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d3dragonslayer
post Nov 19 2012, 03:11 PM

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is physical resistance an elemental resistance? or it's the normal damage hit by mobs
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post Nov 19 2012, 03:13 PM

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hah this past few weeks yet again was about tweaking my char...manage to build a decent char for dual wield and palamonk:

Dual wield:

DPS: 125K
IAS: 2.1
CC: 40%
CD: 559%
Vit: 47K
AR: 630 (with OWE)
LOH: 1800
LS: 4.8%
Armor: 5K

Palamonk with OWE:

DPS: 111K
IAS: 1.9
CC: 50%
CD: 398%
Vit: 50K
AR: 700 (OWE)
LOH: 1800
LS: 2.3%
Armor: 6K

Palamonk FREE of OWE

DPS: 111K
IAS: 1.9
CC: 50%
CD: 398%
Vit: 40K
AR: 712 (No OWE)
LOH: 1800
LS: 2.3%
Armor: 6K

among all of my set-up..of course my favorite was the FREE of OWE build...after farming for so long..i manage to bought a tal tasha suit with AR on it....yeah..

as for the dual wield..the vit really give a big difference in playing the set-up...

as for tal tasha suit..the IAS affix is really awesome...plus the stylo image when wearing it..u really look like a real monk..with that big neckless...hah

maybe looking for a good main weapon for now...oh mai....the farming..

This post has been edited by sangtupperware: Nov 19 2012, 03:57 PM
TSQuazacolt
post Nov 19 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 19 2012, 03:02 PM)
not really la.. most of my item, i bid them out.
some of them super rare i just BO.


some of my gears are quite cheap considering their market values, thing is have to waste a lot of time waiting/bidding.
just got lucky with loots n sales sometimes..
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same here! cept they are all under 5m or so. with the exception of the gloves sitting at 10mil lol.
for buyouts, it depends if the stat rolling fits my criteria, and/or if i can afford them. typically i cant afford them so i dont bother lol.

like i've said before, my entire monk gear excluding gems (which are ironically more expensive) are between 10-20mil+ NETT, and that is not even counting the gold inflation which makes my gears worth even less as the day go by compared to what it was initially bought for


Added on November 19, 2012, 3:18 pm
QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 19 2012, 03:11 PM)
is physical resistance an elemental resistance? or it's the normal damage hit by mobs
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consider it elemental, mainly dealing with normal damage.
then there is armor to consider (which also reduce every type of dmg, spells/elemental etc).

both work hand in hand hence the ideal ratio of 10 armor to 1 resist (or all resist if you will)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 19 2012, 03:18 PM
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post Nov 19 2012, 03:53 PM

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see all ur replys bout wong kim lau...wkl it is then..gonna get a cheap one 1st...test test.
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post Nov 19 2012, 04:12 PM

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found this amulet while farming key:
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although the roll isn't max but it boost my life, armor & dps nicely thumbup.gif

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gladfly
post Nov 19 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Nov 19 2012, 03:53 PM)
see all ur replys bout wong kim lau...wkl it is then..gonna get a cheap one 1st...test test.
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Easiet way to test it is by going at Azmo at a level that you think comfortable. For me..its MP6, dismiss follower and play solo and time the total duration for u to kill azmo without WKL and with WKL
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post Nov 19 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 19 2012, 04:17 PM)
Easiet way to test it is by going at Azmo at a level that you think comfortable. For me..its MP6, dismiss follower and play solo and time the total duration for u to kill azmo without WKL and with WKL
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Lol amzo is DPS test for everyone huh
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post Nov 19 2012, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 04:22 PM)
Lol amzo is DPS test for everyone huh
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fat enough to whack on without cheezy mechanics needing avoidance
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post Nov 19 2012, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 19 2012, 05:26 PM)
fat enough to whack on without cheezy mechanics needing avoidance
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Absolutely....I was in a public game ..and azmo hasnt even finished his.."Yada..yada.." dead....2 crits drom 2 really Imba DH's cluster bombs...smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2012, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 19 2012, 02:43 PM)


Added on November 19, 2012, 2:46 pm

hmm didnt blizz mentioned except on cold, elemental damages are just for cosmetics? any math links for this "black damage" trend people are talking about?
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Black damage weapons is really good because of stuff like inna's belt which says "adds 7% to holy damage" and those other stuff like zunimassa boots that adds poison damage, it gives extra dps. If you are using weapon that has other elemental damage, the dps wont be added.
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post Nov 19 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Slythape @ Nov 19 2012, 06:32 PM)
Black damage weapons is really good because of stuff like inna's belt which says "adds 7% to holy damage" and those other stuff like zunimassa boots that adds poison damage, it gives extra dps. If you are using weapon that has other elemental damage, the dps wont be added.
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it will be added. Just u won't get the full elemental bonus.
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post Nov 19 2012, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 06:46 PM)
it will be added. Just u won't get the full elemental bonus.
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thats what i remembered and its exactly what is being reflected in my inventory dmg value.

and it isnt "not getting full elemental bonnus" either. i am getting full value of the % from my inna belt, and my WKL.

so anyone got the math and actual/proper test cases for these claims? (at work/lazy for bnet forums atm)
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post Nov 19 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 19 2012, 06:48 PM)
thats what i remembered and its exactly what is being reflected in my inventory dmg value.

and it isnt "not getting full elemental bonnus" either. i am getting full value of the % from my inna belt, and my WKL.

so anyone got the math and actual/proper test cases for these claims? (at work/lazy for bnet forums atm)
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Nah, i'm dead sure u don't get the full elemental bonus. Say a manticore user with poison damage wont enjoy the full 7/8 percent holy bonus from Inna's belt.

Is your weapon non elemental?

p.s: i've an in-depth DH DPS calculator and inna just doesn't go with manticore cuz of the elemental on the manti
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post Nov 19 2012, 07:36 PM

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Just in case if anyone still not aware, there is a bug with Sweeping wind that is not fix yet (tested):

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004448569

You may have notice, your sweeping wind do more damage if you cast "Blind Flash" (30% dmg rune) then follow by Sweeping Wind. I have been using that combination for a long time without really exploiting this. Things just go down faster with that combo.

The thread above "exploit" that to the max by changing gear for example to 2h and cast all buff to increase the DPS to max, then only cast Sweeping wind. After which, you can switch back to your favorite dual wields and the Sweeping Wind damage is still high, even after you refresh it.

I tested this with Azmodone, using 2H, buff, etc just before I cast Sweeping Wind, then switch it back. It is surely faster.
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post Nov 19 2012, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 07:27 PM)
Nah, i'm dead sure u don't get the full elemental bonus. Say a manticore user with poison damage wont enjoy the full 7/8 percent holy bonus from Inna's belt.

Is your weapon non elemental?

p.s: i've an in-depth DH DPS calculator and inna just doesn't go with manticore cuz of the elemental on the manti
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pretty sure you dont get any elemental bonus if your weapon has elemental damage
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:00 PM

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pls give some command on my monk build

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kerriga...6/hero/12498935

I currently in Hell mode ACT 3 with MP10
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Slythape @ Nov 19 2012, 07:41 PM)
pretty sure you dont get any elemental bonus if your weapon has elemental damage
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Elemental dmg weapon = elemental damage + physical dmg weapon

What inns belt does is it adds 7/8 percent of your physical damage to your final DPS.

Since elemental damage weapons have lower physical damage range due to the added on elemental damage, you don't benefit fully from the belt compared to a pure non elemental weapon.

Crystal?


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post Nov 19 2012, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 08:06 PM)
Elemental dmg weapon = elemental damage + physical dmg weapon

What inns belt does is it adds 7/8 percent of your physical damage to your final DPS.

Since elemental damage weapons have lower physical damage range due to the added on elemental damage, you don't benefit fully from the belt compared to a pure non elemental weapon.

Crystal?
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ah I forgot about the damage before they add the elemental damage, thanks for clearing that up
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post Nov 19 2012, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 19 2012, 07:27 PM)
Nah, i'm dead sure u don't get the full elemental bonus. Say a manticore user with poison damage wont enjoy the full 7/8 percent holy bonus from Inna's belt.

Is your weapon non elemental?

p.s: i've an in-depth DH DPS calculator and inna just doesn't go with manticore cuz of the elemental on the manti
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my weapon is fire.


Added on November 19, 2012, 8:31 pm
QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 19 2012, 07:36 PM)
Just in case if anyone still not aware, there is a bug with Sweeping wind that is not fix yet (tested):

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004448569

You may have notice, your sweeping wind do more damage if you cast "Blind Flash" (30% dmg rune) then follow by Sweeping Wind. I have been using that combination for a long time without really exploiting this. Things just go down faster with that combo.

The thread above "exploit" that to the max by changing gear for example to 2h and cast all buff to increase the DPS to max, then only cast Sweeping wind. After which, you can switch back to your favorite dual wields and the Sweeping Wind damage is still high, even after you refresh it.

I tested this with Azmodone, using 2H, buff, etc just before I cast Sweeping Wind, then switch it back. It is surely faster.
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not so much a bug, more of a design flaw which is called "snapshotting" that works on other blizz games such as WoW and even more so on other mmorpgs wink.gif


Added on November 19, 2012, 8:32 pm
QUOTE(Slythape @ Nov 19 2012, 07:41 PM)
pretty sure you dont get any elemental bonus if your weapon has elemental damage
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i definitely receive the damage bonus despite wielding a fire weapon and my WKL being lightning. both WKL and inna adds towards my character sheet dps (holy/lightning dmg % bonus)


Added on November 19, 2012, 8:34 pm
QUOTE(kennethchang @ Nov 19 2012, 08:00 PM)
I currently in Hell mode ACT 3 with MP10
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mp0 goto inferno/lvl60 asap. you're just wasting time.

also "comment"

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 19 2012, 08:34 PM
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post Nov 20 2012, 04:08 AM

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anyone doin runs now ? im bored playing alone

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