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 Official Club 6th Gen Mitsubishi Mirage 2012/2013, 1.2 3A92 MIVEC. Power to weight ratio !

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johnance17
post Feb 19 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Feb 18 2013, 07:54 PM)
Well, it depend on your journey, on evening im on a journey of around 60km with no traffic jam, so I believe the avg FC should be 18-19km/l , then on the night (on my way back) I was stuck in a traffic jam (very slow moving) I believe drop until 12-13km/l. So far my Avg. Fc doesn't drop below 10km/l. Unless you counted the part where you reach destination in less than 8min.

Aircond mostly are the culprit of low FC. Same day on the same traffic jam. with aircond my FC drop by 2km/l, without aircond it just drop 0.4-0.6km/l. I try go to work without aircond can easily hit 21km/l with around 30km journey. While with aircond I get 16-18km/l. While mine is auto. You should try drive at 70-90kmph. That my usual speed driving.

Try use my result as reference

Distance travel: 384km
Petrol refilled : 26.824 Litre
  Avg. FC: 14.31km/l
Petrol used: Unknown (free from SA)
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, random driving style and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road


Distance Travel: 433km
Petrol Refilled : 27.31 Litre
Avg. FC: 15.85km/l
Petrol used: BHP 95
Note : Petrol mixed with unknown petrol from b4 about 9 litre. 1 time stuck at Jalan Duta - Jalan istana for 2 hours. Aircond on all the time, Everything stok. Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.
Distance travel: 464km
Petrol refilled : 26.80 Litre
Avg. FC: 17.31km/l
Petrol used: BHP 97
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road

a recent blur record show I can get 500km with RM50 petrol. Only if travel with Highway, not city road.

btw have you modify any part of your car? eg: RIMs? coz I got a friend here that modified his RIM it impact on the FC quite a lot
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Hey Edison,

Thanks for this detailed explanation, surely will make this my reference , hmm looking at the figures, higher octane can make a big difference from BHP95 433km to BHP97 464km, me too i travel to work from house a distance of versa at a total of 30km which composed of city driving only (weekdays moderate to heavy traffic, up hill and down hill, a lot of stop and go, no highway) the highest fc i reached is arouund 12- 14kml/L with aircon level 2, but when traffic starts it goes down way to fast in 45mins time (bumper to bumper up hill heavy traffic) will reached the 8km/L reading in my fc. hmm do you always fill up full coz me only 20liters per fill up, later will try and fill up Octane95 or better will try the octane100 and report back here.

Thanks guys for answering my query's.

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post Feb 19 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 19 2013, 11:22 AM)
Hey Edison,

Thanks for this detailed explanation, surely will make this my reference , hmm looking at the figures, higher octane can make a big difference from BHP95 433km to BHP97 464km, me too i travel to  work from house a distance of  versa at a total of 30km which composed of city driving only (weekdays moderate to heavy traffic, up hill and down hill, a lot of stop and go, no highway) the highest fc i reached is arouund 12- 14kml/L with aircon level 2, but when traffic starts it goes down way to fast in 45mins time (bumper to bumper up hill heavy traffic) will reached the 8km/L reading in my fc. hmm do you always fill up full coz me only 20liters per fill up, later will try and fill up Octane95 or better will try the octane100 and report back here.

Thanks guys for answering my query's.
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I always refill on the last bar when its blinking.
Yes there are improvement RON97, but the extra money you fork out using RON97 not worth compare to RON95.
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post Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(RootOfJesse @ Feb 15 2013, 05:33 PM)
that was on the last day I drove around city.

Only refuel was a week ago, full tank. Nah, even today when i drove with rpm of less than 2k, averaging at 1.5k, it still shows the most is 14.5km/l. i don't see how 21km/l is achievable, must be marketing gimmick from mistu  sad.gif
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At first i also feels like Mitsu must be conning me, then after i learned constant momentum plus 1.5/2k rpm without much breaking bring my FC to 20.7km/L. Previously i also drove like mad man then noticing the saving was around 14 to 15km/L. Then adapted to the advise given by a promotion video from a dakar rally racer, i did get up to 20.7km.

Today i was at my usual road to work again, normally if i keep breaking then it will be around 11 to 13km/L avg.

even in jam condition today, i achieved 18.5km/L. i keep maximum distant from my front car so that i can keep rolling even in jam conditions. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kentlord @ Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM)
At first i also feels like Mitsu must be conning me, then after i learned constant momentum plus 1.5/2k rpm without much breaking bring my FC to 20.7km/L. Previously i also drove like mad man then noticing the saving was around 14 to 15km/L. Then adapted to the advise given by a promotion video from a dakar rally racer, i did get up to 20.7km.

Today i was at my usual road to work again, normally if i keep breaking then it will be around 11 to 13km/L avg.

even in jam condition today, i achieved 18.5km/L. i keep maximum distant from my front car so that i can keep rolling even in jam conditions.  thumbup.gif
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yeap. but I adapt it b4 the Dakar rally champ video. I constant monitor the meter. What ever I do I can see instant result.

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post Feb 19 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(kentlord @ Feb 19 2013, 02:33 PM)
At first i also feels like Mitsu must be conning me, then after i learned constant momentum plus 1.5/2k rpm without much breaking bring my FC to 20.7km/L. Previously i also drove like mad man then noticing the saving was around 14 to 15km/L. Then adapted to the advise given by a promotion video from a dakar rally racer, i did get up to 20.7km.

Today i was at my usual road to work again, normally if i keep breaking then it will be around 11 to 13km/L avg.

even in jam condition today, i achieved 18.5km/L. i keep maximum distant from my front car so that i can keep rolling even in jam conditions.  thumbup.gif
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Hi Kentlord,

how about in heavy traffic conditions, like in my experience, i reaching 12-14km/L (city driving w/aircon 22degress level 2) but when i reached the jam part of the road within 45minutes of getting stock and slow movement my fc will be around 8km/L.
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post Feb 19 2013, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:43 PM)
Hi Kentlord,

how about in heavy traffic conditions, like in my experience, i reaching 12-14km/L (city driving w/aircon 22degress level 2) but when i reached the jam part of the road within 45minutes of getting stock and slow movement my fc will be around 8km/L.
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just keep rolling my fren.... as long u maintain momentum, it will continued to save fuel. as for aircon i am at (24c level 1), when reached jam part, slow down to the point of not pressing on the accelerator just lightly touched on brake just to ensure no collision. Also leave maximum distant which is about 1.5 to 2 car lenght apart depending on jam condition just plan far enuff for u continue rolling endlessly.
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post Feb 19 2013, 03:59 PM

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anyway how many type of petrol have you guys tested?

So far i have tested below sorted from best (top) to worst (bottom) yet to try petronas.

BHP 95 - (best milage and power)
petron 97 - (slightly better than joe)
petron 95 - (average joe)
caltex 95 - (least noise but not as much on milage)
shell 95 - (noisy engine for some reason and bad milage in comparison)
shell 97 - (For some reason this had the worst milage but power are great and noisy)
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post Feb 19 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(kentlord @ Feb 19 2013, 03:51 PM)
just keep rolling my fren.... as long u maintain momentum, it will continued to save fuel. as for aircon i am at (24c level 1), when reached jam part, slow down to the point of not pressing on the accelerator just lightly touched on brake just to ensure no collision. Also leave maximum distant which is about 1.5 to 2 car lenght apart depending on jam condition just plan far enuff for u continue rolling endlessly.
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Thanks for the tip kentlord, will apply it and report back, later will fill up with octane 95, will just experiment with it first then will try octane 97 up to octane 100, to see which one will give the best fc.
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post Feb 19 2013, 09:02 PM

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anyone looling for mirage test drive can pm me to arrange
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post Feb 19 2013, 09:16 PM

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Ok

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post Feb 20 2013, 02:13 PM

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well give and take, nice fuel save came from practice.

it is an ECO car after all. we are doing the planet a favour by reducing carbon footprint too.

travelling to work most important is fuel save, save more then no need earn back petrol.

Anyway you can get Prius C as even you drive like a mad man u still can achieve 23km/L to 27km/L
johnance17
post Feb 20 2013, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Feb 18 2013, 07:54 PM)
Well, it depend on your journey, on evening im on a journey of around 60km with no traffic jam, so I believe the avg FC should be 18-19km/l , then on the night (on my way back) I was stuck in a traffic jam (very slow moving) I believe drop until 12-13km/l. So far my Avg. Fc doesn't drop below 10km/l. Unless you counted the part where you reach destination in less than 8min.

Aircond mostly are the culprit of low FC. Same day on the same traffic jam. with aircond my FC drop by 2km/l, without aircond it just drop 0.4-0.6km/l. I try go to work without aircond can easily hit 21km/l with around 30km journey. While with aircond I get 16-18km/l. While mine is auto. You should try drive at 70-90kmph. That my usual speed driving.

Try use my result as reference

Distance travel: 384km
Petrol refilled : 26.824 Litre
  Avg. FC: 14.31km/l
Petrol used: Unknown (free from SA)
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, random driving style and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road


Distance Travel: 433km
Petrol Refilled : 27.31 Litre
Avg. FC: 15.85km/l
Petrol used: BHP 95
Note : Petrol mixed with unknown petrol from b4 about 9 litre. 1 time stuck at Jalan Duta - Jalan istana for 2 hours. Aircond on all the time, Everything stok. Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.
Distance travel: 464km
Petrol refilled : 26.80 Litre
Avg. FC: 17.31km/l
Petrol used: BHP 97
Note : Automatic transmission, everything stok, Slow driving style 1.5-2k rpm (60-90kmph). KL road.and aircond mostly on at the most time. KL road

a recent blur record show I can get 500km with RM50 petrol. Only if travel with Highway, not city road.

btw have you modify any part of your car? eg: RIMs? coz I got a friend here that modified his RIM it impact on the FC quite a lot
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Hi edison,

Yesterday i fill up with octane 95 but didnt notice any difference in fc, i guess this is bcoz my fuel is still mix of octane 93 and 95, but today i felt the difference coz i have reached 17.1km/L in my usual 30km routine ac @22c level 1, hmm will test it more but this time will be doing the slow driving style with ac @ 26c level 1, thanks again bro.

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hi, am curious here. anyone seen any Mitsubishi showrooms with "Mica Grey" Mirage on display?
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Feb 21 2013, 08:34 AM)
hi, am curious here. anyone seen any Mitsubishi showrooms with "Mica Grey" Mirage on display?
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showroom, no. On roadshow yes. Check on their web see when is their roadshow. See their facebook page as well biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 20 2013, 08:52 PM)
Hi edison,

Yesterday i fill up with octane 95 but didnt notice any difference in fc,  i guess this is bcoz my fuel is still mix of octane 93 and 95,  but today i felt the difference coz i have reached 17.1km/L in my usual 30km routine ac @22c level 1, hmm will test it more but this time will be doing the slow driving style with ac @ 26c level 1, thanks again bro.
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Try use only fan instead of aircond if your weather allowed. I try it today, use only fan is equal turn off aircond.
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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Feb 21 2013, 09:26 AM)
showroom, no. On roadshow yes. Check on their web see when is their roadshow. See their facebook page as well biggrin.gif
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post Feb 21 2013, 08:22 PM

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Ok

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post Feb 22 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(RootOfJesse @ Feb 21 2013, 08:22 PM)
Hey guys,

So i've went for service at puchong sc.

Here's what I went through.

1. the appointment was set at 10.45, but have to wait till 11 to be entertained.

2. promised service completion at 12.30, at the end, waited till 1.40pm. however, the waiting lounge is very comfortable (there's movies and sleep-able sofa)

3. The SA was not friendly and dare to talk back to customers who want to make complaint.

4. No details of inspection made, but only through verbal. Car felt underpowered/heavy for not servicing at 1k km. (sure about engine breaking in issues, if any please clarify why mitsu refuse to service at 1k, while honda and toyota do)

that's pretty much how it went  icon_rolleyes.gif
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our car use synthetic oil and Iridium spark plug. Which doesn't require regular servicing. Iridium spark plug is schedule to change at 200k km. From what I know, u can fork out extra cash for servicing at 1k km or use the coupon. It just not worth it. My inspection also wait near 1 hour, the schedule there only mention took 30min.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Feb 21 2013, 08:34 AM)
hi, am curious here. anyone seen any Mitsubishi showrooms with "Mica Grey" Mirage on display?
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Actually u can call the showroom b4 going...they might have some ready stok or waiting to be passed over mica grey
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QUOTE(johnance17 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:57 PM)
Hi,

Hello guys, I am new here,i just bought this car (Mirage) and its just a month old, i read all the post from page 1 to page 50 and i tried all the possible solution i saw here 0-70kph @1.5k rpm, 70-100kph @2k rpm (correct me if im wrong,2k rpm is hard to maintain when you are at this speed coz in my experience its playing around 2.1 to 2.4 k @ gear 5), but i only manage max 12km/L and if it is traffic this figure goes below 8.5km/L city driving, my question is how do you guys reached those fc, if it is heavy traffic do you still managed to reach those fc, and what fuel are you using coz me im using the octane 93, is higher octane really makes difference in terms of fc?

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Hi......i drive a manual mirage.......i manage to get 17km/l manually counted on full tank. Based on my odo meter i get usual readings of 18km/l and without aircon i can get 20km/l...btw this is city drive not highway... (30 km traveled one way) I passed lost count of traffic lights.. From my experience from gear 1 to 3 try to change gear before 2k ...but do not change gear at very low rpm before gear 3 cause i notice underpower gear makes ur engine consumes more fuel. Average drive below 100kph will give u better FC than above 100kph... From my experience driving above 70 will give good fc on manual... Before reaching each stop usually i will free the gear to N and let it rolls to the point i have to break.. U don need the gear on since u r stopping right.... When u want to move on 1st gear try to let ur car roll a bit by realeasing lil bit of gear so the car can roll before you accelerate.... With this you don have to accel hard. And the clutch is good in mirage cause its light and its easily controlled i can use gear 1 even without stepping the clutch after gear change..oil control pedal very good control too.... One more thing i noticed that on gear 4 mainting rpm 1.5k give good fc don have to purposely change to gear 5 for lower fc cause this makes ur engine shivers on the underpower which consumes more fuel.... But u do need to change to gear 5 for higher speeds....

Fyi...... Rpm levels on CVT N manual is different

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