, it should be pretty much trouble free as Subaru parts do last quite long but once they break, it becomes a headache as it does not share many common parts with other cars. Their parts are pretty 'unique' to Subaru only.
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ah , that .. pretty much expected that already , well, not yet rech that stage yet though .
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post Apr 17 2013, 10:02 AM

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Still no Subaru's dealer or service centre available in Sabah.
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 17 2013, 09:56 AM)
ah , that .. pretty much expected that already , well, not yet rech that stage yet though .
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It is true. I owned the Forester between 09 till end of last year. The minute warranty was over, I did not return to MI for servicing. The last time I was there to service was in 2011. However, I see that they have now expanded their operations and the XV sells in larger volumes compared to the previous Foresters, WRXs and Legacys.

Also heard that they are gonna have a spare part hub here. They are also rebuilding a 7 storey HQ building 2 lots away from their current HQ. So hopefully this will change things around a bit. Afterall, if they want to establish an increased market share, they need to change their service attitude.
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QUOTE(joker98 @ Apr 17 2013, 10:05 AM)
It is true. I owned the Forester between 09 till end of last year. The minute warranty was over, I did not return to MI for servicing. The last time I was there to service was in 2011. However, I see that they have now expanded their operations and the XV sells in larger volumes compared to the previous Foresters, WRXs and Legacys.

Also heard that they are gonna have a spare part hub here. They are also rebuilding a 7 storey HQ building 2 lots away from their current HQ. So hopefully this will change things around a bit. Afterall, if they want to establish an increased market share, they need to change their service attitude.
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And the only reason they are still alive in Malaysia is because of TC. Unfortunately, that also represents a slight conflict in interest as TC has exclusive rights to distribute Nissan. Subaru is part Toyota now and might be better off with UMW (yeah I know.. they are not the best either..).
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QUOTE(joker98 @ Apr 17 2013, 10:05 AM)
It is true. I owned the Forester between 09 till end of last year. The minute warranty was over, I did not return to MI for servicing. The last time I was there to service was in 2011. However, I see that they have now expanded their operations and the XV sells in larger volumes compared to the previous Foresters, WRXs and Legacys.

Also heard that they are gonna have a spare part hub here. They are also rebuilding a 7 storey HQ building 2 lots away from their current HQ. So hopefully this will change things around a bit. Afterall, if they want to establish an increased market share, they need to change their service attitude.
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I don't think they'll ever change bro. It's the attitude that matters the most. Most of their SAs have worst attitudes than even Proton's SAs!!!!!!

I'm also speaking from experience as I send my car for servicing since 2010!!!

Been a customer of T and H before, even proton and perodua but nothing 'out beats' Subaru!!!!



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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 17 2013, 11:00 AM)
I don't think they'll ever change bro. It's the attitude that matters the most. Most of their SAs have worst attitudes than even Proton's SAs!!!!!!

I'm also speaking from experience as I send my car for servicing since 2010!!!

Been a customer of T and H before, even proton and perodua but nothing 'out beats' Subaru!!!!
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malaysia is like that one lah...
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post Apr 17 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(winkiedilwy @ Apr 17 2013, 11:28 AM)
malaysia is like that one lah...
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Cannot say that bro... if everyone says that then, our service industry will die soon.

I can say Subarus are great! Great in handling, great in quality and great in looks! biggrin.gif

Just that IF... and I say IF Motor Image or TC is really keen on capturing the Malaysian market with Subarus, they MUST improve on Customer Service dept!!!!!

Every 2-3 months, they have so many staff turnover! Everytime I go there, it's a new person. Being new and perhaps they know that they'll not last that long, they just treat customers like rubbish!

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QUOTE(subaru555 @ Apr 17 2013, 11:44 AM)
Cannot say that bro... if everyone says that then, our service industry will die soon.

I can say Subarus are great! Great in handling, great in quality and great in looks!  biggrin.gif

Just that IF... and I say IF Motor Image or TC is really keen on capturing the Malaysian market with Subarus, they MUST improve on Customer Service dept!!!!!

Every 2-3 months, they have so many staff turnover! Everytime I go there, it's a new person. Being new and perhaps they know that they'll not last that long, they just treat customers like rubbish!

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100% agree!
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Apr 17 2013, 11:00 AM)
I don't think they'll ever change bro. It's the attitude that matters the most. Most of their SAs have worst attitudes than even Proton's SAs!!!!!!

I'm also speaking from experience as I send my car for servicing since 2010!!!

Been a customer of T and H before, even proton and perodua but nothing 'out beats' Subaru!!!!
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dunno , the sales person which i got seems to be quite ok , same guy handled it from when i placed the deposit @ the roadshow in the cuve last year , till delivery before cny .

one thing thogh m the road leadin into the service centre is crap .. lol ..

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