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ALeUNe
post Oct 25 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Oct 25 2012, 01:29 PM)
i just spent some gold on the highest end vile ward
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 25 2012, 01:48 PM)
Mp10 Ghom itself already 1100Mil Hp. I take 7mins to kill him.
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That's very fast. It took me 15min to kill it. doh.gif

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post Oct 29 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Oct 29 2012, 10:25 AM)
shifu sekalian, my new update: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HenryLo...52/hero/4553853

but still tofu in MP1 Inferno... i am sadding... sad.gif
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Wait, you mean MP1 or MP10?

If it's MP1, with your stats, you can't be toufu.
Just impossibru!!!

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post Oct 29 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Oct 29 2012, 10:41 AM)
MP1 wor...

seriously... or maybe i not really know how to run...

tot monk standstill tank... so try MP1...

kena fireground, arcane, the freeze... die... sad.gif
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If you want to stand in fire/arcane/poison/cold, you need higher LOH + LS.
And replace one of your skills with 7ss.

You have quite low AR.
Focus on one elemental resistance.
Gear up with AR + elemental resistance (i.e. arcane resistance).

Do not use combination strike since you don't use 2 primary skills.
As you use MoE, try use Guardian's Path.
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post Oct 29 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 29 2012, 10:49 AM)
oh ya i died alot i change all my gear to fix my AR. then only concentrate IAS+DEX

my helm, ammy, bracer n rings still very noob.
arcane as long as i dont stand on the pivot point, can tahan..
i also tipu wan.. when arcane come close i spam deadly reach skill (keen eye rune) so not that pain..

7ss is a must have for me also.. can use to escape if locked by mobs, and when u cast 7ss, u're invisible to damage.
i rotate 7ss and serenity when im in a pinch.
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If you play co-op, you can use MoH/Time of Need + Guiding light combo. It's very good in both offensive (16% additional damage) and defensive (AR bonus).

As you use 2 primary skills, combination strike could be your best passive skill.
You must be busy spamming your deadly reach. tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 29 2012, 10:57 AM)
guys/girls,
how much do u think i need to invest (in gold) to upgrade my monk?
to decent state, not godly state..


Added on October 29, 2012, 10:59 am
yeap i took that advice of urs, i changed my passive to combination strike.. not sure if that is the cause i died on SB ytd or it's with the lag issue.
desperately need to upgrade my monk
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We have many categories of gears now.

Top tier gears (MP8 and above) that can cost you hundred millions to billions D3 gold.

Second tier gears (MP5-MP7), they are VERY cheap now. I got a pair of pants for my WD at 600K+ gold (won it through bidding).
I upgraded many gears for all my chars last week.
I disposed many of my old gears at AH, they were sold for 20K-188K D3 gold. doh.gif
Those gears were good enough for me to play MP7.
So, you just need to shop at AH. Happy shopping!!
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 29 2012, 11:12 AM)
my monk lacks dps and a bit more defence to be able to go mp8-mp9 comfortably. that is somewhere i want my monk to achieve.

probably spending like up to 300-400mill is understandable.
by godly i mean i dont hope to upgrade a piece of gear which cost 300mill each.
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If you have a plan to spend 300-400m gold, you gonna have a very powerful monk.

Just keep reasonable CC & CD (i.e. 30%/300%). And stack up your IAS.
Keep adequate LOH/LS. As usual, use Ghom as your benchmark (i.e. try MP10 Ghom).
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post Oct 29 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 29 2012, 11:24 AM)
noted, should i aim for Inna's set?
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Why not? These are the top end gears. Make sure you get your DPS without jeopardising your AR.
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Oct 29 2012, 11:56 AM)
so i see main problem is AR and the life steal
i've tried to stack as much IAS but the dps doesn't really go beyond 40k unbuffed.
im guessing next upgrade is CC%
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To have real damage, it is important to have CC & CD.

Since you're going to revamp your gears, free CC from your helm.
Get CC from amulet/rings/glovers/bracer.
Use Mempo of Twilight as your helm. This is an awesome helm with excellent DEX + VIT + AR + IAS + socket.
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 29 2012, 12:16 PM)
Well to be honest if you want to tank...take a shield with 2x resisit + armor + Vit in your inventory. I have a really nice shield for ooo...shhhheeeeet crazy afflixes. 20% block chance, 74 AR +26 Poison res, 54 Str, 85 Dex, 176 Vit, 315 Armor + 7% CC. Absolutely glorious when I want to tank..smile.gif. Only down side of shield is that you lose 15% ASI but if as long you are still 2 hits per sec with some decent LoH (LoH would be preferable since your dps takes a big dip if swiiching over to shields) ust spam MOC while standing there. block chance not so great but...the reason you getting the shiled is to buff the armor/res..not for the block chance (its a bonus for me)

I agree with quaza that transendence would be better when shielding as you will spam MoC/boH/Blind to push your dps..or MoE..to really make you tough as a diamond..
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Monk can do away the shield because monk can have 7K armor + 1.1K AR without the shield.
So, shield is not needed.

If you use shield, you have one lesser LOH/LS gear, which is essential in tanking.
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 29 2012, 12:22 PM)
also a char with above stats but at least 900 LOH 2.5 LS....and with a 100+DPS + a SHIELD (>30% block) also can do MP7 above very well in tanking...im talking about my char actually..

yes if u look into my profile ull see is a 83K++DPS unbuffed..but do remember im a  MOC - Overawe type...after blazing wrath i got a 95K DPS buffed + 24% MOC-overawe passive (already break the 100K dps)...not adding additional 40% DPS on spamming mantra... LS works wonders on high DPS...

my point is....u can go shield (but pls..use a high block % one) thus can lower the amount of LOH + LS abit...with high DPS set-up..

im the tanker of my group...we can do mp7 efficiently..

p/s: still waiting for my goods to sell to buy Witching Hour....aiming to breach the 90K++ DPS mark..with a shield..
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Let's not forget you are a paragon LVL100 player.
Meaning you are average 40-70 more levels than many of the players.
So, you have few hundred DEX/VIT/STR points more than average players too.
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 29 2012, 12:29 PM)
7k armor? Buffed or not?If not thats a lot of armor meaning almost all gears have +armor afflix in return meaning $$$ with 1.1k AR can be done..been there but the dps takes such a big hit..you get pretty bored trying to kill white mobs at MP5-6.

I can only tank siege/SK with a shield in MP8. Ghom is a joke as long as you have Loh/LS.
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7K armor is achievable, unbuff.
I have 6474 armor now, unbuff. And my gears are cheap gears. Upgrading few gears would give me a further boost in armor (i.e. Vile Ward with STR affix).

Tanking uber boss/SB in MP8 doesn't need a shield.
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post Oct 29 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 29 2012, 12:38 PM)
however you need high LoH/LS, no? what we're all saying is that, with a shield, you do not need high LoH/LS.
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Monk can do away the shield because monk can have 7K armor + 1.1K AR without the shield.
So, shield is not needed.

If you use shield, you have one lesser LOH/LS gear, which is essential in tanking.

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post Oct 29 2012, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Oct 29 2012, 12:55 PM)
i'll never sell my belt for the witching hour belt
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That belt should give you at least 10K DPS boost.
Does it come with AR?
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post Oct 30 2012, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 30 2012, 12:30 AM)
Official 100k club member smile.gif But HP abit low~ 32k
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Awesome DPS, IAS and LOH.
Very good AR, armor and HP too (32K is good enough).
A very balance build. nod.gif

Do not worry about your VIT.
You get more and more VIT as your paragon lvl progresses.
It is good enough to keep at current level.
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Nov 6 2012, 09:21 AM)
atk speed also produce baby tornadoes fast le. lol..  have 2.4 atk speed now.
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If i have such high atk speed, i'll probably use Skorn. nod.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 6 2012, 10:36 AM)
actually i think monk should play a 2 hander n fist only...judging from the char design in the first place...the monk background in our bnet profile also i holding a stick..

interested in playing a 2 hander..but yeah...my attack speed is just 1.85...and quite low on armor....so i let my dream aside first...

still collecting money to change my current ice climber to a +armor ice climber...i saw on AH there is 200 +armor affixes on these shoes selling..since this is the most cheapest upgrade...

also still looking if there is any glove that have DEX, AR-60, AIS-8%, CC-9%,CD-48%..currently none.. doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Trifecta gloves are very expensive.
With almost perfect AIS/CC/CD, it's very rare too.


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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 6 2012, 10:44 AM)
even with high att speed, i tried using skorn, the dmg boost is unimaginable.
but because my gears only have LoH and no LS, sometimes it's quite painful in high MP.

also the main thing is since im so used to the speed, once i used skorn, even considered fast also no feel the syokness already .. ahahaha
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You'd need at least 5.5% LS on skorn.

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post Nov 8 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 8 2012, 10:01 AM)
4k hp vs 60resist bt dps remains unchanged.

Choose hp then I gt 41k hp bt resist is 640
Choose resist then I gt 35k hp bt resist 700

Which 1 is better? Opinion pls
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What's your LOH/LS?
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post Nov 8 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 8 2012, 10:05 AM)
3.0 LS and 500++ LOH. dps arnd 118k unbuff with scoundrel 3cr.
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I'd go for HP.
With additional 4K HP, you have better chance to survive. Just kite (if necessary).

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post Nov 8 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 8 2012, 10:15 AM)
Thx Aleune, I will test it again see if 640 resist wun get owned so bad. Both setups still nid minima kite whenever encounter with elite mobs with molten and arcane.

Btw, just share with u guys. During encounter with frozen elite, press ur mantra at the time the frozen bomb explodes, u will nt gt frozen. Personally I tested few times and u jt nid to master the timing.
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I had 1040AR (unbuff), it was still hurt if there is 3-stack fire.
Just move a bit if you can't stand in fire/arcane/plague.

Interesting on your finding. which mantra? Or it applies to all mantra?

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post Nov 12 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Eywh77 @ Nov 12 2012, 09:53 AM)
Hi fellow monk, wht should i upgrade next?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Eywh77-1272/hero/23257102
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You have arcane, lightning, physical resistance. Focus on one elemental resistance.

AR + X elemental resistance.

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