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yuhhaur
post Nov 1 2012, 05:19 PM

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talking about armor. How much uber monk had for efficiency in MP7-10?
mine now unbuff 5k armor + 650AR. If use STI can add another 1.2k armor to it but drop 12% dodge chance.
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post Nov 2 2012, 10:46 AM

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Somehow I find that MoH is no longer feasible in higher MP levels. Reason:
1. 310hp regen per sec - constant. Imagine 310 of a 31k hp monk is only 1% and we got hit easily above that figure making the regen part useless.
2. Absorb 930 damage when activate - independent of how many mob attack you. 930 is only 3%. reason same as 1.
3. MOH TIN - 20% AR buff. ok still not too bad provided that you got high AR. low AR? does not buff much
4. MOH BOI - 186 life on hit. might helps in crowd provided that you can sustain damages with better armor+AR
5. MOH HB - 10% VIT on average 1k VIT monk is equivalent to 3500hp.
6. MOH CB - 3 spirit regen? to spam what skill? you gain more spirit on average (since mobs lasted longer) than the skill you can spam the spirit.
7. MOH Sustenance - 620 life? same reason as 1.

So I go either MoC or MoE


Added on November 2, 2012, 10:47 am
QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 2 2012, 10:27 AM)
Tested with LS 3% n Loh 5xx dual wield on 100k+ dps unbuff. Nt bad as I can stand on desecrator, poison and arcane but nt anything that stacked 2 and above.

Next to upgrade my main hand from no LS/LOH to a min 2.5 LS main hand.
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Try 5%LS+1500LoH at least, you'll love it .

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post Nov 2 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 2 2012, 10:53 AM)
how much LoH is feasible to tank comfortably in MP8 and above?
im thinking of switching my gem on my mainhand to emerald from amethyst.

in MP7 i dont have problem tanking (with MoE) but the HP of the ubers is damn sick by the time SB's life bar is down to like 20% he starts to enrage. (coop games)
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I notice that you do not have any other form of LoH/LS beside the 75.7 LPSS & 528 regen. Since you got high att spd, why don't you try spam kau kau MoC 24/48 , and you can gain back life while having faster kill.
And, I don't suggest that you drop the amethyst, consider that you only had that much of regen.

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post Nov 2 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 2 2012, 10:53 AM)
how much LoH is feasible to tank comfortably in MP8 and above?
im thinking of switching my gem on my mainhand to emerald from amethyst.

in MP7 i dont have problem tanking (with MoE) but the HP of the ubers is damn sick by the time SB's life bar is down to like 20% he starts to enrage. (coop games)
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certainly your DPS coop mate is not doing good enough. Everytime I coop uber, I will sure mention to my mate that "I AM NOT A DPSer, DON"T EXPECT ME TO DEAL HIGH DAMAGES"
(throw the ball back to dpser)
unless you got 100k dps, keep yourself as tanker on coop.


Added on November 2, 2012, 11:08 am
QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 2 2012, 11:06 AM)
i dont get you on the no relativity scaling with MoH with guiding light passive?
since i dont have problem in defence, might as well get 16% hike of dps permanently. because i would never have problem spamming MoH in every 15seconds. the whole party gets the 16% dps increase.
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why spam 16% moH when you can spam 24/48% MOC?

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post Nov 2 2012, 11:10 AM

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Using Echoring Fury in tanking magda is damm fun. Keep on cornering him/her/it while the rest kau tim SK. (only sidestep arcane centre)


Added on November 2, 2012, 11:11 am
QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 2 2012, 11:10 AM)
well the sweet spots i guess for  a dual wield that have been mention often here was at least 2000 LOH 5 LS?...

between...

tested my char with 1500 LOH 2.3 LS with a shield....and im right back on track as a tanker...yesss!!!... i can quite lazy tank MP8 with MOC-Overawe now..in coop..

in dilemma....

there is a bidding going on a ring with 300++ LOH, AR, CD, CC...either i go bid for it...or waiting for a glove with AR AIS  CC CD....if i go for the LOH ring...i will be stuck forever with 2 passive OWE and STI....but benefit from LOH and will make me become even more tankier...and if i dual wield in the future..the need to find LOH item decrease hence i can buy cheap weapon to boost my DPS..

instead if go for the AR glove...i can play around my passive again.... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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the dpser tanker is spoken.

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post Nov 2 2012, 11:12 AM

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@Baam, I suggest you try drop OwE and play awhile with it.
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 2 2012, 11:13 AM)
Yuhhaur, agreed that 5LS & 1500loh wil b fantastic bt dun tin I can afford such weapons while maintaining my dps.

On uber boss fight u guys discussed, I think simply the uber boss hit is too painful that u may loss 75% hp by 1hit and the LS/LOH is not fast enuf to recover ur hp before the second hit. Armor loss in 1.0.5 for monk is more significant than other class. This made vile ward a mandatory eq as it has min 600armor.
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That is why when I know the STI nerf coming in 1.0.5, I started to get those gear with high armor+str


Added on November 2, 2012, 11:20 amVile Ward with Str stats can goes up to 800armor!

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post Nov 2 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 2 2012, 11:20 AM)
ahh i forgot to mention.. my main in MoC, but i switch to MoH to benefit generally when there's a monk on MoC in my party already.
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So it enrage even with a MoC monk in your party? That definitely the dpser's fault lol.
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:28 AM

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normally for tanker like us with 5-60k dps, by the time ZK is gg, SB should have around 70% life in MP7.
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Nov 2 2012, 11:32 AM)
ahaahah 70% if i try to dps like crazy, i cheated on and off.. i waited for my 7ss and serenity to cd, then i switch to skorn with 100%CD gem on. and spam all crazy dps skill until i was nearly dying then jam on serenity and then switch back and wait again ... hahahhaha
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this is no cheat, this is tactics.
I did that with my 1.2k E.Fury with no LS/LoH in replacing 700LoH+2.4%LS sometimes.


Added on November 2, 2012, 11:44 am
QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 2 2012, 11:28 AM)
speaking of armor....wafakkk!!!....my armor with a shield is 6000???...whereas u guys dual wield already reached 6000 like me??...omaii  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

STI nerf + DPS upgrade has taken its toll on me..i used to have 9000 armor b4 1.04 patch and 7000 armor after patch....bummer!!!  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

heck i test my dual wield ...i have 4800++ armor...wafakk!! doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  GG dual wield for me..
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ahaha. if i really go max defense, I would have 8k armor in DW with STI+MoE HT (but only 600AR)

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post Nov 2 2012, 12:02 PM

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Well, you can't have the best of both world (even with masterkad) as the item roll that much of stats.
stacked AR/CC/CD/IAS/Dex/Vit and you left that much of slots for other stats. If roll Str/Armor/one resist again, 6 stats per item is not really enough. And you also need to roll socket/life%/movement spd/pickup radius/etc...

That is why I had low dps. Well, I have chosen this way anyway.


Added on November 2, 2012, 12:07 pm
QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 2 2012, 11:55 AM)
ur saying about droping OWE..nah i just cant bear to do that...but maybe its worth to try it out..all my resist accept fire will be 660...thats for me is way too low....to go mp7 above in coop..
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Try it, 1.5k LoH+2.xLS with 600AR mp7/8 should be no problem for sure to your 120k dps monk. Don't know about mp9/10 thou.

Talking about MP10, ytd tried and get one-shotted by white mob sweat.gif tongue.gif

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post Nov 2 2012, 01:36 PM

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Any shield can give CD? I wonder should I go palamonk on mp9/10? (target a shield with 1.4k armor, 25% block, 10%CC to reach 8k armor 700AR)

EDITED: shield does not give CD. I haz sadding
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Nov 2 2012, 02:17 PM)
Bro you need high HP (40k+), armor and resistance... you havent take the mp10 butcher challenge yet...
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I got la, 18% amethyst gem ready (at first wanna use when I hit PL100 tongue.gif) that will buff my hp beyond 42k.
Tonight will try again with max armor buff (which is 8k armor + 650AR)


Added on November 2, 2012, 2:29 pmIf lagi cannot then I become palamonk

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post Nov 2 2012, 02:49 PM

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keep the glove, not easy to find a trifecta glove.

bracer wise, there are only 2 legendary choice: Strongarm & Lacuni.
Strongarm roll is rather linear due to its +1 props. Pros is the CC+Life% and good Armor
Lacuni roll is challenging as it has +3 props. the base att spd + MS is good to have.

Demon set is not worth mentioning.

rare bracer is rather cheap. I got mine for 800k only.
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post Nov 2 2012, 02:53 PM

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Sometimes I find that if we wear too many legendaries/set, it will somehow hinder the creativity of gearing.
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post Nov 2 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 2 2012, 02:50 PM)
By the popularity, usually the gear will be like
Pants- inna temp +1props
Shoulder- vile ward +2 props
Boots- nata blood footprint +1 props
Ring- nata deflection +3 props
Belt- the witching hour +3 props
Suit- inna vast+1 props or blackthorns +2 props
Helm- andariel +1 props or inna +2 props or mempo +1 props
Amulet - blackthorn (if u use the suit then u may want to combo for bonus 100 vit) +2 props
Rest- rare

Did I miss out anything?
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post Nov 2 2012, 03:13 PM

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Monk's ultimate aim: Be a ALL RESIST monk and drop OwE!

AR Inna pants cost 100mil, AR inna stone cost 40mil wacko.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 2 2012, 03:18 PM)
AR Monk = priceless = Mastercard smile.gif unless a dual socket 1200 DPS manticore drops... tongue.gif @you goat!! still green with envy wei...smile.gif
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trifecta nat reflection also can do that whistling.gif @you Thales!
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QUOTE(clautee @ Nov 2 2012, 05:05 PM)
Thinking to swap my fire gear to poison so I can benifitted from my andariel helm poison resist. But it would b a major revamp and end of day, need alot money to do that.

Shouldn't choose fire resist from day 1. Haha
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I rather drop the andariel for an inna or mempo


Added on November 2, 2012, 5:28 pmAndy's extra fire damage is real pain for monk that will walk the Molton and bath the desecrator

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post Nov 3 2012, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Coconut @ Nov 2 2012, 10:51 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Max-6499/hero/15869522

hi guys, any recommendation for my monk? Finally got some spare gold after selling witching hour belt, dunno it worth so much.
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Seriously your gear need overhaul. You need to push your Dex to at least 1.8k & DPs to at lest 40k, armor dual wield 5k with sti, 6k if use shield. AR is OK just make sure to maintain at lest 500 when you upgrade your gear.

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