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post Oct 14 2012, 04:46 PM, updated 14y ago

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Blue finally release the MP table:

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 14 2012, 04:46 PM)
Blue finally release the MP table:

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MP8 could be the sweetest spot for our current build.

Any idea the release date of patch 105?

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post Oct 14 2012, 06:16 PM

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looks like i'll be sitting around mp4-5 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 14 2012, 05:46 PM)
Blue finally release the MP table:

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Cow i was tested mp 5,6 n 8 ,u had nice gear of ur monk u must go for try it ....

Well i was go mp 5 tested same v 1.0.4 inferno no different, start in mp6 level have abit hard means physical dmg will be increase .

mp5 below like hell mode u can imagine it...

mp 8 level above, the normal monster or creep physical dmg more increase i can say not easy... my barb had 7.4k armor 890-1k AR all buff, when i ww spinning surrounding group monster i can down suddenly n any time....


talk about loot mp i prefer start mp 8-10level will loot well. Means even rare item u loot some gear can replace ur gear.. u can imagine tat, no need talk about legend or set...


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post Oct 14 2012, 06:38 PM

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what is bonus item ?
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post Oct 14 2012, 06:42 PM

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This tricky. MP8 looks very tempting but how is the farming efficiency gonna be there? Will it take too long to down an elite pack?
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every mp level framing same, my barb always active WOTB to atk elite or mob, my barb has 108K dps WOTB active... killed elite take 4 or 5min in mp 8 level no joke...
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So i guess is gonna be quite a bit of kitting for demon hunters.. Unless i can spam gloom for 3mins non stop. Haha
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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 14 2012, 07:38 PM)
what is bonus item ?
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Bonus item or benefit? If going high mp level ur mf n gf will increase on top cowithgun was show it ..

let say now my base barb had 87%mf when i go mp 8 level i will 287%mf not yet nv, so the chance loot is better then low mp level...
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i think bonus item is the drop rate for hellfire ring mats?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 14 2012, 08:05 PM)
So i guess is gonna be quite a bit of kitting for demon hunters.. Unless i can spam gloom for 3mins non stop. Haha
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Dont worry bro u r DH depends wht style u ply, if DH tanker sure u can make it by solo, if shooter DH so must going co-op v ur team, depends ur fren have teamwork onot, cos high mp level if going co-op must talk about teamwork not talk about urself have op gear go as u like dint following team, if no teamwork sure all down.... high mp level not like now v 1.0.4 inferno u go for co-op but i can go my own way to kill...
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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 14 2012, 07:23 PM)
Dont worry bro u r DH depends wht style u ply, if DH tanker sure u can make it by solo, if shooter DH so must going co-op v ur team, depends ur fren have teamwork onot, cos high mp level if going co-op must talk about teamwork not talk about urself have op gear go as u like dint following team, if no teamwork sure all down.... high mp level not like now v 1.0.4 inferno u go for co-op but i can go my own way to kill...
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I hear you there but i don't think co-op is going to be the way to go. Correct me if i'm wrong, with co-op, the monster's health is going to be way more than the numbers shown in the picture right?

If that's true, i think co-op is just going to slow certain people down because the group DPS won't be enough to cover that additional monster health.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 14 2012, 08:57 PM)
I hear you there but i don't think co-op is going to be the way to go. Correct me if i'm wrong, with co-op, the monster's health is going to be way more than the numbers shown in the picture right?

If that's true, i think co-op is just going to slow certain people down because the group DPS won't be enough to cover that additional monster health.
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U have ur right way n different ply position thinking, i cant say u r wrong they, yes the number health from monster more extra but same, if u co-op similar High dps or op gear atk almost the same ,means down one elite from mp8 level also need4-5 min ....but benefit is easy get nv compare by solo....
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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 14 2012, 07:05 PM)
So i guess is gonna be quite a bit of kitting for demon hunters.. Unless i can spam gloom for 3mins non stop. Haha
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I can spam gloom whole day if my Hand no tired.. Hehe
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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 14 2012, 07:57 PM)
I hear you there but i don't think co-op is going to be the way to go. Correct me if i'm wrong, with co-op, the monster's health is going to be way more than the numbers shown in the picture right?

If that's true, i think co-op is just going to slow certain people down because the group DPS won't be enough to cover that additional monster health.
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I do think co-op is the way to go for MP8 and above. In 1.05:

- Additional health per monster in multiplayer games has been reduced from 75% to 70%

Assuming 4 players, total reduction is 120%. laugh.gif Moreover, different class type can benefit from multiple buff. As a monk, I really like Barbarian in my party.


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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 14 2012, 06:16 PM)
looks like i'll be sitting around mp4-5 laugh.gif
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You are not alone man. Seriously, I tested PTR since it's released. When solo, I farm fastest in MP4-5.

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post Oct 14 2012, 09:53 PM

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As a DH, i like monks too.

I dislike:

1. WW barbs
2. Mass crit wiz
3. WD that doesn't use that big doll he has.
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post Oct 14 2012, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 14 2012, 06:38 PM)
what is bonus item ?
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Bonus item will give you another chance to get a second item. This only apply to white mobs and even though in MP10 (100%), some more are not part of this design and you may not get additional loot.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6794983614#7

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Bonus item : the bonus drop applies to Normal monsters only. We wanted Monster Power to provide players with extra loot rolls, and (since Champions and Rares are already guaranteed to drop multiple items) Normal monsters seemed like the best place for us to add that mechanic in., thanks for the link
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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 14 2012, 10:01 PM)
Bonus item :  the bonus drop applies to Normal monsters only. We wanted Monster Power to provide players with extra loot rolls, and (since Champions and Rares are already guaranteed to drop multiple items) Normal monsters seemed like the best place for us to add that mechanic in., thanks for the link
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Means better loot ?
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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Oct 14 2012, 10:02 PM)
Means better loot ?
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Mean... you got another chance... to get good item... sweat.gif
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post Oct 15 2012, 11:12 AM

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Just in case if anyone miss this:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7540457/Mo...lory-10_11_2012

Item level drop rate for MP1 and above is identical with the current Act 3.

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post Oct 15 2012, 11:16 AM

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Yeah saw that yesterday and realize i'll just farm act 1.
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but then where else got high concentration of mobs as compare to the keep level 2?
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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Oct 14 2012, 11:02 PM)
Means better loot ?
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Means IK chest easy loot every way haha......
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 15 2012, 11:40 AM)
but then where else got high concentration of mobs as compare to the keep level 2?
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True to that. Fields of Slaughter and Bridge? I like those areas more than keep.
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I scarriest FoS and Bridge, Battlefield also

I dislike x 99999 Winged Molok

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post Oct 15 2012, 12:13 PM

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i have been farming Act3 since 1.04... so, i really want to switch a little. i miss Butcher, I miss Lacuni...
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post Oct 15 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Oct 15 2012, 12:06 PM)
I scarriest FoS and Bridge, Battlefield also

I dislike x 99999 Winged Molok

the fireball is pain sweat.gif
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no worries brah! when you're with me, you will enter the matrix (slow time - stretch time rune skill). Everybody in public games adore me for it. Mobs with electrified ability? beech pls, mobsters.

Though arcane and fire chains are still annoying as they are.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Oct 15 2012, 12:29 PM)
no worries brah! when you're with me, you will enter the matrix (slow time - stretch time rune skill). Everybody in public games adore me for it. Mobs with electrified ability? beech pls, mobsters.

Though arcane and fire chains are still annoying as they are.
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I used to use Slow Time also, but I prefer Archon with Laserrrr Attack, seems easy to kill mobbies
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trying MP 10 and able to survive just take sometimes to kill elite...
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post Oct 15 2012, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 15 2012, 11:12 AM)
Just in case if anyone miss this:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7540457/Mo...lory-10_11_2012

Item level drop rate for MP1 and above is identical with the current Act 3.

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thinking of farming act 1 then. because less dmg spikes and stupid shelled monsters/succubus/phase beats doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

still the same 2 boss warden > butcher vs cydea/azmodan (which arguably have longer fight time if its a linear mp % based scaling)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 15 2012, 06:18 PM)
thinking of farming act 1 then. because less dmg spikes and stupid shelled monsters/succubus/phase beats  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

still the same 2 boss warden > butcher vs cydea/azmodan (which arguably have longer fight time if its a linear mp % based scaling)
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I agree with you. Phase beasts plus lags = bye bye. And the succubus is annoying.

But Azmodan is so easy is embarrassing.

Haven't been to act 1 for ages, the downside i believe is monster density. Act 2 however has nice monster density at desolate sands. Vault of the Assassin especially.

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I think i will be around MP7 or MP8

Better to go Act1 with MP10? Since Act1 monsters are slower and seems to be easier
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but the problem is when 1.0.5 is coming
i have only made very little money on RMAH these few days T_T
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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 15 2012, 06:32 PM)
I agree with you. Phase beasts plus lags = bye bye. And the succubus is annoying.

But Azmodan is so easy is embarrassing.

Haven't been to act 1 for ages, the downside i believe is monster density. Act 2 however has nice monster density at desolate sands. Vault of the Assassin especially.
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warden (lol 1 man elite with desecration)/butcher is even b****ing easy

and hey, no need to get random bloodstar and have armor stripped to half just to have some phase beast elite 1-3 shotting you. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 15 2012, 06:59 PM)
warden (lol 1 man elite with desecration)/butcher is even b****ing easy

and hey, no need to get random bloodstar and have armor stripped to half just to have some phase beast elite 1-3 shotting you.  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I totally forgot about the warden!

Couldn't agree more. Well i'm a DH and survivability is going to be main concern here. i guess we r back to act 1.

SK, Huge spider, Warden and Butcher. not bad.
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act 1 mp10 can consider biggrin.gif normally skeleton and zombie~
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no phasebeast, no succubus, no blood clan and no soul ripper...welcome back act 1
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Anyone getting shitty drops due to the upcoming patch? pretty sure blizzard is behind this.
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post Oct 16 2012, 06:05 PM

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Will focus mp 10 act one after patch.. But need collect key items 1st for hellfire ring.


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Anyone getting shitty drops due to the upcoming patch? pretty sure blizzard is behind this.
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Me always face shit drop from 15/5 until today!!! Never got good things!!!!!

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i'm pretty sure is Blizzard doing this. I have been having crap for the past 2 days

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post Oct 17 2012, 09:07 AM

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Tried MP5 just now. Normal mob HP 400k so no longer can one-shot them unless super critical. Elites with Extra health affix HP 13.5mil sweat.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 09:27 AM

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MP5 Act 3, hard man...
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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Oct 17 2012, 09:27 AM)
MP5 Act 3, hard man...
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As for me, MP10 Act3 is hard however MP8 is doable.

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post Oct 17 2012, 09:49 AM

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mp5 is like inferno last time?

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 17 2012, 09:41 AM)
As for me, MP10 Act3 is hard however MP8 is doable.
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it's doable... but hard... compare to 1.04 Act3... sad.gif
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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Oct 17 2012, 09:51 AM)
it's doable... but hard... compare to 1.04 Act3... sad.gif
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Oh! my doable means is like normal (or as usual) only. hehehe.

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Oh! my doable means is like normal (or as usual) only. hehehe.
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mean ur gear can cope with it lo... sad.gif

we poorfags cannot... LOL
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i'm having a hard time even with MP4..have to kite like mad sad.gif

when it comes to reflect damage even worse hahaha
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post Oct 17 2012, 10:53 AM

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Anyone tried he infernal machine bosses yet?

Would like to know how difficult it is compare those bosses with elites in same MP, so i wont end up wasting my key later
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lol infernal bosses need to use key to craft
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QUOTE(tk1025 @ Oct 17 2012, 10:53 AM)
Anyone tried he infernal machine bosses yet?

Would like to know how difficult it is compare those bosses with elites in same MP, so i wont end up wasting my key later
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Is it difficult to get those keys? hmm.gif
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I got 3 keys with
mp8 act 1
mp7 act 2
mp7 act 3
mp7 act 4 (currently working with it now)
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hi all,

i have not logged in for 1 months now.. can my gear farm act 3 inferno MP 8-10?

No chance to login now due to work.. pls comment biggrin.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Corrosi...72/hero/4261989
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Got infernal machine yeah ~!!
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Got infernal machine yeah ~!!
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how long does it take?
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how long does it take?
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 17 2012, 02:16 PM)
MP 8 - ACT1
MP 7 - ACT2
MP 7 - ACT3
MP 7 - ACT4

Drop everytime I killed them... consider lucky
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 17 2012, 11:39 AM)
Is it difficult to get those keys?  hmm.gif
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Not so easy for me bcos it takes me half an hour to complete a game with 5stack nv + keywarden at mp3 (low chance on keydrop), so i treasure my key very much sad.gif

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act 3 easiest... I think because most of us so familiar with the map and mob types d.. lol
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Anyone have any idea how the new MF% stacks?

I was 399% MF for 1.0.4

Farming in MP3 now, according to chart it should be 75% MF extra?

Strangely, my MF is at 450% maxed.

Any ideas?
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QUOTE(kayzie @ Oct 18 2012, 12:08 PM)
Anyone have any idea how the new MF% stacks?

I was 399% MF for 1.0.4

Farming in MP3 now, according to chart it should be 75% MF extra?

Strangely, my MF is at 450% maxed.

Any ideas?
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Correct ...max MF on player 300% + 5NV 75% + MP3 (3x25% =75%) bring you a total of 450%.

Your max MF is now at300%..follower will not add to it anymore.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 18 2012, 12:25 PM)
Correct ...max MF on player 300% + 5NV 75% + MP3 (3x25% =75%) bring you a total of 450%.

Your max MF is now at300%..follower will not add to it anymore.
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No wonder... thanks for the quick response. I was calculating and thought they might nerf follower's MF, turn out that I was right! smile.gif
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QUOTE(kayzie @ Oct 18 2012, 12:08 PM)
Anyone have any idea how the new MF% stacks?

I was 399% MF for 1.0.4

Farming in MP3 now, according to chart it should be 75% MF extra?

Strangely, my MF is at 450% maxed.

Any ideas?
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it should capped at 450%


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 18 2012, 12:35 PM)
it should capped at 450%
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It depends on MP levels.

MF at MP10 should be 300 + 75 + 250 = 625%
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OH, but I am far from reaching MP10
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 18 2012, 02:06 PM)
OH, but I am far from reaching MP10
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your ToS sale should give you some boost in gear hehehe

i am tempted to farm in MP2, coz I can farm 100% faster compare to MP5.

MP2: 60 minutes
MP5: 112 minutes!!!

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 18 2012, 08:26 PM)
your ToS sale should give you some boost in gear hehehe

i am tempted to farm in MP2, coz I can farm 100% faster compare to MP5.

MP2: 60 minutes
MP5: 112 minutes!!!

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Why you farm mp5? You should go higher mp... tongue.gif

I decide to throw in a large sum to upgrade! Finger crossed my bid goes through when it mature...

Next is the weapon. Damn hard to find one suitable

 

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