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 A question for the moderators and administrators., Were there any honest meetings?

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SUSDeadlocks
post Oct 24 2012, 07:23 AM, updated 14y ago

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Have any of you (mods and admins), confronted a member of the Lowyat forums face to face to discuss issues at hand?

With only pure, table discussions, and nothing more.
SUSDeadlocks
post Oct 24 2012, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(firefoxian @ Oct 24 2012, 07:43 AM)
Most probably not. Since they are  all volunteers who have their own jobs.but I remembered ah wang and another admin/mod did make a trip to kuching though:)
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Meaning they will avoid honest, face-to-face discussions whenever possible? That can't be right.

I'm sure they simply do not care, thinking "it's just an idiot in the forums who wastes his time trying to make it serious".

Yes, I know what all of you are thinking. In fairness, I should also ignore you as well in order to proceed accordingly with our lives, except that you assume that everyone is wilfully ignorant about those things that make us human.
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post Oct 27 2012, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Oct 24 2012, 10:28 PM)
I wonder how a face-to-face meeting can help in conducting a honest discussion. We are not exactly hiding our faces behind our pc/ tablets/ smartphones. However I believe that any issues in the forum can be resolved via the forum itself, and it always does. And thus brings me to the question above.
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I will use your post to quote and to answer to all those who seemed to be curious about this thread.

Online discussions are prone to instantaneous, self-removal from the discussion. Meaning if one can simply bail from the discussion because he/she has nothing to say.

Organic, verbal discussions on the other hand, means that instant response will be required, leaving no room for escape from the discussion. The point of the discussion is to reach a conclusion, and unlike online discussions, you cannot simply log off from an organic discussion. You take your time to think during the discussion before you speak, but know this...there will be no bailing out. Conclusions must be drawn, and both parties of the discussion must accept it.


Added on October 28, 2012, 9:36 amYou see how nobody replies after a while? This is why I prefer to face-face conversations. Instantaneous response, and no-nonsense.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Oct 28 2012, 09:36 AM
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post Oct 28 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 28 2012, 10:11 AM)
LOL, did it ever occur to you that in real life, anyone also can end the discussion with "no comment, I shall take my leave here." ?

Your logic is flawed when you assume face to face discussion meant you will get immediate answers.
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You may be true, but it reflects badly on the person to simply leave the discussion without a proper understanding of both sides.

Plus, it will be impolite to just leave a discussion hanging without a mutual agreement of a conclusion drawn in the discussion.

Imagine a job-interview situation. Each party will be required to make a good, acceptable, courteous impression.

That means, with an organic conversation, people may not give you immediate answers, but immediate responses can be defined clearly. That is why in online discussions, people can say things like brb, or afk whenever they wish to ignore you, and if they ever come back they can pretend as if they were really away being busy about something.

However, in real life conversation, you can't do that. You are glued to your seat, and if you simply leave without a mutual agreement during the discussion, you will be seen as discourteous. Again I will say, imagine a situation like a job-interview, or even a courtroom meeting where you will be required to attend, and only allowed to leave where conclusions and agreements are reached in both sides.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Oct 28 2012, 10:24 AM
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post Oct 28 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Oct 28 2012, 11:04 AM)
seriously, that 2 examples are the best you can come up with which have conclusions and agreements at the end of the sessions?! I thought you could have done better.

Anyway, times spent in LYN moderating or engaging in discussion doesn't equal time free enough to meet up with others. Would rather catch up with my friends if indeed i have the time. Commitmments does catch up with age.

Btw, wouldn't it be better and clearer to have a judgement over some clear air rather then like you mentioned; pressured by time, I.e. in your words "reach a conclusion at the end of the session". What is your profession in real life which led to a presumption like yours above?
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It is easier to remove yourself in the midst of an online conversation. Not so in real life. That's why.

And don't worry. I am not bringing a lawyer into the conversation.

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