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Jeck10
post Aug 7 2013, 10:53 AM

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For all the sifus here, please give me some advice before I commit my hard earned money..

1. Learn by myself on how to trade,
Outcome/results: uncertain, or learn by mistakes.

Or

2. Join my friend in a forex group. Education, group discussion provided. Earn also by referring to others and earn commission(become ib). But need to open acc at least 10k.

Which one u guys will choose?
Jeck10
post Aug 7 2013, 11:34 AM

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Thanks for all the replies above. My friend is telling me this group exist for more than a year,(I don't know if I'm allowed to say the name here) and I will be depositing my money straight to the oversea broker not any 3rd parties ib. Of course they earn alot, and I guess half of it are from ppl joining them/spread. I also shocked when they are all 20ish and driving expensive cars.. My friend is a trustable friend, that's why I keep on thinking twice as he also keep saying he wants to help me. But of course I'm also afraid if anything happens and we all can't get our money back.
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post Aug 7 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(garmin888 @ Aug 7 2013, 11:38 AM)
Best you learn how to trade yourself with a demo account first before jumping in. Learn the basics so at least you understand what your friends are talking about. The best insurance is that you know what you are going in to.
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Thanks for the advice. Yea I'm currently learning the basics from babypips as suggested in this thread. Just like u said best insurance is that I know what I'm going into, that's why although my friend asked me to join first and then there will be ppl training me 1 on 1, I still don't feel confident.

QUOTE(tshin810 @ Aug 7 2013, 12:15 PM)
Drive expensive car not equal to rich. You know many MLM/marketing/insurance ppl buy expensive car just want to impress their potential customers that they are rich. You're one of their "potential customers" because of their cars smile.gif

You want to know if they are really profit? Ask your friend for his trading records since first day he trade. If he shows you, check if he use martinglae , or risk/reward like 10:1. Evaluate it or upload to here, let people discuss. But I doubt he will show you his records. If he gives excuses not to show his records, then you know what to do.
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Yea I know many ppl when they see a person got alot luxuries, then they tend to join them without knowing how things works actually.

QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Aug 7 2013, 12:25 PM)
Its funny when these so called 'fx trader' keep posting their mt4 screenshot with profits but when we ask them what's support and resistance level they don't know. guna robot letttewww.. -.-  Keep posting their luxury cars,LV bags and what not to lure others. Forex is just like any other investments and tradings. It's not all sweet.
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Yea I saw alot screen shots like those, but don't know how to understand all the numbers yet hahaha tongue.gif

QUOTE(babienn @ Aug 7 2013, 12:36 PM)
Is it Midc*FX which is the sub company of Magnad***, based in Indonesia?
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Yes for the former and not sure for the latter.
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post Aug 8 2013, 04:17 PM

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Demoing for the first time, learning the basics and also trying to familiarize with basic buying and selling. But I have parts that I'm very confused..

1. When I choose 'volume' 1.0, what does it mean? From what I saw my 1 pip = 10$?

2. Before I buy or sell, the value of spread keeps changing, how do I know which one is the spread they charge me?

3. Is there a maximum duration to hold on the pairs? Is there any recommendation or its solely depends on what type of traders you are?

Thank you in advance...smile.gif


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post Aug 8 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Aug 8 2013, 05:02 PM)
1. volume 1 lot = $10 if currency related to USD. I think it's not $10 for pair like EURJPY but I am not sure, never learn to calculate it tongue.gif

2. Spread is wider when a pair in high volatility/activity. Some brokers provide fixed spread.

3. No max duration until you hit Stop Loss. When you demo for longer time, you'll know if you are scalper, swing trader, or long term trader. If you're busy, H4 is probably better choice.
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So when is my spread amount decided? When I place my order? Or when I decided to stop loss or take profit? And where do I see them? Coz like from the screen shot I can't see where is the spread amount.

And if there's no duration to hold, why don't all the ppl just keep waiting until they reach back to winning position if they are losing?

If I'm very free, what strategy do u suggest? tongue.gif
QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Aug 8 2013, 05:49 PM)
1 lot is equal to 100,000 units of base currency. but the lot sometimes depends on broker also. Like instaforex, 1 lot = 10,000 units if im not mistaken. Btw, how did you open those positions, i mean whats ur strategy?  brows.gif
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Er then how much is the value of 1 unit of currency? Haha.
And those strategy ar..I called them total luck and speculation haha..I don't know any strategy yet la..was just trying to test how to buy and sell..smile.gif
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post Aug 9 2013, 08:06 AM

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[quote=tshin810,Aug 8 2013, 06:39 PM]
On the chart, right click -> Trading -> New order. You can see the spread on live. Spread is decided when you execute an order. If you long for price of 1.50000 and you get 2.5 spread, you will see price of 1.50025.

If you interested in lot price calculation, you should go read babypips.com.

Yea I'm in the school of pipsology now haha.. Never expected it to be so much things to study!

I see so it means that the price shown when I execute a buy/sell is already added/deducted the spread?

And other than spread is there any other charges?

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post Aug 9 2013, 06:35 PM

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This is my demo today, after the big mistake -200$ plus I tried to trade more conservatively..

I was using the bollinger bands, RSI and stochastic oscillator, but actually I'm really not sure am I reading them the right way.. I haven't try using support and resistance yet..

Actually is my method of trading ok? Coz I only aim for around +-10pips.. While I see u guys all have like 50 or 100 pips above.

And one more question, lets say mine have 5 decimal points and the spread is 5. Then the 5 is equal to 5 pips or 5 pipettes?


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post Aug 10 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Aug 9 2013, 07:44 PM)
If it has 5 decimal points, the last decimal is pipettes.
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So the spread they showed is 5 pipettes or 5 pips?
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post Aug 10 2013, 12:59 PM

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Haha thank you guys..now I understand, and I guess the profit/loss shown is already included the spread, coz when I'm closing the trade there's 2 numbers shown..1 should be the market value 1 is with the spread.
So today no trade? smile.gif
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post Aug 10 2013, 01:49 PM

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I'm a demo trader too, but always dreamt of the demo profit is real...XD

So ProperTYcoon are u a full time trader?

Today no 'practical', time to spend more time study in pipsology school..smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2013, 06:34 PM

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+-70 pips today..mostly on usdjpy pair..too bad it's only demo...tongue.gif
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post Aug 12 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Aug 12 2013, 06:56 PM)
my demo 97.6pips today biggrin.gif i wish it was real too.
but my real only lock down 18pips today. hope more to come at night biggrin.gif
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Ah nice nice..smile.gif u doing both demo and real? The demo will help your live trading or not? Like indicators or something?
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post Aug 13 2013, 12:27 PM

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Lets say Usd strong against Jpy, and CAD around same strength as Usd, then can we assume that CAD will be strong against Jpy as well?

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post Aug 13 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(sebastian.twz @ Aug 13 2013, 03:36 PM)
Canada has trade dealings with USA, so their economy will be dependent on each other, something like Europe and UK. But this doesnt mean that if USD falls, CAD will fall; remember, nothing is set in stone in the FX market.

For your example, if the reason USD is strong against JPY is because Japan's screwed, then CAD will probably strong against JPY ( because JPY is weak against all major currencies due to its own fault)

However, if USD is strong against JPY because USA's economy is recovering, CAD might/might not appreciate against the JPY ; the reason is explained above.
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I see..thank you very much for the explanation..biggrin.gif
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post Aug 13 2013, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Aug 13 2013, 06:36 PM)
Anyone joining the party tonight?
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PARTYYY!!!!! biggrin.gif


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post Aug 14 2013, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Aug 13 2013, 09:36 PM)
wa 2lots so pia?
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Useless one..demo only haha..tongue.gif
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post Aug 14 2013, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Aug 14 2013, 11:15 AM)
gain confidence 1st~
but real account i don't you will so pia~
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Haha of course if real account won't be like that..
Need to learn to be confident yet not greedy, that's the difficult part to master..smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(ProperTYcoon @ Aug 14 2013, 01:00 PM)
sometimes, it works another way round for some traders

Demo = Profit
Live = Loss
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Yea that's wat I'm really scared about..
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post Aug 14 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(ProperTYcoon @ Aug 14 2013, 03:30 PM)
my worse nightmare when i was a newbie.

-losing 50pip
-add another bet

-went down to 70pip + 20pip

-straight downhill to 100pip + 50pip

total lost 150pip 0.3 lot  biggrin.gif
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Yea it's exactly the same like ppl at genting lost all their money, then want to borrow money to win back what they had lost, and ended up lost everything..tongue.gif
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post Aug 14 2013, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(ProperTYcoon @ Aug 14 2013, 05:31 PM)
that's the typical theory of Gambling, always remember remember and remember.

in Forex, its either we make our best research to "Gain" in a trade or walk away with "Loss"

Everyone faces the "RED Situation", calm down, take a rest and start again tomorrow if you were hit with a big slap on your face
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Thanks so much for the advice, really appreciate and will remember them..smile.gif
Today is not really a good day, still waiting for them to go my way..confident with my decision but currently 4 trades in red...:s really testing my mental haha.

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