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davidke20
post Oct 26 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Invalid Username @ Oct 26 2012, 06:06 PM)
but fuelly doesn't know how much i fueled up the previous time right?
and also Liters is in respect to this fuel up or the previous fuel up?
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First, you fill in how many KM travelled. Then key in the current tank how many litre you filled up. That's it, do this every time. When we talking about fuelly, automatically we know we're using the current tank of petrol to calculate the previous tank of mileage, so it's ok. We recommend full tank fill up. But even if you don't it's no harm. Despite data may not be reliable for individual fuel up, but over the long run the average figure will tell the truth. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 26 2012, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Invalid Username @ Oct 26 2012, 07:40 PM)
oh i never knew we're using the current tank to calculate the previous mileage. kk thx smile.gif
it's ok if my first mileage is not 100% accurate right? didn't remember after the decimal lol.
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Make yourself comfortable with the fuelly routine first. After several fuel ups, you have more data, then only decide whether you wanna take off the 1st fuel up. rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 26 2012, 08:21 PM

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Those who haven't make payment & confirm order on 23rd October 2012 I'm sorry to have left you out and proceed to order to be fair to others

There is 2 type of blower casing designed in BLM/FL/FLX.

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This type of pollen filter, the casing door lock situated at the left side. To install paper cabin filter, you'll have to take out the pollen filter, plot the paper filter inside the pollen filter before slot them back. You can't use 2x paper filter.

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If you have this type of pollen filter, the casing door lock situated at the right side. To install paper cabin filter, you'll have to take out the pollen filter, slot the paper cabin filter into the casing, it will fit in nicely. Then you put back the pollen filter ON TOP of the paper filter before you close your casing door.

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CABIN FILTER DIY INSTALLATION TT
COD DIY TT = McD Sri Damansara
COD DIY Date = The day after Hari Raya Haji 27th October 2012
COD DIY Time = 12:00am ~ 3:00pm(McValue Lunch, as low as RM5.95 icon_idea.gif )
Suggested guest appearance = Leona Chin, leave to iskazulka, r3apers & alister88 the humsap trio to negotiate with Leona

Attendance:
1) davidke20
2) v12kompressor
3) nickzcuso
4) kenjilew
5) r3apers
6) iskazulka
7) eqmal

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post Oct 27 2012, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 27 2012, 10:33 PM)
everybody sudah tido ka?


Added on October 27, 2012, 10:33 pmeverybody sudah tido ka?
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post Oct 27 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 27 2012, 10:47 PM)
me too. good time with YAB's daughter, although a short one. met babYAB, an exclusive session. busy babysitting my son. got privilege inside nickzkuzo's persoga,  with YAB's driving. (can smell the showroom smell). as usual talk trash with flx owner, eqmal, last time was zulkja. just realised leona was at sunway, reapers late info to me, if i know, maybe i went to sunway there first, but because i wanna save nick's face, so have to stick to original plan.

about the TT, i came to esso near pandan safari around 10.45am. for awhile, kenji came with eqmal, later nick came with persoga!!!! after nick arrive, because everybody donno how to go there, i volunteered myself to the the marshal, eventhough i am not very sure how to get there, followed by nick, eqmal & kenji. trusted with googlemap printout (my usual GPS since TT sri petaling) we sesat for awhile, because i not purposedly entering to SD1-SD5 area. so we got out from there, entering the highway again and entering SD11-16 area. when we saw McD, i was very glad. being the marshal is not easy when persoga tionged you from behind. lol.

so, the attendees are me, nick, YAB's family, kenji, eqmal & uncle choy. at first i thought uncle choy is YAB's dad.  sweat.gif but later recalled someone said uncle choy would be attending. i thought uncle choy would be as young as YAB.  sweat.gif
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thank you for the wonderful write up. sorry for the trouble to have you guys all the way down here. much appreciate the effort, my family have a good time with you guys various GaGa around(and 1 alien as well).

To have this my success story, finally managed to poisoned eqmal to take up his cabin filter after last time FFK. I hope he enjoy the fresh air, cooling coil stay longer. icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 27 2012, 11:39 PM)
i havent met YAB baby yet... coz david dah nak balik... and say bur bye to YAB Mrs & Daughetr..... lol.. already bring out my DSLR camera to prepared take shot of YABaby but not a chance.. dah balik... lolz
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sorry man, you're a little too late. I was buying everybody a lunch treat, may I offer you to buy you next time around?

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post Oct 28 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 28 2012, 09:07 AM)
The white one with stripes is the XTR limited edition variant, RM 5-6k more expensive  drool.gif  drool.gif . Differences are mostly aesthetic, leather seats, bodykit, carpet mats. The most important difference is that it has 7 airbags compared to the normal Fofi S hatchback which only has 2.

Just saying nia about YAB and Preve. Last time we talked about it, he doesn't seem impressed  tongue.gif
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Which 1 is pebe? This 1? Owh... I'm.... impressed... yawn.gif

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post Oct 28 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 28 2012, 11:41 AM)
Dun be silly like me.

Go buy Dugong J, then mod til look like TRDSportivo  whistling.gif

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sporty giler  wub.gif
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post Oct 28 2012, 04:31 PM

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post Oct 28 2012, 07:42 PM

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Kenji rclxm9.gif the unoewut i managed to restored it now in working condition rclxms.gif

Also ordered universal protocol obd2 scanner brows.gif
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post Oct 28 2012, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 28 2012, 09:19 PM)
haha...nvm la... since no choice coz got working...lolz... next time u wana treat me wat?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Can arrange geh smile.gif

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 28 2012, 09:27 PM)
WTH ? i spent one day one night also cannot... sad.gif

can read my baby silver blm punya ecu kah ?  wub.gif  wub.gif
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Don't know yet. Universal, by right it can read anything lar nod.gif I so daring to buy because of Gabby only, if really BLM can't use atleast I can plonk it on Gabby laugh.gif
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post Oct 28 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 28 2012, 10:46 PM)
berapa damage ? lols... white rat white rat... if can then i have to consider adi... now iphone naik kereta buka AES scanner... so OBD2 reader device dunno how adi...
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post Oct 29 2012, 09:37 AM

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Ops Kopitiam started, but cars club got out of hand sleep.gif Anyway Kenji, the ranjiao unoehuat died again jor. Really hopeless lar. Now my problem will be, getting the universal OBD reader, but doesn't have a unoehuat to display doh.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 10:45 AM

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Ops Kopitiam is operasi tangkap R&R offender such as use of vulgar words, racism, political sensitive discussion etc sleep.gif I think me 1st will kena, so many fuck sh!t ass bastard etc...

My unoehuat "brick" 9 jor. Everytime went to sleep mode kenot wake up. When wake up it went auto reboot loop, need to hard reset(factory restore). I was so happy it was repaired uses 2 days without problem, so I proceed to order the universal OBD reader, in the hope to see some action in my BLM. Now... Haiz. Where got monay to buy another unoehuat? Should have invest in iPag instead sleep.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(zxvs @ Oct 29 2012, 12:22 PM)
helo bro.. i have question my saga fl gears 5 problem it bit hard n stuck when to put the gear to 5.. wat the comment problem n how to solve it?? have any user saga fl manual 1.3 having this problem..?? any suggest n plz help.. rclxms.gif
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Not only FL, BLM oso same problem. Half the sohigh driving this 2 models of manual ride will have problem with top gear.

Sympthoms: despite fully declutch, but unable to shift transmission lever to top right position(5th gear). Even engaged 5th gear, but after release clutch pedal can hear gear grinding noise.

Solutions:
1) Release clutch pedal, step harder 2nd time, engage gear lever kaw kaw sure can get 5th gear up

2) Clutch plate weaken, need to change 1. But same thing will happen over and over again every year or 2. Before your clutch finish, the spring ady weaken.

3) Change to GETREG tranny icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(zxvs @ Oct 29 2012, 12:48 PM)
so do u have any suggestion where i can buy the spare part and where i can sent mechanic shop to solve the problem?? how much then cost??
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Dude, car sooooo damn new where got so fast wear off clutch 1? Its the design problem lar.

1) Campor engine setup uses hydraulic clutch, with advantage of light weight pedal. However, its too light until sometimes after release clutch pedal after traffic light, your left foot subconciously stepping on clutch pedal. As a result, over a long period of semi-declutching, your clutch spring tend to weaken. Imagine u open up your mechincal pencil, u press the spring it will bounce back like usual. However, if u press it over a long period, the spring will be compressed and become less bouncy. Same thing apply to your clutch spring.

2) Check your clutch fluid/brake fluid whether its sufficient. If not, top up. This applicable to ngong hai like me that always like to wheel spin, hydraulic clutch tend to boil and leak from reservoir. Also send to SC ask them check your clutch pump/fluid reservoir got bubble/water or not. If got bubble, need to release air. If got water, need to change fluid.

3) FL/BLM mia achii pockai gearbox is well known to be slorppy & sucky. The more u miss shift 5 year, the gear head will be more likely wearing off thread faster. Finally 1 day even u engage the gear kaw kaw also car won't move, then its about time to change gear box liao, not clutch.

4) Real clutch wear off will be, after you engaged 1st gear, you release clutch pedal, gently step on gas pedal, then your car wouldn't pickup whereas RPM race up quickly. Meaning that the clutch rubber not cengkam with the flywheel anymore. Clutch plate/disc whole set should be RM280. Gear oil should be RM20/litre X 3. If flywheel need to skin, subjected to another RM35(depend on your mechanic how much they wanna slaughter you, some charge RM80). Labor cost for all should be RM80(some charge RM150).

5) Clutch is wear & tear item, supposedly not cover under warranty. If u send SC, make sure u ask for warranty, if not covered, pls ensure price is reasonable, otherwise u may get charged RM1000 for these cheapskate item.

6) GETRAG transmission for FLX, RM12k according to Plotong rolleyes.gif

I service bawah pokok, unless u oso so daring and stay around kajang/dengkil/banting area, otherwise unable to recommend you my magician whistling.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(zxvs @ Oct 29 2012, 12:48 PM)
so do u have any suggestion where i can buy the spare part and where i can sent mechanic shop to solve the problem?? how much then cost??
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Dude, car sooooo damn new where got so fast wear off clutch 1? Its the design problem lar.

1) Campor engine setup uses hydraulic clutch, with advantage of light weight pedal. However, its too light until sometimes after release clutch pedal after traffic light, your left foot subconciously stepping on clutch pedal. As a result, over a long period of semi-declutching, your clutch spring tend to weaken. Imagine u open up your mechincal pencil, u press the spring it will bounce back like usual. However, if u press it over a long period, the spring will be compressed and become less bouncy. Same thing apply to your clutch spring.

2) Check your clutch fluid/brake fluid whether its sufficient. If not, top up. This applicable to ngong hai like me that always like to wheel spin, hydraulic clutch tend to boil and leak from reservoir. Also send to SC ask them check your clutch pump/fluid reservoir got bubble/water or not. If got bubble, need to release air. If got water, need to change fluid.

3) FL/BLM mia achii pockai gearbox is well known to be slorppy & sucky. The more u miss shift 5 year, the gear head will be more likely wearing off thread faster. Finally 1 day even u engage the gear kaw kaw also car won't move, then its about time to change gear box liao, not clutch.

4) Real clutch wear off will be, after you engaged 1st gear, you release clutch pedal, gently step on gas pedal, then your car wouldn't pickup whereas RPM race up quickly. Meaning that the clutch rubber not cengkam with the flywheel anymore. Clutch plate/disc whole set should be RM280. Gear oil should be RM20/litre X 3. If flywheel need to skin, subjected to another RM35(depend on your mechanic how much they wanna slaughter you, some charge RM80). Labor cost for all should be RM80(some charge RM150).

5) Clutch is wear & tear item, supposedly not cover under warranty. If u send SC, make sure u ask for warranty, if not covered, pls ensure price is reasonable, otherwise u may get charged RM1000 for these cheapskate item.

6) GETRAG transmission for FLX, RM12k according to Plotong rolleyes.gif

I service bawah pokok, unless u oso so daring and stay around kajang/dengkil/banting area, otherwise unable to recommend you my magician whistling.gif

Anyway, I suggest u continue utilize ur current set of clutch until clutch slip(RPM go up but car don't go) then only consider to change clutch. Otherwise just send in for regular service will do. What's your ODO reading by the way?
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post Oct 29 2012, 05:03 PM

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Why SAGA instead of SAVVY

1) GaGa can put 56 durians at the boot, Gabby can put maximum 20 oni. Size bigger 10 oso got problem. GaGa win.

2) GaGa & Gabby use identical chassis setup, however torsion beam end brake hub setup different. GaGa more straight, on straight road tire surface hold the road tightly, very suitable for high speed cruising. Gabby is more open camber, suitable for high speed cornering. At high speed corner, outterwheel will have more tire surface contact to keep vehicle traction to maximum. The thing is, from point A to point B when u taking a 10 minutes drive, how much time you're in corner? Probably less than 2 minutes in total. GaGa win.

3) Open camber meaning tire wear more severe on the inner tire. GaGa minimal open chamber to ensure tire wear is even, whereas Gabby was set to maximum cornering pleasure. GaGa win.

4) GaGa came with standard Clarion hai powah CD player, so as Gabby. GaGa is single DIN with a small paper tray, Gabby is double DIN no paper tray. Head unit so big for what? Rather have a storage space. GaGa win.

5) GaGa has an accessories power socket, so as Gabby. GaGa's socket located at the cup holder, whereas Gabby's beside the shift lever console. In return, Gabby has a huge ashtray, GaGa doesn't. Smoke so much die faster. GaGa win.

6) GaGa BLM/FLX aircon blower compartment can accomodate up to 2x paper filter to maximize filtration, whereas Gabby/FL can only accommodate 1 paper filter bundle with original pollen filter. GaGa aint win all, but Gabby sure lose.

7) Campor engine in GaGa produce 94bhp on paper, whereas Gabby's D4F engine only produce 74bhp on paper. In terms of pickup, acceleration, top speed, overall performance... GaGa win. Despite Gabby fuel consuption slightly better than GaGa, later version of CVT actually produce better FC as continuous/infinite transmission ratio helps to smoothen torque distribution, as a result FC wise almost similar to Gabby. Extra 20hp, similar FC. GaGa still win.

8) Gabby was designed to very low coefficient drag(wind resistance). The toilet bowl looked alike clam shell bonet was made to cut through front wind drag, channel wind through the cutting edge side mirror, leading to window spoiler(rear window higher than front), almost perfect for high speed cruising with minimal wind resistance. In order to achieve all that, the car wa designed to looked like a toilet bowl, the thing is how often do we travel 140kmh & above(provided latest hot topic regarding AES)? GaGa looks much better than toilet bowl. GaGa win.

9) GaGa wheel arch can only accommodate up to 195/50R15. Despite Gabby came with standard 15" wheels, but tire profile was 175/50R15, anything above 175/50 will have sagat issue doh.gif I'm currently using 185/60R14, going over speed bump sagat, full turn left/right sagat, kena pothole sagat, full passenger sagat, lean on the car also sagat doh.gif GaGa win.

10) 2008 GaGa BLM used car value RM24k, 2008 Gabby used car value 18k doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif GaGa win!!!

However, despite GaGa won all that, but I'm stuck with Gabby as my daily ride. Reason being, my GaGa doesn't have CVT. My GaGa is too pretty to go into construction site. Love them both, but GaGa still win my heart wub.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 29 2012, 05:30 PM)
should we change brake fluid? some guy @ BLM Club FB said no need. i don't trust his statement.
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Brakefluid tend to absorb moist, and if water in oil, when high heat generated, water become vapor, then you'll have bubble in your brake line. As a result, you'll experience crab brakes. Siow siow sometimes can brake sometimes kenot. Extra moist may also rust your ABS(only if you have one), and also component in the brakefluid distributor/caliper/drum brake. V12 is right, for regular driver 2 years once as a precaution practice. Also check whether the fluid color turn dark as it might accidently channel back brake dust into the brake line(which is highly unlikely, most of the time it was cause by the moist and engine bay dust). I used to do it once a year on my Iswaga to ensure my braking system is running optimal nod.gif

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post Oct 29 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Oct 29 2012, 08:49 PM)
No wonder YAB hab VTEC in his Gaga icon_idea.gif
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Its powered by VTEC for long time ady whistling.gif

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Aircon Cabin Filter Bulk Closed
Those who haven't make payment & confirm order on 23rd October 2012 I'm sorry to have left you out and proceed to order to be fair to others

There is 2 type of blower casing designed in BLM/FL/FLX.

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This type of pollen filter, the casing door lock situated at the left side. To install paper cabin filter, you'll have to take out the pollen filter, plot the paper filter inside the pollen filter before slot them back. You can't use 2x paper filter.

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If you have this type of pollen filter, the casing door lock situated at the right side. To install paper cabin filter, you'll have to take out the pollen filter, slot the paper cabin filter into the casing, it will fit in nicely. Then you put back the pollen filter ON TOP of the paper filter before you close your casing door.

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