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post Apr 2 2008, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 2 2008, 07:44 PM)
that's not true... you dont know how much those ppl in investment firms get paid... they might be one of the highest paying in msia though
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read again his word.

highest paying service company.

assume to be "oil n gas service company", I thought Baker Hughes pays betteR?
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post Apr 3 2008, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 2 2008, 09:29 PM)
yea... investment is counted as service too... unless he says engineering services... but u should see how much those servising NASA earns...
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This is "oil n gas career" thread. Not investment or what. Stick to the topic.



I remember christine85 get a lot offer d, not sure which one to choose. Check few pages back.

blasturanus, good luck on other companies interview during the TEC.
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post Apr 4 2008, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 4 2008, 04:34 AM)
Bahan sch? nope, Geophysics is a part of physics course..... but we seems like aliens to other physics student coz we're the minority group...
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It doesn't really matter "minority" or what.

You gonna be earning a lot more than my friends in USM Main Campus (your batch).
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post Apr 9 2008, 04:23 PM

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she's enkardirmainbola. go PM her. smile.gif

btw its RM4k or USD4k?
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Apr 9 2008, 04:29 PM)
yeah, allen's right.

btw, the bonus only after you "break out" i.e. after trainee phase ~8 mths for other divisions, not sure about western geco.

also, make sure it's usd4k not rm4k, otherwise too much risk for too little money.
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ya, agree.
RM4k is not a lot nowadays, even USD4k isn't a lot.....considering depreciation value of USD.....
usually they targetting Asian coz uSD4k to us a lot....but to develoved country people, that's seem normal.

I know someone working in Fugro, getting RM8k basic, yet to include allowance. He's pretty young, around 25-year-old.

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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 9 2008, 09:38 PM)
RM8k in Fugro? is he a malaysian? i reckon slb pay the most for freshie nowadays.
well, malay, malaysian smile.gif
after allowance everything, its more than RM20k/month.

pay isn't everything, if you not enjoying your work, you won't be long there.
Offshore work sometime its not about mental fitness, its about physical fitness.

Sitting in the shell looking at the ROV? for constantly 15hours? or 24hours if need intensive monitoring.

That's why they pay pretty well, for Asian it seem very good pay.

You should be able to hit 6 figure/month when u around 40, if u still with them whistling.gif
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try to check if other company using the same technology as SLB.
or else u may need start all over again smile.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 11 2008, 03:56 PM)
[size=7]yea... another thing is that they seems to be more interested in the students recruited through the career fair etc... fast respond and reply from them. Last time i sent an online appication form to SLB but there's no respond at all.. it is after around 2 months later they came to our uni, and i just tried out their screening process at their booth before i got the chance for the next interviews. We also got the result on whether make it or not in quite a short time, around 1 weeks.. So,for the fresh grads, i reckon, its better to show up at their booth during career fair ... smile.gif 
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Not all students would prefer to have interview during career fair as there are many other potential companies as well.
I have seniors who decided not to go SLB interview coz it took long time and missed out other good companies where their interview shorter in duration.

Somehow, it should be a good experience as said to be among the tedious interview tongue.gif

And kevin1mil, how you get the chance to interview b4 the career fair? just by sending form online? share with us.
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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 12 2008, 12:40 AM)
True, it consumes quite a lot of times for the total 4 sessions of interview, and yea, it also depends on the companies that show up during the career fair. During our career fair, only 3 O&G companies showed up, which are, Petronas, Dugeo and SLB. For petronas, they're only keen to interview those who didnt pass the interview during our second year, as a second chance for them. And the good thing is that their interviewing time is adjustable, so, still ok for those who wan to try out both Petronas and SLB.. For Dugeo, we're only required to summit our resume and any interview will only be carried out after we all grad. Other companies such as Exxon, PGS, Shell came during our career talk, organised by geophysics student of AAPG in USM.  smile.gif
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kevinling, I'm not asking you tongue.gif

Ya that's for USM...only 3.....but when u have more than 10 oil n gas companies there.....different case rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 12 2008, 10:50 AM)
biggrin.gif haha... i think setting the target will be a very important thing to do instead of randomly pick several companies for interview during the career fair. But i think apply for every company through internet first, few months prior to the career fair. Only if the companies you've targeted do not give any respond or reject your application before even giving you any chances for interview, go and look for them during career fair.. let them see that you're capable with their own eyes  laugh.gif
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Ya, that's what I'm gonna do next year. Would prefer oil n gas installation companies, would want some site experience smile.gif

Christine, even though we enter uni at the same batch but u grad a year earlier than I do........ah.....
can't wait to join the working world, time for a change smile.gif
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QUOTE(christine85 @ Apr 13 2008, 01:51 PM)



Added on April 13, 2008, 1:56 pm
haha...  laugh.gif enjoy the uni life first... u'll get plenty of time to work until u retire if u want..  tongue.gif which uni and course you're from?


Added on April 13, 2008, 2:04 pm
Universiti Teknologi Petronas - Mechanical Engineering.
Internship now, should join the "world" next year June/July rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(forrest @ Apr 22 2008, 03:39 PM)
not only your balls, and your stick too... the most scary part in the medical checkup..
and girls can't avoid from such checkup too..  icon_idea.gif
the doctor will wear surgery glove..
take it easy, relax  blush.gif
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what they gonna do with the balls and stick anyway? tongue.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(reign226 @ Apr 23 2008, 02:06 AM)
I'm going to be interning at the end of this year...want to break into the black gold field. Any tips on where to start? I'm looking through various O&G companies and checking out their internship/training programmes and have so far applied at Schlumberger based on a friend's testimonial working there. However, my university wasn't listed on their website so I had to put Other. Any other place where I can get started?
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Technip, RWP, MMC, RNZ, Intec, Pegasus, JP Kenny, Aker Kvaerner
Exxonmobil, Shell, Petronas, Talisman, Murphy Oil, Nippon Oil
MMHE, SDE, Ramunia, Kencana, Brooke
Global Offshore, TL Offshore, Mcdermott
Schlumberger, Baker Hughes, Haliburton

General Electric Oil n Gas, Aramis, Dialog.......

tons of them !!!!

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QUOTE(reign226 @ Apr 23 2008, 11:53 PM)
That's a lot of choices...but are they all overseas companies? I dare not set my sights too high, was hoping to get placement somewhere in Malaysia but I don't really know the proper way.

So far I have explored some companies website such as Exxonmobil and Cameron and found that all of them have online systems where you submit in a resume. I'm still a student, haven't had working experience yet so I don't know what to include in my resume. Anybody been down this road before and can share or point me in the right direction?
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do a google yourself about the company location, spoonfeed is not the culture here.

pc123, UTP Petroleum Engineering should be a good course. Its pretty similiar to mechanical engineering if you ask me. At least the basic of mechanical engineering covered in PE programme outline.
Working in Petronas? why Petronas when there are so many companies out there?

Being a petronas scholar in UTP, especially Petroleum Engineering may not be a good thing when u review back after u grad.

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QUOTE(pc123 @ Apr 24 2008, 12:09 PM)
Alright thanks for your answers.

1). Okay i understand physically n` mentally fit. What about the off days? I want to noe how long I would be missing my loved ones.

2). Is there any1 working in office now? tell me more about it. Tell me the $$$ eventho it isn`t that much.

3). Oil deplete by around 2050. Alright got it.

4). Yeah i understand i wrote a stupid ques asking bout racist stuffs. I understand now, thanks. How about colour blind ppl? This ques frm my fren.

I`m just a SPM leaver. I once tot of getting SHELL schola,but they required A-levels. So, one of the fastest way is to get PETRONAS schola right? So, you are saying working with petronas isn`t that good? I understand the 10 years bondage period but 10 years I guess nvm 1 la right?

Well I need to noe more about the office job. Any1 working in office?

`You will free from financial problem if you receive the scholarship, but you will be bonded for 8-10years. I saw few of the first class/oversea engineering graduates end up working in management department. HR placed them.
If you are hardworking, work smart, you don't have any problem to work at anywhere.`
----what is HR?
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HR = Human Resources.

I'm from UTP, undergo my internship now.
I have met a lot seniors who holding the scholarship.
At first when I joined in UTP and I din get the scholarship, well I was a bit "unhappy" or disappointing but I don't find it that way anymore now.
A lot oil n gas companies nowadays do not take Petronas scholars as their interns, nor permanent staff.
Simply because most of them will be called by Petronas and work where ever Petronas "throw" them at, other companies will not want to train a student on behalf of petronas, right?

I have seniors, high scorers in E&E, now working as trader/procurement personnel in Petronas subsidiary, some in marketing, some in HR.
Those lucky one get into oil n gas sector but how many are lucky? Small amount only.

Let say you stayed in HR for 10 years to serve the bond, do you think you can switch back to engineering line by then?

If not mistaken, UTP has risen the tuition fee which mean now 1 year scholarship = 3 years bond.
Fellow UTPians, correct me if I'm wrong.

There's always option to break the bond, pay one lump sum.
I have seniors did that, who get offer from SLB/Baker Hughes.
I rather consider paying back PTPTN by installment than one lump sum to Petronas tongue.gif
If you holding JPA/MARA scholarship in UTP, then u are safe. icon_rolleyes.gif

IMO, its always good to take up the scholarship if you have no intention to join oil n gas, if you have intention for it. Think again.
In the company I'm at now, a lot senior engineers told me not to join Petronas in the future, go to other companies. They were from Petronas previously.

If u a non-petronas scholar in UTP, you stand a very high chance to join oil n gas sector.
Check this URL, how many oil n gas companies came to UTP few weeks ago for career fair.
http://www.utp.edu.my/news/TEC2008.php


I'm 'working' in office now, crapster used to do so. You can consult him about the "office" atmosphere as most of them here are offshore people.
Consultant, fabrication, installation, servicing, client, maintenance (integrity management) = Oil n Gas

p/s : Sorry for my messy post.

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QUOTE(forrest @ Apr 24 2008, 02:47 PM)
@pc123

you are not fully understood, the oil will only deplete/finish IF there are no new discovery at all (from now). The estimation is based on current reserves and consumption rate. Let say if company A found few giant oil fields with >1 trillion STOOIP, it will prolong the 2050 to .... 2xxx

Genting Oil and Gas, the only company in Malaysia (but didn't involve E&P business in Msia) with more mandarin speaking environment.

@allen

Exactly the situation in p company... welcome to oil&gas...
actually got ways to job hop from p company to others, if you know the "lubang"...  hmm.gif
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Well if you are bonded and want to hop always from petronas,
its either break the bond or your future company willing to buyout your "bond".
Unless you know someone in ESU, who can "release" you from the bond drool.gif

Beside that, what else could it be?
Many of UTP students would glad to know that tongue.gif

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QUOTE(reign226 @ Apr 26 2008, 01:42 PM)
Thanks for the insight christine. Just one more question, how to apply? I am confused as to the division between East and West Malaysia for Shell application...my friend interned at PD which is WM and when I asked him, he said to apply online through the website but when I visit the website, I get lost in it.

Basically, do I need to choose whether to apply for East or West Malaysia and can apply for both or I just submit one application and they will determine the placement? How did you apply?
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Apply through the website.
There should be a column for "student internship application" under "Job & Careers".

For internship, its really depend on luck.
You may pass the interview which is easy if you ask me but u may not get any placement at all............ rclxub.gif rclxub.gif [ I'm one of them....no placement, don't pass so many people.....give people false hope]

They will ask you where you interested to base at during the phone interview.

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 27 2008, 12:40 AM)
I got an offer from Shell within a day of the interview. I did tell them up front that I had another offer waiting (which was true). If it's been a month then I would not put my hopes up too high, but I'd certainly bug HR to give a yes/no answer ASAP.
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I have a friend passed the SRD.
Shell want him but he said he hope to stay in the current company to learn for a bit more time.
Shell willing to wait for him, at least for the time being.
Basically an offer letter without date, not sure how long will offer last still though. laugh.gif


christine85, I know a project manager just quited from my company Miri branch. He complained life in Miri just too slow, can't use to it. brows.gif
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pc123, I'm not quite sure how the petronas scholarship (convertable loan) running in UTP. I don't think christine can answer you on that, she's in USM.

As far as I know, when u receive the offer to study in UTP, it comes with the scholarship. So take it or lose both.

Your best bet will be, take the scholarship if you get into UTP, do well in your study.
Pray hard that you don't get recommended by Petronas and they willing to release you for a small amount of fee.

Else, take loan/starting saving now to pay back the loan when you ready to break the bond.

If you joining UTP without petronas scholarship, you still stand a chance to grab JPA/Mara[if u are bumiputra] scholarship which usually unlikely to be bonded.

Think about it after you receive the offer.
If you joining UTP this july, find me while I'm still there tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NicholasG5 @ May 2 2008, 08:49 PM)
Will, Security Technology (IT) fresh grads get a chance to enter Oil & Gas industry? If yes, will we be able to get high pay?

I'll be going for internship next month and was offered a place at ExxonMobil but had to turn it down because I had already gotten a place at F-Secure. Did I  make a bad decision here? Will it be easier to get into ExxonMobil by going through the internship?

What kinda jobs (if any) do IT grads do in the offshore rigs?

I hope someone will be kind enough to give me some answers.

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If you ask me, I would join Exxonmobile tongue.gif
unless F-secure really give u what u want to study.

Since u already made the decision, do not doubt yourself.

In oil n gas sector, not only offshore work pay well.
Even office based pay well too smile.gif

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