QUOTE(Andihfx @ Jan 17 2013, 08:21 PM)
ok ok thxForex Version XI, Foreign Exchange Market Discussion
Forex Version XI, Foreign Exchange Market Discussion
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Jan 18 2013, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(Andihfx @ Jan 17 2013, 08:21 PM) ok ok thx |
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Jan 18 2013, 11:36 AM
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Jan 18 2013, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Shah.Legno @ Jan 18 2013, 11:36 AM) when i start as a newbie in trading...i like to do scalping... can share with me your experience how you started,i already know the basic cz my bro is doin it,but i still cant read the price action chartbut.. when i realised be a scalper is quiet exhausted.... i change to swing trading... it's much better for me... you can choose, which skill u comfortable with... |
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Jan 18 2013, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jan 18 2013, 11:43 AM) Why would you need representation when everything is done online? Just like how you are talking to us online WITHOUT even the need to know who we are. With the current technology (combined with old school bank wire transfer), you can start an account, transfer your deposit and start trading in less than a week. Thanks for the information. Really helpful.The representation here are IBs and not the broker themselves. IBs are like sales agents for the broker to make things easier. They help you open an account and accept your money to help you deposit into your account, something that you can do in less than 5 mins filling up the bank wire transfer form in Maybank and wait 30 mins in queue to get done. The IB still have to wire transfer your money into the broker who does not have a local account for the IB to do so. That is why they are charging a higher rate as the banks will charge them a wire transfer charge. Anybody can be a representative of the broker. Some brokers don't even care as long as you can intro new members. The IBs get a cut of your trading and give the impression of it being an MLM (wait... didn't somebody just asked about forex being like an MLM...hmmmm). It is not MLM as this is the only way the IB is paid for their effort of 'representing' the broker and providing assistance and help. I'm not saying that every IB is bad.. but you have to take your chances and it might be a good place to learn if you have a good supportive IB who is willing to help. You can use it as a stepping stone with small amount as risk or 'tuition fees'. The rest you can learn online. |
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Jan 18 2013, 01:05 PM
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There are so many broker in the market. Which one is recommended? Any advice from the pro's?
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Jan 18 2013, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Shah.Legno @ Jan 18 2013, 11:36 AM) when i start as a newbie in trading...i like to do scalping... imo scalping is less stress,exhausted?forex is exhausted job really,no matter what kind of technique you use you still need to be in front of computer all day,except using EA of course,with scalping let say per day you manage to get 10-15 pips per trade = 3 trade average per day x 5 x 4 = 50 pip per week, 200 pip per month not bad at all..but.. when i realised be a scalper is quiet exhausted.... i change to swing trading... it's much better for me... you can choose, which skill u comfortable with... |
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Jan 18 2013, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 18 2013, 03:08 PM) imo scalping is less stress,exhausted?forex is exhausted job really,no matter what kind of technique you use you still need to be in front of computer all day,except using EA of course,with scalping let say per day you manage to get 10-15 pips per trade = 3 trade average per day x 5 x 4 = 50 pip per week, 200 pip per month not bad at all.. Yes..scalping..is totally make u exhausted, because your execution must be fast enough to take the advantage of the price. |
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Jan 18 2013, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(Shah.Legno @ Jan 18 2013, 03:37 PM) Yes..scalping..is totally make u exhausted, because your execution must be fast enough to take the advantage of the price. did you normally open order through chart?not using script based?example script that i use when i press alt+a for buy and alt+s for sell and alt+d to close all trade,i;ve been doing this for almost a year without any problem,what broker did you use anyway? ps;for swing trader must have alot of experience where to open and close order,otherwise your profit will turn to breakeven or even worse loss... This post has been edited by project68: Jan 18 2013, 03:46 PM |
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Jan 18 2013, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 16 2013, 03:23 PM) i've used and tested so many indicators (sad to say about 1.5k+ indicators).....finally just use 1 indicator to check whether the trend is still intact or not. i've been using overbought/sold indicator for my scalping system and it works like a charm,obviously i didnt use only one indicator,there are several indicator to filter/confirmation all the overbought oversold indicator all throw out....... secret is to read the chart (Price Action) and catch the tail. By the time your indicator ask you to buy/sell i've already taken my profits |
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Jan 18 2013, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 18 2013, 03:43 PM) did you normally open order through chart?not using script based?example script that i use when i press alt+a for buy and alt+s for sell and alt+d to close all trade,i;ve been doing this for almost a year without any problem,what broker did you use anyway? Scalping is a technique that i use when i start trading as a beginner before, long time ago...so as a beginner at that time, i don't know how to use a script base order...ps;for swing trader must have alot of experience where to open and close order,otherwise your profit will turn to breakeven or even worse loss... i'm more comfortable now with swing trading, because i make analysis at various timeframe from M15 to Monthly.. btw i using XE market & Ironfx.. |
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Jan 18 2013, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Shah.Legno @ Jan 18 2013, 04:01 PM) Scalping is a technique that i use when i start trading as a beginner before, long time ago...so as a beginner at that time, i don't know how to use a script base order... good for you lol,but my brain can't process too much data especially when need to open many timeframe i'm more comfortable now with swing trading, because i make analysis at various timeframe from M15 to Monthly.. btw i using XE market & Ironfx.. im using exness btw could you upload screenshot of your trade history,just want to know how you trade swing This post has been edited by project68: Jan 18 2013, 04:11 PM |
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Jan 18 2013, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Jan 18 2013, 04:09 PM) good for you lol,but my brain can't process too much data especially when need to open many timeframe everybody got different technique in trading, so they can stick with the one that profitable to them....im using exness btw could you upload screenshot of your trade history,just want to know how you trade swing for the screenshot i already post 3 screenshot at previous page of this thread... u can check my screenshot back at the previous page... |
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Jan 18 2013, 04:32 PM
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Jan 20 2013, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(gaTO @ Dec 6 2012, 10:40 AM) If I trade forex full-time and if I wanna buy a house/car/etc and I want to take loans, I kinda need like a source of income. I just wanna know any of you guys actually declare your forex profit as income. Car loan shouldn't be so difficult, if you have 1 or 2 credit card with good credit report and good bank statement it can be done. Buying a property is the tricky part. What i've learn from the past, consult your loan officer.. say he/she said you must at least earn RM 5k a month for you to entitle to buy the property that you want.. Cheers.. then....... go kawtim your tax for RM 60k a year lo.. just my noob toughs |
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Jan 21 2013, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(chetz @ Jan 20 2013, 01:59 PM) Car loan shouldn't be so difficult, if you have 1 or 2 credit card with good credit report and good bank statement it can be done. Buying a property is the tricky part. What i've learn from the past, consult your loan officer.. say he/she said you must at least earn RM 5k a month for you to entitle to buy the property that you want.. You can't have an EA form if you are not employed. Unfortunately Malaysian Banks do not recognise personal income (aka capital gains from investment, freelance work, etc) as actual income as long as you are not employed. You can still pay taxes but banks will not process your loan as long as you do not have an EA form. You can make your forex investment into a business and have a SDN BHD company but then you have to operate as a company and have audits and taxed as a company. Trying to get loans by just showing good credit and a fat bank account is not enough.then....... go kawtim your tax for RM 60k a year lo.. just my noob toughs Loans for business is even harder to get, which is why there are so many loan schemes for small businesses because they can't just walk up to any bank to get loans for their small business. That is why moving to full time trading (not just forex but other trading too) is not just a matter of quitting your job and sit at home to trade. You have to have a substantial amount of money to ensure that you leave behind both the employment and banking systems. This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jan 21 2013, 09:25 AM |
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Jan 22 2013, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(boyvai @ Jan 18 2013, 07:19 AM) wake up this morning with full of smile lol. elliott wave count on gbpjpy.gbpjpy wave b completed?resistance area atm.double top tfh4 or daily chart? eurojpy daily chart break the resistance already.but look at the highest top at aprill 2011. wave b probably completed as we can see nice rally down.waiting to complete the C wave and wave 4.maybe 38.2% or 50% fibo?typical correction wave a,b,c.but,if gbpjpy continue further down,harmonic Pattern* on weekly chart is valid. tayor. Yen should be interesting this month. This post has been edited by boyvai: Jan 23 2013, 02:34 AM |
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Jan 24 2013, 01:52 AM
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At H4 timeframe i predict, EU will go uptrend bullish back....anybody got their own analysis?
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Jan 24 2013, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(boyvai @ Jan 22 2013, 05:34 PM) elliott wave count on gbpjpy. boyvai, i was looking at 1D chart for this pair,wave b probably completed as we can see nice rally down.waiting to complete the C wave and wave 4.maybe 38.2% or 50% fibo?typical correction wave a,b,c.but,if gbpjpy continue further down,harmonic Pattern* on weekly chart is valid. tayor. careful with your short. i see long on 1D. tayor.. have a look at 1D gold This post has been edited by poks: Jan 24 2013, 07:30 AM |
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Jan 24 2013, 06:49 AM
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Jan 24 2013, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(poks @ Jan 24 2013, 06:49 AM) i don't see up or down. Thanks for your analysis... it's well supported at the same time it hesitate to go up. if u ask me, i'll skip or i'll short. There is some reason why i say the bull trend will back... because EU is in sideway trend now, but at TF H4...i see the long candle spike & bollinger band extreme price setup for buy.. this is just my sentiment analysis.. wait until 3 pm....we will see the movement.. This post has been edited by Shah.Legno: Jan 24 2013, 08:54 AM |
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