Thank You. So i was right? Is like a dmg buff for everyone.

yeah ive been parting up with other monks and im not the monk that always get to use MoC so i know my dmg doesn't decrease when another monk is moc'ing.
its harder to coordinate 7ss's from multiple monks with overawe activation though

the last run i did with multi monks is with lifex and he 7ss defensively (very rare since his gear is well... damn good LOL!) or for the MF gear swap > killing blow. so overawe coordination is moot

wizard slow time with time warp rune makes enemies 20% more damage

monk argument becomes invalider!

rofl

24% / 48% on activation.

you're never going to win this argument in your life time until blizzard nerfs overawe rune

Ahh, so the swap was worth it. Lower DPS on paper but that mantra just rock.

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Added on October 29, 2012, 9:35 pmNERF? please the first one getting a nerd is WW barbs.

This post has been edited by 2890: Oct 29 2012, 09:35 PM

As far as I know..the MoC mantra will not appear on the allies screen unlike MoE.

However, when I play Dh, when my ally monk recites MoC, yes I see the red glow on the mob and perhaps its placebo or what but those mobs beems to be easier to take down.

Simple way to test is by taking on Azmo (since azmo is a wuss) in a co-game, once with and once without and let the monk be passive(i.e running around healing himself and not doing any damage). You should find that with MoC azmo goes down faster.

lol...no wonder why i got the massacre kills often..

@ Aleune

all enemies within 20 yards OF YOU doesn't mean that the damage is done by you alone. Is just a perimeter

well, i got 60k dps. my 2 sisters have 65k dps on the dh and over 70k on the wiz

i kill WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY faster than them because lol overawe

but if partied... well...

and yea, nerf barbs more

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although to be honest/seriously speaking, blizzard DID MENTIONED on nerfing overawe. because it renders retribution mantra, and other runes in conviction "useless"

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 29 2012, 09:38 PM

I have 210K dps on my DH so with overawe, i basically just got a 48 percent dmg buff. How is that not cool man.

you are correct, because its a DEBUFF to the enemy monster
unless you can take a peek at the enemy monster's screen, then you'll never see their debuff list

what you CAN see is the faint glow beneath their feets.
the bigger the monster (with skinnier legs, think of those bigger imps with huge clubs) the more obvious said glow is
or even very small monsters like sand imps/demon imps, they too small so you'll just see a small ish glowing ball running around lol

the recitement i dont think has additional (or red) glow. just that its 48% buff upon reciting/activation, and the 48% buff does a very obvious dps buff as compared to 24%
having all that stacked upon your crit dmg, you're going to expect some really fat numbers popping up on your screen lol (i used to coordinate overawe with barb earthquake thing after their wotb or just plain wotb, or DH's hatred unload etc)

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Added on October 29, 2012, 9:43 pmbecause we'll then be on even ground, or even them killing faster because they no longer need to kite while i tank in front

yes selfish thoughts here, just that LOL

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 29 2012, 09:43 PM

even with cold blooded passive rune + bone chill frost nova + glass cannon passive rune?

no way!

*in denial*

lol ok

You can do some testing to see other allies are under the effect of mantra.
It is good if you are under the effect of mantra.
If it is yes, good for you. As you said, you just had a 48% damage buff.

im not really sure but my understanding was same with Aleune.

when a monk shares their mantra, other classes will have the mantra icon if you get the effect of the mantra. if u are with a monk with MoE, you get the green icon on your screen, so as MoH, you get the purple icon.
MoC does not, so the effect of MoC only applies to the caster only.

Like what quazacolt said, the mantra is not a buff to you so it won't appear as a buff icon on that line just above your skill bar. This mantra is a de-buff to the mobs so why would it appear there? Kinda make sense what quazacolt just said, MoD and MoC is kinda the same, just appears on the screen.

quazacolt, he is the one and only monk that doesn't teleport (well, if you knew the history).

Because other mantras are buff for players? and MoC is not a buff for players? MoC is a de-buffto mobs. Why would an icon appear if is not for u?

Likewise the death marks of the DH?

P/S I think it is not the point. Test it. If it's a buff for you, that's good. It was not a buff (for the allies) for my case.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 29 2012, 09:52 PM

it appears on the screen right? u can see the mark on the mobs head right? well MoC appears on the feet. Same thing right?

With MoD, u get dmg buff right cuz the mobs are taking in more dmg, do u see a rectangular icon? i don't think so.