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post Nov 3 2012, 11:02 PM, updated 13y ago

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ANY CEILING FAN recommendation suitable for low ceiling house ?[/b]

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2 1/2 feet lower but with downlight installed less direct glare. Other choices for low ceiling are lights that are installed on the far ends of the walls that shine upwards to the ceiling giving that romantic exotic feel. Add also shade or stand lamps and your living room will look spacious.

Make sure you dont have high back furniture. Low sleek ones will be perfect. Make sure your walls are light or patel colored and not dark - making the ceiling even lower. Play with colors of your feng shui compatibility.


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post Nov 3 2012, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(ricstc @ Nov 3 2012, 11:06 PM)
2 1/2 feet lower but with downlight installed less direct glare. Other choices for low ceiling are lights that are installed on the far ends of the walls that shine upwards to the ceiling giving that romantic exotic feel. Add also shade or stand lamps and your living room will look spacious.

Make sure you dont have high back furniture. Low sleek ones will be perfect. Make sure your walls are light or patel colored and not dark - making the ceiling even lower. Play with colors of your feng shui compatibility.
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so, u still suggest plaster ceiling for low ceiling house, I mean since its 2 1/2 feet lower.
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post Nov 4 2012, 11:34 PM

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wat fan would u guys recommended for low ceiling ?? i would like to know also. Thanks in advance
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If you want to put ceiling, get the downlights that are not cone type, square type (or equivalent) is better due to the bulbs coming in from the side, and not from top. this way you lower your ceiling 6-8 inches only

panasonic nami jr, about 12 inches from ceiling only

either that or any baby fan (deka, etc) will do fine too
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post Nov 8 2012, 11:17 PM

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post Nov 9 2012, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Nov 8 2012, 11:17 PM)
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Is plaster ceiling a must for you since the ceiling is already pretty low ?? Despite the high ceiling of my new house, I still forego plaster ceiling since I do not want to have that kind of "stuffy and congested" feelling.
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post Nov 9 2012, 09:27 AM

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If you want plaster ceiling to hide the beams, then I dont think you should since the ceiling is already low.

If you want the plaster ceiling coz you want to have downlight, then you can have plaster ceiling at have lesser depth - just enough for 4 inch depth downlights..meaning plaster ceiling don't cover the beams so you will still have sunken parts with plaster ceiling from section to section...and just add cornices around the beam area..

For fan, you can leave a whole where you want the fan to be...maybe round hole instead of square hole so that your fan sits on your original ceiling instead of the plaster ceiling...
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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Nov 3 2012, 11:02 PM)
I m just thinking , for those old house (with lower ceiling)....

By installing plaster ceiling, wouldn't it MAKE the ceiling much lower ? just wonder, Plaster ceiling (what is the minimum height to install the lighting ) ?

or any suggestion on lighting without plaster ceiling
What type of FAN suitable for low ceiling house ?

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For me, any ceiling height below 9ft is considered low, my existing ceiling height is 11ft, after installed plaster ceiling it is about 10ft, which is still preferable biggrin.gif Usually for low ceiling, you can go for baby fan, other than baby fan, some people will use dome so that they can install "big" fan instead of baby fan
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Nov 9 2012, 10:49 AM)
For me, any ceiling height below 9ft is considered low, my existing ceiling height is 11ft, after installed plaster ceiling it is about 10ft,  which is still preferable biggrin.gif Usually for low ceiling, you can go for baby fan, other than baby fan, some people will use dome so that they can install "big" fan instead of baby fan
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Normal fan can lah. My ceiling height is 9.5'. I use normal KDK fan. My hand still unable touch the fan.

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QUOTE(limhm1 @ Nov 9 2012, 08:18 AM)
Is plaster ceiling a must for you since the ceiling is already pretty low ?? Despite the high ceiling of my new house, I still forego plaster ceiling since I do not want to have that kind of "stuffy and congested" feelling.
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PLASTER CEILING Is not a must. Just its easy for lighting...

may I know how u use the lighting of ur house ? Can post pic ?
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post Nov 9 2012, 12:35 PM

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One way to light the place is one one side of the wall, install an Ikea LACK wall shelf. Comes in 2 sizes. 110cm and 190cm. Use as many as needed for one wall. Usually in living room, the whole length above tv as long as the air con is not there. Install it 1 feet down from ceiling. Instead of wall mounted lights, use T5 fluoroscent which can be connected in series without wires. They light up real nice and throw a soft indrect lighting making the place cosy.

Only draw back is the dust that accumulates which has to be wiped once in a while. I do it when changing lights or every 6-9months.

Another way is to use floor lamp lighting. Get those from Ikea. What I've done is to buy two and sacrifice two poles from one of them to make it taller ie about 7 feet or more. The remaining lamp with single pole is used as besdie table lamp or desk lamp. Many ways around.

One thing about downlight is they are directed lighting with the ballast heating up the ceiling space. Over time the heat has nowhere to escape and naturally flow downwards from the plaster ceiling board. After 6-8hours operation, turn it off before going to bed and after that you get the idea how hot and stuffy it can get.

Give and take la.

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Better do away with plaster ceiling if the original ceiling is too low. The priority should be to have higher ceiling rather than make the ceiling lower with a plaster ceiling.

Instead of downlights, can have surface mounted lights. No point having a ceiling when which you can touch with your hand. Have a wall-mounted swinging fan.

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you need to mention how low your ceiling is then you'd get a better answer.

depends on your other work also, are you going to do tiling? if the floor isn't even, you may need to even it up, and that may add up to another 1-2 inches across your whole house.
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Example shown above is what is called trough lighting. Softer and cosier look.

Some hide the length of a beam with a trough and illuminate on either side of the beam. Ex entrance and living room.

Cleaning it is something else cos out of sight and out of mind. But with the Dyson DC31 handheld vacuum, it's a minor problem.

Also, check out the TV Cabinet thread. Some of their photos are quite inspiring as to how they also do lighting.

Good luck and happy designing.

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post Nov 9 2012, 03:18 PM

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Look like Light box / L-box to me.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 9 2012, 03:18 PM)
Look like Light box / L-box to me.
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It's usually called a light trough. A box suggests enclosing cover at the top. But yes why not enclose it? Keeps the dust minimal, insect and cicak s!@# away. also.

This one is open like what is seen in shopping mall, offices, hotels.

Only problem with most I've seen is it's hidden to high up so the light has not enough throw. Probably it's meant to accent a little of the ceiling and the top wall downwards.

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Just looking for 4' horizontal downlight type. Then make 6' plaster from your ceiling:) To install fan, just make a hole (round or square) to your plaster ceiling and used your original concrete ceiling to hook fan. Solve problem.
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 9 2012, 12:35 PM)
One way to light the place is one one side of the wall, install an Ikea LACK wall shelf. Comes in 2 sizes. 110cm and 190cm. Use as many as needed for one wall. Usually in living room, the whole length above tv as long as the air con is not there. Install it 1 feet down from ceiling. Instead of wall mounted lights, use T5 fluoroscent which can be connected in series without wires. They light up real nice and throw a soft indrect lighting making the place cosy.

Only draw back is the dust that accumulates which has to be wiped once in a while. I do it when changing lights or every 6-9months.

Another way is to use floor lamp lighting. Get those from Ikea. What I've done is to buy two and sacrifice two poles from one of them to make it taller ie about 7 feet or more. The remaining lamp with single pole is used as besdie table lamp or desk lamp. Many ways around.

One thing about downlight is they are directed lighting with the ballast heating up the ceiling space. Over time the heat has nowhere to escape and naturally flow downwards from the plaster ceiling board. After 6-8hours operation, turn it off before going to bed and after that you get the idea how hot and stuffy it can get.

Give and take la.
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To illustrate what I mentioned above here's a picture of the Lack wall mounted shelf. Here's two pieces: a 110cm + 190cm for the study.
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Closeup on the T5 below:
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The below is living room: 3 x 110cm + 1x190cm.
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Yes I admint it's dusty. I plan to make custom shelf glass and place on them after cleaning so that only the glass needs to be cleaned instead of the shelf. directly.

T5 connector for the living room:

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 9 2012, 12:35 PM)
One way to light the place is one one side of the wall, install an Ikea LACK wall shelf. Comes in 2 sizes. 110cm and 190cm. Use as many as needed for one wall. Usually in living room, the whole length above tv as long as the air con is not there. Install it 1 feet down from ceiling. Instead of wall mounted lights, use T5 fluoroscent which can be connected in series without wires. They light up real nice and throw a soft indrect lighting making the place cosy.

Only draw back is the dust that accumulates which has to be wiped once in a while. I do it when changing lights or every 6-9months.

Another way is to use floor lamp lighting. Get those from Ikea. What I've done is to buy two and sacrifice two poles from one of them to make it taller ie about 7 feet or more. The remaining lamp with single pole is used as besdie table lamp or desk lamp. Many ways around.

One thing about downlight is they are directed lighting with the ballast heating up the ceiling space. Over time the heat has nowhere to escape and naturally flow downwards from the plaster ceiling board. After 6-8hours operation, turn it off before going to bed and after that you get the idea how hot and stuffy it can get.

Give and take la.
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To illustrate what I mentioned above here's a picture of the Lack wall mounted shelf. Here's two pieces: a 110cm + 190cm for the study.
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Closeup on the T5 below. T5 is powered by connection point for old wall-mounted lamp. This model from Horizon Malaysia uses a long tube wire flexi-connector :
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HorizoN T5 lamps used for the study:
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The below is living room: 3 x 110cm + 1x190cm.
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Yes I admit it's dusty. I plan to make custom shelf glass and place on them after cleaning so that only the glass needs to be cleaned instead of the shelf. directly.

Rigid plastic connector for China made T5 used in the living room:
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Added on November 9, 2012, 8:18 pmSorry for the double post. The ceiling here is 9ft.

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 9 2012, 07:46 PM)
To illustrate what I mentioned above here's a picture of the Lack wall mounted shelf. Here's two pieces: a 110cm + 190cm for the study.
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Closeup on the T5 below. T5 is powered by connection point for old wall-mounted lamp. This model from Horizon Malaysia uses a long tube wire flexi-connector :
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HorizoN T5 lamps used for the study:
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The below is living room: 3 x 110cm + 1x190cm.
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Yes I admit it's dusty. I plan to make custom shelf glass and place on them after cleaning so that only the glass needs to be cleaned instead of the shelf. directly.

Rigid plastic connector for China made T5 used in the living room:
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Added on November 9, 2012, 8:18 pmSorry for the double post. The ceiling here is 9ft.
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Thanks ... Just wonder, how does it look overall ? ( I mean the overall effect , eg. when it switch on light at night. Should look nice with other combination of other the TV )

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 9 2012, 07:44 PM)
The below is living room: 3 x 110cm + 1x190cm.
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Yes I admint it's dusty. I plan to make custom shelf glass and place on them after cleaning so that only the glass needs to be cleaned instead of the shelf. directly.

T5 connector for the living room:
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You need clean it every week?

I can see there is 1" of dust on the shelf. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Nov 10 2012, 06:04 AM)
Thanks ... Just wonder, how does it look overall ? ( I mean the overall effect , eg. when it switch on light at night.   Should look nice with other combination of other the TV )
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Very cosy. Light is yellow hued warm white (2700K). If too yellow than there's not too white not too yellow (4000K) or for older folks who cannot stand yellow then the standard blueish cool daylight (6000-6500K). The mobile phone camera doesn't do justice as it will either make it too yellow or too subdued due to white balance adjustment.

All the numbered K are color temperature. Most lightbulb packaging will state what it is. T5 are commonly warm white or cool daylight. Cool white (4000K) which is in between the too yellow or too blueish white is the Goldilocks. Not too yellow, not too blue...just nice. I have yet to come across cool white T5 (4000K) though I am sure they are around.


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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 10 2012, 08:36 AM)
You need clean it every week?

I can see there is 1" of dust on the shelf.  sweat.gif
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I don't bother until spring cleaning time. Like I said out of sight out of mind. Planning to cut custom size 3/8" glass shelf to cover since a 110cm can take 5-15kg max according to the instruction manual. The 190 up to 25kg. All these is as long as it is drilled on concrete or clay bricks (not sand bricks).


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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 10 2012, 09:21 AM)
I don't bother until spring cleaning time. Like I said out of sight out of mind. Planning to cut custom size 3/8" glass shelf to cover since a 110cm can take 5-15kg max according to the instruction manual. The 190 up to 25kg. All these is as long as it is drilled on concrete or clay bricks (not sand bricks).
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But the dust still stick to the glass instead the shelf. And when the dust thick enough, that will coverup the lighting brightness too.

Do your room have the ceiling fan? Does the dust flying around?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 10 2012, 09:58 AM)
But the dust still stick to the glass instead the shelf. And when the dust thick enough, that will coverup the lighting brightness too.
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No it doesn't like crowd over the light. It's just build up around the surface. But better on the glass than on the surface.

QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 10 2012, 09:58 AM)
Do your room have the ceiling fan? Does the dust flying around?
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Yes. No, it doesn't fly around. It's the rather clumpy kind. Also, it's not 1" thick. It's just covering the surface even after a year.

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I also have a small flat with low ceiling, only 500sqf. In process of renovating it also. Now searching for nice minimalist design for lighting. Thanks for all the idea. Will hunt for other idea. Sharing is caring, will post here if i found anything related.
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QUOTE(Mayor @ Nov 11 2012, 02:14 AM)
I also have a small flat with low ceiling, only 500sqf. In process of renovating it also. Now searching for nice minimalist design for lighting. Thanks for all the idea. Will hunt for other idea. Sharing is caring, will post here if i found anything related.
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This is my second implementation of the "light shelf". I used it first in my old condo unit with 2x110cm. Only needed 2x28W T5 and a 1x14W T5 to run along the whole length. Ceiling height in the condo was 8.5 ft.
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Quite a good idea...prevents the strobing effect too if area small and really need a ceiling fan. Keeping this idea in my head when I get my own place in the future. Thanks thumbup.gif
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Added on November 30, 2012, 12:45 amMe no plan for plaster ceiling, no budget I get nice lighting only

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QUOTE(creativespikes @ Nov 30 2012, 12:40 AM)
Me no plan for plaster ceiling, no budget I get nice lighting only

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You have nice lighting set. But the ceiling spoil the look.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 30 2012, 10:50 AM)
You have nice lighting set. But the ceiling spoil the look.
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post Dec 7 2012, 10:41 AM

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Need Ceiling FAN suggestion for low ceiling house !
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post Dec 7 2012, 11:32 AM

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so cham no 1 answer TS..
how low is your ceiling?
installing plaster or not?
my suggestion is to ask the electrical shop for opinion...
got some fans from DEKA if not mistaken for low ceilings..

give you an idea, my ceiling is 9ft2in height, installed plaster becomes <9ft. what i did was created a box in the plaster so that the fan sits on the original ceiling still....
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QUOTE(mad_man @ Dec 7 2012, 11:32 AM)
so cham no 1 answer TS..
how low is your ceiling?
installing plaster or not?
my suggestion is to ask the electrical shop for opinion...
got some fans from DEKA if not mistaken for low ceilings..

give you an idea, my ceiling is 9ft2in height, installed plaster becomes <9ft. what i did was created a box in the plaster so that the fan sits on the original ceiling still....
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Thanks

this one, I know.... A lot of sample house do this.... notworthy.gif I actually thought of doing this.

I bought is an AUCTIONED house. The living room already done plaster ceiling with fan installed.

Ceiling (without plaster ceiling) height is 116", 9 feet 8 inches. But, maybe the beam is low, after plaster ceiling installed. You can almost touch the CEILING FAN if u raise ur hand. (My height 172 - 173 cm).

Thinking to change the CEILING FAN lo... rclxub.gif
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wow! u must have long hands... LOL!
u r 5'6", and assuming after plaster ur ceiling height is 9', u would still have a gap of 3'6"...
my advise still stands, get your electrician to recommend you a fan with a shorter arm, and if I m not wrong, DEKA has such fans....
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QUOTE(mad_man @ Dec 7 2012, 06:09 PM)
wow! u must have long hands... LOL!
u r 5'6", and assuming after plaster ur ceiling height is 9', u would still have a gap of 3'6"...
my advise still stands, get your electrician to recommend you a fan with a shorter arm, and if I m not wrong, DEKA has such fans....
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I am 5' 8", presume after I raise my hand & raise Fingers , an ADDITIONAL 1'8" , so GATHER 7' 4" .

The ceiling fan around 1 foot 5 inches (16' - 17') height


7' 4" + 1' 5" = 8' 9"........... This plaster ceiling <9' , so can touch it lo..
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hahaha.. sorry my bad... missed out 2" from your height....
the way i see it you got 2 option, do the box, or get a short fan..
ur choice bro..
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QUOTE(mad_man @ Dec 7 2012, 06:46 PM)
hahaha.. sorry my bad... missed out 2" from your height....
the way i see it you got 2 option, do the box, or get a short fan..
ur choice bro..
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like I said, I do agree with u, the box is beautiful...

BUt, if remove plaster ceiling, then install a new one, quite waste $$ lo.... (I might consider though)

What FAN u pick, mind share ?? Even with ur 9' 2" ceiling, I think a short fan is better lo..
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Go for table fan.
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Buy KDK baby fan (no need hook)
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QUOTE(creativespikes @ Dec 7 2012, 08:34 PM)
Buy KDK baby fan (no need hook)
This is a good idea. Will install it in other room.

Can this baby fan install in plaster ceiling ?

But, my living room quite big.... I am thinking of this, Sensa 5 K15Z9, It mention its height 33cm, true bo ?

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Dec 7 2012, 06:59 PM)
like I said, I do agree with u, the box is beautiful...

BUt, if remove plaster ceiling, then install a new one, quite waste $$ lo.... (I might consider though)

What FAN u pick, mind share ?? Even with ur 9' 2" ceiling, I think a short fan is better lo..
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no need remove all plaster ceiling... get your contractor to see what he can do
I installed the box, using DEKA normal fan hooked up my ceiling
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i dont go around walking in my living room with my arms up in the air all the time... smile.gif
baby fan also is a good call..

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QUOTE(mad_man @ Dec 7 2012, 09:23 PM)
no need remove all plaster ceiling... get your contractor to see what he can do
I installed the box, using DEKA normal fan hooked up my ceiling
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i dont go around walking in my living room with my arms up in the air all the time... smile.gif
baby fan also is a good call..
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haha, thats just my expression on low ceiling .... OMG, I can touch the FAN !
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I am having the same problem also

9' 7" ceiling after plaster it will be 9' 3" wonder if I put a baby fans (deka 29cm) wonder it will be too low
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My ceiling height is only 9 feet. I plan to install normal KDK fan. I'm 174cm height. Is it recommended to do plaster ceiling with 4 inch height?

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