It amazed me as to how on earth did he not injured his arm when he thrown himself into the ground like that...
But well that's a good one from our fellow top striker in PL...

Eh. X best la chat here now. Like politic thread la one polishing another shoes here. I though this was liverpool thread. Like some kitchen with aunties level of conversation

Alright, can we get back to football discussions?

I've only seen the first half of the Derby, but a few points stood out for me:
- Since the Norwich game, I've noticed that whenever Sahin's playing, the opposition tends to find space in the midfield. It's even more prominent during the derby where time after time he's seen jogging back to position where else a lively Allen was running around struggling to cover all areas. One have to wonder if this is the reason Mourinho decided to shun him in Madrid. To me it's just a matter of commitment and work ethics, he needs to work on it or risk getting sidelined when Lucas returns.

- As solid as Brad Jones has been so far, his weakness was on display on Sunday. He was partially liable for the first goal where his punch landed right outside of the box. More worrying though was his distribution - his tendency to hit it long, only to be collected by Everton who immediately puts us under pressure. Whilst he has been a good deputy, Pepe Reina has to play when he's fit.

- The success of the team is not just dependent on the manager's system and player's individual skills, but also on the nerves of the players. The strength of the player's mentality to withstand pressure is critical to a player's performance and I'm sure Sterling has learn that first-hand on Sunday. Glad to see Gerrard running over to the referee to protect Sterling, nobody else understands the pressure of a derby better than Stevie after all.

Eh eh i didnt started it okay. Lol i dont have any problem with other threads. As i say how i act depends how others act. I ok saje even in the city thread. I was talking football until 2 individuals came about trying to annoy me. It take 2 hands to clap la

Hahah... but it's not so much of a mental thing with Wisdom than it is a tactical one. He was Everton's main target and they threw Mirallas and Baines at him. Didn't help that Suso wasn't covering him much either but it's these situations where we missed Lucas the most.

As for Sahin, attacking player or not, it's just a matter of commitment. If a 17-year-old Sterling could sprint back to his own half to win the ball, I don't see why Sahin couldn't.

About Yesil, that is something I dont quite understand also. BR seems to be giving youngsters alot of chances but Yesil only get 1 chance? Morgan as well. As for Ngoo - niente (none).

I trust that he knows what's best for the team. Perhaps he feels Yesil, Morgan and Ngoo havent done alot yet to impress him for a start.

As for the youngsters in the game vs everton, the derby delivers a fiery kind of passion that some of the youngsters struggle. That is normal. Inexperience. I trust that they will come back stronger against Swansea.

sorry out of topic, breaking news. but i think its important that some of us know. sorry MODs



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I think this means you can't allocate your EPF savings to PB mutual funds any more...

if streaming what time??

sturridge, i dont know whats so special in him, we have got spain u21 striker in pacheco, why go for england u21... we need experienced goal poachers like drog or torr... i miss the chant nananananananaa... liverpool number 9.
btw, chelsea wont be so stupid let go him on loan after paying 50m... and we're not gonna pay him the two hundred grand per week... we cant afford that crazy money...

No proven striker, Defence cant defence well , How to depend on Suarez every game?

BR, you are not that good after all, You were good because Swansea was good then, not you 

again? a new manager? every year we change new manager? new staff? same old player? the frequent we change manager the lesser the owner will splash money for transfer.

we are tired with this, let just stick with BR and give him 1-2 season and lets keep our faith and believe, because we have no choice.

It's like learning how to drive lah. When you just started to take L license, you also look lost. Then after 1 year, you can drive while holding a chick's hand and singing "You'll never walk alone" and smile to her for few seconds.

After 2 years, you can cut queue and jump lane like Schumacher.

After 3 years, you can race with your mates in Batu Tiga.

Take time lah. LOL

Precisely. You sometimes get the feeling that these armchair critics follow the team's results but don't necessarily watch the match. Even with Steven Gerrard starting, we have one of the youngest teams in the league. Aside from Steven Gerrard the other 'veterans' in the team are Daniel Agger (27), Martin Skrtel (27), Luis Suarez (25) and Glen Johnson (28). I didn't include Reina because although he's 30, it's the equivalent of 25 as keepers can play well into their 30's. The team is a really young one and if we can keep the lads together, we'll have a decent side in the not too distant future. Chopping and changing doesn't guarantee sustained success unless you have the money to bring in big stars each season.

I agree, Martinez and Sousa started the transformation. Similarly as many have mentioned before, the reason we can call on so gifted youth players is partly because of Rafa.

That being said, I disagree with the critics who blame BR for our loss because quite simply he's doing the best he possibly can with what he's got. Granted, I may not have sold off Maxi or Kuyt, but he has an idea of what he wants. And the results may not be there right now but I believe a string of results will come. We don't want to have to keep undergoing 'transformation' periods. I'm pretty confident Rodgers has the moxie when push comes to shove.

I definitely don't hold a grudge against them for leaving or to BR for letting them go, I just feel that a good mixture of youth and proven experience would have helped us settle in at least the first year. That's purely my opinion of course, because we do have an experienced set right now, but it would've helped to have maxi and kuyt to take the load off suarez, gerrard, sterling and suso. Sometimes they look like they're struggling for breath. Carroll however, I'm not against us letting go. I actually see what BR means when he feels that Carroll can't fit in well, he's an excellent header of the ball, and knocks down well, but he just never got back into prime form. You could say that not having an experienced set of players gave our youth players a baptism of fire, and had we kept kuyt and maxi, i'm not sure if we'd have seen the likes of sterling in the pl.

For me, it's always a glass half full. There are few things you've pointed out that's worth discussing.

Personally, I thought we struck a good balance when we have Shelvey, Gerrard and Allen in the middle. With Sahin however, it tipped the balance and we lack the aggression that Shelvey brings to the table. Allen may be a decent holding player but his game suffers when he's expected to be covering all areas of the pitch. It's a bit harsh to suggest that the only improvement is the passing rate, but even so I believe there's still room for improvement. Ideally, you want the team to be able to pass the ball comfortably even under immense pressure. We shouldn't cave under pressure like we did against Everton. Of course, this takes time to develop but until we find the balance in midfield again, it's not something I expect to see on a match to match basis.

As for having the threat in the final third, I feel that we have made strides since the start of the season. If you recall in the first few matches, we were very wasteful in the final third. If there's something I thought we could improve on during Rafa's days, it's the patience in the final third. The ability to passing the ball around until a space or opportunity is presented. United is very, very good at that. However, you hit it on the nail that all of this possession amounts to nothing if it isn't finished. We lack of quality in that department, having failed to replace Maxi, Kuyt & Bellamy. Nevertheless, he has the option to go for short term solutions such as Downing and Cole, but instead he rather give the young ones game time. It's a bold move and he knows he is inviting pressure if results don't go his way. For that, I applaud his decision but when the next transfer window opens, I expect 1 or 2 signings to make up for the Carroll/Dempsey screw-up.
That's just painting one side of the picture, isn't it? When Benitez came in, the team finished 4th in the Premier League and qualified for the Champion's League in the previous season. The pressure to finish above top 4 in his first season was high and in some of his early interviews, he has repeatedly talked down pressure and said he needed time. Remember his "five year plan"? He understood that realistically we couldn't challenge for the Premier League in the near term. Eventually on his fifth season, he delivered on his promise by finally mounting a serious title challenge.

Thing is, our team has finished outside of top 5 for the past 3 seasons. Rafa, Woy, The King, H&G, FSG all have to take collective responsibility for that predicament. Brendan Rodgers has arrived at a very low point in the club's recent history and to ask his team to dream of winning the Premier League is close to being delusional.

Now, I want us to win the Premier League as much as any fan. But we must accept the reality that the road back to the top 4 will be very tough and we can't expect it to happen overnight.

Damn...ibra steal the gerrard nite. Now all talk about ibra ang gerrard 100 caps become no news already

3 assists? How many goals has Walcott produced? How many match has he been played and how Arsenal game changed with him on the field? You can't argue that at the moment Walcott is delivering more end products than Sterling is.

walcott stat in the league: 10 match 3 goals 4 assists. Im only talking about his end product. And 'at the moment' not in few years time. That's why i wouldn't swap Sterling for Walcott.

add: Suarez actually took 72 shots in the league already. Scoring 10. As comparison Van Persie took 37 and scores 8. While Demba Ba also has 8 with 50 shots.