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cowithgun
post Oct 30 2012, 05:32 PM

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26.5mil?! i skip a heart beat! biggrin.gif
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post Oct 30 2012, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Oct 30 2012, 05:55 PM)
M2K2land, the reason I opt out fist bcoz I wan a decent weapon for multi char.

1h wise I prefer echoing fury for the 0.24 atk spd. Godly when it comes with 11% atk spd
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bro, i m currently with 3% LS and much lower DPS, doing so-so with mp6... i dont have habit of staying in lava, etc...

3% LS with 100k DPS not enough? you mean MP9 or 10 or what? biggrin.gif

i intent to just continue pumping DPS instead of getting more LS or LoH...


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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 30 2012, 05:46 PM)
Oh ready? then LoH has much more potential for avg player (avg damage), no wonder the price is much more higher. I dont know about this till now I tot is same with LS~

Fist of Thunder Thunderclap 198 75* / 75* / 75 meaning that using thunderclap only 75%?
ya, say your LoH is 1000, you only get 750 life back per hit. but it's for ALL targets biggrin.gif ie each target in front of you give you 750 back. if you hit 5 targets, you get 5x750 per hit.

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post Oct 30 2012, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Oct 30 2012, 06:54 PM)
bidding on a slightly better amulet for my monk.. trying for 130K unbuff dps now
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"I never imagined such a creature!"

How is Tempest Rush with your setup?

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post Oct 31 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Oct 31 2012, 10:11 AM)
suddenly after the bidding end...i was shocked...wafakkk??!!..I bought it at 86M!?...and that fist doesnt even have CD!!...
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doh.gif 86M now can get you a quite decent "The Witching Hour" brows.gif


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post Oct 31 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Oct 30 2012, 10:55 PM)
I used Exalted Soul for 2 reasons. Higher spirit pool to help Tempest Rush channeling spirit cost and to spam 2 bells on elites.

Like I mentioned earlier, I just run MP1 for farming loots and Paragorn levelling. With 100k dps, my exp rate and farming efficiency is so much better.
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bro, with your setup, how long it takes to complete Act3?
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post Oct 31 2012, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(SleepEverywhere @ Oct 31 2012, 04:01 PM)
[attachmentid=3130243]

http://d3up.com/b/80565?resync=true

i think the site is broken... look here, so much different with my lvling gear? o_O
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wow! 130k DPS and 5.4 LS! Can stand-wack Ghom MP10?
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(SleepEverywhere @ Oct 31 2012, 08:22 PM)
with real ring its 140k+, i need 35% exp for lvling, and yes i can tank mp10 ghom poison, i only did mp10+ uber quest anyways, gotten 20+ hell fire rings now and none of them have CC sleep.gif
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good to know!!! look like 5k armor and 600-ish resist is all you need if you have high dmg and LS... that is valuable info for me.. i m planning to push my monk towards that!
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post Nov 1 2012, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 1 2012, 03:23 AM)
oh wow belial fight was actually fun ROFL!

my ehp can only take 2 hits from anything he throws at me, needless to say the ground explosion phase its a 1 hit death.

initially after 3-4 tries i resorted to shield, that is steady and all, however he enraged lol and the ground explosion still 1 shots me (40k dmg while i got 33k with shield)

so just f*** it, play better with my DW and lol downed him after a few more tries. dropped trash though
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Yup! I actually so many times in MP5 (before 1.05a), I was so happy I finally killed him I SS


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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 1 2012, 09:34 AM)
Yup, you can check my profile smile.gif
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/D3JT-6798/hero/1852358

191DEX + 89VIT + 75AR + 45Arcane. This way to improve my Vit/HP without sacrificed too much thing. Now got 37K liao. The next thing I going to improve is my Inna Pants to VIT then should able reach 40k.
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Shenlong's Relentless Assault!!!!

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post Nov 1 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 1 2012, 10:20 AM)
speaking of the current topics between u 2....

blah...blah..blah....

4) dmg wise im so happy..everything can clear very fast..

conclusion..

blah... blah...blah..
Ignorance is a bliss rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 2 2012, 10:27 AM)
Tested with LS 3% n Loh 5xx dual wield on 100k+ dps unbuff. Nt bad as I can stand on desecrator, poison and arcane but nt anything that stacked 2 and above.

Next to upgrade my main hand from no LS/LOH to a min 2.5 LS main hand.
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I pressume that is in MP10? Nice... I am working towards that. I already have 4xx LoH and 3% LS. Only my DPS is low. biggrin.gif I am not willing to stack Poison and reduce any resist/armor/vit, more importantly, I am not willing a lot of gold to upgrade. tongue.gif


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post Nov 2 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(tzeyong1981 @ Nov 2 2012, 04:50 PM)
Blizzard just plan to fix OWE not nerf, coz they knew 90% of monk had invest the gear to benefit with OWE, so for the moment is still safe to go with OWE smile.gif

Below is what the developer said:
The strongest monk defensive skill is One With Everything. We've mentioned it before and it bears repeating - this is something we would like to fix someday, but we're going to take our time. Changes to One With Everything heavily impact existing monk gear. We still plan on addressing this in the future but will do so in a way that does not invalidate the gear monks have invested in.

Here the source link:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7155884/
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OMG! another 100k DPS Monk!
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post Nov 2 2012, 04:59 PM

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Any monk with Lightning resist wanna trade Ice Climber with me? I want poison...


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post Nov 2 2012, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 2 2012, 05:26 PM)
I rather drop the andariel for an inna or mempo


Added on November 2, 2012, 5:28 pmAndy's extra fire damage is real pain for monk that will walk the Molton and bath the desecrator
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Inna has crit chance, but no IAS.

Mempo has IAS but no crit chance.

Mempo with both is only like a few hundreds millions.... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Andariel has both, BTW, I just found 1 more andariel with socket? Who want? Cheap cheap nia...

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post Nov 3 2012, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 2 2012, 08:16 PM)
Dex? Berapa extra fire damage? if less than 10% I am intrested...

Anyways I got an Andriel no socket with 234 Dex, 47 Vit..16% extra fire damage taken which I wanna let go if yours is better smile.gif
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Your Andriel is much better... mine dont even have Vit... will sell in AH cheap cheap heheeh

On another note, finally I found The Witching Hours! It has all the nice stat EXCEPT DEX! mad.gif Will still use it anyway. laugh.gif

It has Lightning resist too.. same like my Ice Climber... Bliz is forcing me to change to Lightning... shakehead.gif

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post Nov 6 2012, 12:56 PM

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ya, using FoT on right mouse too. easy.

somehow, fireball from Hellfire ring will proc more if you use WoTHF.

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post Nov 6 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 6 2012, 01:03 PM)
im very particular to crowd control in my game..
the reason im forever stucked with cyclone strike-implosion
so i can kill everything directly in front of me.

i tried to switch to FoT and i find myself teleporting too much especially if you kill fast enough, i find myself popping here and there =_="
and not to mention it has knockback effects

and anyone care to explain why FoT will give more dps over Crippling wave.
Primary FoT
Generate: 6 Spirit per attack
Unleash a series of extremely fast punches that deal 110% weapon damage as Lightning. Every third hit deals damage to all enemies in front of you and knocks them back a short distance. Generates Spirit faster than other Spirit-generating skills due to the high attack speed.
Rune (Thunderclap)
Teleport to the target and release an electric shockwave with every punch that hits all enemies within 6 yards of your primary target for 35% weapon damage as Lightning.
Primary CW
Generate: 7 Spirit per attack
Unleash a series of large sweeping attacks that cause 110% weapon damage to all enemies in front of you. Every third hit damages all enemies around you and dazes them, slowing their movement speed by 30% and attack speed by 20% for 3 seconds.
Rune (Breaking Wave)
Enemies hit by Crippling Wave take 10% additional damage from all attacks for 3 seconds.
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FoT is way faster than Crippling wave. Almost double if you measure the speed needed to complete all 3 hits.
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post Nov 6 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(SleepEverywhere @ Nov 6 2012, 01:54 PM)
I read somewhere that FoT has an invisible 25% attack speed comparing to the rest of other spirit generators, which is why everyone uses it, i have tried WoTHF-FoF and it actually attacks slower than FoT-TC...

Btw just join the 150 club [attachmentid=3141174], going for 180 now....lots of works to do...
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150k DPS with 5.4 LS! sweat.gif Your armor is reduced further! I am moving towards high DPS and LS setup!!! Feel good?
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post Nov 6 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 6 2012, 02:41 PM)
Assume 3%LS.
The thing I like about LS is that, you actually get more Life when your damage increased with any skill:

I like to spam MoC 48%; gain 48% more life!
I like to Blind + 30% damage; gain 30% more life
I like to 7SS; full life!

Sweeping wind also give me more life, the lightning is meh, but when the tornadoes run over mobs, I can see life going up!

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 6 2012, 03:37 PM)
no offence but quite skeptical on how he handle battle situation...monk using FOT surely have to confront enemies head on...maybe he use kiting alot?

im saying this cuz from my observation..from looking at dual wielder playing along...they all have LOH+LS(5%) and 100K dps also...n still can get into trouble in sucking back life when mp8 - mp9 ...when sitting with hard elites such as descretor, plague, arcane, RD etc...i mean their healthbar is fluctuating very unstably (same as mine)...we have to move around n kite abit......

this guy only have 5 LS n no LOH?...thats kinda intrigues me...

my point is..i really think upper then mp7...u really need both...LOH n LS....either way..we really need to play with him to know how well 5%LS only without LOH is... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yes! Thanks for the info. I read all your post too about having difficulties using MoC after MP8, etc. That surprise me! Coz you have great armor and resist.

So, I am quite interested in how others are doing too.


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QUOTE(Slythape @ Nov 6 2012, 03:53 PM)
Most problems arise for me in mp8 and above is molten combo with stuff like reflect damage cause I'm using my echoing fury and I just fear them away thus making it annoyingly hard to hit, usually if I do get my stuff up, not really a problem, its an issue if you party with lower geared people if you're doing mp8.

Other than that, having 2.8% lifesteal is pretty ok, and farming mp8 is pretty pointless anyway, faster to farm in mp1 or 2

http://d3up.com/b/93141

Here's my stats, probably looking to get a decent vile ward for more defensive stats, should be better
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OMG! 150k DPS! Stack all Lightning! Good to know that is doing good and seem lower resist and armor does not matter anymore! thumbup.gif

Stacking 1 resist seem like a very economical way to hit higher DPS. Can get great Inna Radiance with decent Vit and just Poison resist less than 1 mil biggrin.gif Inna's Temperance with just Poison resist also way cheaper... I am so tempted to buy them all!!!

BUT... i m so scare Bliz nerf OWE in next patch... according to Blue post, they will work on Monk next...

More over, farming is not an issue for me since I typically farm in MP5 or lower...

To spend or not to spend?!!!! End up... I keep my gold. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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