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post Oct 30 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 30 2012, 05:06 PM)
LoH co efficiency is based on skill you use. Inferno has no effect.

My DPS has been stagnant for a long time... so hard to find gear that can improve DPS without reducing my vit/resist/armor...  sad.gif

guess i am destined to farm at low MP...
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Cant say this bro... I use not to change my low dps weapon due to it had 288 vit on it. But I arrange and make myself reach 100k unbuff. But problem is you need gold for those item. However I am also looking for shoulder to upgrade for adding vit~
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 30 2012, 05:10 PM)
go for the 100k challenge....its a grind game...as we all know..so killing efficiency counts here..more kills more drops more legendary.....try to set a target to be efficient enough to go MP10.....just my 2cents..
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post Oct 30 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(SleepEverywhere @ Oct 30 2012, 05:39 PM)
LoH on inferno is not cut by 80% like LS tho...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key...d=0&output=html
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its something like that, but as yuhhaur said it doesnt proc on alot of the skills
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Oh ready? then LoH has much more potential for avg player (avg damage), no wonder the price is much more higher. I dont know about this till now I tot is same with LS~

Fist of Thunder Thunderclap 198 75* / 75* / 75 meaning that using thunderclap only 75%?


Added on October 30, 2012, 5:49 pm
QUOTE(clautee @ Oct 30 2012, 05:32 PM)
Fist is my 3rd choice after dagger n sword
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try shenlong with 11% speed biggrin.gif you will like it..

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post Oct 31 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Oct 31 2012, 11:12 AM)
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selling my pants for 90m only. below market price
anyone wants it let me know, i need to change to another pants with vit coz i just got a new pair of gloves~
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nice pants bro... but I also looking for vit 1... coz my HP is down to hill now tongue.gif
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post Oct 31 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Oct 31 2012, 12:58 PM)
i dropped 145VIT stats after getting my new gloves which has more resist than my previous gloves.

now my hp dropped to 31k but my resist is up
looking to drop some res and bring my hp back to 40k

sacrificing the pants with 63all resist will still put me at 800 on the dot

put it up in AH so i have no pants to do some farming now lol =.=
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same here bro... dropping 288VIT after getting shen long
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/D3JT-6798/hero/1852358

need to slot purple gem into my pant ... sad... now looking vile ward with VIT.

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post Oct 31 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Oct 31 2012, 01:21 PM)
Hi fellow Monks... need advise here. How much AR needed to farm safely in higher MP/uber bosses?.. i have 813 AR now.. will change my 2 rings with IAS + LoH...but that kind of ring with resist so expensive and rares..consider to drop resist for LoH..

Here my build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sabenar...76/hero/9123034

Now searching/ farm for better weapon with Ls.. and i prefer using shield + attack speed build. please advise before i spending my gold for new rings. Thanks all.
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nice hero you got there, you might try improve ur weapon with LS/LoH so you can can tank the uber boss.
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post Oct 31 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 31 2012, 01:33 PM)
@ M2K2LAND,

Amazing 220k DPS monk u have there.

@ sangtupperware

Wow, nice EHP. And nice site u have there for calculating.
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Dont trust the website... is max buffed... my DPS only got 101k whistling.gif

This is my real damage~
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post Oct 31 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 31 2012, 01:44 PM)
Inna got better dex roll + CC + AR/VIT. But yeah witching is the best DPS belt out there.


Added on October 31, 2012, 1:45 pm

cant see ur damage
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scroll to the right bro~

QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 31 2012, 01:48 PM)
between im happy i havent sold my old belt n glove yet...i havent try this setup in group play...therefore if i have a hard time, i just change back to my 83K DPS unbuffed set-up...well i say a hard time cuz...im lacking in LOH n LS department..so high eHP is very very important to me...

last time with a 700k++ eHP...everything is simple....short story..

this time around i donno...just begging to myself plssss..let the char still can tank in MP8 above when fighting uber...
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I agreed, with witching definitively drop eHP, my previous belt got AR, Arcane, 200dex, Vit + Amour. But however witching boost AS and Damage very much and I choose it.
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 31 2012, 02:53 PM)
oh mai... i love att speed so much because i thought it would benefit in tanking with LoH.
but the dps number makes me sad..

M2K2Land's dps is too far to catch..
and because i was trying to maintain at least 30k life and my AR...
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Muahaha.... I can do it you can do it too paranoid bro...

Yesterday just bought a Vile Ward with Vit (+89) remain Dex(-5) and Arcane (-10). Now my Hp is 37K. Not too bad.

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post Nov 1 2012, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 09:31 AM)
You bought VW too? I bought a 19x dex + 1xx str + AR + Phy one
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Yup, you can check my profile smile.gif
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/D3JT-6798/hero/1852358

191DEX + 89VIT + 75AR + 45Arcane. This way to improve my Vit/HP without sacrificed too much thing. Now got 37K liao. The next thing I going to improve is my Inna Pants to VIT then should able reach 40k.


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post Nov 1 2012, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 09:38 AM)
So you gonna drop the str roll on the inna?
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Yeah, it will drop some of my armor as well. Base on http://d3up.com the armor will drop -87 to exchange VIT. Do you think worth? and Inna with VIT is freaking expensive sleep.gif"
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 09:45 AM)
no comments. Because as far as tanker monk with high life recovery like me, I don't really need that extra 4k hp. MP10 Ghom can't kill me and I am not gonna farm MP10 elites anyway. VIT won't help your dps. only effective hp. If we got one-shotted you think that extra 4k helps?

Personal challenge? go ahead.
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If you mean not to farm at Mp10, then is okies for you.

For me Mp10 bosses or elite, they can kill me in 1 shot if you only have 30k HP. I tested with 42k life and I can survive in Butcher Act 1 and kill him. Coz base on my Resistance and Armor, He hit me 1 hit about 30k-40k HP with fire and bla bla bla so HP is very much important if you going to hunt in Mp10.
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 09:53 AM)
Challenge accepted: see my 6x% dodge monk can survive butcher MP10 or not flex.gif
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Yes you can try and its fun, dont get hit else you going very painful tongue.gif

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post Nov 1 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 1 2012, 10:20 AM)
speaking of the current topics between u 2....

last night played mp7 coop with lau pan, moba,  kuhiko and zhong + black (second round portal). im using my current 100K DPS MOC-Overawe set-up...the finding were

1) i cant lazy tank anymore...meaning i cant barge in sit in the middle..i have to be very careful with arcane and descretor cuz with low  allress with average 730++ unbuffed even after buff by barb becomes 1000 allress....will definitely eat me very fast..not like last time...with barb buff...i can get around 1.2K allress...

2) reflects dmg is very very pain....i really need to kite when coming into these type of elite...

3) my life bar fluctuation (up n down) bcuz of being hit is very scary...really scary...not like last time stable usually at full health...

4) dmg wise im so happy..everything can clear very fast..

conclusion..

1) either i change back my past set-up

2) find LOH item in the armor which is i think the best candidate will be a blackthorne duncraid crost (usually with high LOH)

3) become a dual wielder...straight find the ultimate weapon with LOS/LS/CD/Socketed

4) Dont use MOC-Overawe instead use MOH-Time of Need..

3) or lastly change the same glove n the same witching hour with an All Ress attribute....damn! this gonna be very expensive!!..

p/s: even after finish the round..a guys said in the group this team can go MP9 etc....but inside myself i said...i cant be a tanker even in MP8 anymore using the current set-up...and i have a mix feelings about that...
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I did face the problem you face when I switch from Shielding -> Dual. Yes it take times to adopt to the situation and gear change to suit. I will still use MoC to give party benefit, is okies to die 1-2 times as long as kill those elite and uber boss in short time. Definitely Loh/Ls is important for Dual if you wanna tank. Like you say I wearing blackthorne duncraid cross with 600+ LoH.
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 1 2012, 10:59 AM)
I have a monk friend who has the same problem too, he cant use MoC after MP8. Most uber boss will kill him without MoE. After yesterday fight with you I see significant dps boost with ur MoC. damn that is so OP.
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Yeah 1st game (mp7) I using 24% (less 10% damage from enemy) only but 2nd (mp8) and 3rd times (mp8) I using 48% (additional 24%). I spam like nobody business. I use 48% when only with barbarian (war cry).

Nice game by the way but last game abit hard for kulle~ Dont know why all keep dying, I also die once.

QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 11:12 AM)
this is why we had friendly discussion on monk = party king back then a few days ago tongue.gif
24/48% extra damage is so OP now I afraid will get nerf soon unsure.gif
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Ermmm that too bad tongue.gif But only high Armor and Resistance monk use MoC else most AVG monk use MoE or MoH.


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QUOTE(moko82 @ Nov 1 2012, 11:18 AM)
moe hard target vs moh time of need
which one is better
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MoE definely better for the 3 seconds. Additional Dodge and Armor++

MoE = 3 seconds 15% Chance Dodge = You get -100% damage from enemy
MoH = Absorb little tiny damage from enemy.

I was MoH user for very long time but after change to MoE Hard Target... I stick to it...

Now I using MoC due to I got enough armor and resistance.

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post Nov 1 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 1 2012, 05:19 PM)
talking about armor. How much uber monk had for efficiency in MP7-10?
mine now unbuff 5k armor + 650AR. If use STI can add another 1.2k armor to it but drop 12% dodge chance.
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Sometimes is not about armor is about LS/LoH you have. Of coz armor and resistance is to slow down the HP drop.

I am 5.9k unbuff armor and 780 all resistance but i feel not enough. When I buff to 7k and 900 AR with warcry, I feel cool...

So I think ultimate armor should be 7k and 900 AR. Cool~!!!
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post Nov 2 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 2 2012, 12:02 PM)
Well, you can't have the best of both world (even with masterkad) as the item roll that much of stats.
stacked AR/CC/CD/IAS/Dex/Vit and you left that much of slots for other stats. If roll Str/Armor/one resist again, 6 stats per item is not really enough. And you also need to roll socket/life%/movement spd/pickup radius/etc...

That is why I had low dps. Well, I have chosen this way anyway.


Added on November 2, 2012, 12:07 pm
Try it, 1.5k LoH+2.xLS with 600AR mp7/8 should be no problem for sure to your 120k dps monk. Don't know about mp9/10 thou.

Talking about MP10, ytd tried and get one-shotted by white mob sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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Bro you need high HP (40k+), armor and resistance... you havent take the mp10 butcher challenge yet...
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post Nov 2 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 2 2012, 03:17 PM)
tongue.gif  tongue.gif

i held back on buying inna chest with only fire resist hearing that the OwE nerf is coming.
the price difference is 40mill and 300mill
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Nice comment... but is true~
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post Nov 3 2012, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Nov 3 2012, 02:39 AM)
wow how many 100k dps unbuff monks do we have here?
macam meni meni pipu....

i dont feel special no more.
go roll a WD bye
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Lol How many pipu?
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post Nov 5 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 5 2012, 04:10 PM)
To get IAS50% also damn freaking expensive.


Added on November 5, 2012, 4:11 pmto get IAS50% + CC40% +CD400% +LoH +LS = blown masterkad
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Lol... I havent reach CC40... just 35% + Default 5% and No LS = Waiting to become blown masterkad

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