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post Nov 1 2012, 10:29 PM

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AsiaX reported 1H2012 result a pretax loss.
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post Jun 10 2013, 10:31 PM

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estimated EPS for 2013 approx 0.08 cents. PE comes to around 18 times. No dividends expected for some years.
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post Jun 11 2013, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(woengx2 @ Jun 11 2013, 01:15 PM)
We can see from their IPO prospectus and based on the audited financial result :

Y2012 : PBT = RM38M

The total market cap after IPO = RM3.4B

Therefore, the price of RM1.45/share is actually trading at the PE = ±90 if we based on the Y2012 PBT above.

In a longer term is still yet to see but I will definite avoid it from my radar.
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if u look at its unaudited result of 3 months ended 31 -3-13, its PBT is 34,765. The 2012 result is already outdated. In my view its prospective PE is around 18 times if u annualised the 3 months result.

Whether u can make a gain no one knows. For the parent AirAsia to reach its price today, it took almost 10 years if I am not wrong. I sold all my shares on the 1st day of its listing.

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post Jun 11 2013, 10:25 PM

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I do not think the latest 3 months figures are not so reliable just because it has not passed through the auditors. It offers a glimpse as to what results the company has already achieved.
It reminds me of the final month of 1997 when Maybank reported brillant results but it share price kept falling. It was that the economic prospects of 1998 are getting dimmer by the day & it was expected that Maybank would be badly affected going forward even though it reported the good results. What use was it then? Share prices are forward looking.

Of course, there are limits to Airasia's expansion. Its longer haul routes have proved unprofitable but then the cheaper air fares are the main attraction.

It is better to know if those approved investors by MITI are offered a lower price than that the public is paying. We have seen investors selling Astro shares below the IPO offer price.

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post Jun 14 2013, 07:04 PM

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Thanks river.sand for sharing the report. Essentially, the IPO price is roughly the market price. Wonder if there are any peanuts left for IPO investors.
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post Jun 15 2013, 12:41 AM

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"in the long term, we are all dead", Thanks for informing. Obviously, it is for the long term. With so many others (FSC & LCC) joining in for their market share, probably AirAsia X would make modest profits.
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post Jun 21 2013, 07:08 PM

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The price stabiling manager was sleeping during Astro's listing. I hope this time he is awake. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jul 11 2013, 08:27 PM

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It is for the long term. Tony said "keep it for 5 years"
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post Jul 11 2013, 10:39 PM

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the lesson is all IPOs now are priced at market price. The owners extract maximum value of their shares for the listing. Gone are the days when pink forms guarantee big gain
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post Jul 15 2013, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(cckiong @ Jul 15 2013, 07:40 PM)
i think maybank will run out of bullet soon as the stabilizing manager.
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Its bullets are limited. When there are no bullets left, its role would automatically end.
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post Jul 18 2013, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(se7enteenGuy @ Jul 18 2013, 06:48 PM)
so Maybank main holder, what they plan to do with it ?
push the price down?
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to maintain the IPO price, I suppose

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post Jul 26 2013, 11:32 PM

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Tony has already ask investors to hold the shares for at least 5 years which means there may be no short term gains.
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post Oct 16 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(maldiniho @ Oct 16 2013, 03:41 PM)
after so many years playing stocks, i have never saw any stock hits the TP set by the research house paper I read. So I have never read any analyst paper since
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If u buy at TP, it means u have no money to make. They say u may make $ in the long term. But how long is 'long term'.
John Maynard keynes puts it correctly (he is referring to letting recession heals itself instead of government taking proactive measures to end it): "In the long term, we are all dead".
That is probably why no investor wants to buy at TP biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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