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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V48!, Can we have a better mod please?

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post Oct 23 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:42 PM)
Interesting hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Oct 23 2012, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Oct 23 2012, 10:21 PM)
Lancer GT one got a more premium price than inspira..I thought is the same..
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Same price lor....3200 & 3650 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 23 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Oct 23 2012, 10:43 PM)
Really in need of new specs  tongue.gif
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Looking to changing your suspension bro? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 24 2012, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Oct 24 2012, 12:15 AM)
U guys need compare apple to apple...

RCS = Clubsport RSi series

Price not even listed but from that chart u can see affordability ranks low... = $$$
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Actually even RCS are split between 2 different series.

The first is the Clubman Series & the other is the Motorsports Series.

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post Oct 24 2012, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Oct 24 2012, 12:42 AM)
Please enlighten (poison) us more...
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Clubsman Series

The Clubman Series is for the serious trackie & performance street cars. The Clubman Series has the same technology and precision that has been proven in
Motorsport Series.

The Clubman Series is cutting edge technology at an affordable price.

Motorsport Series

RCS made its name and built its core damping technology in the tough rally stages of the Malaysian Rally championship (MRC).

By adopting a holistic approach to every design solution, RCS has been able to deliver performance gains in all area of motorsport.

Motorsport dampers are available as fixed damping or 3-way adjustable.
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post Oct 24 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Oct 24 2012, 09:42 AM)
Around RM610
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Where was the above price extracted from?
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post Oct 24 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Oct 24 2012, 02:47 PM)
Today many ppl on leave ka? Forum so slow... 

Xai, still waiting for your rcs tech details...  dun feed us marketing stuff else I give u nzh...
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Woooo...enticing....is it tight enough brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 24 2012, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(botack @ Oct 24 2012, 08:17 PM)
u think i bring container to US is it...laugh.gif

u wait when it comes out at Malaysoa cannot meh?price also the same as malaysia here...still wanna buy here...sweat.gif
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Bungkus one Nasi Lemak & Burger Ramly Special for me can ah? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 24 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(jnick @ Oct 24 2012, 09:13 PM)
He gonna kill u Xai.

If me I will top up roti canai with teh Tarik !!
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Ok la ok la...

Bot, Teh Halia satu kasi bungkus mali....
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post Oct 27 2012, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Moveboy79 @ Oct 27 2012, 01:13 PM)
Bro, r u the one driving black Inspira BLH plate? If so, I'm the one behind u... it's not Lancer but silver Inspira 2.0P with Lancer look. brows.gif

I'm on my way to TT lah that's why need to cut straight into Armada exit liao.

Nice meeting u!  biggrin.gif


Added on October 27, 2012, 1:14 pm
Not K3 lah... i heard overseas jor.
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What a sight.. Simon posting on the forum... RARE EVENT!!!
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post Oct 27 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Moveboy79 @ Oct 27 2012, 01:43 PM)
Haha... Xai, RCS RCS RCS or Titan Titan Titan??  happy.gif
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After much contemplation and deep thinking and looking at the offer/package....

Also hearing and looking at what RCS has got to offer from its owner/founder...

I have decided to visit TiTAN tomorrow to check out their stuffs and compare it against RCS...

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post Oct 28 2012, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 28 2012, 08:48 PM)
poor student use proton brand suspension  blush.gif
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Proton TUNED suspension you mean... tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2012, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 28 2012, 08:53 PM)
ya, Proton TUNED, richard ask u when wanna test Titan  tongue.gif
Test TiTAN or test his TiTAN?

2 different things lor... tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2012, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 28 2012, 09:01 PM)
dont test his titan, like track car,  sweat.gif
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That hard huh?
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post Oct 28 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 28 2012, 09:13 PM)
hard , but can absorb bump well, for me i cannot accept the jumping issue, still need to find tune... the persona that we test with stock spring setup, not that sharp handling compare to richard's car, but still sharp. absorb bump quite good, best part is without the jumping issue when u doing low speed like most or the car equip with linear spring ( small straight roll spring ). overall balance quite good.
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What was miuk's spring rate? Same as Amin's right? 7-5 if I'm not mistaken.
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post Oct 28 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(aminmh @ Oct 28 2012, 10:22 PM)
hehe, same as me. but as i mentioned before, that would be the first setup for Miuk. give the abs time to settle in and later come back and give more feedback to titan and finetune.. not a problem..

hehe,  maybe xai can provide your feel on the titan ride u tested?

of course, feel n comfy or sedap is subjective and dependent to personal taste. but at least u got the option to try many settings before settling in..smile.gif


Added on October 28, 2012, 10:26 pm

korek !
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Maybe Xai will be giving feedback on another ride that he tested brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Xabi14Alonso @ Oct 29 2012, 07:47 AM)
Morning guys..everybody talking about titan..what happen to RCS??
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...is gonna happen soon icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 30 2012, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Oct 30 2012, 12:47 AM)
titan titan titan....
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Variation Variation Variation ... tongue.gif
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post Oct 30 2012, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(rublik @ Oct 30 2012, 01:38 AM)
RCS RCS RCS
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post Nov 4 2012, 11:35 PM

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I think I owe you guys all my REVIEW after visiting RCS on Saturday....so here it goes:

Well, as all may know the visit to RCS has been long overdue. We were supposed to meet Nandha say about 2 weeks back BUT due to some unavoidable circumstances, the visit was postponed and it finally materialized yesterday.

It was me & Rublik who were there first and we met Nandha who later introduced us to his partner Clayton. The first point of discussion that we started off with was on the top mount that definitely needs to be replaced if at all we resorted to taking the RCS dampers. It hit a pit-stop when Clayton shared with us a prototype BILSTEIN dampers that they were working on. Looked really exotic but we didn't go too much in-depth on that. From there, the discussion branched out to the real subject and Clayton took the lead and brought us to their workshop to explain more on RCS as a company and its products.

RCS is actually a chassis development & suspension 'Engineering' company. I bolded the word engineering solely because that was the first thing that impressed me - that RCS does not do custom suspension but they instead engineer them. Its not your run down the store - off the shelf suspensions nor are they off the catalog - piece by piece ordered stuffs then put together stuffs. Their core business has always been in the Motorsports Industry and it was just most recently that they opened their doors for walk-in regular customers. Their stuff are all designed, engineered and manufactured fully at their own backyard. Notable work that they have done extends to many car manufacturer's RnD & Test Unit cars and Clayton was nice enough to show us a test KYB absorbers that was sent to RCS by KYB themselves to engineer the damping and rebound before it goes to their test cars and ultimately into the mass production. He explained how the test absorbers work and the difference of the serviceable & non-serviceable absorbers.

Up next he started talking to us (at this point it was still me & rublik) about their own designed pistons that is the core of their trademark 'Velocity Sensitive Damping'. He explained on its functionality and its mechanics before diving into what I deem only the 'Experts' will talk about - he started talking to us about the Digressive Valving method that RCS uses and how it differs from other method of valving. He also added on how the graph for Digressive Valving reflects on compression and rebound. Don't ask me in depth of what's so great about this method but all I know is that RCS uses an hybrid of Digressive then Progressive Valving which maximizes the benefit of both rebound & compression. He did mention that the most common method of valving is Linear but that is slowly changing. See the video below for more explanation:



Moving on it was his explanation on the whole bit of how their piston rods, shim shacks and monotubes are manufactured and assembled. He showed us side by side comparison of RCS's higher-end Motorsports Series suspension (which retails from RM12k onwards) & the more subtle street-grade Clubman Series suspensions - Both were identical it terms of structure and quality of materials used.

Up next was on their servicing methods and items used. RCS uses only the high grade FUCHS Silkolene Fully Synthetic Oil and some brand of high grade seals (I totally forgot which brand that Clayton mentioned) in their products irregardless for the Motorsports or the Clubman Series lineup - both gets only the best serviceable parts.

***Right after this point, XC & later on after lunch miuk joined us and the whole flow above repeated itself just like how it started off but it got topped off with the nitrogen injection method that RCS uses. There was an interesting explanation as to why RCS chose to use an separate injection method for the nitrogen gas on their monotubes. I would deem it a fair crack as Clayton explained on the advantage of using this method on their products and I found it really sensible. For low volume production like RCS - it would be more suitable.

Now, some may disagree with me on the next few lines but for me these guys know their sh*t.....Their entire business is based on professional racing. It is not a venue for large volume products. When you deal with RCS whose products are racing & motorsports suspension components, you have a distinct advantage in response, quality, delivery, and an understood “it-has-to-be-right-the-first-time” mode of operation. Which explains why XC was not that impressed when Clayton mentioned that they usually don't welcome multiple drive-ins requesting for adjustments to be done on the setting and all because they will practically & theoretically 'engineer' the suspensions for you and ensure it performs to its highest standard whilst meeting all the required compliance and regulation set by the industry. Well, I am sure they will entertain to an certain extend on minor adjustments and all....it's not gonna be like 'You drive out from RCS and you're on your own brother' kinda thing.

All I can say is Suspensions & Chassis Development is their core business and passion. They are not at all looking for volume nor competing against or superseding any other brands or companies. They are benchmarking their products against other exotic brands like OHLINS, BILSTEIN & PENSKE - which is not a bad thing to begin with, you just have set a higher standard for your product.

Now is RCS my cup of tea??? - I don't know and I may never know until I have em' fitted on my ride BUT knowing the background these guys come from and their line of customers and clientele - it maybe a safe bet. nod.gif

Am I gonna opt for RCS - I haven't decided yet. All I know is that I made full use of my 3-4 hours there to enrich myself on suspension knowledge and its mechanics.
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NEXT UP - a visit to TITAN before making up my mind. icon_rolleyes.gif

***Oh ya, we didn't get to test any ride fitted on RCS as Clayton mentioned that its never gonna be the same testing the suspensions on another ride which has totally different setting and workability. Agree with him on that but maybe the icing on the cake would have been better with a test ride.

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