ended up rewatching a few favourite episodes of top gear..
found this to be highly relevant for dares
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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V33, The People's Car
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Oct 21 2012, 01:15 PM
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too lazy to do my works..
ended up rewatching a few favourite episodes of top gear.. found this to be highly relevant for dares » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 21 2012, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Oct 21 2012, 01:15 PM) too lazy to do my works.. Yep, this video helped seal the deal for me. Mainly because it showed that I can fit smoke grenades on the cupholder, very important in my line of work ended up rewatching a few favourite episodes of top gear.. found this to be highly relevant for dares » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 21 2012, 01:27 PM
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Oct 21 2012, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 21 2012, 09:39 AM) oh btw... any idea if saga blm can use the obd2 reader ? really need that to monitor my car... Ur blm using siemens 16 bit ems 700 which is load base, while siemens 16 bit ems2101 in fiesta is torque based if not mistaken. While flx conti/siemen 32bit easyu ecu torque based. Prtn try to gauge how much performance of 32bit ecu by using same hardware differ in persona elegance(iafm 4 at combo,previous persona still the same combo but 16bit ecu). Yup, it has differences, but not much to be appreciated by users. But by changing hardware incomplement with new ems, it thus give diff outcome interm of drivebility(performance). Try to compare with persona elegance and persona 4at, monitor how the gear change and power delivery. if not, blm 4at with flx 1.3 in sat mode. Any donor? :-). |
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Oct 21 2012, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Oct 21 2012, 01:34 PM) ha..ha..dont be confius,read carefully. Thanks yab david to clarify it in easy way to understand. Sorry for my bad on writing, not really good in explaining i think :-). hmm... sorry that i am noob here... does that mean that even i got the obd2 reader i also cant get the same reading like what the flx shows ? cause i see u said that the difference of the ecu which is load base and torque base... lols... cant really brain stuff now...Ur blm using siemens 16 bit ems 700 which is load base, while siemens 16 bit ems2101 in fiesta is torque based if not mistaken. While flx conti/siemen 32bit easyu ecu torque based. Prtn try to gauge how much performance of 32bit ecu by using same hardware differ in persona elegance(iafm 4 at combo,previous persona still the same combo but 16bit ecu). Yup, it has differences, but not much to be appreciated by users. But by changing hardware incomplement with new ems, it thus give diff outcome interm of drivebility(performance). Try to compare with persona elegance and persona 4at, monitor how the gear change and power delivery. if not, blm 4at with flx 1.3 in sat mode. Any donor? :-). |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:11 PM
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2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks |
QUOTE(dares @ Oct 21 2012, 01:25 PM) Yep, this video helped seal the deal for me. Mainly because it showed that I can fit smoke grenades on the cupholder, very important in my line of work borrow me ur car. i want ry do that handbrake turn at Basement 3 at berjaya Times Square. PLEASEEEEE Added on October 21, 2012, 2:12 pmBTW, anyone know apa software good for video cutting? I wan cut video oni. Nuub here Added on October 21, 2012, 2:15 pmNvmd... found one..... This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Oct 21 2012, 02:15 PM |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:16 PM
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ooo since sifu mat79 is here, would it be a good idea to chuck in a supercharger or turbocharger into a BLM in order to achieve better low end torque like how Preve CFE has a turbo?
What are the pros and cons you foresee? Which would be the preferred choice, supercharger or turbocharger? |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 21 2012, 01:38 PM) hmm... sorry that i am noob here... does that mean that even i got the obd2 reader i also cant get the same reading like what the flx shows ? cause i see u said that the difference of the ecu which is load base and torque base... lols... cant really brain stuff now... The main problem is the protocol, IINM. Thats why the OBD2 scanner cannot read BLM mia ECU. |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:25 PM
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Oct 21 2012, 02:25 PM
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Oct 21 2012, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 21 2012, 02:16 PM) ooo since sifu mat79 is here, would it be a good idea to chuck in a supercharger or turbocharger into a BLM in order to achieve better low end torque like how Preve CFE has a turbo? Bro, I know you can't get away from forced induction. Lai lai, let's continue our plan What are the pros and cons you foresee? Which would be the preferred choice, supercharger or turbocharger? I have the price range for supercharger and turbocharger. This post has been edited by mengsuan: Oct 21 2012, 02:26 PM |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:26 PM
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Oct 21 2012, 02:27 PM
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two mods on forced induction fetish
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Oct 21 2012, 02:28 PM
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Oct 21 2012, 02:42 PM
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dares..
y u no take the rubbish piktar of your rubbish gaga's rubbish t10 led switched on with your rubbish gaga headlights on? me wanna see how the rubbish effect on my rubbish gaga as well |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Oct 21 2012, 01:38 PM) hmm... sorry that i am noob here... does that mean that even i got the obd2 reader i also cant get the same reading like what the flx shows ? cause i see u said that the difference of the ecu which is load base and torque base... lols... cant really brain stuff now... Just because there's no software to decode the BLM/FL ECU. To conclude, regardless load base or torque base, even if you have the OBD2 donggle + preinstalled software on your iFong, you're not getting any display on your fong because the data feed in from the donggle to your fong, your fong software unable to understand it. It's not that the reading same or not, it's can not understand. Software incompatible yo! FYI, I just had my ECU restored last week when I balik kampong Whilst I was hand itching wanted to break in the BIOS2 to read data inside, the good old "CLICK YES" syndrome kicked in. I did not read what's the pop up on the screen, I clicked "PROCEED" instead of "BACK". So, I had my entire BIOS1 wiped out, restored with BIOS2 total factory settings |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:47 PM
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Piggyback the ECU or change to standalone
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Oct 21 2012, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Oct 21 2012, 02:42 PM) dares.. I took already, but it was daytime so can't see the T10 light. I'm waiting for chance to take another shot at nighte coz not alwaz convenient.y u no take the rubbish piktar of your rubbish gaga's rubbish t10 led switched on with your rubbish gaga headlights on? me wanna see how the rubbish effect on my rubbish gaga as well |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:50 PM
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Oct 21 2012, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 21 2012, 02:43 PM) Just because there's no software to decode the BLM/FL ECU. To conclude, regardless load base or torque base, even if you have the OBD2 donggle + preinstalled software on your iFong, you're not getting any display on your fong because the data feed in from the donggle to your fong, your fong software unable to understand it. It's not that the reading same or not, it's can not understand. Software incompatible yo! Sometimes the OBD2 scanner "dongle" also makes a difference. The first scanner mengsuan gave me would not work, only the second one will work. This is on the same software in the same Samsung phone.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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