On another note... forget Rolex or Omega... forget even the Patek's, the AP's or the Vacheron's...

Apparently this is the Rolls Royce of watches

The Rosdenton "daydate homage" as promoted by Rosemund Kwan.


This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Feb 23 2013, 05:16 PM

If you want something timeless with some provenance and something relevant 10 years down the road..
- used vintage rolex datejust stainless with new good leather strap
- used omega speedmaster professional ref:3570 or 3573
- used rolex explorer 1
- used Grand Seiko

- new Longines Legend Diver non date if you can find one.
- i think the cal. 2500 Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra still available.

Just my 2 cents

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Feb 24 2013, 05:56 PM

Not a fan of overly large watches or Breitling for that matter.

Different strokes for different folks i guess.

If you're into big.. the Hamilton Pan Europ is pretty chunky... quite interesting too but have to change that awful leather strap.

This is on my 6.75" wrist



This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Feb 26 2013, 04:21 PM

In 19x5... Clarkson wears the PO and first time spotting Hammond on the Sub date.

I think he got his PO since season 18.. but point is... first time see the hamster with the Sub. Usually he just wears carrera and speedy's.

Edit: Still watching 19x5 as I'm posting this but on the second half of the episode... Hammond switched to a Breitling Navitimer and there was a couple of shots whereby Clarkson was on the PO and then next second on the same scene, he was wearing the IWC.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Feb 26 2013, 10:36 PM

Which is the better brand to you?

Because everyone also have different perception. It varies across location, age group, income level, social circle and how nuts they are about watches

Among the brands you mention and since you mention its your first swiss watch, I think Ball's Engineer II Red Label is one of the more versatile choice. It's got all the base covered, 40mm or 43mm sizes, looks good on bracelet or strap, COSC 2836 movement so accuracy's good, got daydate, very nice looking teak dial (the grey version in particular), can dress up or dress down. Basically an Aqua Terra at 1/3 the price and more features.

Ladies watch regardless of brand also have no second hand value.

Maybe its a wrong choice of word but I find that ladies watches seems to retain value proportionately lower than men watches.

Nice under-the-radar find. Wear it in good health.

Well since you already have a PO... SMP will be redundant right?

Well... that's one way of looking at it. But if that's the case, wouldn't you be better off just buying new fashion watches every once a while from the money you're gonna lose you flip your watch.

On the other hand, my 2 cent is to get something that works/presentable with every situation from all dressed up to selipar tat seng... something robust and clean along the lines of the classical sports watch (Rolex Explorer 1, Omega Aqua Terra for example) in a modest size between 38mm to 40mm.

As for bracelet or strap.. the watch size, lug length and design matters more for how it looks on your wrist than bracelet or strap. If you stick to watches with standard lug size (say 20mm, 22mm etc) there's a gazillion choices around the web for different leather straps for all budget and you can get as good if not better quality straps for half the price of the "ori" strap.

This of course leaves Oris out of the equation since they like to use proprietary lugs.

On the other hand, if you get one with a strap, then you'll have a problem getting a bracelet later as your only option will be getting a very expensive ori bracelet as in most cases, you can't get an aftermarket endlink that fits your watch perfectly.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Feb 28 2013, 01:07 AM

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The price sounds too good to be believed for this BALL Engineer red label... If US asking price is around 2600 dollars, then 2900 MYR is way too cheap! Are you refer to this model? Thanks

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Of course not the red label. 2900 is for my fireman racer. Red label if not mistaken is around10k retail. After discount bout 7.5k ++ gua. The red label is cost one right?

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Don't know about Malaysia price but in Taiwan its under RM5K

http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&fu...=BHAB25&ROWNO=6

Though some are quite interesting but at the end.. I think it's an uphill task for the fashion brand to get into high end watches.

A real life example was the senior VP of the company that I'm working... he's very well dressed and all but not really a watch person and he wore a tambour until one day in one of those casual office events, he got gelak by my female colleagues.

Now he collect Panerais

Horn blowing aside... This is a watch thread so its only natural to spread the poison.

I prefer the SARB. The cocktail time posted recently (forgot if its this or the Seiko thread) looks so sweet.

The Visodate disproportionately large day/date window a bit kacau. Also don't like the pressure fit caseback.

The Orient Star imo looks a bit too busy. Off topic, maybe its just me but can't get over the fake "HEV" on the Mako and the fake "moonphase" on the Sun&Moon below.

It looks very nice and was quite surprised at the pricing.. then realized its priced like that for a reason

Looks great too. Classic look and looks like it wears pretty well on your wrist.

If i were you, i'll leave the dial alone. Maybe polywatch the crystal abit but just that.

Just keep lah.. Maybe for your future wife or daughter. They dont make manual wind rollies anymore

Just keep lah.. Maybe for your future wife or daughter. They dont make manual wind rollies anymore

True moonphase as the name says.. Displays the different stages of the moon as you see it in the night sky. The moonphase wheel rotates one cycle every 29.5 days.
That Orient's called Sun & moon which basically is an am/pm indicator made to look like a moonphase.