100M above also got..as long it has high Vit/Life% and 2 res rolls...

Lol..if you look at the tag..paranoid is gal.... Bro hug??

Exactly...I had 2 pretty good (1.2k DPS) EF drops..one with dex + LS..sold it cause of the fear. Sure the DPS boost was great...but in the end...meelee is meant to be in the face and not chasing them around..especially when molten/electricfied is concern.
WW Barbs are different..they will herd the mobs in one big group and just spin to win... hence the fear is not a big concern as they just barberina round and round until most of the mobs die and then pick up the leftovers..

the irony..monks with hair...

Ohh..you mean the eyebrow??? Why would you pull your eyebrow?..or eye lashes? lol..

There is another trick to reduce the fear..get a Cold SoJ.. then you slow them so they run slow slow..

But cannot use FoT..damn jilaka the lightning damage overides the +cold Damage

Bro..no one is saying you cant MP10...your barb is more than sufficient to do MP10. The thing is we are talking about the fear in EF. Some say the fear is good...can make mobs run so can open space to control. But its my opinion that the fear is bad...cause no matter how you still have to kill the MOB..they dont kamikaze (except maniacs)..so like it or not you still have to bash the fella to death. So why would you want to chase the fella while if I got a choice I rather let him chase me..

That is why EF is not everyone cup of tea ...just accept that. Otherwise everyone will be using EF and nothing else..

It stacks..you still get the 6% added to the DPS just that the cold effect will not proc if using FoT as its lightning base. If you use DR..the can slow the mobs down hence the fear effect is minimised cause the fella is slowed and feared at the same time

I do agree with you on this. Sure..to some English might not be their best medium of comunication...so no offence.

Also, being able to MP10 is not the be all end all...heck anyone can MP10 if they want to..just load up life sustain and tank. Question is whether if it is efficent or not

I dont know where i read it..battlemnet I guess but I cant find the link..essentially .+elemental damage is only applied to physical damage. Hence like 2890 above said, non-black will still get the +elemental damage to its physical portion (the small font 300-900 eg) while it doesnt add to the +eg poison 300-450. So for a weapon like the manticore, the +elemental damage only boost partially the overall damage.

And also on the average damage..i.e rings/amulets.

Rite...actually you can test this by getting an Inna belt and equiping a similiar black damage weapon and a elemental damage weapon (2 hander preferably). See the diiference of DPS betwen both

Indeed...I dont have a spreadsheet to show or raw data but I can speak from my experiance. I had a 1028 black damage mace and recently had a 1038 Axe dropped.No main stats on both except Vit/LS/Socket. So I played around ( I have a WKL and Inna Belt equipped). The difference in DPS is not much noticeable..but I got a higer DPS incerease wiht my black damage Mace eventhough its 10DPS lesser than the axe.

In game, the diiference between both were even more noticeable. The black damage mace was clearly hitting harder compared with the Axe. Nuff said..sold the axe:). Got a crappy deal due to the AH problem when it auction expired during AH was down... 18M for a 954 LoH, 2.3% LS OS 1038 Axe....damn you blizzard

Holy cow..1280 loh plus 2.9 LS not enough ka? 600Ar abit low..but I sitting at 36k life and 90k DPS. I have no problems killing reflect mobs..its only minions which carries RD afflix. There seems to be some difference between RD Elites and RD minions...as RD minions seems to refelct way more damage compared with RD Elites. When I see RD minions + molten+ waller..its usally revive 3-5 times. Its just plain crazy...other than that, no issues against most Elites..

Seriously..Mempo with CC is way overated....3% CC for 170M? Seriously....?? A good rolled Andy (dex +Vit) with socket cost probably 20% of that and gives 4.5% CC..but only works for a poison monk..

for 170M I rather pay for a GG ring or amulet to get the extra 3% CC..

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Added on November 23, 2012, 2:51 pmHey bro..tadaima..just got back from Japan?

I know what you are getting at..but it could be me with crap positioning but so far RD minions hurts a lot especially after the last hotfix. Prior to that no issues with RD minions. If you run into one pack of RD minions, you can test by attacking the minions and alternate the Yellow leader. I find that the yellow leader reflects way less damage compare with minions...my take is that minions reflect the same amount as the leaders..but when you SW minions..usually you are hitting 2-3 minions at one go hence..2-3 times RD back to you....so far I never gain life when I meet RD minions...even with 1280LoH , 2.9LS and 500 Regen..which based on my DPS and using FoT, I should regain like 4-5k per hit



This post has been edited by gladfly: Nov 23 2012, 02:51 PM

SoJ is good for high MP as the 25% extra damage to Elites makes life so mcuh easier to kill megahealth E.

Yup...4 set inna is too taxing. Hence, many prefer 2 sets Inna + 2 Nats. Nats boots gives AR and the ring gives ASI +CC as a set.

Finally breached 100k DPS unbuff..but at a cost..550 AR left..

Yup..also if you use a skorn.....and switch back to 2 1 h after casting.

I think if the skorn has LS..the LS will continue as as long as SW is up..imagine BoH+Blind and SW up from a skorn...everything just melts..

Its a bug/exploit that Blizzard is monitoring..

Actuali the belt is very gooding if you have a black damage weapon.

+8% holy.
1% CC
Dex + Vit ..more than enough..+ High Amor.

Poor man WH. I swapped a WH (95Dex, 67 Vit, 160 Intel, 8% ASI and 46% CD) and I got extra 4k DPS only. That goes to show how good is the Inna belt for me..

Yes..its a good WH..2x roll on the Intel:). Of course in the long term WH will outshine the Inna as 46% CD +8% ASI will go a long way when upgrading weapon. Just emnphasizing the point that Inna Favour aint that bad...cheap and good. People tend to dismiss it cause low vit and low AR..but pairing it with a black damage weapon..its actually as good as a low budget WH.

Apart from Quaza's reply I just add this to make it clearer.

+6% is a buff damage. It will +6% on top of your physical damage aspect of the weapon ( the small print damage range at your weapon stats).

The +36% damage also scales with your physical damage only and doesnt apply to +XXX-XXX lightnign damage portion.

Black damage weapons refers to only physical damage weapons, i.e +min + Max weapons afflixes. They scale best with + %elemental damage stats.

In terms of DPS they are the same if both gives eg 1000 DPS.

Its only when you have +elemental damage bonus, the black damage weapons will scale better. i.e the +x% damage will be applied across the whole damage range.

That is why...monks will pair the Won Khim Lau with a black damage weapon ...like Butcher sickle, Echo Fury, Fist of Azu, Sever....etc etc