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post Nov 2 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(GHz @ Nov 2 2012, 03:12 PM)
LOL rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif .

That's very bad management. Advertise cheap flight until company losing money for years.
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I think they mentioned something like the London & Paris routes were losing money (they stopped that), but their Aussie routes are good, maybe China/ India one also, maybe should look into quarterly result for any sign of turnaround, I prefer not to study until the full prospectus is out... cannot subscribe until then anyway... yawn.gif Buy or no buy all depends on the fundamental and prospective of the company and price of the issue...

Another thing to watch is their auxiliary income aka baggage and food and drink, not many ppl can tahan a few hours flight without drink, and food if longer route...
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post Nov 6 2012, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Nov 5 2012, 05:27 PM)
in for MITI.
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What's the indicative price for MITI?
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Nov 6 2012, 09:17 AM)
this is a good game... but at least we know know that they are targeting for 0.95 initially.
I think it will end up at 1.25 there about
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This one got a bit of interest, but I shall wait until public prospectus was out then study... yawn.gif Anyone done advanced study? notworthy.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(nasT @ Nov 6 2012, 10:17 AM)
i'm in all channel. come rain or shine... let's whack - big time.  biggrin.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 6 2012, 11:14 AM)
Actually how you differentiate if the plane you're boarding belongs to Airasia and Airasia X?
I always get confused.  hmm.gif
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The flight number is D0xxx I think, AA Malaysia one is AKxxx.
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post Nov 6 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 6 2012, 11:19 AM)
Try the airline and the service before you buy the shares. As Peter Lynch says, the best stocks pickings are the ones you experience yourself...


Added on November 6, 2012, 11:20 am
QZ = Air Asia Indonesia
FD = Air Asia Thailand

Just more codes for you... biggrin.gif
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I only need the number that sure strike in Magnum/4D/Toto... code is unless to me... tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 6 2012, 11:25 AM)
Ish, even though I prefer SIA, still won't buy the shares. The SARS event made me realised that airlines are too damn volatile to everything. Even in Europe when the Iceland volcano erupted, 1 whole Europe cannot fly...  sweat.gif

So natural disasters, fuel price, war, economy, inflation, accidents etc in any part of the world also can affect the share of an international airline.

International airlines are subjected to so many risk factors and are not isolated to countries risk factors, but regional factors and continental factors as well. Even universal factors when our sun decide do some solar flaring for kicks.
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SIA suffer some heavy losses on cargo last Q, and they have piles of cash on their balance sheet, they are so stable compare to other airline (no need to mention our national disgrace...) but that's pretty amazing how AA made their profit from their strip-down-to-bone model, those ppl who buy probably hope AAX will emulate the same model, and medium/ long haul budget airline still don't have a beaten path for them to follow, but if eventually if they succeed in finding the path, the future might be bright... Let's see how is the price first...


Added on November 6, 2012, 11:38 am
QUOTE(nasT @ Nov 6 2012, 11:35 AM)
good sign.. kachingg..

8% return on listing day is decent for me.  tongue.gif
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Still remember Astro? brows.gif

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post Nov 6 2012, 12:49 PM

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[quote=nasT,Nov 6 2012, 11:48 AM]

Added on November 6, 2012, 11:38 am
Still remember Astro? brows.gif
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Against the undercurrent, i made 5k profit with astro on day one... biggrin.gif.

For this AAX, i would say they would not dare to price it high. As a revised business strategy they will load more flights to china & oceania routes. So i reckon they should be ok.
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Think Astro actually putting many back to the fundamental, instead of applying blindly... so if AAX going to overprice their share, the opening might be ugly... Business prospect I agree with you, the future seems to be cautiously optimistic for them, but they need to watch out for their balance sheet (that remind me of AA, initially when they took large delivery of aircraft, the gearing is kind of scary...).


Added on November 6, 2012, 12:53 pm[quote=skiddtrader,Nov 6 2012, 11:48 AM]
Yeah SIA is doing well in terms of their branding and also they are in based in Singapore which is like the capital of South East Asia, no offense intended for other countries. With hundreds of international flights in and out of Singapore, they aren't really worried about lack of customers, unless of course another SARS event happens which basically crippled their entire fleet in SG at that time. That's their greatest weakness being stuck on an island nation which depends on foreign trade and international business. Imagine if SARS was prolonged, if the infections did not end as fast as it did. SIA can close shop already with all their planes grounded and will probably be another airline failure story.
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On SIA, that's one of the most important companies for Singapore, that's why the outcome is kind of stable, with near term growth expectation low (no where to move liao), they are busy expanding their low cost (tiger, scoot, silk air) with mixed result. Unless the economy outcome suddenly bright or their strategy success, else I see not much upside on their share price, didn't monitor for long liao...

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post Nov 6 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 6 2012, 01:15 PM)
Yeah I would say SIA is LKY's pet project. Not allowed to fail.

During the union fiasco last time where a Malaysian pilot working under permit was the leader, he was organising a strike that would ground the airplanes of SIA if negotiations for better pilot pay was not conclusive. Guess what, his permit to work was cancelled, he was declared not welcome in SG and was booted back to MY. The union leadership collapse and a new union was formed and the agreement for pay was signed in favour of SIA.  sweat.gif  Power or not?
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Haha... for now, forget about SIA... we are at AAX thread...
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post Feb 26 2014, 02:53 PM

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In thick of action today, bought some and hope... but worry might throw in my hat too early...
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post Feb 26 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 26 2014, 04:06 PM)
What price you enter ? If 0.85, now you got KFC. biggrin.gif
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Don't have leh, 0.87 blush.gif tonight have to cook porridge with salted vege liao sad.gif
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post Feb 26 2014, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 26 2014, 05:01 PM)
AA still green today. Net net Tony still smile. biggrin.gif
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Because of this:
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1550649
Share buy back...
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 26 2014, 07:03 PM)
Tough to get @ 85 coz 1700 lots ony
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True...
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post Feb 27 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Feb 27 2014, 01:40 PM)
That report was done nearly a year ago - Monday, July 22, 2013
So not that relevant to determine current price.
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Finally someone notice the date tongue.gif
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QUOTE(HeHeHunter @ Feb 27 2014, 07:40 PM)
Yes, I am still holding since IPO and my very first hit IPO. I wonder how about those who have more.  cry.gif
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Feel bad for you, but sometime life is like that... maybe someday it might end up like Air Asia, Air Asia initially also rugi teruk...
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post Feb 27 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Feb 27 2014, 11:02 PM)
where does AAX get its profits? Is it just from international flights?

while all domestic flights revenue goes to AA??
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Long haul flight, it is also feeder to AA, vice versa...
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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ May 20 2014, 10:36 PM)
oil price increase dude
not going rise
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What say you? You are replying on a post dated in March when the price is 0.79? Now already 0.8+? Good morning!
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post May 21 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(jaychow @ May 21 2014, 10:39 AM)
Yeap suddenly rocketed up, good news from latest Q closing. Still lost but revenue up.
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Because the losing trend seems reversed, if like that, probably they should be back to black in 3Q or 4Q, couple with growing revenue, that might be the positive that market is looking for.
Offload some of my holding...
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post Jul 24 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 24 2014, 04:02 PM)
MAS-AirAsia X merger rumour "a long shot", says Maybank
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...ys-maybank.html

No wonder, past few days up-up only  hmm.gif
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If that happened, guess AAX will go down instead...
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 24 2014, 04:56 PM)
plane or share price  brows.gif
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Don't be so bad lah... they are human just like you and me...

I am so scared now, next week have to fly... sad.gif

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