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post Sep 20 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Sep 20 2013, 05:57 PM)
lelong first. then can start another project.
what should i keep?
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The other sis is back. biggrin.gif


Like Aimank said, paddlefish would be nice, or sturgeon.

Or this:

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Or this: Tamandua
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Or any sort of knifefish. They're awesome.





Just to share, I found these photos of great looking tanks



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Unrelated, but this photo is too awesome. Nature's aquarium.

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beer8bottles
post Sep 22 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Sep 22 2013, 05:04 AM)
I cant bear the thought of them being hungry. Lol. I feed em 2-3 times a week.. WC once a week. But since my oscar have HITH, i think ill take ur advice and do WC twice a week. 20-30% of water i guess.
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Same here. I tend to feed my aba-aba almost every other day. The moment it looks at me or follows me around when I walk past the tank, I have to give it some food. Right now, it can finish off two 15cm feeder catfish at one go.






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post Sep 22 2013, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(asyraf_irsyad @ Sep 22 2013, 03:55 AM)
found this species in puchong prima...
they called it red monk...
quite sporty and a great fighter..
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Wow,, quite a lot of people here like the Oscar.


Here, some photos for you Oscar people biggrin.gif
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More photos to liven up this place smile.gif

(Where did they find giant driftwood like that? So jealous.)

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I want a tank like this:
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Or at least like this:
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Or like this
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Mr. Amano has the best job in the world.





Planted tanks look great to house monster fish.

By the way, do any of you have problems with your monsters? Do they "redecorate" the tank?


Mine has uprooted all the plastic plants, pulled off the ones I secured to the driftwood and moved the stones about the tank. It even moved the foot long air stone. rclxub.gif
Is it possible to make it stop doing that?
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post Sep 30 2013, 01:06 AM

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Sad news....
I was away on a company trip and when I returned home last Thursday, my parents told me that my tank was leaking.

The poor fish had to be transferred back into the 4ft tank. It seemed pretty upset.

There is no repairing the tank. I got it second hand and I guess the silicon had dried up and all. So I had to order a new tank.

Damn it.

Please be careful when buying secondhand tanks, that's all I can say.


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post Oct 1 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Sep 30 2013, 03:49 AM)
Cant re-silicon the whole thing? tongue.gif

I mean if theres no cracks, why not? Should cost less than buying a new tank?
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QUOTE(antzz @ Sep 30 2013, 08:52 AM)
Really sorry to hear that. Why u said 'no repairing', is it that u dont want to repair it on purpose? Cuz i think if its just joint leaking, still can re-silicon it. The cost wont be as much as replacing new glass, if its only re-silliconing.

I remember my mom used to apply new side glass of her old aquarium, years ago when i was a child. In her case, she just sent the tank (a lot easier cuz only 3 footer) to an alum-glass shop and got them fix it.

Above all, i know its really a pain dealing with giant size tank, especially the weight and fragility. Thats why i prefer plastic or fibreglass tank for outdoor use. But dont worry la, u have our support, morally at least.
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Thank you for all the support. It was really frustrating seeing that I had only just set it up and the fish was getting used to a much bigger tank.

There aren't any visible cracks. I think it has to do with the silicon. My elder brother checked it, he said the water is leaking out of the back and two other places in front. Water just drips out like a leaky tap.

The things is, the water volume is 1040 L, which equates to 1040 kg. To re-slilicon it would not guarantee that it will not leak again. Plus I'd have to fill it up with water to test it. That's a lot of water involved. And the sheer size of it, I don't want to take any chances.



Also, do you think it's possible for me to get the aquarium maker to cut up the faulty 8 ft tank and reconstruct it into a smaller tank, say about 5ft?
Because to just throw it away seems like a big waste. Plus the glass is still in good condition.

Unless anyone knows people who'd want to buy it. Please contact me.
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post Oct 10 2013, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(Matthewksexy @ Oct 10 2013, 08:47 AM)
yeah i have a self made pond at my garden... 5ft x 2.5ft x 2 ft. i got time i will post some picture..
the tank is not something fancy.. but i like it.. my profile picture the tiger catfish is taken inside my pond..
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OMG! Self-made pond! rclxms.gif

Do share all the technical details.

I would love to make one. There are currently 2 huge water tanks (from the house renovations) sitting in the garden. My dad was planning on keeping tilapia (to eat. Yucks...). I was planning on moving my lungfish into it.



QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 10 2013, 10:14 AM)
Dont tell me.. dont tell me.. all this while uve been cheating around with ur sexy pond without us knowing? This is horribly a betrayal, a great treachery!
How dare u do that lah!!

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All of us dreaming of a pond, at least. In fact, GATF dude Genie has been lurking in DIY ponding for quite some time before, but still no news of any progress IRL. Dunno if she's been chaeting on us too..

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Why are you all so mean to Genie, huh?
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post Oct 10 2013, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 10 2013, 07:37 PM)
Channa.. i dont like channas in general, dunno why.. But maybe will like them in future, who knows.
U.. u have a lungfish?!! How come i dunno that? Grr.. mad.gif 

Well, maybe i'd consider to forgive u, if u can give me any of the tanks, or both, if it pleases u more tongue.gif
We dont see it that way. In fact, thats how we get along and develop affectionate relationship. Ala.. nak mesra sikit pun x boleh ke? tongue.gif
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Hahahahaha, I didn't know.

Tanks are precious. Cannot simply give away. But no time to set it up right now. The new 8ft tank has arrived and it's currently being filled with water. Gonna transfer the aba-aba back this Sunday evening. Cannot wait!

I got the lungfish from one of the forumers here. Khairulanuar. Lately, he's been seen selling off all his collection. He had quite a good collection too.

I saw this ad on Mudah:
http://www.mudah.my/Rare+Pre+Historic+Fres...sh-23716796.htm

Anyone know what type of fish that is? It looks like a loach.

And somehow, I feel like getting it.


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post Oct 11 2013, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 11 2013, 12:42 AM)
Ya lah.. u think i was serious about the tank? Grrr..

Yeah i still remember that Khairulanuar guy. He used to hv great collection esp of bichirs.

Good luck about that fish. Looks really strange, and also even stranger that no one can tell what fish it really is..

Cant wait to see ur setup of the new tank. Will it gonna be sexy and seditious? brows.gif
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My tank is more like barren and empty. I need to get more driftwood. Any one willing to sell to me? (Cheap, cheap okay tongue.gif)
Need more plastic plants too. I put in some real one (the seaweed type) and it destroyed and uprooted everything. ~sigh~
So messy.


QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Oct 11 2013, 07:53 AM)
Sis, ur so outdated. Even I know beer bro has a lungfish  cool2.gif
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Why you call me bro now? blink.gif I am a sis, okay.
I not tok to you anymore.

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post Oct 11 2013, 09:10 PM

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http://www.mudah.my/Rare+Pre+Historic+Fres...sh-23716796.htm

This rare prehistoric fish has been identified to be a Saddleback Loach.

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/homal...a-orthogoniata/

I don't think I'll be getting it for RM 150. O_O

Sungai Buloh? Okay, I'll make a trip there one day. I need at least 3 more pieces. The tank still looks so bare now.
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post Oct 14 2013, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Matthewksexy @ Oct 13 2013, 07:47 PM)
My fish.....
Nice fish! I used to have a shovelnose too. Grew really fast.

How did you construct that pond? Any tips? drool.gif
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post Oct 22 2013, 08:14 PM

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Fish logic:

I just fed you two huge @ss lampam, your tummy is bulging, and yet you still chase all those tiny guppies and gulp them down.

Fish, now how can you still be hungry?

@_@
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post Nov 6 2013, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Nov 5 2013, 02:28 PM)
Thanks. Blackskirt tetra or black widow tetra LOL.

I'll consider richer base soon. Maybe artificial grass and few more stones.
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Add some gravel too. Bottom looks so bare. And cold. And shiny. And cold. tongue.gif


I'm planning to start a tank like this too. My dad recommended neon tetras (because that's the only fish he likes).
I was thinking of getting killifish.


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post Nov 12 2013, 12:19 PM

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Guys, my aba-aba injured its mouth.

I noticed that it was behaving strange on Saturday evening, it wasn't swimming around the tank like usual. I thought that it was hungry, so I plopped in a catfish. It would chase after the catfish, corner it but then let it swim away. This has never happened before. It would normally just kill it on the spot.

On Sunday, the catfish was still there. On Monday, the catfish had eaten up the cleaner shrimps and has gotten fatter. The aba-aba seems to be leaving it alone.

I noticed that the aba-aba's mouth was slightly open, like it's saying "O". It's usually closed, and it has the smiling face appearance. Now, it just looks in pain. And there is also some whitish skin in its mouth.


Just now, I sat there observing it and it opened its mouth and shook its head violently to try and get rid of the skin in its mouth. I saw that its tongue was injured and there was blood on the inside of the bottom jaw.



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I don't know how this could have happen. It does like to move the sand about in the tank, but so far, for years, nothing like this has happened. And it usually eats up the catfish whole, so it can't be the spikes on the catfish.

The aba-aba seems to come close to the glass and lift its head for me to see the injury.


What should I do? Is there any treatment or something that I can do?


There aren't any fish vets that I know of.

I don't want it to die.

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post Nov 12 2013, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Nov 12 2013, 12:56 PM)
Wow.. sorry to hear that. Sounds like ur fish is quite in a situation. Could it be that the fish injured itself when trying to cath its prey? U know, the driftwood.. looks quite.. pointy unsure.gif

The reason why i dislike rock pointy decorations, is that i often see them make quick sudden movement when catching prey. They might hit sharp objects real hard.

But maybe thats just me.. me and my assumption. i hope ur aba-aba is not in serious injury anyway. I regret that i cannot offer any advise to ease the pain. Just, maybe have to rely on natural healing process.. sad.gif
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Yeah, the driftwood looks rather pointy. sad.gif But I don't think it's because of the wood. The wood has been in the tank for 2 - 3 weeks already.
It would only move the sand about with its mouth. I've thoroughly washed the sand and checked for bits of glass before I placed it into the tank.

Maybe it's the catfish. That stupid catfish.

I asked a few people and they said it would heal naturally.

I emailed Aquaria KLCC for advice too. I kinda panicked when I saw the blood.


Thanks for your response.

Hopefully it heals soon.
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post Nov 15 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Nov 12 2013, 07:59 PM)
This pond so awesome drool.gif



I wonder how to get thick glasses for pond construction. Any idea? And the cost..
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This pond.. OMG!

Is there any way to keep the water in these kind of ponds crystal clear?


QUOTE(antzz @ Nov 14 2013, 03:27 PM)

@beer8bottles hows ur aba-aba doing?

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Aba-aba has begun to eat lampams. It's mouth looks less swollen too. I didn't add any salt as I had no time to stop by the LFS. I guess fish kinda heal on their own. It did have me panicking though.

The catfish is still there in the tank. The aba-aba seems to be scared of it. =_= I've to start clipping off the spikes before I feed it.


QUOTE(antzz @ Nov 14 2013, 11:10 PM)
Just now when i reached home, found out 1 of the black skirt tetras dead. Could it be that it was overfed? Other fishes look good, begging for food and energetic as always.

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Bloat?

QUOTE(awansakti @ Nov 15 2013, 07:36 AM)
huh tak terpikir lak nak tengok mudah kan.murah oo tp kt kapar.lori berapa?800-1000 if send from kapar to seremban?
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Ask the LFS to get their people to carry the tank. Road side lorry people aren't very experienced. They may crack the tank during transportation. Should cost about RM500.
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post Dec 16 2013, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 14 2013, 10:47 AM)
Hey guys, as usual great to see this thread still on the first page, the love for fishes is awesome biggrin.gif Sooo does anyone know how much a UV sterilizer cost? I need one for my 3 footer cause its getting sunlight and its very green sad.gif
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About RM 90 - RM 100. This is the submersible type. I think mine is 9W. Or 12 W. I can't remember,









Anyhow, an electric eel (about 1ft long) was spotted at Irene's. It's going for 1.2k.
Tempting.

There are 2 tigrinus catfish going for 1.2k too. So beautiful but no more tanks to keep them. sad.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 16 2013, 09:06 PM)
Should be okay, skin or without, see how health conscious you are for the fish hehe. Of course rid of all the oil first, I do that sometimes, don't wanna waste leftover food smile.gif
Hahhahaa not much update, been the same group of fishies for years, just that I bought a toman few months back and it seemed to disappear, maybe pacus :3 No more space to keep fishes now :3 You?
Hmm, where is your tank located? Why did you get a sterilizer?
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My tank is under the porch. It get's some evening sun.
Thinking of getting another UV.




QUOTE(RCrex @ Dec 16 2013, 09:26 PM)
my other 3 bichir collection
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Nice lap. Wanna let go?

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post Dec 24 2013, 07:05 PM

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Sharing pictures:

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Feeder fish buffet.
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The result of redecorating the tank. It's such a rascal.
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Lots of poop
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What other fish can I put in? The tank looks so bare with just one fish.
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post Dec 24 2013, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 24 2013, 07:09 PM)
Its bullfrog frenzy for Aragorn now. Only now i know a lfs here gets his supply of bullfrog every tuesday, and theyre selling fast! So few days ago i told him to keep some for me, and today i got quite ample supply for Aragorn biggrin.gif
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Sorry for those who geli at katak, did not mean to make u geli tongue.gif
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Your fish has no problem with bullfrogs? My fish will bite and spit out. My brother said it's the taste. Normal frogs taste smoother, bullfrogs taste rubbery. (Maybe he actually tasted it, I dunno. Hahahahaha... tongue.gif )

Which LFS do you go to?


QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 24 2013, 07:59 PM)
Wah ur aba-aba looking very amazing la.. the skin somehow looks dolphin-like smile.gif

Maybe u should try bichirs? Theyre peaceful and look good in a long giant tank. If u want i may consider to give franky away as a gift. For elite monsterkeepers only, and strictly self-pick.
Ur RTC so tempting one. Ive always want one, but later dunno whom to give when it gets bigger.

Using blue light?
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Which one is Franky? And honestly, I am quite scared to put any other fish into the tank with the aba-aba. Later Franky gets eaten or something .. shocking.gif
I've tried sebarau. Its tail was eaten. Left half of the body. I put in puyu, it got eaten whole.

I put in a crayfish. Crayfish kena attacked and it attacked back, aba-aba's mouth was injured. cry.gif Had to take the crayfish out.

Was thinking of getting cheap stingrays, but knowing the aba-aba it'll disturb it and maybe get injured.




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post Dec 24 2013, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Dec 24 2013, 09:11 PM)
Nope. Aragorn eat them whole, and he seems to like them more than every other foods ive given before. So im quite happy to add bullfrog as an alternative to his usual diet.

The LFS? Here in kb la, dun think u'll know it since ure far from seremban, rite? But its good that i know when is weekly supply will arrive, so can always plan to buy food stocks.

Back then i had 2 polypterus endlicheri, named them frankenstein I and II laugh.gif Both of them made a great combo of killing machine, finally i x tahan banyak sgt diorang makan small fishes. So i sold one of them. Now only have 1 endlicheri and 1 ornate bichir.

But lately Aragorn has aggression issues with franky, always assault him in the bottom. I just put another driftwood to let franky hide, and both seem to be happy then.

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Btw he is about 1.5' long.
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That's one beautiful endli. I understand the makan banyak part.

Right now I spend almost RM 40 per week on the aba -aba.

RM 10 for catfish (10 tails)
RM 10 for lampam (20 tails)
RM 10 for the white fish, seluang (at Irene PJ it's RM 1 for 10 or 12, at this other LFS it's RM 1 for 20 tails but depends on your luck, usually it's all sold by the time I reach there.)
RM 5 for baby carp
RM 5 for shrimp or longkang fish


I have 2 Polypterus senegalus. One is a surviving 13 year old. The other one is 1 year old. Bought it to keep the older one company. The older one has spots. I think it's liver spots. I've trained them to eat pellets. Live feeder were costing a bomb.

Have to start breeding my own feeders.


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