QUOTE(moonhowler @ Jun 23 2013, 10:55 AM)
any comment on the following statement?
what is the best brokers that has less problem regarding order cannot materialize or broker requote unfavorably to u?
* Dealing Desk :
Brokers that offer "Cents account" or a "Mini account" with a fixed spread are routing the customer order to a dealing desk instead of real market
and are always is a counter-party of your trades.
This means that all small orders placed by traders (usually those which are below 0.1 lot) cannot be sent directly to the liquidity providers, simply because they won't be accepted.
so When you BUY, your brokers SELL and when you SELL - your broker BUY. which create a (virtual) market that is not connected to the real market, that is the reason behind infamous requote in MetaTrader and sometimes platform freeze when there is a major news.
with this lack of transparency some say that broker manipulate the price in his favor and other unethical practices to make the trader loose.
since forex is a decentralized market, there is no central authority to check the "real price" to have a proof of price manipulation, but since you and broker are in conflict of interest you win when he loose, he loose when you win.
* ECN: Electronic Communications Network
Also know as Non Dealing desk forex brokers when you place a trade, it simply passes on straight through the interbank markets
make their profits by charging a commission on your trade. and they offer variable floating spread from 0.5 to 2 on EUR/USD.
on other hand, they need larger deposit to trade 0.1 and up as your order goes directly to one or several large banks or financial institution, and here the broker act as intermediarry to liquidity providers with no interest in making you loose, but has more interst to make you win as can continue to perceive commisson. as arule most ECN:
broker must display the Depth of the Market (DOM) or trading volume in trading software.
MetaTrader 4 don't support ECN.
brokers are interested in their clients to be winning, otherwise there will be no commission to earn.
Don't suport MetaTrader 4 (unless they use a platform bridge between MT and their software).
full article:
http://www.dukascopy.com/fxcomm/fx-article...ion=read&id=887
I can not deny that both of these have a point, but is not 100% accurate. For example, there are MT4 brokers that support ECN. As for the dealing desk part, its mainly catered for small accounts ( below USD 20K depending on which Broker). If you wish to understand more, fell free to send me a PM.what is the best brokers that has less problem regarding order cannot materialize or broker requote unfavorably to u?
* Dealing Desk :
Brokers that offer "Cents account" or a "Mini account" with a fixed spread are routing the customer order to a dealing desk instead of real market
and are always is a counter-party of your trades.
This means that all small orders placed by traders (usually those which are below 0.1 lot) cannot be sent directly to the liquidity providers, simply because they won't be accepted.
so When you BUY, your brokers SELL and when you SELL - your broker BUY. which create a (virtual) market that is not connected to the real market, that is the reason behind infamous requote in MetaTrader and sometimes platform freeze when there is a major news.
with this lack of transparency some say that broker manipulate the price in his favor and other unethical practices to make the trader loose.
since forex is a decentralized market, there is no central authority to check the "real price" to have a proof of price manipulation, but since you and broker are in conflict of interest you win when he loose, he loose when you win.
* ECN: Electronic Communications Network
Also know as Non Dealing desk forex brokers when you place a trade, it simply passes on straight through the interbank markets
make their profits by charging a commission on your trade. and they offer variable floating spread from 0.5 to 2 on EUR/USD.
on other hand, they need larger deposit to trade 0.1 and up as your order goes directly to one or several large banks or financial institution, and here the broker act as intermediarry to liquidity providers with no interest in making you loose, but has more interst to make you win as can continue to perceive commisson. as arule most ECN:
broker must display the Depth of the Market (DOM) or trading volume in trading software.
MetaTrader 4 don't support ECN.
brokers are interested in their clients to be winning, otherwise there will be no commission to earn.
Don't suport MetaTrader 4 (unless they use a platform bridge between MT and their software).
full article:
http://www.dukascopy.com/fxcomm/fx-article...ion=read&id=887
BTW, I looking for a Mentor? or maybe a trading group, very interested in Trading, just dont really have the time or money to go fulltime trading.
Jun 27 2013, 12:20 PM

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