you can refer to the link => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33UDzGZTHPI&feature=g-all-u

taken from us.battle.net discussion. the person explain it clearly for it.

step 1) goto page 1 of this thread
step 2) read.

Actually to add on to the LS vs LoH, how much dps must you deal in order for LS to be a viable stat in your weapon?

100k dps?

ok boss

guys does loh on both shenlongs stacks ?

YES!

Yes ..it stacks.Loh stacks you can see fro the stats details.

To answer the Q above as when LS makes more sense..well it depends on your crits. The more you crit at bigger dps, the more LS you get back..so it depends on how frequent can you crit. If you low crits..high dex..LS maynot be suitable as you dishing out say average 50-60k per hit...which translate to 300-400 life back only.

Anyways, I need PC on an 1 hand Axe:-

Stats 1028.7 DPS, +954 (max) LoH, 2.3% Lifesteal and OS. How much should it go for? AH prices are inconsistent ranging from 25M right up to 250M..

About your axe, do it come with DEX or STR?
I'm interested if it has STR.

So is it safe to say that LOH sucks if it is in the 300-400 region?

Here's my problem. I have two rings that i'm currently looking into beside NAT reflection.

Unity with LOH on it and Litany with the AR on it. Both rings have 160 ish DEX, 4.5 CC, 8/9 IAS. Unity has the average damage but litany doesn't. Unity has 4 percent bonus against elites and litany has 7percent dmg reduction from elites.

So here is my problem, the Unity gives me 7.8k DPS boost but the litany gives me 1.5k DPS boost. However, the litany gives me more AR (60-65 region) la and with it have around 470 ish with perfectionist. (i'm a DH).

BUT..

i just can't convince myself to pay 100mil ++ and hating the LOH roll on the unity. and i also can't convince myself to pay for the 1.5k DPS boost from litany.

I'm asking here in the MOnk threads because no DH here seems to be using LOH.

Hope you monks can help me decide.

Thanks.

EDITED: How does LOH works on inferno? 300 means 300? Or does it work like LS?

This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 17 2012, 04:04 AM

Aleune..no main stats at all...just pure Loh +LS + Socket...if it had vit...= profit!!!!!!!!!

step 1) goto page 1 of this thread
step 2) read.

Hey 2890...nice to see you here..

Well..to be honest..it depends what your LoH is for..as a complement to gloom or just as a side extra. To be effective as a life sustain factor LoH needs to be in big numbers...1.5k-2k. loH at Rings max at i think 450 which will never be enough. Look at it this way, the LoH is a complement to your life regen...treat it as that.I take the unity over the litany (but then you have a wailing ..so u miss the OMG MF/GF bonus)

No 300 is not 300. LoH has proc rates which is determine by the skills runes...certain skill proc more. Eg Fist of Thunder+Thunderclap procs 150% of LoH for 2 hits and 75% on 3rd hit.

Are you going to use the ring on your DH?
If yes, you don't need LOH.
DH doesn't need LOH. Just get LS on your bow (i.e. Manticore) and spam Gloom.
DH has very high damage per hit, 500K-800K is quite normal. With Bola & spike trap, you can hit multiple targets and dish out millions of damage (in total) in a second.
I think you get a better answer at DH thread. Forget about LOH, you DH just doesn't need that.

Do you have sufficient AR? If yes, pick the one that gives you the most DPS.

So, for monk, it's a total different ball game.
For my case, LOH is still quite important for me (112K DPS unbuff) in terms of survivability in high MP.
I hope i could drop my LOH soon.

P/S Monk has better life recovery from LOH because he has faster attack speed, generally.
If you use 2 xbow, you don't see the fast life recovery. Unless you use 2 x 1H bow with 900+ LOH each.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Nov 17 2012, 04:27 AM

Hey thanks for the swift response gladfly.

Okay, now that u mention procs. I need to go find how bola shot procs with LOH. The skill says 160percent to main target and 110 to mobs within a 20 yard radius. And the way you put it just made Unity much more interesting. The LOH might be amazing.

Currently, i have ZERO LOH ZERO LS. =D

How is 300 LOH with procs a compliment to gloom? I don't think the LOH is going to make a big difference. The set bonus suck of legacy of wicked dreams suck =(

So now, u suggested the Unity because LOH on Unity > AR on Litany? or cuz of the DPS increase?

Thanks again!!!

Please PM me a snapshot of the axe. Thanks.

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Added on November 17, 2012, 4:32 amShadow power works like LS.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Nov 17 2012, 04:32 AM

The thing is a LS manticore is CRAZILY EXPENSIVE AND LOW ON THE DPS scale (1k region). I know that the LOH just doesn't cut it for a DH.

You said getting more DPS, well the Unity gives me the most DPS boost cuz the litany is a defensive ring. and u just said not to bother with LOH. So this is exactly what i'm confuse with.

I have 400ish AR and hoping to get into the 450 region. Can't get an answer there cuz no one seems to be bothered about LOH and to some extent LS.

I have 2.08 APS so i don't hit that slow. The way we DH recover life is pop Gloom and use Cluster Arrow.

So this all comes back to square one again. LOH is useless for DH so the Unity kinda isn't that attractive but gives more DPS than litany. but litany gives AR. You get me?

Thanks!

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Added on November 17, 2012, 4:33 amyeah i know which is why i'm having a hard time deciding which ring.

This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 17 2012, 04:33 AM

So, you need more DPS or AR?

Haha. if is you which one will you pick. I think you'll say BOTH.

AR is more of defence for survival.
Do you have problem to survive in game?
If you don't encounter any issue, your build is just good enough.
In that case, I'd pick DPS.

If you can't really survive in games, choosing AR could be the right move.

So, you need to know what you need.

Of course, if there is a ring that offers both DPS and AR (that you need), why not?

Well the only ring that offers both is a reflection with AR on it and getting the 130 dex bonus. I'll go have a hard look at my build again.

Thanks for the insight.