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post Nov 18 2012, 01:50 PM

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Hi All,

I'm a newbie here but i've been trading for awhile now. I just moved back to Malaysia. I'll try to join the discussions soon, still going through the threads.


Added on November 18, 2012, 2:10 pm
QUOTE(AllnGap @ Nov 15 2012, 01:06 PM)
why u guys wanna trade using ECN ??

bros and sis, the real ECN trades is for really super high volume, are you trading millions per trade ?
All our our retail FX are merely bucketshop or supported by ECN.

True ECN environment are contract based, it's not supported by MT4. Thus it will always have slippage.

Just make sure that the fx broker you open account with is a good company and wont close down after a while la.
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hi,

I'm new to lowyat forum, i just saw your post and just wanted to add my comment. ECN is not as bad as you think, yes, you'll need higher volume but if you're an intraday trader, it's worth considering.

For example, FXCM (http://www.fxcm.co.uk/active-trader.jsp) charges commission of about USD7 per 100k lot - which is USD 0.7 per mini lot. So, in money terms, if you trade more than USD 0.70 per pip, then it's worth considering changing already. Of course, the real savings come when you trade in even larger volume.

No idea why but lots of brokers that are advertising in M'sia have REALLY high spreads. So, I think people should be more aware of this and either move to ECN accounts or change brokers. Well, that's just my personal view.

Lastly, FYI, I'm using MT4 on a ECN type account. This is nothing new and it's been there for awhile now. Slippage is unavoidable but you'll get slippage even in non-ECN environment. However, as you know that FX rarely slips, so, in the longer term, the slippage is really negligible.

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post Nov 19 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Nov 18 2012, 07:25 PM)
Good stuff explaining...post like this inspires more worthwhile discussion than some post promoting this and that.

So, just to satisfy my curiosity, any recommended ECN accounts? I have heard of FX Open AUS, their review wasnt that bad either.
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haha.. interesting that you said that, I did try to market my website but I was trying to promote trading psychology (i'm a blogger who is trying to write ebooks to sell). however, I realise that retail traders (as oppose to institutional traders) don't really care about trading psychology, so I'm slowly giving up on trying to stop ppl from gambling.. when they see the promo posts, they all get excited. blink.gif oh well.. such is life

anyway, I'm using FXCM and Axitrader.

As I mentioned on the other post, FXCM charges USD7 per 100k lot, Axi charges about AUD$7 per 100k lot. AUDUSD is near-ish parity, so they are not too much diff. I know for certain that FXCM is a safe broker (they are pretty big, i THINK they are listed in US stock exchange and they also own http://www.dailyfx.com/). Axi is an Australian regulated broker, they keep their money mainly in HSBC, so, again, pretty safe.

if you're really keen to open with them, I have a promo code where I can get cashback, happy to split the money. PM me if you're interested. And NO, I don't work for either of them but this is my marketing for today.. lol..

FX Open seem to have good rates (see link) but not sure what their commission is and don't know their background, so can't comment.

http://www.fxintel.com/

Hope that helps.


Added on November 19, 2012, 12:36 pm
QUOTE(AllnGap @ Nov 19 2012, 08:43 AM)
i'm trading on AdmiralMarkets on EU is 1pip spread(AUD=3, GBP=2) during liquid hours.

the other thing is not slippage. it's how the broker rip you off when you place orders as the price will move a pip higher or lower.

that is why i dont buy all those low spread marketing. it's fixed spread and accurate placing of bets that matters.

There is no ECN for small accounts. They can call it ECN but it's not the real ECN.
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hey AllnGap,

I think I understand now but I also think there's some gap in what you're saying.

AdmiralMarkets is actually an ECN account too. However, there are 2 types of ECN account

- raw + spread (var commission)
- raw + commission (fix commission)

if you are on the standard account, you are paying a variable commission. This is a lot more transparent because you can see the spread and you know what you're paying. nonetheless, I have to agree with you, fix commission is less transparent and it can be quite annoying if you don't understand.

anyway, just sharing my view.

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post Nov 30 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(yshon @ Nov 29 2012, 07:27 PM)
personally i trade with oanda for 3 years, quite ok. never try etoro.
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I think etoro has pretty high spreads


Added on November 30, 2012, 9:09 am
QUOTE(solstice818 @ Nov 27 2012, 02:38 AM)
Ok, I guess I am noobie in forex but what is etoro? My fingers are too lazy to move around to click google search
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lol.. at least you're honest about being lazy.. tongue.gif


Added on November 30, 2012, 9:16 am
QUOTE(tyrons @ Nov 26 2012, 03:38 PM)
Hello all!

I have been reading about forex trading since 2 months ago and started a demo account with fxcm but I am still a noob and not able to grasp the basic yet.

Anywhere online or books that I can read to further understand?

Thanks!
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try http://www.babypips.com/school/

everything up to Grade 2 is a must read. Personally, I'd recommend Grade 3-4 but would ignore Grade 5. Read all of them a few times before moving to higher grades.
There's no fix rules to this but be careful not to overload yourself.

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post Dec 4 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(eToro Team @ Dec 4 2012, 01:47 AM)
Hi flipflap!

eToro's spreads vary by instruments, and can go as low as 2/3 pips (for EUR/USD or USD/JPY for instance). These are pretty standard spreads for a non-dealing-desk broker. Being a non-dealing desk broker means that eToro makes all its money from spreads because all the trades are executed on the exchange automatically. Thus, you might pay a little more in spreads, but you also have the security of knowing that your broker is not trading against you. On the contrary, the more profits you make, the more trades you open, and the more spread money we make smile.gif

For everyone here who's never tried eToro, I recommend heading over to openbook.etoro.com to check out our social trading network. There's no need to register and you can find out how eToro social trading works and also what our traders say about us on their discussion boards!

Happy trading!
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Hi Andy,

I agree, 2-3 pips is decent. However, I trade with AxiTrader and they operate like you guys. Their spreads are 1-2 pips for (EURUSD or USDJPY), they are non-dealing desk as well. And this is a no-commission account.

Anyway, have a nice day!

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post Jan 24 2013, 05:44 PM

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hi guys, looks like some decent discussions here. unfortunately I don't follow/trade news, so can't really comment at this stage
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post Jan 25 2013, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(poks @ Jan 24 2013, 08:12 PM)
boyvai ..
look at 4H. bounce off support.
1D indecision bar. best bet is reversal. where to enter? can't help you there biggrin.gif
draw some diamond for fun..
looking at nzdusd.. 4H  to retest 0.84391.
break that level, putting some short..
tayor..

mr flipflap, decent = good
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Pok - thanks.

Nice ABC pattern (your diamond) on gbpjpy there.. I'm gonna stay out of JPY & crosses, JPY looks over extended but JPY has always been a weird one.. I'm just gonna stay out and keep watching..

Anyway, I'm watching Gold at the moment.. waiting for it to break the long term trend line to go short
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post Jan 25 2013, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(poks @ Jan 25 2013, 09:41 AM)
flipflap,
lol, that diamond is just to point out to boyvai since he do trade patterns.

i'll be careful shorting gold at this moment. closed mine earlier last night since shorting earlier this week. atm, it seem gold having a problem diving down which i'll stay out of.. then again it's just  my pov.

jpy & chf pairs are risky to trade. but when the movement says so, there are nothing i can do except to follow orders  biggrin.gif

btw, is that your website (on your siggy?)
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Hi Pok,

Yup, i write a lot on Trading Psychology.

I'm in Gold now, short since it broke below the low of 22/1 daily bar. SL at BE now, so jsut going to watch. I agree with you tho.. Gold is not very clear... will see how the bar closes at the end of today.

haha.. nice one.. keep it simple.. just follow the orders thumbup.gif

I haven't looked at chf & crosses until recently..
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post Jan 26 2013, 11:00 AM

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Just my thought. Not a Elliott Wave trader but I quite like this one.



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post Jan 28 2013, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 27 2013, 12:49 PM)
imo this week the price might not pass 3500 area,next week maybe  sweat.gif

now i feel regret abit didnt take long earlier,my system already give buy signal but 'some' pro trader at forexfactory keep saying the price never reach 3400 area,next time need to make decision by myself  sad.gif
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Hi Project68,

Sorry, hope you don't mind me saying. I thnk you should start to learn to trust your own analysis. Its good to know how others analyse the market but its dangerous to rely on others. Instead, learn to make mistakes. Maybe demo trade them if you're not sure?

anyway, just my 2 cents. ignore me if you think its irrelevant.
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post Jan 29 2013, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 28 2013, 10:49 AM)
its alright,usually i didnt trust other people too,but since last week eurusd price action is really ****ed up,i didnt have the guts to take long order since im trading with live account  sweat.gif
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haha.. I know how that feels, yen is equally screwed... I placed an order to go long on yen on the 9 Nov but messed up the trade by changing my stop, i still haven't found a good entry.. and well.. i guess I'm still kicking myself since then..

rules are rules.. such is the life of a trader i guess.. lol..

as for EU, price is very bullish at the moment, even the COT sentiment is changing, I'll need a technical set up to go long.. none for me yet.. sigh..
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post Jan 30 2013, 09:06 AM

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Is everyone a scalper here? What timeframes do you guys normally trade? sounds like hourly or smaller?
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post Jan 30 2013, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 29 2013, 12:02 PM)
haha,i still need alot to learn...btw i just change my new strategy,trying at demo account atm...

i've tried trade swing lately,i can't hold order too long(so stress just by looking at chart),right now my motto is set and forget scalp trade...  sweat.gif

sl 15 pips tp 10 pips...

hope this will be my only and last strategy  tongue.gif
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sounds contradicting tho? trying to swing but tp 10 pips?

i have a feeling this is not your last strategy.. lol.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 30 2013, 12:18 PM)
ps; so far my scalping still doing great,yesterday 4 order in profit =40 pips profit,will see average result in 1 month before trade on live account
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oh sorry, I wasn't trying to ditch you.. just wasn't sure how to scalp with tp 10pips. but I see what you're doing now..

make sure to use brokers with small spreads.. 1pip spread is already 10% cost of a 10pip target

well done on the 4 trades smile.gif
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post Jan 31 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 30 2013, 01:54 PM)
my current broker spread is 1-2,right now thinking of changing to new broker with lower spread  sweat.gif
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If you're only trading EU or majors, then just ask for commission type pro or ECN accounts in the future. You pay commission but the spreads are about 0.5-0.8 pips. I think it's quite important for the way you're trading.. just make sure to check their commission la. Oh, and you'll need a slightly bigger account of course.

anyway, just a suggestion and good luck smile.gif
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post Jan 31 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 31 2013, 04:15 PM)
thinking of changing to ecn too but not enough budget right now,need to buy superbike next month  brows.gif
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Priorities = checked

lol..
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post Feb 5 2013, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(boyvai @ Feb 5 2013, 12:58 AM)
so silent..
any tips.sharing is caring lol
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hi boyvai,

not sure how you trade but I'm watching these:

AUDNZD Long at a weekly level
GBPNZD testing a major support level around 1.857
EURGBP approaching weekly downward trendline - drawn from 10/2009 high and 06/2011 high
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post Feb 7 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(long2292 @ Feb 6 2013, 07:08 PM)
May i know any body using withdraw with credit card?
After withdraw from forex company how to transfer fund from credit card?
As I know there is an option Cash Advance and it will charge 5%.
Is that mean if I transfer fund from credit card to my saving acct , I will be charge 5% as cash advance?
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hey long,

I'm using AxiTrader from Australia. they bank with HSBC

There will be bank admin fees but don't think there's a fix % charge.

They can transfer money to any of your account as long as you authorise them.

check them out if you're interested.

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