You can actually test it with spike trap.
Get a monk to buff MoC/Overawe and you launch your spike trap.

24-48% additional damage is easily found and obvious on screen, isn't it?
With your DPS, you should spot 800K-1million damage on screen.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 29 2012, 09:56 PM

Oh well, don't see this getting anywhere and i don't want to further offend anyone here because i know this is a tight knitted community. You have worshipers and i'm pretty much the lone DH here.

No worries, this is only a discussion. And I have no worshippers.

im a MOC-Overawe user....so by what quazacolt mention...it was a debuff...keywords here..

also like i mention b4..ill test the theory out later with my fren...but i assume it will not get anywhere cuz its a debuff to the monster....ur fren cant see it..unless ur fren can change into the monster effected?...o well..

This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Oct 29 2012, 10:10 PM

u can always get another guy to hit it and see the damage difference that pops up on that person's screen.

You can actually test it.
Your party members/allies can see the damage on the screen.

24-48% is a very high damage.
It can be tested and spotted on the screen.

If you find it works, I'd say it is a good thing.
We just need one very tankable monk with MoC/Overawe + 3 barbs (that can dish out millions of damage from hammer of the ancients) to do MP10.
Kill everything in sight in seconds.

moc does NOT apply to the caster. it applies to the ENEMIES

If u want DPS, why go for barbs? Sorry, i kinda dislike barbs for the wrong reasons la.. =)

But i think WD and CM wiz is nicer. So much disable.

really? last i checked paranoid tanking without FoT thunderclap too. guess i'm not alone!

>mfw he still thinks im on DR despite numerous mentions

It just happened that Barbs can now dish out millions of damage per hit.
Not telling you to like it, just saying.

Of course, as I told you, you can use spike trap with your DH.
It can be easily spotted too.

this is what i interpreted from the skill description too.

So in terms of DPS, u're picking a barb over a DH?

i've tested, i'll just tell you the results ahead:
your friend will never see it lol.

but yeah do repeat the test again for your own (and everyone's) sake

Don't pick my words.
You can check with Shin and Lau Pan (good DHs). We always play together and they can tell you how barbs work (we play with a Barb that dishes out million of damage).

No offence but i've yet to see a barb here that has 150K DPS and above. And even if such person do exist, i'm guessing a WW barb.

Shin is a tanking DH right? I don't know how that works but not my style. Besides, a barb dishing out million of damage per hit? Well at what APS? 1.5? 1.0?

I couldn't believe it's true. Until we play with him.
And the friend of that barb is even stronger (that's what he told me).
Pre-patch 105a, killed A3 keywarden @ MP7 in 4-5 hits (in 4 player co-op game). You do the math.

Anyway, no point to do a comparison between barb and DH.
The spike trap is so OP now.

P/S I watched a youtube clip. A barb killed an MP10 Azmodan in 50 secs (or lower? can't remember the exact number. it is in seconds).

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 29 2012, 10:42 PM

there are barbs around LYN thats over 150k unbuffed dps. (IINM)
at the minimal theres plentiful of over 100k unbuffed dps barbs

in terms of scaling, barbs does in fact out dps DHs at top end level gears
however those barbs are pretty few, and it is easier for a DH to out dps a barb (more so in coop situation if they don't need to kite) on your average gears (thinking between 100-200k damage people.)

anything above 200k i believe a barb would out perform a DH, while at the same time having the capability to soak up dmg unlike DH being a binary glass cannon (dead, or alive, 0/1 lol)

oo man..ur so left by the bus bro....my team barbs are well over 100K dps...and thats was my team...that didnt count the famous barb here in lyn yet...

which is why is time to NERF barbs. You can't have cheap gears and yet get high end DPS and survivability. Please is getting laughable and a slap in the face to those who actually thinks and grind.

A standard barb nowadays uses

1. skorn
2. IK set
3. WW build

And u have a 100K DPS barb at 1/5 of the gold spent by other classes. This is simply unfair.

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Added on October 29, 2012, 10:57 pmWell, didn't see much barb posting but there is nothing WOW about getting a 100k DPS barb with cheap gears. Any crappy IK set and a skorn can get u there.

This post has been edited by 2890: Oct 29 2012, 10:57 PM

well bro doing mp7 above..u cant have crappy gear in terms of def to go coop....thats a no no...mind a glass cannon DH i guess...