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post Jun 27 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(moonhowler @ Jun 23 2013, 10:55 AM)
any comment on the following statement?
what is the best brokers that has less problem regarding order cannot materialize or broker requote unfavorably to u?
* Dealing Desk :

    Brokers that offer "Cents account" or a "Mini account" with a fixed spread are routing the customer order to a dealing desk instead of real market
and are always is a counter-party of your trades.
This means that all small orders placed by traders (usually those which are below 0.1 lot) cannot be sent directly to the liquidity providers, simply because they won't be accepted.
so When you BUY, your brokers SELL and when you SELL - your broker BUY. which create a (virtual) market that is not connected to the real market, that is the reason behind infamous requote in MetaTrader and sometimes platform freeze when there is a major news.
with this lack of transparency some say that broker manipulate the price in his favor and other unethical practices to make the trader loose.
since forex is a decentralized market, there is no central authority to check the "real price"  to have a proof  of price manipulation, but since you and broker are in conflict of interest you win when he loose, he loose when you win.

* ECN: Electronic Communications Network

        Also know as Non Dealing desk forex brokers when you place a trade, it simply passes on straight through the interbank markets
make their profits by charging a commission on your trade. and they offer variable floating spread from 0.5 to 2 on EUR/USD.
on other hand, they need larger deposit to trade 0.1 and up as your order goes directly to one or several large banks or financial institution, and here  the broker act as intermediarry  to liquidity providers with no interest in making you loose, but has more interst to make you win as can continue to perceive commisson.  as arule most ECN:
broker must display the Depth of the Market (DOM) or trading volume in trading software.
MetaTrader 4 don't support ECN.
brokers are interested in their clients to be winning, otherwise there will be no commission to earn.
Don't suport MetaTrader 4 (unless they use a platform bridge between MT and their software).

full article:
http://www.dukascopy.com/fxcomm/fx-article...ion=read&id=887
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I can not deny that both of these have a point, but is not 100% accurate. For example, there are MT4 brokers that support ECN. As for the dealing desk part, its mainly catered for small accounts ( below USD 20K depending on which Broker). If you wish to understand more, fell free to send me a PM.

BTW, I looking for a Mentor? or maybe a trading group, very interested in Trading, just dont really have the time or money to go fulltime trading.
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post Jul 8 2013, 03:27 PM

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Anyone shorting the EJ at the moment? Head and shoulder pattern forming at the daily TF, just wondering if it a good bet to enter XD. blink.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(babienn @ Jul 8 2013, 06:06 PM)
Saw this from FB.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=676...5&type=1&ref=nf

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See the words I marked red, it's in chinese but basically it means that bank negara has classified online forex as illegal.  shocking.gif

I know we shouldn't join those broker with MLM/Pyramid Scheme, and forex is not regulated and licensed in Malaysia, but does it mean we are breaking the law when we trade via international broker eg.FXPrimus, HotForex, FXCM etc?
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Well, BNM will be more concerned about those MLM/Pyramid scheme/ Money Game kind of scams. Have been alot of cases where people ( even professionals -doctors, lawyers, bankers got scammed by these FX schemes). BNM actually want to deter retail traders from entering the FX market as most of Msia traders lack knowledge and treat FX as a GET RICH QUICK scheme. Most of Msia traders have no idea how the FX market works as well as which Brokerage company to choose.

And when you are choosing brokers, try to get those big brokers with License from UK (FSA/FCA/PRA), Australia (ASIC), or USA (NFA).
other regulations from whatever island is not really that convincing while regulations in Europe is kinda confusing as it only applies to certain nation in the EU.



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post Jul 12 2013, 12:04 PM

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Damned, shouldve bought the EU SWINg ....
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post Jul 12 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Jul 12 2013, 09:36 AM)
Hi guys ~~

May I know which site can I go to try a demo account which doesn't need me to install anything to test trade cos I can't install in the workplace and my phone is not good enough laugh.gif
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That you will have to find Brokers that offer a Web Trader ( Browser based trading platform). I am not sure if they provide it for their DEMO, but there are brokers who provide browser based platforms to their clients.

Try checking FXCM, Ducascopy, Xe Markets.
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post Jul 12 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(ccvv @ Jul 12 2013, 01:39 AM)
I think there's a must for IC. License or bank statement or utility bill is required if the correspondence add is not the same
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Yea, you can always put some sort of watermark for safety purposes.
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post Jul 17 2013, 02:33 PM

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Hi guys, any opinion on EURUSD? Btw, where do you guys get your fundamental news? Share pls XD hmm.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 02:47 PM

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Renewal fee? whats that? SWAP izit?
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post Jul 19 2013, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Jul 19 2013, 11:38 AM)
1:500 means leverage.
eg, GBP/USD quote at 1.5239 (trade volume 1). if 1:1 your margin is USD $15239.00 / 1:100 then is USD $152.39 / 1:500 then is USD $30.48.

lets say i trade with 1:500 leverage, volume use 1, each pip = USD $1 (Margin: USD $30.48)
volume use 0.01, each pip = USD$0.01 (Margin: USD $0.30)

my advise, if you can't lose, don't play forex, the movement for you is too big.
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I think you left out 1 zero for the margin?
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post Jul 21 2013, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(liamx @ Jul 21 2013, 01:56 AM)
Hi all sifus
im new to investment.
Can u all provide me some details for a beginner?
i have no idea how to invest.
thanks!
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Go babypips.com > school > read through everything, then you will have a very basic understanding of forex trading

Forexfactory > News calender to keep track of various news

More sites such as reuters, bloomberg, wsj that have news commentary and articles

Open a demo from any brokerage > preferably bigger brokers like FXCM, gain capital, etc and trade demo for a few months
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post Jul 24 2013, 11:10 AM

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All the Sifus, is it time to short eur/usd? All opinions are welcome XD
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post Jul 25 2013, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 24 2013, 08:14 PM)
which broker u using?
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Demo only. last time using FXopen, but since got burned once , I wanna demo till can profitable before going live again XD.

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post Jul 25 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Jul 24 2013, 10:13 PM)
Newbie analysis here:

This is 4h TF EURUSD chart. The price may goes up to fib 78.6% or 88.6%, then drop down to lower price.
We also can see bearish divergence there.
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bro, where did you get the 78.6 and 88.6 on the Fib? mine jumps from 61.8 then to 100.0 blink.gif

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post Jul 26 2013, 09:06 PM

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Damned, previous trade didnt went so well, as they say, the Trend is always your friend.

How long will the Euro bulls last?

IMO, the pair will likely breakthrough June's high as well
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post Jul 30 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Jul 30 2013, 08:32 AM)
oh Sonic R, so popular but I never try it. I just start learning VSA, not easy to remember all patterns. A person who use VSA for few months told me that she gets 75% winning with Risk:Reward >1.
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Seems interesting, can send me the link to this VSA? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jul 30 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cylaipro @ Jul 30 2013, 03:10 PM)
http://www.facebook.com/928FX this page have more than 75% winning. just follow it 1month. u can see big result  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Looks like a IB/signal provider/ educator to me... is he/she teaching the VSA or just giving out signals?

No offence, but I am more interested to learn a system than to rely on signals, unless they explain their justification about their trade. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 30 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(cylaipro @ Jul 30 2013, 03:44 PM)
he will explain to u if u ask him in pm... u can ask anything and he can guide u.
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smile.gif well thats good to hear, how long have you been following his signals? I am currently backtesting http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=345586
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post Jul 30 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(cylaipro @ Jul 30 2013, 04:01 PM)
almost 2month... really big result...
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Interesting, learn anything from the Sifu? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Will try to follow the signals, lets learn together laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(boyvai @ Jul 30 2013, 10:16 PM)
gbp/usd,euro/usd keep dropping please lol. rclxms.gif
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Alot of news this week, good for scalping with tight SL and BE XD rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Jul 31 2013, 11:39 AM)
I think you mean by spread (difference price of bid and ask)? I just test with my demo account, 0.1 lot of gold costs you $10, meaning around 10 pips if you compare to XXXUSD which is HUGE. If you play EURUSD, spread only ~2pips ($2), GBPUSD ~3pips.

Maybe you should play with demo account first and learn some basic concepts.
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Yea, from what I know, spreads for XAU and XAG is normally very high as compared to the major fx pairs. But on the bright side, the gold markets seems to be more volatile with huge movements. I guess its a double-edged blade for us newbies cry.gif cry.gif

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