Anyone has a pic of Pat Lu?

I'd love to date a single mum, especially a rich single mum.

CELICZAIZPOWER, care to ask your gm fren

Its actually Toyota Celica is Powerful. 

I have the feeling that the actual culprit of all these raid is well plan by the GENNEVA directors them-self.
They knew they can't sustain anymore when they notice their continuation of new members are dropping.  And they only recently offer a new package of of higher interest/month and whoa-la raid came in . They might have been called up all their close politician dato's investor and shift the money elsewhere before it all started ! 

They are one hell of a smart team !!!

In order to make money you have to buy and sell at the right time. Genneva never made any money buying and selling gold- all their happy customers are the one making the money.
Also I I have a historical chart and go backwards in time I don't need to be a genius to make money. All this chart tells you is that gold prices went up a lot in the past - it does not tell you exactly how it will behave in the future. Of course if you have spare cash and don't need put food on the table and pay electricity bill you can buy gold and keep for a few years. Good chance (no guarantee) to make money but buy from Maybank or public bank or uob bank lah

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Added on October 12, 2012, 12:04 pm
It's the psychological aspect of this case which intrigues me. I must say I am learning a lot here about human behaviour

According to their CONsultant it is trade secret.

trololol. is gooding here.

V2 now?
damn i didnt know a so clear cut ponzi scam can have thread until version 2 now... hehehehe... this is legend...

I smell trolling

but no Zeti inside yr list, tats the problem..

i watched all the Genneva 'investor's' video interviewing by Utusan and 1 english media (forgot the name),it's very touching the story behind everyone of them,  i felt sympathy to them as they put all their savings and $$ into this Genneva. But the truth is, 24% annual return is too good to b truth and if it's truth, Warren Buffet is no longer need to look for his successor, Malaysia EPF can put all the fund into Genneva, i can quit my job liao.

they did not even know that they being troll by /k/ dupes.

Dear Editor,

I am responding to the writer's comment on "Gold raid long overdue"
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...15862&sec=focus

BNM did raid Genneva in the exact same location in 2009. What is the outcome? Why the delay in conviction, if any? BNM has now taken away a second mass of gold. Who is responsible to account for all this gold in custody? This gold rightly belong to unassigned purchasers, not the company.

The writer was clouded by his perception of the biz after spoken to by a rookie consultant. Apparently, his past experience in a financial institution dominated his thinking cap. Unfortunately, many are like him, are stifled by the past and refusing do some homework and probe further.

Let us use an analogy of a unique experience...child birth pain. Who do we seek answers from about this experience? A young unmarried girl, a grandma or a woman who had just delivered a baby? The answer is obvious. But unfortunately, some are stuck to "grandma" experiences in changing times. Instead of seeking answers, he chose to jumped to conclusion.

Similarly, the authorities raided this company, merely based on getting complaints. ...from whom?..not customers but potential "women who are going to deliver"! BNM is to protect customers', and perhaps public, interest. Is their action getting that effect? in fact through no fault of the company, BNM has inflicted the very pain it wants to avoid to over 60,000 customers and their families. It was an unjustified act based on unwarranted complaints from POTENTIAL BUYERS, it says! Why not conduct a random interview of buyers before this callous infliction on the innocents,

Genneva's biz model is a unique, legal biz transaction, perhaps it is beyond the comprehension of some. Which company wants to openly declare how profits are made. That's a closely guarded secret biz strategy. The company has explained that it is from margins and its gold holdings. If you can't figure out the mechanism, that's your limitation. I am prepared to share it, but privately. Meanwhile, Customers like me have enjoyed 32months of the Discretionary Hibah ( can be seen as discounts) without a qualm. The 'discount' payment is spread over a contracted period of time. Like all businesses., this payment is purely based on TRUST, and TRUST, Genneva has delivered, until this raid on 1 Oct 2012.

Genneva has a symbiotic relationship with customers. it cannot survive, like any other biz, without customers. The authority has perhaps unknowingly, severed that link by taking Genneva away, causing mounting hardship to Employees, consultants, purchasers and their dependents. Please avoid this and expediently work to clear whatever suspicion there is but source your answers from the " young mothers".

The authorities need to pursue diligently to regulate gold trading in order that the legitimate ones can thrive well for the benefit of the economy and its people.

Thank you,

Helen Ong

P.S. I sincerely hope my sharing is published so that criticisms are fairly leveled.

anyone wonder why the raid only happen now when BNM knew of this few years back and just close an eye ?

During that time, bank negara hasn't even listed Genneva in the blacklist. Those pro-genneva people has the advantage to call us lie --> "authority still allow us operate business why you all KPC ?"

Nowadays all the pro-genneva people don't dare to come in already. And only you guys come and join in a "sure-win" debate ?

Any latest news from bank negara?

Do bank negara will return those gold to investor?

My mom say bank negara won't unfreeze the gold back to buyer.

they need to protect the legal bank.

Pity those whim throw those life saving in this Ponzi scheme.

In this case,you can see Malaysia got a lot rich fags.
Aunts and uncle throw like 200-500k to them.

Gee..

How they got so much money..

Why not ? We can leave the bashing to ifourtos and whatman since they missed the last one.....