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 Official Club 6th Gen Mitsubishi Mirage 2012/2013, 1.2 3A92 MIVEC. Power to weight ratio !

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johnance17
post Feb 18 2013, 03:57 PM

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Hi,

Hello guys, I am new here,i just bought this car (Mirage) and its just a month old, i read all the post from page 1 to page 50 and i tried all the possible solution i saw here 0-70kph @1.5k rpm, 70-100kph @2k rpm (correct me if im wrong,2k rpm is hard to maintain when you are at this speed coz in my experience its playing around 2.1 to 2.4 k @ gear 5), but i only manage max 12km/L and if it is traffic this figure goes below 8.5km/L city driving, my question is how do you guys reached those fc, if it is heavy traffic do you still managed to reach those fc, and what fuel are you using coz me im using the octane 93, is higher octane really makes difference in terms of fc?

Thanks guys....

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johnance17
post Feb 18 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 18 2013, 04:08 PM)
are you driving manual transmission version and are you from overseas?

coz in malaysia the lowest octane in pumps is 95.
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Hi V12,

Thanks for replying, yup im using manual transmission and here in my place the lowest is Octane93 mix with 10%bio-ethanol, hmm so all of you guys are using octane 95? are those pure or with mix too?, i like to try the octane 95 but still it has 10% bio-ethanol mix, i would like to see inputs too if 93 to 95 really makes a big impact on fc.
Thanks bro.

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post Feb 18 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 18 2013, 04:20 PM)
Can't really tell you any difference since the lowest RON grade here is RON95.
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Hi Dares,

Thanks for replying, is your ron95 fuel there is pure or with 10% bio-ethanol too, in my place we have octane 93, octane 95, octane 97, but all of them with 10% bio-ethanol, i dont know if bio-ethanol affects fc.

Thanks Bro.
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post Feb 18 2013, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 18 2013, 04:27 PM)
that's due to manual gearbox has fixed gear ratio and hence you can never travel on the same rpm you want constantly. The best you can do is to shift accordingly and keep the engine rpm in between 2,000 to 2,500 rpm range.

most of the members here is driving the CVT version. CVT doesn't raise the rpm in tandem with the speed. The prime advantage of the CVT is the driver can choose to travel at which rpm he/she wish to, hence they all could maintain 2,000 rpm when travelling at normal, sensible speed.

octane rating doesnt help that much in FC IMO. FC is based on how efficient you drive, how efficient you use your throttle and brakes.

are you Brazilian? tongue.gif
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Hi V12,

Yah im doing that, from 0 to 70 im maintining a 1.5k rpm, but when im 70 to 100kph im playing around 2k to 2.5k rpm, i guess will try the octane 95 to see if i will reach that 15 to 18km/L fc.

Will report back once done, will just burned all the octane 93 in my tank.

Nope... im not a brazilian...hehe.. why do u ask?

Thanks bro...
johnance17
post Feb 18 2013, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(ikhwanstt @ Feb 18 2013, 05:59 PM)
yes, bio-ethanol can effect fuel consumption
for 100% bio-ethanol fuel, fuel consumption could decrease 34%
it is because bio-ethanol have 34% less energy compared to gasoline

but in your case, only 10% bio-ethanol blend
the fuel consumption figure should only less by around 3.4% (not pure ethanol, just blend)

average fuel consumption given by forumers here around 15-19 km/l
and you should get around that (with 3.4% different due to ethanol)
the fuel consumption figure given by you is so low
there must be something wrong
maybe your car of something else
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Hey ikwanstt,

Thanks for replying, hmm i guess will try the octane 95 to octane 100 then will keep track of my fc, hope i can reach 15 19km/L.
my mirage is only a month old and my odometer is just 770km.

Thanks bro.
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post Feb 18 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Feb 18 2013, 04:22 PM)
Never reach that low FC as 8.5km/l b4. Even with jam from jalan duta all the way to jalan istana in 2 hour jam.
The trick is press rpm as low as possible, driving in slow lane can easily maintain at 1.5k - 2k rpm. If going down hill, no need accelerate  at all, just let it roll down, the FC will increase very fast. When u almost reach tol, u can let it roll from quite far away, no need accelerate at all. New car equip with CVT is very different from the old car without it. You just need time to adjust to it.

ANyway, where are you from? Our country "Malaysia" uses RON95 or RON97. Doesn't use octane 93.
use RON 95 and 97 does gives difference, but the FC doesn't worth the extra money u spend on RON97.
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Hey Edison,

Thanks for the reply, really 2 hours traffic will consume a lot of fumes, when you are stock in traffic lets say from start of traffic you have a fc reading of 18km/L then your stock for 2hours, after getting out of the traffic, what is you km/L reading? does your reading decreases or it just stay in what value?

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post Feb 19 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Feb 18 2013, 07:54 PM)
Well, it depend on your journey, on evening im on a journey of around 60km with no traffic jam, so I believe the avg FC should be 18-19km/l , then on the night (on my way back) I was stuck in a traffic jam (very slow moving) I believe drop until 12-13km/l. So far my Avg. Fc doesn't drop below 10km/l. Unless you counted the part where you reach destination in less than 8min.

Aircond mostly are the culprit of low FC. Same day on the same traffic jam. with aircond my FC drop by 2km/l, without aircond it just drop 0.4-0.6km/l. I try go to work without aircond can easily hit 21km/l with around 30km journey. While with aircond I get 16-18km/l. While mine is auto. You should try drive at 70-90kmph. That my usual speed driving.

Try use my result as reference

Distance travel: 384km
Petrol refilled : 26.824 Litre
  Avg. FC: 14.31km/l
Petrol used: Unknown (free from SA)
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, random driving style and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road


Distance Travel: 433km
Petrol Refilled : 27.31 Litre
Avg. FC: 15.85km/l
Petrol used: BHP 95
Note : Petrol mixed with unknown petrol from b4 about 9 litre. 1 time stuck at Jalan Duta - Jalan istana for 2 hours. Aircond on all the time, Everything stok. Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.
Distance travel: 464km
Petrol refilled : 26.80 Litre
Avg. FC: 17.31km/l
Petrol used: BHP 97
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road

a recent blur record show I can get 500km with RM50 petrol. Only if travel with Highway, not city road.

btw have you modify any part of your car? eg: RIMs? coz I got a friend here that modified his RIM it impact on the FC quite a lot
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Hey Edison,

Thanks for this detailed explanation, surely will make this my reference , hmm looking at the figures, higher octane can make a big difference from BHP95 433km to BHP97 464km, me too i travel to work from house a distance of versa at a total of 30km which composed of city driving only (weekdays moderate to heavy traffic, up hill and down hill, a lot of stop and go, no highway) the highest fc i reached is arouund 12- 14kml/L with aircon level 2, but when traffic starts it goes down way to fast in 45mins time (bumper to bumper up hill heavy traffic) will reached the 8km/L reading in my fc. hmm do you always fill up full coz me only 20liters per fill up, later will try and fill up Octane95 or better will try the octane100 and report back here.

Thanks guys for answering my query's.

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post Feb 19 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(kentlord @ Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM)
At first i also feels like Mitsu must be conning me, then after i learned constant momentum plus 1.5/2k rpm without much breaking bring my FC to 20.7km/L. Previously i also drove like mad man then noticing the saving was around 14 to 15km/L. Then adapted to the advise given by a promotion video from a dakar rally racer, i did get up to 20.7km.

Today i was at my usual road to work again, normally if i keep breaking then it will be around 11 to 13km/L avg.

even in jam condition today, i achieved 18.5km/L. i keep maximum distant from my front car so that i can keep rolling even in jam conditions.  thumbup.gif
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Hi Kentlord,

how about in heavy traffic conditions, like in my experience, i reaching 12-14km/L (city driving w/aircon 22degress level 2) but when i reached the jam part of the road within 45minutes of getting stock and slow movement my fc will be around 8km/L.
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post Feb 19 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(kentlord @ Feb 19 2013, 03:51 PM)
just keep rolling my fren.... as long u maintain momentum, it will continued to save fuel. as for aircon i am at (24c level 1), when reached jam part, slow down to the point of not pressing on the accelerator just lightly touched on brake just to ensure no collision. Also leave maximum distant which is about 1.5 to 2 car lenght apart depending on jam condition just plan far enuff for u continue rolling endlessly.
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Thanks for the tip kentlord, will apply it and report back, later will fill up with octane 95, will just experiment with it first then will try octane 97 up to octane 100, to see which one will give the best fc.
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post Feb 20 2013, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Feb 18 2013, 07:54 PM)
Well, it depend on your journey, on evening im on a journey of around 60km with no traffic jam, so I believe the avg FC should be 18-19km/l , then on the night (on my way back) I was stuck in a traffic jam (very slow moving) I believe drop until 12-13km/l. So far my Avg. Fc doesn't drop below 10km/l. Unless you counted the part where you reach destination in less than 8min.

Aircond mostly are the culprit of low FC. Same day on the same traffic jam. with aircond my FC drop by 2km/l, without aircond it just drop 0.4-0.6km/l. I try go to work without aircond can easily hit 21km/l with around 30km journey. While with aircond I get 16-18km/l. While mine is auto. You should try drive at 70-90kmph. That my usual speed driving.

Try use my result as reference

Distance travel: 384km
Petrol refilled : 26.824 Litre
  Avg. FC: 14.31km/l
Petrol used: Unknown (free from SA)
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, random driving style and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road


Distance Travel: 433km
Petrol Refilled : 27.31 Litre
Avg. FC: 15.85km/l
Petrol used: BHP 95
Note : Petrol mixed with unknown petrol from b4 about 9 litre. 1 time stuck at Jalan Duta - Jalan istana for 2 hours. Aircond on all the time, Everything stok. Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.
Distance travel: 464km
Petrol refilled : 26.80 Litre
Avg. FC: 17.31km/l
Petrol used: BHP 97
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road

a recent blur record show I can get 500km with RM50 petrol. Only if travel with Highway, not city road.

btw have you modify any part of your car? eg: RIMs? coz I got a friend here that modified his RIM it impact on the FC quite a lot
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Hi edison,

Yesterday i fill up with octane 95 but didnt notice any difference in fc, i guess this is bcoz my fuel is still mix of octane 93 and 95, but today i felt the difference coz i have reached 17.1km/L in my usual 30km routine ac @22c level 1, hmm will test it more but this time will be doing the slow driving style with ac @ 26c level 1, thanks again bro.

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