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post Mar 1 2006, 11:23 AM

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U test your customer like this?
Hmm...
How u will feel if later u wanna buy a stuff that u really wan then found a good bargain but the seller test u like this?
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post Mar 1 2006, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Mar 1 2006, 11:20 AM)
I told you that I don't expect him to increase any offer. I wanna see if he going to insist in buying or just letting it go. You know, some people might say "Since you got a higher offer, better you sell to him lar". This is what my test is all about. Since he wants me, I let it go to him then. I know you think that the test is about to see whether he wants to increase the offer or not. But that's not it.
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Im sure, 99.9% of ppl will be mad, and say that when the seller tell them about that. It's totally unreasonable for the so-called test. If u want to sell him the item, just let him know that u have a better offer but ur still willing to sell it to him as he was the first one who booked it. If not, just tell him straight that u need to reject his offer. There's no need for whatsoever test, unless u need to marry him so u need to know his personality more.
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post Mar 1 2006, 11:24 AM

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edited****apologies...

This post has been edited by larkowen: Mar 1 2006, 11:35 AM
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post Mar 1 2006, 11:28 AM

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That's why I said I have not stated clearly in the PM, that what I said, is misleading him. Sorry, I have to go now. Check back later for more flames. -.-

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No, this is my first time to do this.
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post Mar 1 2006, 11:30 AM

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Its me who bank in or him? -.-

Bah, I don't see any point arguing any futher. Am waiting for his reply anyway.

This post has been edited by Hyde`fK: Mar 1 2006, 11:31 AM
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post Mar 1 2006, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Mar 1 2006, 11:20 AM)
I told you that I don't expect him to increase any offer. I wanna see if he going to insist in buying or just letting it go. You know, some people might say "Since you got a higher offer, better you sell to him lar". This is what my test is all about. Since he wants me, I let it go to him then. I know you think that the test is about to see whether he wants to increase the offer or not. But that's not it.
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You fail!! What you call 'TEST' is something shit. . . should use a better method, let say like you can tell the buyer 'If you didn't bank in the money before datetime xx:xx:xx, then I will sell the items to others!!'!!

Do what you have promise to the buyer, you can only sell the items to others if the buyer break the rules.
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post Mar 1 2006, 11:34 AM

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MY wrong....see wrongly.....my posts edited......apologies..
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post Mar 1 2006, 11:52 AM

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Misleading fact bah. Already clearly state that. But my point is that, if he really wants it, I will surely sell it off to him, or he would let me sell off to another party with higher offer, then I sell it to the other party.

Just a matter of
1. He agrees?
2. A deal is a deal, keep that in mind.

I know my words are misleading you all. Its ok for me. You wanna point out your opinion go ahead, at least I've learnt something here.

Sayonara for now, back in the evening.

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post Mar 1 2006, 11:54 AM

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seller's explaination on "Testing" the buyer is total crap. I am not buying this explaination because clearly he either wanted the buyer to offer higher price or he want to sell to someone else. So, just be honest with your motive. Don't give stupid explanations.

Having said that...buyer also does not need to be so mad. It's just clear real life trading issues. You buying a secondhand car. Then you said "Okay, I come and pay money tomorrow". Then another person offer the sales man RM100 more for the car. Sales man is greedy and sold to this guy. Then salesman call you and said got another person want to buy and pay more. Naturally your response would be either take it at higher price or leave it.

So, legally there's nothing wrong here. Only morally wrong. Salesman greedy cause want to make more profit. Then again...you said paying tomorrow but what if you didn't pay? Suddenly tomorrow you said saw another car better price, don't want his car already. How? People can pay immediately and higher price..that give them certain advantage in any business transaction. Period.

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post Mar 1 2006, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Mar 1 2006, 11:52 AM)

2. A deal is a deal, keep that in mind.
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But you choose to 'test' him instead.. bravo.. lets all ppl here do testing!

Those ppls here that said "no money involve, you lose nothing, so no problem lar", is purely damn stupid. If you dont know whats the meaning of FFK, go check. Its in the MO list. Even no money is involve, nobody get hurt, no cats got killed, its still aint all rite to FFK.

Please, if you wanna trade/sell/buy, dont 'test' or whatever sh|t lame excuse you gonna give. Be an honest person.
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post Mar 1 2006, 01:00 PM

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yes...i totally agree wif u all....testing the customer is a totally lame excuse....if he is still looking for better offer y u reserved it....

is a total lame excuse to protect himself.....where is business morality...we call trust....

BTW im not buying it from him....he can go get his RM610 offer.....

Mod i hope u can do something about....
warning other to do these FFK stuff....

im not being mean here.....bcuz i believe keep ur words in business..... cool.gif

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post Mar 1 2006, 01:07 PM

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some buyer is like that..ask about price..stock availability and discount sumore..but end up say "sorry ,nono" ..
what to do.
just relax la// you sell to other people lo blush.gif ok
dont angry..no worries be happy
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QUOTE(rayanne @ Mar 1 2006, 01:07 PM)
some buyer is like that..ask about price..stock availability and discount sumore..but end up say "sorry ,nono" ..
what to do.
just relax la// you sell to other people lo blush.gif ok
dont angry..no worries be happy
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ei..im not selling but buying hope u read properly...
im the 1 kena ffk here
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post Mar 3 2006, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(lauyah @ Mar 1 2006, 12:22 PM)
But you choose to 'test' him instead.. bravo.. lets all ppl here do testing!

Those ppls here that said "no money involve, you lose nothing, so no problem lar", is purely damn stupid. If you dont know whats the meaning of FFK, go check. Its in the MO list. Even no money is involve, nobody get hurt, no cats got killed, its still aint all rite to FFK.

Please, if you wanna trade/sell/buy, dont 'test' or whatever sh|t lame excuse you gonna give. Be an honest person.
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Those ppls here that said "no money involve, you lose nothing, so no problem lar", is purely damn stupid. If you dont know whats the meaning of FFK, go check. Its in the MO list. Even no money is involve, nobody get hurt, no cats got killed, its still aint all rite to FFK. <--- this phrase aint rite. i think ur da 1 bein stupid down here. everyone needs to report ffk case like dat. LYN MO list will be loaded up more than a 100 pages. for jsut an item of mine itll be a few of them who wud be asking prices say wants them, ended up saying no no the next day. PPL no mny wat to do? rob him? "sorry u book my item already, u dont have da mny to buy it?MO list u". da definition of FFK to me is different frm yourz. learn more bout it before calling sum1 stupid arse.
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post Mar 3 2006, 04:09 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 3 2006, 12:51 AM)
Those ppls here that said "no money involve, you lose nothing, so no problem lar", is purely damn stupid. If you dont know whats the meaning of FFK, go check. Its in the MO list. Even no money is involve, nobody get hurt, no cats got killed, its still aint all rite to FFK. <--- this phrase aint rite. i think ur da 1 bein stupid down here. everyone needs to report ffk case like dat. LYN MO list will be loaded up more than a 100 pages. for jsut an item of mine itll be a few of them who wud be asking prices say wants them, ended up saying no no the next day. PPL no  mny wat to do? rob him? "sorry u book my item already, u dont have da mny to buy it?MO list u". da definition of FFK to me is different frm yourz. learn more bout it before calling sum1 stupid arse.
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i second tat tongue.gif

buyer wants to get the best deal and seller want to get the best price out of their item.

why is it seller can choose to sell to the highest price offer but buyer must stick to one seller, i mean if they havent agree to complete the deal, and they found a better deal elsewhere, why not they take tat item instead?

come on, asking some Q about the product or nego abit only, but some seller pulak think the seller must buy their item if not ffk sweat.gif

i got receive pm from ppl asking me to reserve for them, pay next week, deal tomolo and stuff like tat then lesap laugh.gif if put everyone of them in MO list i think sure damm long liao the list biggrin.gif

its their money, and they have the rights to call off the deal, morally its not very right but still they have the rights, we cant force ppl to buy mah tongue.gif

why is it the seller always gets the advantages and benefits huh.gif
buyer got to pay first and have to wait for their item, and no offence i mean some juz some seller sometimes delay the sending giving out all kinds of excuse sweat.gif
this is juz to hightlight some of the problem the buyer face in dealing not accusing anybody coz we need to care of the welfare of the buyers as well( sorry abit bias here coz i buy more than i sell tongue.gif )

usuallly its very unfair to the buyer compare to the seller

as long as they havent agree to meet and cod or confirm of banking then i tink its acceptable for them to call off the deal.
at least they are better than those who reserve and book then MIA for one whole week. then u duuno whether to sell it to others or wait him/her back.

if sell it to others, then he/she come back say u ffk him/her.
if dun sell and wait might need to wait forever sweat.gif

i am not encouraging ffk here but juz tink that there are some certain case which can be forgiven.

and i dislike joy bidder more than ffk shakehead.gif
as long as they dint ffk during cod its ok to me, coz i can juz continue to bump my page tongue.gif

opinion is based on general ffk case and not juz on this case alone smile.gif
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post Mar 3 2006, 12:34 PM

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LYN MO list will be loaded up more than a 100 pages. for jsut an item of mine itll be a few of them who wud be asking prices say wants them, ended up saying no no the next day. PPL no mny wat to do? rob him? "sorry u book my item already, u dont have da mny to buy it?MO list u". da definition of FFK to me is different frm yourz. learn more bout it before calling sum1 stupid arse.

No money then why the F u book?
If no money, diam diam la, dun order / book then FFK ppl!
What if somebody say wanna buy your house, confirm order then 3 month later cancel it? Sure u will frust coz maybe u already plan what to do with the house selling money (maybe to buy new house)
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post Mar 3 2006, 12:43 PM

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Cool down. sweat.gif

I know there's will be some flames among some members' with different perpectives/thinking. sad.gif

Anyway, don't blame anyone here. Its is purely my fault at first. So don't simply call ppl stupid ass, noob or whatsoever.

The matter is solved, just some misunderstanding only. wink.gif
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good that its settled then

but next time, dont do your "test" on ppl again
just come out clean and ask him if he's willing to pass on the deal since you've got a better offer
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post Mar 3 2006, 12:59 PM

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Haha yea. tongue.gif
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post Mar 3 2006, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Mar 3 2006, 12:34 PM)
No money then why the F u book?
If no money, diam diam la, dun order / book then FFK ppl!
What if somebody say wanna buy your house, confirm order then 3 month later cancel it? Sure u will frust coz maybe u already plan what to do with the house selling money (maybe to buy new house)
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u dumb or wat? duwan to call u an arsehole also cannot. god damit. ure 1st day in da market izzit? no money cannot book? next week get money cant? for farks they wanna have deposit system to be implemented? OMG ppl like u just dun get it. everythg is about bargain, negotiation, and whether it suit ur taste or not( for the product) telling u i want i want! means i do want da item. THERE ARE ALOT OF REASONZ TO REJECT DA DEAL LATER ON. 1 of IT NO MONEY 2nd BETTER DEAL! SEE GET CHEAP ITEM FOR SURE BARGAIN ABIT. TELL BUYER U WANT U WANT. LATER GOT PROBLEM WANNA REJECT DA DEAL, wat can da seller do? U THINK IM U? i live on with it. cancel den cancel la. NO BIG HARM. I DUN LOSE MY ITEM U DUN LOSE UR MONEY. WATZ DA PROBLEM? so FUZZY "kao lan" meh.

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