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gladfly
post Nov 28 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 28 2012, 11:54 AM)
k, but what has Starcraft got to do with D3 huh?
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Literal answer: Both made by Blizzard.

rest is I dunno..smile.gif
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 28 2012, 11:54 AM)
my opinion is based on coop games, about teamwork. how different classes play with each other. im not generalizing coop mindset into your solo conquest.
if you prefer solo, by all means go ahead. i did not announce d3 is meant to be played only by coop, hence my statement of 'we're looking from different perspective'

how shallow is that? you judge people so quickly, only what you see and think is right.
if you read carefully, i was explaining, not dictating. if you feel that my posts are too strong it affects how you would play your game please ignore them.

im sharing my views, not trying to prove otherwise when everyone tried to share something.
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Chill sister..

It just a game..

Sometimes its good to agree to disagree....smile.gif

Move along nothing to see..tongue.gif
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post Nov 28 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Nov 28 2012, 07:24 PM)
Worth the upgrade? going to cost 150M buyout though..
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IMHO Nope...not worth 150M for such puny upgrade
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post Nov 30 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(kkng77 @ Nov 30 2012, 10:06 AM)
Hi all, this is my build currently,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KitDee-1948/hero/5923257

kindly advise wat should i upgrade for next, thx.
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100k DPS unbuff???

Nice set up..good tanking monk. Dunno what you want to upgrade..more DPS..then I will advise of getting more CC. The Nats ring is pretty weak..low dex, no crit or average damage. Get one with average damage at least..as that will boost your DPS since your weapons are sub 1k.

Other than that, the gloves also can be upgraded...a trifecta will improve DPS. The Vile Ward can get better..as dex pretty low for that. Get 1 with 200 Dex, Some vit and single res..should be about 10M, then you can drop some AR and Vit from others and get CC/ Dex.

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post Nov 30 2012, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(yangkee @ Nov 30 2012, 04:39 PM)
I wonder what's your Elemental Resistance? Also, LS is better than LoH? How far have you gone with that character of yours? Can you farm in MP10?

This is my build, but i need to know what can i do to increase the damage?


Added on November 30, 2012, 4:46 pm

I wonder how you manage to increase your armor at the same time deal such a killer DPS, what about your Elemental Resists? I have about 846.

I need to increase my DMG, any ideas where i can invest on?
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Hi there..

I am sitting at 103k DPS unbuff with a WKL off hand, with 2.9 LS and 1.2k LoH, 35k Vit, 560 AR 5k Armor. I cant see your build..sad.gif and I dont know how to link my profile here..

Just a quick answer to your Q. LS is better than LoH once you reach end game. IMHO once you past 70k DPS unbuff treshold, LS will scale better compared with LoH. But if use FoT, LoH actually returns tremedous gains in life as FoT hits 3 times (2x, 2x and last hit) and procs 75% for first 4 hits and 35% on last hit. Hence eg if you have 1000 loH, you actually get 1.5k +1.5k + 350 =3.35k for one cycle of FoT. In comparison, assuming you deal 100k damage, with 3% LS, you gain 0.2x3%x100k =1.2k per hit (as Fot hit 2x), hence you can see the major difference once you reach high DPS. Plus LS will benefit from SW , where 40% damage dealt x 0.2x3% returns and AOE as well. That is why I chose to have both. LS and LoH. LPSS is also good but you need to stack it to 180 to replace either LS or LoH efficiently.

To answer you second question, I can farm with optimal and minimal deaths at MP7, max at MP9 solo..dont really go MP10 as it really slow and not efficient as 100k DPS is not enough, you probably need 150k DPS to farm MP10 efficiently. Its hard for me to upgrade as I want to keep my WKL which is only 930DPS, and I really hate using a EF. Also, cant really drop more AR as at 560..things do get hairy sometimes especially with molten+reflects+electricfied....

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post Nov 30 2012, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 30 2012, 06:19 PM)
Too low? Think can achieved by:

1) Tal Rasha's Relentless Pursuit (8% IAS) - < 1mil
2) Andariel's Visage (8% IAS + 4.5 CC) - < 1mil
3) Inna's Favor (8% holy damage) < 1mil
4) 1k weapon with socket *2 < 1mil
5. Glove with no vit, no resist but high dex, > 8 CC, plus the rest ~ 1mil

Do-able?
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Nope...I dont think so its possible... 10M maybe can 80k DPS unbuff

As you mentioned ...how to stack dex? 1,2 and 3 low dex..

You need to max dex from boots and gloves..which limits your gloves to NO CD/ASI if you chose CC,

Good luck in trying though...





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post Nov 30 2012, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 30 2012, 06:47 PM)
How about 5mil + whatever gear you already using?  brows.gif

I just check AH, I think it is DEFINITELY do-able.
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Ah..I thought you meant building from scratch...

5M with existing gear ...hmmmm interesting...I think its doable....smile.gif

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post Nov 30 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(mstmohdkut @ Nov 30 2012, 07:48 PM)
Guys need help upgrading my char  notworthy.gif  icon_question.gif

this is my profile 
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/MKRuleZ...9/hero/15562030

please list area which i should concentrate and which stat should i not be focusing on  icon_question.gif
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From what I see...your Dex is too low and Crit Damage is way low...less than 200%???

If I am you..will change the helm..get a Inna Radiance with Fire res...5.5% CC. Its cheap and good. Get an Inna Favour to make it a set for the 130 Dex bonus. Inna belt will boost your damage a lot..

Why you no use STI? Your armor is less than 3k? You cannot surive with that amount ...

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post Dec 3 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 3 2012, 03:08 PM)
Which MP you wanna farm? high DPS... 480 ar... low ias... can you farm well in mp8? (no, i can't farm in mp8!)

Consider changing rune from Ascension to something else if you have high LoH/LS which allow you to recover enough HP in 3 seconds.

Consider changing Crippling Wave to Deadly Reach+Foresight if you farm lower MP for more DPS.

Consider dual wield for faster IAS (dont put your awesome fist of fury in inventory, make good use of it!)
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I just chip in some ideas also.

One problem with 2H is spirit regen as you APS is too slow to regain spirit. Perhaps chose guiding path for the 35% extra regen.

Serenity - Ascension is best if you opt for Beacon of Yatar as 20% cooldown plus 1 sec addition menas a cycle is only 15 Sec. And the extra1 sec with 5.8% LS should be enough to cover the 6-7k life from peaceful response. So I differ with cow here on this.

I agree with cow that DR- foresight is a better choice compared with crippling wave.i.e maximizing bonus DPS.

DW is DW ..its up to your build style so I wont comment on that..if you feel 2H is fun..stick to it..smile.gif


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post Dec 3 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 3 2012, 04:20 PM)
Or just play using fists. Skorn looks wrong on a monk man. If Skorn users are just looking for paper DPS, why not use IK boulder breaker, 1.6k DPS. wink.gif
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Reason skorn is prefered choice is that they roll Dex...Boulder Breakers I dont think they roll high dex. Also, Skorn can roll up to 200 crit plus socket with Life steal.

Hence, when casting Sweeping Wind, the damage is snapshotted with all these attributes...hence the vortex will deal these damage at 45% and the cyclones at 20%.

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post Dec 3 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Dec 3 2012, 03:57 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/7865297

guys, need your opinion again, currently my monk stuck at 80K dps, need your advise to break the 100k dps barrier without decreasing my life. please ignore the mission 2 germs at my shenlong fist as my new barbie are using now.  biggrin.gif
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Your blackthorns..I dont understand why u chose belt and amulet. Most people will chose Surcoat (for the AR and vit) + Amulet. I would suggest change to Inna belt with 8% Holy damage(will boost your dps a lot) and Surcoat. Also, Amulet is weak. Try looking for a CC Amulet blackthorns.

For the Wailing Host, since you not getting the set, why not get a Unity for the Average damage + same stats (you can get 200 Dex roll from Unity for cheap..look for 160 Dex with socket). YOu will get a lot DPs from the Average damage eg 30-60 since your shenlongs are below 900. Also the Average damage will be boosted by Inna Belts by 8% as well...

But I dont think can get 100k form that alone...you probabaly really need to ditch the shenlongs and find 900+ with OS set to break 100k.

GL
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post Dec 3 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 04:36 PM)
Unity cheap?  hmm.gif
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Cheap...probably the best value for $$$ out there..got Average damage + High Dex + LoH+ CC+ Bonus against E all for 2M ...mana mau cari
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post Dec 3 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Dec 3 2012, 04:44 PM)
@gladfly, whats your IGN? Are you a monk too? Wanna take a peek at your build
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Lol..I dont know how to link my profile le..anyways I am not imba monk..only 102k DPS unbuff tongue.gif

@yauhaur...wah your unity rolled CD...best la....Unity with ASI/CD itu mahal..but those without is cheapo..lor....
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post Dec 3 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 04:46 PM)
compare skorn vs dual wield:
1.1k MH + CD + socket + LS (EF + 0.24 att spd yo)
1.1k OH + CD + socket + LS (sickle??)

Which is cheaper hmm.gif
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Wait...eg no 1 cannot be a EF..as EF only can roll OS+LS or OS+CD..cannot OS+LS+CD..tongue.gif

No 2 butcher sickle at 1.1k DPS..possible meh? of a ilevel 60? Impossibru....... but if got..its will cost 2B..lol

So..the answer will be skorn cheaper...smile.gif
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post Dec 3 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Bringitawn @ Dec 3 2012, 04:53 PM)
We are about the same dps. Just wanna see more builds and gears other monks use. I am still undecided what to do with my monk. My skorn drop price to 35 mil ady. Dunno what dual wielding weapons i can afford if i do decide to sell my skorn precious!
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Lol...I can say DW is the way forward. Why...well IMHO

1. Theoractically DH will yiled highest DPS as they can stack up to 400 CD, 22%IAS, 6% LS and 1.9k LoH, with 600 Dex (dunno correct or not this).

2. Inherent 15% bonus to ASI from DW

3. Higher speed means better Spirit management ...faster regen

4. Higher speed means better returns on LoH

5. DW you can drop to a palamonk when you meet nasty E. Swap a Stormshiled ..and your a tanky monk.

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post Dec 4 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 4 2012, 10:50 AM)
Wow... that was indeed a speedy run.
The perma freeze Wiz is really good at SB/Kulle fight.
The damn Kulle is always pain in the arse.
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Wa..2 mins...that goes to show the power of perma freeze.

Kulle is such a pain since he keeps teleport dissapear...and cast that damn slow bubble around him..pain for monks wihout any CC. Even with blind its hard to control that damn Kulle.

Other than that SB is zzzzzzzzzz......
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post Dec 4 2012, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 12:29 PM)
I will be trying the build as follows (for mp9 games tonight);-

Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion (feels quite weak when confronting OP elites w/o it)
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Retribution -Indignation or other rune (using Mantra of Conviction -Overawe currently)
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (did a better job than Blinding Flash -FitL)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
One with Everything (using Beacon of Ytar currently)
Seize the Initiative
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Wow..first time I see poeple use Mantra of retribution...smile.gif Let us know if it works

Its as rare as people using Inner Santuary
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post Dec 4 2012, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 02:13 PM)
Next time in any coop games, this baby monk is going to ask the barb ...got WarCry -Impunity ka? If not, MoC is not available, la!,  icon_idea.gif
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Yup warcry -impunity is the best co-op buff there is in terms of Defence. 20% Armor + 20% Res..fuuuuuu

MoC-Overraw is the best offensive buff for co-op IMHO.

Also, BoH and Blind is the best buff for monks no doubt. SW snapshot all these buff so the 30%+15% extra to SW makes its IMBA....use it before blizzard nerf it...
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post Dec 4 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 4 2012, 02:29 PM)
Based on my estimation, the existing gears used by my baby monk currently should be able to clear mp7 solo w/o chanting a mantra however I'm trying to push its boundaries playing at 2 levels higher without any gear upgrades by experimenting with the skills set, if possible.
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Hmm just tested MoR....errrrrrr....not very good as I notice that ground effects are not reflected, i.e molten/arcane/descre

Only physical attacks are reflected....me thinks moC is still better for solo.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 4 2012, 03:24 PM)
and only class that can get +300%CHD in single weapon
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Err...Skorn????

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