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 Wizard Discussion v2, Come, all ye arcanists

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SUS2890
post Apr 26 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 26 2013, 10:32 AM)
I haven't been crafting amulets but have been saving up on brim stones.

I got two trifecta gloves now. =.=" after dunno how many tries. Now I need tears to craft  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

Time to pick up rubbish rares and salvage.
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I crafted a pretty nice cc n chd n best part got AR. I guess archon gloves or save for my WD.

Amulets I crafted some nice ones but no trifecta la. Three pretty ok ones but as usual archon or for WD. But archon I think tal amulet with average damage best la
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post Apr 26 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Apr 26 2013, 10:29 AM)
bro moba if u just wan test, i got one almost the same spec, just no avg dmg smile.gif
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Archon with average damage is GODLIKE but moba you can try no average damage because that tal average damage also very low.

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SUS2890
post Apr 26 2013, 08:03 PM

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1.5b wand listed at 150m. Sniped it at 1d11h biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Apr 29 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 29 2013, 10:55 AM)
I wanted to start a character in EU server but my account kena lock for suspicious login LOL!
hahahahahaa
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come come.. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 29 2013, 03:13 PM)
I plan to try it out soon. EU server...i dunno if my account will kena lock again =.=" I didnt proceed yesterday but had to reset password.

bro 2890, the prices for items over there not as mad as US server?
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why would your acc get locked? global play is allowed and I sometimes go over US server to look around and I never get locked/ban

prices? hmmm... can't really answer that cuz I got no idea on US prices. Come over and have a look.
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post Apr 29 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 29 2013, 04:53 PM)
Semalam ada jatuh orb with APOC =.=" too bad...purple color orb but not bad la. avg 400  tongue.gif
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eh! i found a purple orb too last night. LOL
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post Apr 29 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Apr 29 2013, 05:20 PM)
can double roll average damage if no apoc i think
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post Apr 29 2013, 06:57 PM

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^

Get 30 APoC and u'll go mad with meteor. Downside is, meteor takes up a WW cast so it interrupts with your freezing to a certain extent.

but hey, my motto has always been kill them before they get nasty.
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post Apr 29 2013, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 29 2013, 07:32 PM)
they wont get nasty if you can freeze them often brows.gif
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i don't want just to freeze. I want to cut this mobs and melt them within like 20 seconds max.
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post Apr 29 2013, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 29 2013, 07:40 PM)
Btw, instead of storm armor, have you tried substitute it with bubble armor (20% extra damage) and pair this with Meteor?
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Nope. You tried?

But storm gives lots of Dps. And not enough fingers la I think
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post Apr 29 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 29 2013, 09:36 PM)
Nope, not yet but since MOBA, you and co. are our Saruman's benchmark, we are waiting for your feedback laugh.gif

If you ask me, based on my fingers aloha calculation, i think its going to be quite damaging (given if its 30 ApoC).

Fingers tired? Upgrade your dex! laugh.gif
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My wiz sucks. Trust me. Still tons of tweaking to do. You have way more experience than I do, should be listening to your advice.

QUOTE(Gecko @ Apr 29 2013, 09:49 PM)
Time Warp (20%) + Bone Chill (15%) + Cold Blooded (20%) + Conflagration (10%) = 65% xtra dmg taken by enemy
Few meteor spam will surely melt mobs fast but on the downside the freeze time will be less
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You need another wiz or this is suicide man.


QUOTE(peinsama @ Apr 29 2013, 09:58 PM)
Unless you have a wizard nearby to help you with the freeze...

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Yeah. Thing I dislike about wiz is u can't go all out DPS. And it seems there is no such things as too much AR.


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post Apr 30 2013, 04:31 AM

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Someone offered 3.5b for my amulet. I got it for 1b on the GAH and no one wanted it. Was on there for so many hours.

I guess you buy smth on GAH, then list it on diabloprogress. Some noob will offer you big money for it.
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post Apr 30 2013, 04:57 PM

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Go buy your archon rings ASAP !!!!!

Avg Dmg, CC and CHD rings are archon rings IMO. Go before the price skyrocket.

Tal amulet too within the above rolls.

QUICK !!!!
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post Apr 30 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 30 2013, 05:06 PM)
er reason for it to skyrocket even MORE? Tal Amulets are still out of reach. Pray to the Gods of RNG and hope for drop.
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I think tal amulets with say 6-7cc are still okay. The 10cc ones are insanely priced. Anyway i don't know how it is on the US but at least here average damage ones with 6-7cc are cheap. Basically, higher CC means higher price.

so just find one with high average damage because CC only inflates your DPS but average damage gives you solid damage.

Rare rings with average damage, CC and CHD should be cheap. I've seen some very good ones that are dirt cheap. People want trifecta so such rings are left out. And archon doesn't depend on AS so is a win win.

I only went for unity and wailing host because of the 8% elite i get from both rings.

Archon weapons might be the biggest problem at least here on the EU cuz some WDs are getting smart and starting to use black weapons with low APS. Some still use skorn but some use axe or spear which causes the price to rise.

Anyway, good luck and with patch 1.0.8 coming, archon will be a big hit i think.

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post May 1 2013, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ May 1 2013, 04:54 PM)
Wutt....how can your wiz sucks, man..
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1. not enough DPS
2. not enough mitigation

There you go.
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post May 2 2013, 03:21 AM

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DISINTEGRATE BUILD/SPEC (MINI ARCHON)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/11450608

Been trying out a disintegrate spec and so far pretty cool. Can channel without much problem and i only ran out of arcane power when up against 3 elite packs.

The stuff I bought to test this specs are:

1. Dark Mage Shade (-3 cost)
2. SoJ (-5 cost)

Well they are a few different combinations of gears.

1. Mempo + APoC Triumvirate + SoJ
2. Storm Crow with APoC + Triumvirate + SoJ
3. DMS + APoC Triumvirate + SoJ
4. DMS + Triumvirate + SoJ

The essential piece so far IMO is the SoJ unless you can further tweak the build but so far I've been unsuccessful to remove the SoJ

Best combination is No. 2 IMO cuz with a black weapon the 8% from storm crow > 9 AS and less AS is better with such channeling build. And APoC triumvirate is much more expensive and the average damage is lower as well.

Skills you can check my profile. There is one empty slot and i've used venow hydra cuz with a CM wiz is pretty good. Possible alternatives are Blizzard, Meteor, Arcane Orbit (looks very cool) or Arcane Torrent.

Another interesting spec is the one currently being worked on by metalfreak. The sleet storm build is pretty awesome. Black Ice is smth I'm currently looking at as well.

Anyway, let em know if u guys like it.
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post May 2 2013, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ May 2 2013, 11:47 AM)
Cool mayn, i seen this build on youtube by this fella named Archon somethang. Based on the current build in your profile, is the ApoC enough to counter the arcane used by Disintegrate? Another version i see, is substituting the hydra with Blizzard while glass cannon substituted by Temporal Flux
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Yeah the 10 APoC is enough. I can channel the beam non stop even on mobs with extra health affix. Yeah there is an empty slot currently and I chose venom hydra cuz i was running with a CM wiz. Temporal flux is good if u solo i think.

DS - crystal shell don't seem to be needed. I tried using duplicates. ACtually i think they are two empty skill slots now.

QUOTE(chitchat @ May 2 2013, 12:58 PM)
want to ask sifu here, the black weapon + triumvirate calculation is base on the weapon average dmg or the dps ?

which one should i buy ?

let say a 1100dps wand, 1.4as, lower avg dmg to spear
and 1100dps spear, 1.2as, higher avg dmg than wand
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Depends. If you wanna go archon build. AS is not important.

Triumvirate calculation is based on the weapon's damage range. The spear is better.


QUOTE(yuhhaur @ May 2 2013, 02:32 PM)
Can use Skorn in Archon?
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Yeah but you lose out on the awesome triumvirate offhand man.
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post May 2 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Davy123 @ May 2 2013, 02:20 PM)
^ aspd beats avrg dmg flat. In your case you get mor dps frm wand, after including the element bonus..do u want a full explanation? Will be very long..hehe
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I think the spear is better.

The AS only inflates the DPS but average damage is doesn't. Plus elemental damage benefits more from avg dmg.

wrong?
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post May 2 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ May 2 2013, 02:53 PM)
I see. Yeah, if there's another CM wizard, venom hydra is the shiznit then.

Hmm let me see, unless you can substitute your trivumrate which boost APoC, then you switch your stormcrow to mempo with CC which adds more DPS boost and EHP (assuming you put amethyst inside the socket)?

For the DS slot, not much can be said because i could also switch it to teleport. I guess that slot varies depending on your gameplay style. Even switching it to frost nova is also okay, i guess.
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I have an APoC triumvirate and I don't think is a good idea to run it with memPo.

My reasoning is 8% elemental damage is BETTER than 9% AS. Sure the paper DPS might be higher with the samurai helm but stacking elemental damage and average damage is the key to such builds IMO.

I tried:

1. MemPo + APoC Trium
2. Storm Crow + Trium

I think second combination better.
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post May 2 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(peinsama @ May 2 2013, 03:00 PM)
i see i see. how about storm crow + ApoC trium? Maybe the 2nd slot is applicable for the likes of blizzard or.........meteor? lol

but yeah, you may sacrifice the vit.
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don't think it will work because i think disintegrate have horrible proc rates. Have not tested yet but meteor + disintegrate doesn't really sync I think. And btw, I need 30 APoC in CM mode to spam meteor non stop so I don't think this weird build with 20 is gonna cut it.

I don't like Blizzard, I think is weak but right now I think black ice might be a good sync.

Actually metalfreak's sleet storm build is stronger but problem is melee range. Things get nasty

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