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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V33, The People's Car

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post Oct 18 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(J Camp @ Oct 18 2012, 11:23 AM)
i see..but if you say less power on the preve, the spec shows the same hp and nm which is 108 hp and 150 nm for both preve and saga se.

what i'm surprise is the huge difference in fuel consumption for both the preve and saga se.

i'm expecting the saga to have a better fc as its much lighther..but its not.

anyway like you mention..maybe we should not trust fully the fc figures from the manufacturer..

thanks for the explanation..
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Don't just focus on the max HP and torque figures. They may be the same but the torque curve may be different. For example, FLX have tonnes of torque at low end RPM which is nice for city drive, but Preve has less torque on the low end so it saves fuel, but suffers on city driving (JUST AN EXAMPLE, NOT NECESSARILY TRUE).

Maybe mat79 can shed some light on this.

This post has been edited by dares: Oct 18 2012, 11:32 AM
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(tiensong @ Oct 18 2012, 11:34 AM)
preve non turbo how much?
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Wrong thread vmad.gif

Manual RM60k, CVT RM63k

Ask for year end discount.
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 18 2012, 11:39 AM)
me Rally of Keramat Wangsa Maju.
u join Rally of PJ.
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You rally masuk gaung ade la.
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post Oct 18 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 18 2012, 12:06 PM)
abang v12k has spoken!


Added on October 18, 2012, 12:12 pmsayang sayang semua.

macam mana nak remove the scratches dekat tempat pembuka pintu tu..

white and scratches really make that spot ugly sad.gif
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a simple wax will do.
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post Oct 18 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:29 PM)
if u dunno how, ask dares, coz his the butts3ck king...
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dont need buttseck, need buttwax. That department need to contact YAB whistling.gif
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post Oct 18 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:38 PM)
whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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More insulflex for you
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post Oct 18 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:50 PM)
going to do my car soon...  whistling.gif
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nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 12:56 pm
QUOTE(GP mad man @ Oct 18 2012, 12:50 PM)
call me when u going to do it  whistling.gif
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Remember to bring your own insulflex. Takut nanti tak cukup.

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post Oct 18 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Oct 18 2012, 01:31 PM)
shocking.gif
u dah tukar engine turbo?
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Tiong only, didn't say overtake. You can tiong whatever car you want, F1 car also can.

Last night I also tiong GTR in residential area with alot of bumps whistling.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 1:42 pm
QUOTE(Mahihi @ Oct 18 2012, 01:34 PM)
1,weight,
2,user posted image
3,preve rpm when driving 90 km/h is 1.8k isnt it???look at the graph,imo if wan to achieve better fc,2k will be the better1,they put it as 90 km/h as benchmark coz most of the car manufacturer is set at 90 km/h
4,cfe not tuned for high speed cruising
5. turbo lag + dbw lag??????<<<<<<bullshit
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Abang, he was asking about the Preve NON-TURBO engine.....

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post Oct 18 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 18 2012, 01:52 PM)
CFE torque curve 1000-2000rpm straight line, 2000-4000 also straight line, straight until unbelievable.

Haiz, manufacturer vs consumer, it will be like rat vs cat forever...manufacturer will korek their idea to make things look perfect, while consumer will find lubang to disclosed the imperfect of the things.

Manufacturer FC could be the 'fake' one, their torque curve could be the same case also, only sky know.
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I also don't believe the torque curve between 1k-2k RPM is linear like that hmm.gif

Wanna know the truth, pinjam kawan mia Preve CFE, gantung enjin and dyno the flywheel brows.gif
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Oct 18 2012, 02:03 PM)
Ya saw that before. I still skeptical about the authenticity, or whether it is a stock setup.

159hp/232Nm, on-wheel summore.
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Oct 18 2012, 02:08 PM)
hehehehe,dastek mah,like 1 of the comment said,deduct 20 hp then correct ad,lols...
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Lol, deduct 20hp still alot. On wheel dyno wor, deduct another 20hp la.
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Oct 18 2012, 02:11 PM)
maybe it is dat superior???xD normally 1st batch car is the most powderful1....
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Nanti CVT explode ph34r.gif


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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Oct 18 2012, 02:11 PM)
if the driver can teleport,saga 1.3 also can pawn 1.8 lancer 1.8 altis.....true story....  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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FIXED

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post Oct 18 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 02:30 PM)
me pulak...  doh.gif

dont have tt... wana find mahihi to tune my car...  whistling.gif
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Tuning TT = TTT
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Oct 18 2012, 02:43 PM)
i also used to speed on karak highway, ate alot of daging salai so now 90kmh all the way innocent.gif

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FIKSED
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 18 2012, 09:10 PM)
lols... my siggy ngam ngam got 15 lines one leh... aiya... ignore those ppl la... i no eye see adi...
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Siggy kena nuke no need emo so many days la. unsure.gif

I laugh at other ppl's dugong joke also kena report and 10% warning (laugh only, didnt even say anything), V12k spam nyan nyan nyan in Persona thread also kena report and warning.

Dun be so serious, bukannya hilang satu bulu. smile.gif Got better things to be angry at.

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post Oct 18 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 18 2012, 09:17 PM)
thats why i say i rather dun want to care about those sei sor hai adi lor... so like to nuke ppl... one day that sei sor hai confirm kena nuke back one...
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But you keep bringing it up. OK jor, talk about other things.
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 09:20 PM)
oii brake fluid can change outside rite? no need SC rite.. wont void warranty rite??
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you change outside they also won't know gua. Besides, I think your brakes warranty already expired. You call iCare ask and see.


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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 18 2012, 09:22 PM)
talk other things ?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Ya other things, such as r3aper's mia fluids whistling.gif

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post Oct 18 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 09:25 PM)
sat go ask... coz wana service car...as feel wana use other brake fluid...lolz...
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Nothing better to do ar why go and change brake fluid? brakes no good already ah?

Change pads better
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 09:27 PM)
endless... hmm.gif
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DOT 5?
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 09:28 PM)
pad will change to rapidstop.... if wallet allow... laugh.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 9:30 pm

not sure wor..haha.... need to check only know...if not castrol brake fluid...


Added on October 18, 2012, 9:30 pmbtw our car is DOT 3, 4 or 5?
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If ayam not mistaken, DOT 4.

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