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cowithgun
post Dec 1 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Nov 30 2012, 11:08 PM)
deleted....my post maybe unnecessary..forget it ..
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luckily i managed to see your post before u delete it. but i agree with u. need 40k HP in MP10. nod.gif no matter how much LS+LoH you have!
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post Dec 1 2012, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 1 2012, 08:06 AM)
So, how much eHP to strife for to play in mp5 & mp10?
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MP5 is easy fun, it's now my favorite farming MP. I can speed run MP5 now with just 300k EHP + 3% LS. For MP10, I believe require 400k-500k EHP.


Added on December 1, 2012, 8:55 am
QUOTE(anechoic @ Dec 1 2012, 08:38 AM)
here it is.. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/craps-6613/

thanks for sifus help in advance.. i will try if can upgrade or not..haha  biggrin.gif
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Nice! I have done some checking, you can increase your DPS by 30k if you willing to reduce 181k EHP. Meaning your new DSP = 74.4k, EHP = 258.3k

- Inna Temperance = 2.1mil (+7,615.04 DPS, -85,832.29 EHP)
- Inna Favor = 1.5mil (+6,450.88 DPS, -62,923.67 EHP - set bonus 130 dex added here)
- Pain Horror = 1mil (+8,584.49 DPS, -21,898.66 EHP)
- Tal Rashah = 1mil (+3,769.44 DPS, -9,548.41 EHP)
- Andareil's Visage = 100k (+2,199.07 DPS, -16,093.36 EHP - recommend for last upgrade or dont upgrade at all)

Total cost = 5.7 mil

A little over 5mil because you need Inna Temperance, which price is still kind of steady and that is the buyout option. If you willing to bid for those item, the cost could be way lower.

Best upgrade for you is a 1.1k socket weapon now. You can keep your main hand and survive MP2 and below like god-like.

WARNING: 258.3k EHP means you probably can no longer farm in MP4 and above. Dont sell your other gears, keep both set and mix and match to play in other MP.

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Yada yada yada.. I am not responsible for peanuts.
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post Dec 1 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(anechoic @ Dec 1 2012, 10:28 AM)
can't find that weapon pain horror... what's the recommended stat for that weapon aside from sockets? dex, ls?


Added on December 1, 2012, 10:28 ami think i haven't buy in AH since patch 1.05...haha
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Chose socket, and set max buyout... take a pick smile.gif

But that is just for pricing reference. If you really want to buy it, look for bid. You may get it way cheaper.


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post Dec 1 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(samuraislash @ Dec 1 2012, 03:13 PM)
Since sifu is here i would like to have some advice on my build to survive and kill at MP10. Well i have surcoat and glove to add the AR (total 300+ with owe). Which it will reduce my dps around 40k. Current build only to farm MP0 on doodle run. Try with WKL+ dagger for 5% LS (dps drop another 60k). But still MP 10 elites b****ing me too good.. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SAMURAI...594/hero/828979
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To be able to survive in MP10, you need at least:

hp : 40k
armor : 5.5k
resist: 550
life on hit : 888
life steal : 2.7%

recommended stat:

hp : 45k
armor : 6k
resist: 600
life on hit : 999
life steal : 2.9%

* Jedi Monk Academy: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004037253

Read it with Epic Soundtrack playing in background! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpyaRbIsTGg

"Once upon a time, In a Blizzard far far away. In the cosmic era of 2012.

There is civil unrest in the Monk community, and we are divided and scattered,
the over-geared monk's greed is unbound, and the young apprentices, are lost and shattered, unknowing of the approach and philosophy of the Spiritual Warrior."


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post Dec 3 2012, 04:29 AM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Dec 2 2012, 04:55 PM)
heres another music mostly from "2 steps from hell" that will make u feel like in real D3/ancient world.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif ...it never fails me everytimes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3P2iaWma-Y

u will cry if u died in the game...seriously... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif ...so patriotic/encouraging/heart touching/sad line of war songs...lol
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EPIC! Now I play with this soundtrack while playing D3!
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post Dec 3 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 3 2012, 11:48 AM)
Hi,
Need some advice to improve dps without dropping survivability stats. I'm quite lost atm to get gears.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/GymKhan...99/hero/4371030
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happy to see a monk with no OWE! you guys make us proud.

only Mempo with 6 crit chance worth considering. i found a few mempo previously, all sold, and still using my cheap Inna Radiance. crti chance gives you more cyclones which is signification contribution to your DPS that is not shown in your inventory DPS. it's so important that i always try to find max crit chance in all my gears. but mempo should not be the first you need to worry about.

upgrade your glove and bracer first, both have really low crit chance.

not sure if you are moving to the right directions on high IAS+LoH...

but personally, i prefer moving towards high Crit Chance+LS.

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post Dec 3 2012, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 3 2012, 02:52 PM)
I would love to try the build as follows;-

Active Skill
Fist of Thunder -Thunderclap
Crippling Wave -Concussion
Serenity -Ascension
Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
Breath of Heaven -Blazing Wrath (using Blinding Flash -FitL now-)
Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skill
Combination Strike
Beacon of Ytar
Seize the Initiative

Please comment!

Note:
Relevant stats are 480 ar, 5.4K armor, 45K hp, 1.45 ias, 5.8 ls 2h (barb) skorn and 125k ttl dps (unbuff). Battlenet profile is not updated with the current gears and weapon yet.
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Which MP you wanna farm? high DPS... 480 ar... low ias... can you farm well in mp8? (no, i can't farm in mp8!)

Consider changing rune from Ascension to something else if you have high LoH/LS which allow you to recover enough HP in 3 seconds.

Consider changing Crippling Wave to Deadly Reach+Foresight if you farm lower MP for more DPS.

Consider dual wield for faster IAS (dont put your awesome fist of fury in inventory, make good use of it!)
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post Dec 3 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 3 2012, 06:07 PM)
on the other hand:
courteously dedicated to new-born imba MOBAjobg monk.
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Always fun to party. We should do this more often. That photo is our only evidence that Moba was a noob monk (p1) KAKAKAKAKAK (although i think his DPS is highest in the party...)

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post Dec 4 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 4 2012, 02:01 PM)
Get a barb...dont need ToN tongue.gif
MoC overawe is a must to clear mp9/10 efficiently. +48% dmg for all party is no joke. even if you have overgeared players, MoC still the best to clear mp9/10 fast. nothing beats +48% dmg
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use MoC even if you have to sacrifice a lot of your DPS. say, u lost 30k DPS, but the 48% of your party will be like 100k DPS gain. that is assuming everyone else has 100k DPS.

100k x 3 x 48% = 144k DPS gain.
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post Dec 6 2012, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Dec 6 2012, 01:33 PM)
high offence with low life + no LS/LoH keep you dying at higher MP.. =p
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hey fe3doe, was checking on your profile. nice dex! 3130 dex!

wanna ask you, your dodge 51.3%, is that inclusive of "Guardian's Path"?
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post Dec 7 2012, 06:47 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Dec 6 2012, 11:50 PM)
Hye.. Guardian's path not included i guess, if i'm not mistaken with guardian's path it will be somewhere around 56-57%
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Thanks for the reply. notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 7 2012, 04:31 AM)
100k EHP?
i think you should aim for at least 500k EHP
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400k-500k is probably good enough i think.

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post Dec 7 2012, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 7 2012, 01:35 PM)
Next we go MP10 brows.gif
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I ll have to change to defense gear for MP 10 if want to use MOC.

I still remember we I got 1-shot by those bull so many times!

Fun.
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post Dec 10 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 10 2012, 01:50 PM)
Basically or in a nutshell, if your char can exceed 58.3k hp then %life is worth it otherwise don't bother.
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Basically or in a nutshell, if your char can exceed 58.3k hp then %life is worth it otherwise don't bother both life% and vit is not worth, don't bother, upgrade something else. laugh.gif

Beggar monk rule; whichever come cheaper!

100 vit ~ 10% life @ 35k HP (~1000 vit)

So, if you have less than 1000 vit, 100vit is better than 10% life and vice versa but yuhhaur's Vile Ward is a good buy.

I bought a new toy too; new SoJ. My Seightbreaker MP10 killing time improved by 15 seconds!!! muahahahah! shocking.gif


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Finally!!! I got a few WKL in the past, never before get any of the ShenLong set! laugh.gif

I still have not get any Nat Ring yet... blush.gif


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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Dec 10 2012, 07:23 PM)
can share? i want see the roll of it.. i got this 2-3 times.. all bad rolls.. btw i already got complete Nat set.. got boot yesterday but roll less 200 dex
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will id after "mandi bunga"... i know roll is fixed in drop... but still.. i only id after whole inventory filled with legs...

but i will post after i id it later biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2012, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 10 2012, 07:49 PM)
Got 2 wkl myself recently..but both sucky roll..
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My fist collection.

Recently got Crystal Fist and The Fist of Az'Turrasq too... keeping for sentimental value. wub.gif

ps: Shenlong's Relentless Assault id'ed. Can't expect it to replace my current fist. tongue.gif

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post Dec 11 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(NeoXeroX @ Dec 10 2012, 10:24 PM)
did an uber run MP10 with 3 of frens just now, i would say the skill Wave of light - Blinding light(rune) is awesome.

Bell Build

mainly I was doing supportive to the team with MoC + blind + stun, the rest of the team mates are just hitting them blindly. Stun + Stun + Stun + Blind. Fellow monks please have it a try and share your stunning experience here rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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dis is very interesting! i thought Bliz implement Crowd-Control control in 1.05 so mobs become more and more resist to CC? Stun 3 seconds, the next stun is gonna be less effective and so forth. So, it is still very viable?

Me iz so sadz last night die countless times against MP8 uber skeleton king "slow walk" bug. No animation, he just walk, and I diez...

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7004036844

Nevertheless, I up my eHP for another 20k (and only 800 dps) for 2.5mil... I was so tempted to buy the other gear that will boost my dps by 1.9k, but only 5k eHP... in the end, i m glad i made the right choice. i m done farming in low MP. tongue.gif Mobs die too fast without giving me any sense of satisfaction of punching them. laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 11 2012, 03:14 PM)
SO, u guys prefer:
1. DW fist that deals fast but lower average damages (300-800 damage), or
2. 2H skorn that deals super high damage but slow (900-1600), or
3. DW spear/mace/axe/etc that sits in between (500-1000)

That day cow and I was mentioned about this ingame, while I jelly on his shenlong fists, it couldn't convince me enough to get a pair to test water.

I know there are some Skorn users please give me your thought also...
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Tried the 2H (skorn) life, didn't care for it... too slow, not enough action...

At the Jedi Academy, they recommend all three options. Put in your inventory, use when you need it, especially for 7SS and Bell skill. Also good to 'buff' sweeping wind.

Personally, I always chose DW (although I was with sheild for a long time... back then when 1H was super expensive). Love to see continuous hits and fast actions. Fast first attack, with 2H, your first attacks is delayed. Fast to reach 3rd hit which proc with a number of things. With 2H, your LoH also not very effective. For high MP, I recommend using both LoH + LS.

To get the best from both options, I always aim for high damage Black weapon. My main hand is a fist with 549-1092 damage with no other attribute (cheaper).

Anyway, if you just want to test the ShenLong Relentless Assault, you can test mine.


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QUOTE(Klawo @ Dec 11 2012, 05:34 PM)
hmm.. yeah too bad ah close d lol. but puzzle whether it really does millions of damage

oh only kiling blow. watching youtube video of it.. lol
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it will really deal with millions on damage but that only happen on last hit. so, to use as LS, your main source prolly just from white mobs. you will run into troubles with elites which give you almost nil LS before it dies...



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post Dec 11 2012, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 11 2012, 05:37 PM)
google it or see youtube.
I tested  it. Yes, guaranteed millions of damage.

Note#1: You need high enough DPS where you can kill mobs in 1-2 hits. Well, most of us can do that in MP0-5.
Note#2: Killing mobs in 1-2 hits? That tells you you need to do low MP.
Note#3: Cow reminded me. You need LS to have life recovery. So, you go dual-wield.


Added on December 11, 2012, 5:40 pmUse Sever where you can one-blow mobs.
It is much better than Skorn in low MP, at least for me.
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i know why u wanna sell that sick Sever... u never really farm low MP anyway. laugh.gif

i always see u in MP10 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 11 2012, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 11 2012, 06:28 PM)
I think there should be rare Black fist weapon (>1k dps) with cd, os and either LoH or ls available, that's the best but costly.

Just several days ago, a 98x dps specimen with the above mentioned specs was listed in gAH @ Bid 350M and no buyout.
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Beggar monk rule:

1. Buy 1 Black Fist with 1k with socket and CD. This is damage dealer. Got mine in less than 10mil! Muahahah
2. Buy another off-hand with 1k DPS with socket + 3 LS. Got this in 4 mil. Muahaha!

Total less than 14 mil. Can solo Seightbreaker MP10 yo...

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