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Official Club 6th Gen Mitsubishi Mirage 2012/2013, 1.2 3A92 MIVEC. Power to weight ratio !
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QUOTE It still 56980.... u can pm me for more info Thanks.. I'll read earlier on tis thread that 2013 Mirage will increase it price around RM2k, this rumors true or not? This post has been edited by Lanc3: Feb 16 2013, 06:20 PM |
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Feb 17 2013, 12:10 AM
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Check this out.
I am just wondering... Does this apply to Australia Mirage and those soon to be produce in US and europe countries ? What about the Mitsu Mirage sold in Thailand, Philippines and Malaysia ? I heard that this test is applicable for 2013 batch only. What about those Mirage produce before 2013 ?? Currently all the Mitsubishi mirage in Malaysia is 2012 batch only. My hometown Sales Manager confirm that. And this might be the reason due to the RM2000 price increment. This post has been edited by AM.Lim: Feb 17 2013, 12:13 AM |
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Feb 17 2013, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(AM.Lim @ Feb 17 2013, 12:10 AM) Check this out. increment of price is due to mirage was launched at year end.. bear in mind when u want to sell your car, there will be drop of few k compared to next year's car.. dec 2012 car still sell as batch 2012.. therefore resale value sure drop gila gila.. so to compensate that, company will increase price of newer batch.. i heard is around 900+ incrementI am just wondering... Does this apply to Australia Mirage and those soon to be produce in US and europe countries ? What about the Mitsu Mirage sold in Thailand, Philippines and Malaysia ? I heard that this test is applicable for 2013 batch only. What about those Mirage produce before 2013 ?? Currently all the Mitsubishi mirage in Malaysia is 2012 batch only. My hometown Sales Manager confirm that. And this might be the reason due to the RM2000 price increment. add extra 900++, save u extra few k when selling.. of cause.. there is some upgraded gadgets in newer batch. 2013 batch car still using same chasis as 2012.. just that aus model has 6 airbegs, malaysia's 2 only.. |
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QUOTE(yeohhk01 @ Feb 17 2013, 01:58 AM) increment of price is due to mirage was launched at year end.. bear in mind when u want to sell your car, there will be drop of few k compared to next year's car.. dec 2012 car still sell as batch 2012.. therefore resale value sure drop gila gila.. so to compensate that, company will increase price of newer batch.. i heard is around 900+ increment got up and down la. For me, no plan reselling it in short period so.. it doesn't really matter to me. Plus, car value drop, your annual insurans also drop.add extra 900++, save u extra few k when selling.. of cause.. there is some upgraded gadgets in newer batch. 2013 batch car still using same chasis as 2012.. just that aus model has 6 airbegs, malaysia's 2 only.. and where do you hear "upgraded gadget" for new batch?? I receive no such news.... and what do they add actually? |
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Feb 18 2013, 03:57 PM
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Hello guys, I am new here,i just bought this car (Mirage) and its just a month old, i read all the post from page 1 to page 50 and i tried all the possible solution i saw here 0-70kph @1.5k rpm, 70-100kph @2k rpm (correct me if im wrong,2k rpm is hard to maintain when you are at this speed coz in my experience its playing around 2.1 to 2.4 k @ gear 5), but i only manage max 12km/L and if it is traffic this figure goes below 8.5km/L city driving, my question is how do you guys reached those fc, if it is heavy traffic do you still managed to reach those fc, and what fuel are you using coz me im using the octane 93, is higher octane really makes difference in terms of fc? Thanks guys.... This post has been edited by johnance17: Feb 18 2013, 03:59 PM |
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:57 PM) Hi, are you driving manual transmission version and are you from overseas?Hello guys, I am new here,i just bought this car (Mirage) and its just a month old, i read all the post from page 1 to page 50 and i tried all the possible solution i saw here 0-70kph @1.5k rpm, 70-100kph @2k rpm (correct me if im wrong,2k rpm is hard to maintain when you are at this speed coz in my experience its playing around 2.1 to 2.4 k @ gear 5), but i only manage max 12km/L and if it is traffic this figure goes below 8.5km/L city driving, my question is how do you guys reached those fc, if it is heavy traffic do you still managed to reach those fc, and what fuel are you using coz me im using the octane 93, is higher octane really makes difference in terms of fc? Thanks guys.... coz in malaysia the lowest octane in pumps is 95. |
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 18 2013, 04:08 PM) are you driving manual transmission version and are you from overseas? Hi V12,coz in malaysia the lowest octane in pumps is 95. Thanks for replying, yup im using manual transmission and here in my place the lowest is Octane93 mix with 10%bio-ethanol, hmm so all of you guys are using octane 95? are those pure or with mix too?, i like to try the octane 95 but still it has 10% bio-ethanol mix, i would like to see inputs too if 93 to 95 really makes a big impact on fc. Thanks bro. This post has been edited by johnance17: Feb 18 2013, 04:20 PM |
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 04:19 PM) Hi V12, Can't really tell you any difference since the lowest RON grade here is RON95.Thanks for replying, yup im using manual transmission and here in my place the lowest is Octane93 mix with 10%bio-ethanol, hmm so all of you guys are using octane 95? are those pure or with mix too?, i like to try the octane 95 but would like to see inputs here if 93 to 95 really makes a big impact on fc. Thanks bro. |
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:57 PM) Hi, Never reach that low FC as 8.5km/l b4. Even with jam from jalan duta all the way to jalan istana in 2 hour jam.Hello guys, I am new here,i just bought this car (Mirage) and its just a month old, i read all the post from page 1 to page 50 and i tried all the possible solution i saw here 0-70kph @1.5k rpm, 70-100kph @2k rpm (correct me if im wrong,2k rpm is hard to maintain when you are at this speed coz in my experience its playing around 2.1 to 2.4 k @ gear 5), but i only manage max 12km/L and if it is traffic this figure goes below 8.5km/L city driving, my question is how do you guys reached those fc, if it is heavy traffic do you still managed to reach those fc, and what fuel are you using coz me im using the octane 93, is higher octane really makes difference in terms of fc? Thanks guys.... The trick is press rpm as low as possible, driving in slow lane can easily maintain at 1.5k - 2k rpm. If going down hill, no need accelerate at all, just let it roll down, the FC will increase very fast. When u almost reach tol, u can let it roll from quite far away, no need accelerate at all. New car equip with CVT is very different from the old car without it. You just need time to adjust to it. ANyway, where are you from? Our country "Malaysia" uses RON95 or RON97. Doesn't use octane 93. use RON 95 and 97 does gives difference, but the FC doesn't worth the extra money u spend on RON97. This post has been edited by Edison83: Feb 18 2013, 04:29 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Feb 18 2013, 04:20 PM) Hi Dares,Thanks for replying, is your ron95 fuel there is pure or with 10% bio-ethanol too, in my place we have octane 93, octane 95, octane 97, but all of them with 10% bio-ethanol, i dont know if bio-ethanol affects fc. Thanks Bro. |
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 04:19 PM) Hi V12, that's due to manual gearbox has fixed gear ratio and hence you can never travel on the same rpm you want constantly. The best you can do is to shift accordingly and keep the engine rpm in between 2,000 to 2,500 rpm range. Thanks for replying, yup im using manual transmission and here in my place the lowest is Octane93 mix with 10%bio-ethanol, hmm so all of you guys are using octane 95? are those pure or with mix too?, i like to try the octane 95 but would like to see inputs here if 93 to 95 really makes a big impact on fc. Thanks bro. most of the members here is driving the CVT version. CVT doesn't raise the rpm in tandem with the speed. The prime advantage of the CVT is the driver can choose to travel at which rpm he/she wish to, hence they all could maintain 2,000 rpm when travelling at normal, sensible speed. octane rating doesnt help that much in FC IMO. FC is based on how efficient you drive, how efficient you use your throttle and brakes. are you Brazilian? This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Feb 18 2013, 04:29 PM |
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Feb 18 2013, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 04:27 PM) Hi Dares, yes, bio-ethanol can effect fuel consumptionThanks for replying, is your ron95 fuel there is pure or with 10% bio-ethanol too, in my place we have octane 93, octane 95, octane 97, but all of them with 10% bio-ethanol, i dont know if bio-ethanol affects fc. Thanks Bro. for 100% bio-ethanol fuel, fuel consumption could decrease 34% it is because bio-ethanol have 34% less energy compared to gasoline but in your case, only 10% bio-ethanol blend the fuel consumption figure should only less by around 3.4% (not pure ethanol, just blend) average fuel consumption given by forumers here around 15-19 km/l and you should get around that (with 3.4% different due to ethanol) the fuel consumption figure given by you is so low there must be something wrong maybe your car of something else |
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 18 2013, 04:27 PM) that's due to manual gearbox has fixed gear ratio and hence you can never travel on the same rpm you want constantly. The best you can do is to shift accordingly and keep the engine rpm in between 2,000 to 2,500 rpm range. Hi V12,most of the members here is driving the CVT version. CVT doesn't raise the rpm in tandem with the speed. The prime advantage of the CVT is the driver can choose to travel at which rpm he/she wish to, hence they all could maintain 2,000 rpm when travelling at normal, sensible speed. octane rating doesnt help that much in FC IMO. FC is based on how efficient you drive, how efficient you use your throttle and brakes. are you Brazilian? Yah im doing that, from 0 to 70 im maintining a 1.5k rpm, but when im 70 to 100kph im playing around 2k to 2.5k rpm, i guess will try the octane 95 to see if i will reach that 15 to 18km/L fc. Will report back once done, will just burned all the octane 93 in my tank. Nope... im not a brazilian...hehe.. why do u ask? Thanks bro... |
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 06:42 PM) Hi V12, coz South America has been the pioneer in blending ethanol in their fuel... Yah im doing that, from 0 to 70 im maintining a 1.5k rpm, but when im 70 to 100kph im playing around 2k to 2.5k rpm, i guess will try the octane 95 to see if i will reach that 15 to 18km/L fc. Will report back once done, will just burned all the octane 93 in my tank. Nope... im not a brazilian...hehe.. why do u ask? Thanks bro... I could be outdated though! Lol! |
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QUOTE(ikhwanstt @ Feb 18 2013, 05:59 PM) yes, bio-ethanol can effect fuel consumption Hey ikwanstt,for 100% bio-ethanol fuel, fuel consumption could decrease 34% it is because bio-ethanol have 34% less energy compared to gasoline but in your case, only 10% bio-ethanol blend the fuel consumption figure should only less by around 3.4% (not pure ethanol, just blend) average fuel consumption given by forumers here around 15-19 km/l and you should get around that (with 3.4% different due to ethanol) the fuel consumption figure given by you is so low there must be something wrong maybe your car of something else Thanks for replying, hmm i guess will try the octane 95 to octane 100 then will keep track of my fc, hope i can reach 15 19km/L. my mirage is only a month old and my odometer is just 770km. Thanks bro. |
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Feb 18 2013, 04:22 PM) Never reach that low FC as 8.5km/l b4. Even with jam from jalan duta all the way to jalan istana in 2 hour jam. Hey Edison,The trick is press rpm as low as possible, driving in slow lane can easily maintain at 1.5k - 2k rpm. If going down hill, no need accelerate at all, just let it roll down, the FC will increase very fast. When u almost reach tol, u can let it roll from quite far away, no need accelerate at all. New car equip with CVT is very different from the old car without it. You just need time to adjust to it. ANyway, where are you from? Our country "Malaysia" uses RON95 or RON97. Doesn't use octane 93. use RON 95 and 97 does gives difference, but the FC doesn't worth the extra money u spend on RON97. Thanks for the reply, really 2 hours traffic will consume a lot of fumes, when you are stock in traffic lets say from start of traffic you have a fc reading of 18km/L then your stock for 2hours, after getting out of the traffic, what is you km/L reading? does your reading decreases or it just stay in what value? This post has been edited by johnance17: Feb 18 2013, 06:58 PM |
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 06:52 PM) Hey Edison, Well, it depend on your journey, on evening im on a journey of around 60km with no traffic jam, so I believe the avg FC should be 18-19km/l , then on the night (on my way back) I was stuck in a traffic jam (very slow moving) I believe drop until 12-13km/l. So far my Avg. Fc doesn't drop below 10km/l. Unless you counted the part where you reach destination in less than 8min.Thanks for the reply, really 2 hours traffic will consume a lot of fumes, when you are stock in traffic lets say from start of traffic you have a fc reading of 18km/L then your stock for 2hours, after getting out of the traffic, what is you km/L reading? does your reading decreases or it just stay in what value? Aircond mostly are the culprit of low FC. Same day on the same traffic jam. with aircond my FC drop by 2km/l, without aircond it just drop 0.4-0.6km/l. I try go to work without aircond can easily hit 21km/l with around 30km journey. While with aircond I get 16-18km/l. While mine is auto. You should try drive at 70-90kmph. That my usual speed driving. Try use my result as reference Distance travel: 384km Petrol refilled : 26.824 Litre Avg. FC: 14.31km/l Petrol used: Unknown (free from SA) Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, random driving style and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road Distance Travel: 433km Petrol Refilled : 27.31 Litre Avg. FC: 15.85km/l Petrol used: BHP 95 Note : Petrol mixed with unknown petrol from b4 about 9 litre. 1 time stuck at Jalan Duta - Jalan istana for 2 hours. Aircond on all the time, Everything stok. Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road. Distance travel: 464km Petrol refilled : 26.80 Litre Avg. FC: 17.31km/l Petrol used: BHP 97 Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road a recent blur record show I can get 500km with RM50 petrol. Only if travel with Highway, not city road. btw have you modify any part of your car? eg: RIMs? coz I got a friend here that modified his RIM it impact on the FC quite a lot This post has been edited by Edison83: Feb 18 2013, 07:55 PM |
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