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TSkeithcky
post Oct 8 2012, 04:33 PM, updated 14y ago

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Any parents here given their babies this vaccine? I tot of getting these vaccine for my 8mths old daughter. Doctor said only need 3jabs now, per jab cost rm280. Vaccine are by pfizer.
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Completed too
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post Oct 9 2012, 09:23 AM

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my daughter's 3rd jabs due this november

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post Oct 9 2012, 05:56 PM

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done, 3 jabs. It's really exp though, but prevention is always better!
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post Oct 10 2012, 11:58 PM

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Done 2 jabs, my pediatrician signed me up for a program. Buy 3 free 1 ! Last dose is free. One dose is 230, so at the end I will be paying 690 for 4 jabs.
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post Oct 11 2012, 03:22 PM

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Hi,

I plan to give mt baby after 1 yo. Then only need 1 jab. It is not about the money but not sure if so many vacs at such tender age good or not. Furthermore, kesian that he kena poke so many times. This is my personal opinion though.
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post Oct 11 2012, 06:11 PM

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i didn't give this jab to my kids. Cause I don't like where this is headed.

The company know 90% parents sure will buy this for their kids. Cause prevention is better than cure. This kind of thing is what's happening in US. So medical company is making billions selling medicine that consumers are not even sure they really need or not. They just want to sell and this product is one very good example of how easily you can manipulate caring parents.

I know some parents who does not believe in vaccination and hence did not even had their kids vaccinated for anything. And their kids still grow up to be normal. Not to say we don't need vaccination but sometimes we really need to open our eyes and think. So not be scared by everything about kids thrown our way.
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I had an elder cousin got the Meningitis in young age. In his 30+ years life, he has never live a day without diapers, he can never tell people anything, never been able to stand on his own feet. I can't tell whether he likes how he lives now, but neither his parents or him were offered any choice to prevent this from happening.

Many countries have made this compulsory free vaccine. Unfortunately it is still pricey and our government cannot afford to give for free yet. For the poorer family, people tends to have to endure more risks than those better doing.

If you can afford, but just worried being ripped off by the pharma company, you rather save the money than give protection to your kids, you are selfish. You can save the money in the bank and hope one day your kids grow up will also think many old people have diseases or sickness but they not die yet. So my parents need no treatment either.

When it comes to baby, I will never take chance!
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post Oct 16 2012, 06:43 PM

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no offence ... just take the injection rather than sorry ... when u have kids u are well prepare to give all the good things to him/her
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post Oct 16 2012, 11:07 PM

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I agree. If we can afford we must give it to them. Take this as an insurance. We will never know what will happen. Dont let regrets haunt us. smile.gif smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 11 2012, 06:11 PM)
i didn't give this jab to my kids. Cause I don't like where this is headed.

The company know 90% parents sure will buy this for their kids. Cause prevention is better than cure. This kind of thing is what's happening in US. So medical company is making billions selling medicine that consumers are not even sure they really need or not. They just want to sell and this product is one very good example of how easily you can manipulate caring parents.

I know some parents who does not believe in vaccination and hence did not even had their kids vaccinated for anything. And their kids still grow up to be normal. Not to say we don't need vaccination but sometimes we really need to open our eyes and think. So not be scared by everything about kids thrown our way.
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Without vaccination, many diseases would not be eradicated. Imagine there is smallpox vaccination and your kid doesn't take it - he'd still be ok if he stays in the city and in relatively clean environment and the people around him are vaccinated. But what if he gets into contact with someone with smallpox one day?

Kids grow up normal without vaccination if they don't get exposed to the virus. If they do, it's likely they will get it.
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post Oct 18 2012, 05:01 PM

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i am planning to give tis jab to my gal too...
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:29 PM

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me n hubby r planning to give this jab when our boy is 6 mths.. just to space out the jabs each month starting with the compulsory ones. better be safe than sorry since all these medical bills we can claim from company. =)
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Actually I was kinda coaxed into it. Doctor was busy that day so he talked so fast... he explained so fast about Pheumococcal and Rota virus then before we know it, he asked, OK?

We asked, is this a normal vaccination for baby, he answered yes.

We didn't know it was an option. Well, we would have taken it anyway, but what I didn't like was we weren't told its an option.
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post Oct 25 2012, 01:12 PM

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I heard newborn baby need various type of vaccination nearly every months once. Anyone have the list of vaccination given to baby ?
Is there any all in one jabs so that the little one will not suffer so much?
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post Oct 25 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Oct 18 2012, 02:48 PM)
Without vaccination, many diseases would not be eradicated.  Imagine there is smallpox vaccination and your kid doesn't take it - he'd still be ok if he stays in the city and in relatively clean environment and the people around him are vaccinated.  But what if he gets into contact with someone with smallpox one day?

Kids grow up normal without vaccination if they don't get exposed to the virus.  If they do, it's likely they will get it.
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Yes, I believe in vaccine too. But this is because we were educated from young about them. However it doesn't means human can't live without vaccine. Look at our grandfathers and older generation. They have been living fine without vaccines. And some who even believe vaccines are doing more harm than good. One point to think about it that the modern medicines and vaccines could possibly be the reason that causes other type of diseases. And because of that, more and more medicines become available. People created B medicine to cure A disease but it causes C disease. So you need D medicine to cure C disease now along with needing medicine A. You see where I am going with this? Human body naturally is able to fight diseases. The body can adapt to new type of disease over time. However, due to the help of medicine, you body does not need to work that hard anymore. Therefore, you become dependent on medicine to cure common flu. When people in the older days just need to drink some chicken soup and so on.
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post Oct 25 2012, 02:32 PM

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after bb deliver, doc will give u the list and schedule to follow, both private or gov hosp (gov hosp booklet has more info, which including guide for new parents how to handle bb and bb development growth checklist)

If many vaccine in one jab, scare ur bb immune system too fragile to handle.. cos some vaccine 1 jab weak bb will have fever already... dun worry about bb suffer, mine lo cried like only 2 seconds then it is over... i think they will need to grow up a bit then only will develop fear gua...
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post Oct 25 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 25 2012, 02:27 PM)
Yes, I believe in vaccine too. But this is because we were educated from young about them. However it doesn't means human can't live without vaccine. Look at our grandfathers and older generation. They have been living fine without vaccines. And some who even believe vaccines are doing more harm than good. One point to think about it that the modern medicines and vaccines could possibly be the reason that causes other type of diseases. And because of that, more and more medicines become available. People created B medicine to cure A disease but it causes C disease. So you need D medicine to cure C disease now along with needing medicine A. You see where I am going with this? Human body naturally is able to fight diseases. The body can adapt to new type of disease over time. However, due to the help of medicine, you body does not need to work that hard anymore. Therefore, you become dependent on medicine to cure common flu. When people in the older days just need to drink some chicken soup and so on.
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Some diseases can be fought off, like the common cold. Some cannot easily be fought off, like smallpox. We can fight off diseases naturally but in this age of artificially made diseases and the rate of mutation, we need help in the form of vaccination. If we can fight off diseases naturally, we would have adapted and be immune to HIV already.

For small things like common cold and sore throat, I don't take med either and let myself heal naturally. But for more serious diseases, I need help.
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post Nov 14 2012, 05:08 PM

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taking the second dose this Friday, no side effect, no fever... I think we should take it based on the growing trend of death caused by pneumonia





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post Nov 16 2012, 09:11 PM

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Pneumococcal vaccination was included in vaccination schedule for some countries. The decision was made based on the prevalence of the disease and the mortality rate caused by it. I don't believe a country will allocate so much money if the vaccination is useless. However, happen to understand that, we also need to know that the vaccination itself does not protect the child 100% from the disease as pnemuoniae is a group of bacteria which consists of about 80 types of them. All of them can cause pneumonia in children. In the vaccination, it only covers 23 of them. In Malaysia, we have 2 types of pneumococcal vaccine available. Both cover <20 types. The more pricey once covers more than the other one...(forgot exactly how many but <20 types). It costs about Rm200-250 per jab. Baby less than 6 months need 4 jabs. More than 6 months only 2 jabs needed. I am planning to give my LO the jab at his 7th months old as there are no other vaccinations required at that time.

Other ppl who needed the pneumococcal vaccine are ppl >65 yrs old, ppl who had splenectomy done, ppl with low immune systems...they can repeat the jab every 5 yrs. Normal ppl doesn't need it as their immune system can protect them very well.

Parents should also know that all vaccination has the risk of getting complications. Although it is rare but it does happen.

Hope this pcs of info can help those who are still unsure if the pneumococcal vaccination is needed for their LO. smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2013, 02:50 PM

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Just want to share a promotion for pneumococcal vaccination that my paed at Hospital Sungai Long is offering. So that can help parents save some $$$ smile.gif

Buy 3 free 1 for total of RM 570 or single jab at RM 190. http://hospitalsungailong.com/web/package/...ocal-promo.html

This is one of the cheaper ones I have come across after doing some survey.

QUOTE(keithcky @ Oct 8 2012, 04:33 PM)
Any parents here given their babies this vaccine? I tot of getting these vaccine for my 8mths old daughter. Doctor said only need 3jabs now, per jab cost rm280. Vaccine are by pfizer.
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post Feb 27 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 25 2012, 02:27 PM)
Yes, I believe in vaccine too. But this is because we were educated from young about them. However it doesn't means human can't live without vaccine. Look at our grandfathers and older generation. They have been living fine without vaccines. And some who even believe vaccines are doing more harm than good. One point to think about it that the modern medicines and vaccines could possibly be the reason that causes other type of diseases. And because of that, more and more medicines become available. People created B medicine to cure A disease but it causes C disease. So you need D medicine to cure C disease now along with needing medicine A. You see where I am going with this? Human body naturally is able to fight diseases. The body can adapt to new type of disease over time. However, due to the help of medicine, you body does not need to work that hard anymore. Therefore, you become dependent on medicine to cure common flu. When people in the older days just need to drink some chicken soup and so on.
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Hi abubin,
I'm caught by interest by your statement above on our ancestors who turned out fine without vaccines. Would like to add... The lack of vaccines in the past was also one of the key reasons for higher childhood mortality rate compared to today... there were quite a number of kids during our grandparents' era who did not make it beyond infancy/childhood due to among others diphtheria, small pox. But I agree that human bodies do adapt for diseases over time just like how some bacteria evolve and become resistant to antibiotics. smile.gif

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I agree with sundaybabe's statement below. Small pox has been effectively erradicated due to successful vaccination programmes. So if the vaccinations are compulsory all babies will need to follow the schedule and be brought for vaccination.

As for the optional ones, it really depends on the parent's preference. If the parents can afford it and there is no harm done, I think we should give the best to our children and go for even those optional vaccinations. As they say, "prevention is better than cure".

In fact, the pneumococcoal vaccination is made compulsory in UK, US and Singapore. This means that this vaccination is quite important and should be given to babies, if parents can afford it.

QUOTE(sundaybabe @ Feb 27 2013, 04:57 PM)

Hi abubin,
I'm caught by interest by your statement above on our ancestors who turned out fine without vaccines.  Would like to add... The lack of vaccines in the past was also one of the key reasons for higher childhood mortality rate compared to today... there were quite a number of kids during our grandparents' era who did not make it beyond infancy/childhood due to among others diphtheria, small pox.  But I agree that human bodies do adapt for diseases over time just like how some bacteria evolve and become resistant to antibiotics. smile.gif

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post Feb 28 2013, 04:41 PM

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any side effect after this Jab

i do mean
- fever
- etc
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post Feb 28 2013, 05:08 PM

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Hi guys..
Juz sharing some useful links on vaccination
http://www.cdc.gov/ u can get useful info from here. Official info on disease and vaccination recommendations for kid, adults and travellers. They do have info on safety issues on vaccines and diseases they covered.
take note that some of the recommendations given by CDC US is not part of MOH official recommendations. So there still exists a need to consult with your physicians.

For malaysia vaccination program (those compulsory) are under the jurisdiction of bahagian kawalan penyakit MOH..website u can ggoole..last time i check not so much info la..

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitorin...eduleResult.cfm
Go here to read on who immunization program for malaysia.

have a nice read first , ask questions to your dr/pharmacists and then only decide.


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my baby done already on this jab...
baby and kids is prone to pneumonia. my baby got penumonia when she was like 3-4 months old...after recover doc recommend this jab...
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post Jul 5 2013, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Purplebug @ Oct 10 2012, 11:58 PM)
Done 2 jabs, my pediatrician signed me up for a program. Buy 3 free 1 ! Last dose is free. One dose is 230, so at the end I will be paying 690 for 4 jabs.
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May I know which clinic is offering 3 jabs free 1?
Thank you.
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post Jul 8 2013, 10:59 AM

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To me, its important. It is because everybody theseday are given vaccine thats why the disease is under control....lets say everybody stop giving their newborns vaccine due to the possibilities of etc etc and etc and because of the new awareness of danger that vaccines can bring us.....there is going to be outbreaks of all these diseases all over again loo smile.gif
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post Aug 12 2013, 12:09 AM

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My bb is 4mths old now. Can he take this jabs too?
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my bb got pneumonia when she was around 6 months.... then doc recommend this jab...now she completed dy... its not cheap but i think my baby needs it...
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post Aug 12 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(aarontan78 @ Jul 5 2013, 11:13 AM)
May I know which clinic is offering 3 jabs free 1?
Thank you.
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Unfortunately, this programme has ended in May 2013.
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QUOTE(cherly86 @ Aug 12 2013, 12:09 AM)
My bb is 4mths old now. Can he take this jabs too?
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Babies can start taking this vaccination starting from 2 months old.
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post Aug 12 2013, 03:45 PM

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Pneumococcal vaccination is very important to prevent serious brain infection, lung infection, ear infection and blood stream infection caused pneumococcus bacteria. It can be lethal or permanent brain infection which leads to mental disability. Please take the vaccination if possible. Noted, the fact that it is expensive in Malaysia. But the cost of hospital admission, duration of stay and permanent effects to your loved ones are more damaging to your pocket..
Dr Mervin
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QUOTE(merv76 @ Aug 12 2013, 03:45 PM)
Pneumococcal vaccination is very important to prevent serious brain infection, lung infection, ear infection and blood stream infection caused pneumococcus bacteria. It can be lethal or permanent brain infection which leads to mental disability. Please take the vaccination if possible. Noted, the fact that it is expensive in Malaysia. But the cost of hospital admission, duration of stay and permanent effects to your loved ones are more damaging to your pocket..
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Thanks Dr Mervin! Appreciated your information. smile.gif
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vaccine doesnt guarantee 100% protection,vaccine only helps to greatly reduce the chance your baby catches the disease
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QUOTE(lene002 @ Aug 16 2013, 12:15 PM)
vaccine doesnt guarantee 100% protection,vaccine only helps to greatly reduce the chance your baby catches the disease
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well said..

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post Sep 9 2013, 01:57 PM

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i think M'sia gov provide most job coverage except pneumococcal & another 1. can't remember the name, cause its too expensive to cover for all.
any1 can confirm this?
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post Sep 13 2013, 04:17 PM

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From Wikipedia:

The vaccine is, however, primarily developed for the U.S. and European epidemiological situation, and therefore it has only a limited coverage of serotypes causing serious pneumococcal infections in most developing countries.[15]

Barocchi MA, Censini S, Rappuoli R (2007). "Vaccines in the era of genomics: the pneumococcal challenge"

Due to the geographic distribution of pneumococcal serotypes, additional research is needed to find the most efficacious vaccine for developing-world populations. In a previous study, the most common pneumococcal serotypes or groups from developed countries were found to be, in descending order, 14, 6, 19, 18, 9, 23, 7, 4, 1 and 15. In developing countries the order was 6, 14, 8, 5, 1, 19, 9, 23, 18, 15 and 7.[13]

Sniadack DH, Schwartz B, Lipman H, Bogaerts J, Butler JC, Dagan R, Echaniz-Aviles G, Lloyd-Evans N, Fenoll A (June 1995). "Potential interventions for the prevention of childhood pneumonia: geographic and temporal differences in serotype and serogroup distribution of sterile site pneumococcal isolates from children--implications for vaccine strategies". PediatrMy Webpage Infect Dis J 14 (6): 503–10. doi:10.1097/00006454-199506000-00007. PMID 7667055
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do adults need this vaccine??
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this and rotavirus is optional vaccine

still take though but cant claim from my company

 

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