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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V33, The People's Car

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post Oct 18 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 18 2012, 11:07 AM)
How to destroy your Gaga and void your warranty

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2552740
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(tiensong @ Oct 18 2012, 10:47 AM)
haha....because envy myvi mah...
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Myvi does have a nicer looking dashboard and meter cluster (Optitron!!), Saga's dashboard is more utilitarian and simple. But I truly deeply hate the sohigh auto gearshift lever on the center console. They think this car is a MPV doh.gif

Touchscreen HU is nice to have but like what r3apers said, is a thief magnet. I plug my phone to the aux port and use it as GPS, media player, phone (duh), and OBD2 reader. And when I get out of the car I take my phone with me. Heck I can even do video calls with my phone plugged to the AUX, can HU do that?

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post Oct 18 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 18 2012, 11:08 AM)
1st thing is, the IAFM+ engine on the Preve maybe tuned differently. Lower fuel consumption possibly means less power.

2nd thing, NEVER trust the FC figures from the manufacturer.
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i see..but if you say less power on the preve, the spec shows the same hp and nm which is 108 hp and 150 nm for both preve and saga se.

what i'm surprise is the huge difference in fuel consumption for both the preve and saga se.

i'm expecting the saga to have a better fc as its much lighther..but its not.

anyway like you mention..maybe we should not trust fully the fc figures from the manufacturer..

thanks for the explanation..
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(J Camp @ Oct 18 2012, 11:23 AM)
i see..but if you say less power on the preve, the spec shows the same hp and nm which is 108 hp and 150 nm for both preve and saga se.

what i'm surprise is the huge difference in fuel consumption for both the preve and saga se.

i'm expecting the saga to have a better fc as its much lighther..but its not.

anyway like you mention..maybe we should not trust fully the fc figures from the manufacturer..

thanks for the explanation..
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due to ECU tuning different~!
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:24 PM)
due to ECU tuning different~!
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mine tuned tommy makinen style.
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 18 2012, 11:26 AM)
mine tuned tommy makinen style.
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mana ada... ur car also not WRC type... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(J Camp @ Oct 18 2012, 11:23 AM)
i see..but if you say less power on the preve, the spec shows the same hp and nm which is 108 hp and 150 nm for both preve and saga se.

what i'm surprise is the huge difference in fuel consumption for both the preve and saga se.

i'm expecting the saga to have a better fc as its much lighther..but its not.

anyway like you mention..maybe we should not trust fully the fc figures from the manufacturer..

thanks for the explanation..
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Don't just focus on the max HP and torque figures. They may be the same but the torque curve may be different. For example, FLX have tonnes of torque at low end RPM which is nice for city drive, but Preve has less torque on the low end so it saves fuel, but suffers on city driving (JUST AN EXAMPLE, NOT NECESSARILY TRUE).

Maybe mat79 can shed some light on this.

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post Oct 18 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:28 PM)
mana ada... ur car also not WRC type...  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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i didn't say my car is WRC spec.. i imagine driving one because my daily route is uneven one.
unker reapers u don't kacau my imagination boleh tak?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 18 2012, 11:32 AM)
i didn't say my car is WRC spec.. i imagine driving one because my daily route is uneven one.
unker reapers u don't kacau my imagination boleh tak?
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u mana drive off road ler.... if u got drive off road thn i wont kacau ur imagination...
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:33 PM)
u mana drive off road ler.... if u got drive off road thn i wont kacau ur imagination...
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special stage ma.
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 18 2012, 11:14 AM)
Myvi does have a nicer looking dashboard and meter cluster (Optitron!!), Saga's dashboard is more utilitarian and simple. But I truly deeply hate the sohigh auto gearshift lever on the center console. They think this car is a MPV  doh.gif

Touchscreen HU is nice to have but like what r3apers said, is a thief magnet. I plug my phone to the aux port and use it as GPS, media player, phone (duh), and OBD2 reader. And when I get out of the car I take my phone with me. Heck I can even do video calls with my phone plugged to the AUX, can HU do that?
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GOOD explanation....i love it~


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:35 ampreve non turbo how much?

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post Oct 18 2012, 11:37 AM

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tiensiong, please read the review on page one.

Review and Comparison
If you are new in buying and selecting a car between myvi and BLM,
kindly read the nice info given by our CyberKewl ( a driver and owner for both myvi and BLM)
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 18 2012, 11:34 AM)
special stage ma.
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special stage pulak...

thn my car already WRC lo~!!
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 18 2012, 11:37 AM)
tiensiong, please read the review on page one.

Review and Comparison
If you are new in buying and selecting a car between myvi and BLM,
kindly read the nice info given by our CyberKewl ( a driver and owner for both myvi and BLM)
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:37 PM)
special stage pulak...

thn my car already WRC lo~!!
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me Rally of Keramat Wangsa Maju.
u join Rally of PJ.
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(tiensong @ Oct 18 2012, 11:34 AM)
preve non turbo how much?
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Manual RM60k, CVT RM63k

Ask for year end discount.
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 18 2012, 11:37 AM)
tiensiong, please read the review on page one.

Review and Comparison
If you are new in buying and selecting a car between myvi and BLM,
kindly read the nice info given by our CyberKewl ( a driver and owner for both myvi and BLM)
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To be honest, that review already N years ago, that one is 1st batch Saga VS 2005 Myvi...now both of it already facelift for few times adi, i don think those handling/confort/power review is still valid except the aircon, cabin space and durian boot.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Oct 18 2012, 11:39 AM)
me Rally of Keramat Wangsa Maju.
u join Rally of PJ.
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You rally masuk gaung ade la.
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Oct 18 2012, 12:37 PM)
special stage pulak...

thn my car already WRC lo~!!
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everytime u wanna start going, u have u yell, 3,2,1.. Go!
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 18 2012, 11:40 AM)
To be honest, that review already N years ago, that one is 1st batch Saga VS 2005 Myvi...now both of it already facelift for few times adi, i don think those handling/confort/power review is still valid except the aircon, cabin space and durian boot.
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yes...i also agree with you....any new review about Saga FLX SE 1.6 vs MYVI SE 1.5??


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